/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>16788446
can back to watching anime, weeb

>>16788456
>can back
?

>>16788446
lots and lots and lots of tap beer

>>16788469
What's so special about tap beer?
That's like the stuff where you crank the lever and it comes out right? What is that stuff anyway?

Bartending destroys your social life unless you like hanging out with other bartenders and bar flies.

There is a shit-ton of substance abuse. Nearly everyone does coke, is an alcoholic, etc.

If you end up at a really good cocktail bar, it can be really rewarding. It's also super-competitive and you'll be working under close scrutiny and constant competition from the other bartenders. Think of it like working in a really nice kitchen. There is endless shit to learn, new techniques to master, new equipment and recipes and concepts to add to your repertoire. Rotavaps are going to be the next big thing, mark my words.

You'll see some fucked up shit if you're in even a slightly busy bar. Alcohol is a terrible drug that makes people do stupid things. Actually, I'm being generous if I call anyone between the age of 19 and 25 "people". They're raving mongoloids. I think the drinking age should be raised to 26.

People will be demeaning, but it's one of the few jobs where you get to be an asshole right back to them, and then have the bouncer kick them out.

It's a difficult job with a heavy bias towards attractive people with a great smile, so it can be tough to get in.

>>16788503
>If you end up at a really good cocktail bar,
What's an example of a really high end cocktail bar that people aspire to work at?

I looked up bartending videos on youtube because I was curious and found this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ore2GcXFIv4

Beyond the fact that it's really cool, I noticed that his finger looks really weird.
Is this something to do with bartending? Like how certain professions will affect your hands in certain ways, or is this just some random ailment with no relation?

>>16788539
>Is this something to do with bartending? Like how certain professions will affect your hands in certain ways, or is this just some random ailment with no relation?
Sorta, he's a Japanese bartender, which means tons of hold and manipulating ice (common Japanese style thing), which means his hands are both sopping wet and ice cold. It does happen, but that's more on the style than anything.

>>16788526
depends on the city. there are too many to list, really.

Death and Company in New York and Denver and Los Angeles
Aviary in Chicago
Any bar program at a 3 michelin star restaurant in New York (I had a friend who poured drinks at Le Bernardin and Jean Georges Vongerichten for a few years. He made 150k a year easy, but the stress was beyond imagining)

But really, any decent-sized city will have an amazing cocktail bar or two that will teach you a shit ton.

>>16788539
He's got what's called "bar rot". It's a fungal infection of the cuticles that comes from your hands being wet 12 hours a day, 5 days a week. It's fucking gross, honestly, and I'm willing to bet we'll see a trend towards gloves behind the bar over the next decade.

>>16788503
Make me a whiskey sour with egg whites bitch

>be regular movie theater wagie
>post covid reopening no one who worked at the restaurant comes back to work
>overhear GM saying that he needs a bartender
>tell him I'm an alcoholic and that I'll do it
>hop in with 0 experience
>restaurant is failing so I have plenty of free time to practice
>and by that I mean fuck around with shit I'd never buy
>make some actually decent cocktails
Too bad I'd probably never cut it in a real bar and am only good at making shit for a couple people at a time. But I came up with a decent cocktail themed after my anime waifu so I'll take it

I worked at a wine bar in California when I was 22 and I had a great time. It felt good to give customers a special experience, I definitely learned how to be more charming working there.

how do i become a bartender at a chill, never busy, dive bar, bros

>>16788446
>knew a bartender through mutual friends
>let me drink for free if I let him suck my dick
>drank for free for the 2 years I was in that town
Win/win for me. Gay people are weird, man.

>>16788659
No problem, bitch.

2 ounces bourbon, 3/4 ounce lemon juice (squeezed a few hours prior), 3/4 ounce simple, one egg white.

Shake hard with ice for 12 seconds. Separate shakers, double strain contents into the empty shaker. Discard ice, shake again for 45 seconds. Double strain again into a chilled coupe, served up. Add a few small drops of Peychaud's or Angostura bitters atop the egg white foam, garnish with orange zest.

>>16789502
own it

>>16789502
The bartender that already works there has all the best shifts and knows all the regulars. She has just the right amount of cleavage and knows the name of everyone's dog. Short answer: you don't. She's pulling good money off of bar flies and she isn't going to give it up.

>>16789633
>Gay people are weird, man.

Yes, you are.

>>16788473
usually just domestic beer in tap. the tap is the big lever. it's all people typically drink - domestics 'domestic' to America so things like Budweiser, Busch, Yuengling, Coors, Miller, Heineken, Blue Moon - these all come in keg sizes of 1/6, 1/4, and 1/2's. the keg comes in, you connect the shit to the tap and the just serve. A quarter of it all gets wasted on overfilling because most bartenders can't pout a fucking beer and then another quarter of it gets wasted on people who can't drink.

>>16788503
I've read online from a couple of bartenders who had a drinking problem and decided to quit drinking and no one took them seriously. pretty toxic work environment from the sounds of it

>>16788526
drink bunny at a nice golf resort

>>16788446
>>tfw no qt bartender gf
some rude ass bartender i know just lost her bf in a motorcycle crash. he was the bouncer. she's available if you want mt get her number for you.

>>16788446
I used to think bartending was a bit of a "cool" job, with how its portrayed in games and shows and so on. But then when I look into the ones I like - quiet bars with some lone bartender serving drinks to a couple depressed regulars, they're actually shitholes or incredibly low paying, boring work. The busy bars with lots of customers are demanding jobs full of bitchy co-workers and drunk assholes. And then there's a pub like what my friend works in, where the regulars are all fat loud middle aged low brow workers that you pour 3 dozen beers for each - all banter and you're basically expected to socialise with them after hours, playing pool and whatever - that's nice and all, but not at all what I'd want.

Disappointed that the reality of bartending is more like >>16788503 instead of some comfy quiet bar with it's own cool factor like in OP image.

>>16789436
Care to share the cocktail anon? Or is this staying as your secret money maker?

>>16791071
Gonna try to keep the recipe to myself, but it's very floral with a good balance between sweet and tart. Never had anyone dislike it and usually when a couple orders and one is indecisive seeing and trying this will be enough to sell a second. Not the best at taking pictures but fuck it. Rosemary garnish is good flavor wise but I feel a lavender sprig would work better looks wise.

One experiment I did that went right was a midori martini, though I doubt it's all that original and in fact I got the idea from a lavender martini I tried a couple weeks back at another bar. But what I did was:

2 oz gin or vodka (I recommend gin personally, but as with any martini it's up to you)
1/2 oz dry vermouth
3/4 oz midori
1/2 oz lime juice
shake, strain, etc
garnish with a cherry

if you are an introverted autist, its miserable. i worked at a bar for a few years and it was great because there was no 'sit down' area, we just made drinks and the waitresses took them to customers, and we would get a cut of all tips. then we 'upgraded' the bar with a sit down area, sucked major dick. the extra money from direct tips is not worth having to deal with customers, IMO. ive never hated normies so much since high school. and the boomer alcoholic faggots that come in repeatedly and think your their buddy cuz they tipped you 10 bucks arnt any better. i quit a few months after that

tl;dr its a good part time job if you're an extroverted people person but its not nearly as hip and cool as you might think, and it 100% is not career worthy

>>16791128
Looks tasty, I'd try it. Hope it helps you out if you ever get in a bar again. Maybe even start your own if you enjoy it and can get a loan?
I really like midori, so I might give that a go next time I go shopping. Thanks anon.

>>16791165
idk, I'm gonna see how the end of the year goes here, but might look for another part time job at a better place that's more open to letting me sell my own drinks. The management where I work loves what I make and knows it sells but we're corporate owned so we gotta sneak around if we're doing our own food/drink specials.

Like >>16791161 said, this probably won't be my career but the skills are useful for parties and shit and it's good part time. Best part of working at a place that's running on life support from to go food orders is I keep 100% of tips since no one else works front of house. Gets annoying when some fuckass with 0 situational awareness doesn't realize this and tips me like ass after deciding to bring him wife and their pack of shitlets for dinner and they weren't waited on hand and foot while the bar was full. Or when they come in on a slow afternoon and think an empty bar can afford to keep all 30+ taps running constantly and get pissy when the single IPA we don't have is the one they want and bitch to their wife "they don't have anything!" I fucking hate boomers man, at least the ones that obviously never worked at a restaurant. Though there's this boomer cop that comes in every so often that's pretty based. Unironically calls women "broads" and tips me like $20 for a drink or two.

>squatemalans in the kitchen flying high on crystal
>owner comes in to get fucked up where he can't be cut off
>owners gf nearly drives over customers in parking lot once a month
>drunk old women try and grab your dick/sexually harrass you at least once a week
>all the other bartenders are coked up and regurgitating 80s standup

>>16791128
Oh, that's a nice combo. Might be a bit on the sweet side (also kinda leans to sour), but it's extremely well balanced, I think. It's pretty original, for what it's worth!

That's fair. I hope things work out for you, whatever you decide to do. Maybe if you get enough customers trying your own drinks off-menu you'd get some loyal people wanting to try your stuff if you ever moved venue.
I don't think I'd ever be cut out for bar work from the sounds of things, but I'm sure it's fun sometimes too. I've worked in customer service a few times and it always ends up being a net negative experience because of some assholes singlehandedly ruining your week with a shitty comment/attitude/action.

>>16791304
meant for >>16791183

>>16791304
I work in a bougie enough area that people will definitely try craft cocktails and most of the time I suggest any of my off menu ones they take the bite. Gonna get with the managers one of these days and print up some special menus to keep hidden when I'm not working but hand out to customers when they come in.
Realistically this is just paid training for if I ever decide to go to a better bar. Corporate office thinks I should only be paid tipped wages, despite being the only person front of house at a failing restaurant, but my managers change it so I'm paid $10/hr. I tell them as soon as that stops I'm putting in my 2 weeks unless business picks up enough to justify it.

>>16791357
>only be paid in tips
What the fuck? Is that even legal or are they playing it off because of the "paid training" part? Good that the managers are decent people, holy shit. Sounds like it's a good idea to get out of there ASAP anyways then, before someone higher up puts their foot down on your wage.

>>16791376
It's legal there's exemptions made for tipped employees in minimum wage laws

>>16788503
This pretty much.

>>16788446
What it's like? Endless hours of standing around and doing nothing, then breaking your back and getting harassed by drunk women.

Behind the bar you hear everything that's being said in front of the bar where people think they're private and can't hear anyone else talk except for their partner. Every night is filled with miserable stories.

To drink: West-Vleteren

To make: any of the laced coffees, Irish, French, Italian, doesn't matter. Shift's over and it's time for fun with colleagues and customers alike.

>>16788503
+1 on drinking age being raised to 26 - and I'm European.

It was fun, and it was terrible.

The money is good for not needing an education or anything. When you start, if the bar scene is your scene, it feels like you work at a party. But everyone has a time limit before it destroys their view of the world, if not themselves.

It'll be hard work if you're at a busy place. It'll give you a serious respect for anyone in the service industry who keeps a smile on their face. You'll get real tired of drunks. You'll get real tired of blacks trying to get free shit, if you work in a diverse area. You'll get real tired of underage idiots who don't realize how obvious they are. If you're a decent looking guy, you'll get real tired of middle-aged women and gay dudes hitting on you. I don't know how women do it; the creepy dudes are never-ending. Then again, I've seen shitty female bartenders with no skill or personality make bank because they have big tits, so I guess it's a trade off. You'll also have conversations with some of the most interesting people you'll ever meet, if you're talkative.

You'll probably have a weird schedule, leading to a social life surrounded mostly by other bartenders and various other career misfits with a similar schedule. They're all drunks, and half of them are on drugs as well. Even at the upscale places. You'll either become like them, or burn out.

I burnt out after a few years. I barely drink anymore, but I keep it simple when I do. I like a rusty nail, Fireball and Dr. Pepper, or just some Irish whiskey and soda.

Don't get a bartender gf. 99% are total whores who will never be fit for a committed relationship again.

>>16791376
Tipped wages means I get paid way less than minimum wage (barely over $5 in my state, compared to the $10 I'd make otherwise). The "paid training" is what I'm calling the job, they don't consider it that. But I did catch on my paychecks before my managers changed my pay rate they were not only paying me federal tipped wage (which is like $2/hr) they also weren't properly making up the difference to minimum wage. My GM told them immediately that I was about to quit over that and I had a check printed with what they owed me the next day.
But for sure I need a better job, I just have really flexible hours here because they know no one else will work there.

>>16788446
it's certainly not like it's portrayed in that video game, where there's three people tops at any given moment, you have that much time to chat and everyone readily opens up to you, treating you nicely enough
>what's it like
depends where you work, where I live it's hard to only be a bartender, you also have to be what americans call a barista, and it's really a lowly profession, not much higher than being a garbage man - coincidentally, bartenders here are also expected to collect garbage and drink toilets in the bar they work at
the patrons/clients are typically treat you accordingly, for example a middle aged man once raised his voice and called me a fucking idiot and asked what the fuck I was doing/thinking because he thought I had given him some 20ml less wine than he ought to have in exchange for his money
>memorable stories
I was freelancing at a graduation party and I had put together a small-ish menu, 8 drinks + punch, and I encouraged the participants to tell me whatever they liked to get a "custom made" drink, ingredients permitting
a guy with unkempt hair and a more unkempt beard dressed like a hipster approached me and told me all sort of contradicting things about what he liked and wanted in his drink, so I turned around and turned around again, proposing a glass of "rum neat"
he was very positively impressed about my suggestion, drank his rum and spent the rest of the night saying how nice and cool and professional I was
the rest of the stories that come to mind are memorable for me but only because of how bad they were, not very funny at all
>favorite drink
a dry daiquiri made with Flor de Cana 4
also a grasshopper, and I'm sure I'm forgetting something
>to make
sing sling, ramos gin fizz, that sort of thing
>>16788473
that's it, yes, it's supposedly stored in a way that keeps the carbonation and flavor just right
>>16789763
this is the attitude you need to have if you want to cut it, and you have to have fun while being like this

>>16791128
>midori and rosemary
doesn't sound good, are you sure it's a good idea with how "aromatic" the rosemary is?
it tends to go better with lemon, pear, some more juicy and less strong flavors
as you said, lavender would probably work better, so good for you, you look like you know what you're doing

>>16792127
the attached picture is not the midori martini, in case that wasn't obvious from the color

>>16792141
forgot image

>What is it like being a bartender?
Constant work and foot pain, taking a lot of abuse from drunken customers and even more from the scumbag managers and owners you're forced to kowtow to if you want to keep your job, absolutely no social life because you're most likely going to be working until 4 AM on Friday and Saturday every week, zero benefits or job security because in the US there is no food service union, and unattractive drunks constantly hitting on you while you're trying to do your fucking job. Asshole, do I come to your place of employment and incessantly try to get into your pants? I don't think I do.

But you make a SHITLOAD of money. I played Valhalla and the least realistic parts of a game that features catgirls and brains in jars are A) Jill's boss is not pure fucking evil hellspawn sent to torment hardworking innocents, B) Jill makes terrible money, and C) that place isn't packed to the gills after famous pop stars and camwhore streamers were seen going there for a drink.

>>16792206
get better shoes, homie,

>>16792206
If I had to describe bartending in as few words as possible, I'd say,

>It's like a halfway point between being a babysitter and a drug dealer.

Alcohol is a ridiculously dangerous drug that makes people completely retarded, and one of your main jobs as a barkeep is to make sure this NPC turds don't end up hurting themselves or killing someone after they leave, and then your bar being found liable for it. At the first place I worked we allowed kids in (it was a bowling alley / arcade / laser tag place that also happened to have a full bar) and I swear to god I must have saved a lot of those little shits from going through car windscreens, because while they were off playing the parents would just sit at the bar sucking down margaritas and irish car bombs with no attempt whatsoever to stay sober enough to get behind the wheel, so naturally I always had to cut them off, and then they'd throw a big hissy fit. Like, jesus christ, guys.

>>16792141
right, my bad

>>16788503
Lemme get a shot of top shelf while i steal your tips prissy fag.

>>16792234
Even better is when the cops will decide to randomly fuck around on busy weekends and send a UC minor when you won't have time to triple check their ID.

>>16792275
>Stealing tips
Most places keep the tip jar as far behind the bar as possible exactly because of shitheads like you.

Also, video lottery machines, FUCK those things. All of the worst customers and biggest outburst incidents I ever had were from piss-drunk gambling addicts who got pissed that they just lost 200 dollars to a video poker machine and decided it was everyone's fault but theirs and started a goddamn fight. You'll also come to hate sports working at any bar, fuck I hate football fans, no matter how loud you scream at the TV, the fucking players won't be able to hear you, THAT'S NOT HOW TELEVISION WORKS.

>>16792275
what is that even supposed to mean?

>>16792296
People who are trying to steal cash out of the tip jar will have the bartender do a bunch of complicated shit that involves not watching the bar like a hawk, and while you're in the back digging out whatever obscure ingredient they asked for, they'll scurry behind the bar like the rats they are and swipe a fistful of dollars of your hard-earned money. I feel we should be well within our rights to break people's fingers when we catch them doing this.

>>16792304
oh. I haven't worked in or seen a bar that keeps the tips in a tip jar in years. It either goes straight into the cash drawer or a server book.

90% of my tips are credit card anyway.

>>16792107
>drink toilets in the bar they work at
Just think of it as second hand beer and close your eyes...

>>16788446
I was a bartender at a really oldschool german hofbrau that had 20+ taps of local craft and a full alcohol bar. the clientele was mostly 70+ years old so I got pretty used to making old fashioned, cosmos, tom collins, etc.

a man came in once (with his caretaker) and asked us to blend his meal, I believe a turkey + mashed potato dinner, in our margarita blender so that he could drink it because he couldn't chew.

I also had a woman with (I hope) dementia who came in during the middle of a weekday shift and wouldn't stop talking about how she murdered her last two husbands.

thursday nights were "banjo nights" where a local group of 20-30 banjo players would come in and play the same 10 songs for their geriatric crowd.

overall it was a parttime gig for me and pretty fun/casual. I learned how to make a bunch of drinks and learn the local beer community. now I work in beer fulltime and haven't been there in 5 or so years? food was bomb though.

thanks for reading my blog

>>16792107
Care to share some more of those stories you mentioned? They're pretty neat to read, if it doesn't bother you to recall them.

>>16788503
I've never been rude to a bartender. Wtf why would people be an asshole to the person serving you drinks.

>>16792487
Because everyone's the main character of their story.

They can't even conceive of a bar as a real place with a history, it's just another stop in their phantasmagoric hallucination of nameless, faceless people who pop into existence for thirty seconds and then cease to exist once they're no longer needed.

>>16792487
You're a good person anon that's why. Unfortunately good people are an endangered species

>>16792487
The rudest customers in my experience were always white boomers. They've been handed everything their entire lives and as a result they have a grossly inflated sense of entitlement. "What the fuck's taking you so long to get your royal highness his drinks, beer wench? None of the other customers are as important as me, they should have to wait even though I'm fifth in line!" That's exactly how they think.

>>16792457
>thursday nights were "banjo nights" where a local group of 20-30 banjo players would come in and play the same 10 songs for their geriatric crowd.
This sounds pretty wholesome. I was going to say I assume it was a nicer and more peaceful night to work (ignoring the obvious comparison to the weekend shifts, instead other weekdays) but then I became capable of rational thought and realised a bunch of old drunk guys can probably get quite irate and rowdy. My grandfather was a heavy whiskey drinker and while I loved him, his children have some stories about what an asshole he could be when in a bad mood and drunk.

>>16792525
It was wholesome indeed. Most of the bartenders were annoyed by it but I wasn't around for too long so usually enjoyed it. It got a bit cramped and loud with that many banjos in a medium sized space but it was never too crazy. They celebrated many 90th and 100th bdays there, and the old people loved it. The worst customers were usually grumpy/rude but not loud.

>>16792548
Oh, that's good. I can see workers getting annoyed from hearing the same/similar music over and over. I hate those Xmas songs that get played over and over for 3 weeks straight at the end of the year, I feel like office jobs that allow radios use this as punishment for the electricity used on the radio the rest of the year. At least with a bunch of people playing the banjo live it's a neat change though and it's always nice to help someone enjoy their day/celebrations.

>>16792425
>drink toilets
oh fuck me
I meant clean toilets, I gotta get a grip
>>16792473
sure, why not
I've mostly freelanced over the years, so I barely had any regulars and I saw very different crowds
at a small pool party there was this girl who had that "I'm better than you and I know it" look about her, very sheltered it seemed, and when she arrived at the bar she read the menu, which contained no vodka lemons nor long islands, and with the utmost confidence she said "I only drink gin lemons or long islands"
that was a small party and the organizer wanted to spend as little as possible, so I discussed with her that I wouldn't even buy lemons, just limes and oranges, and I politely explained that I didn't have the ingredients to do either of those drinks
she, without beating an eye, repeated "well, I only drink gin lemons or long islands"
I ended up making her a long island with orange juice instead of the triple sec and some bottled ice tea instead of the lemon, and her comment was something like, "see? it wasn't very difficult, was it?"

>>16792628
another one was when I tried to get a stable position at a bar, I told the owner, who I know was looking for staff, that I had years of experience with making drinks, organizing events and so on, but I barely had any experience as a barista
he insisted it would be fine, that he really only needed someone making drinks during cocktail hour and diner hours, so I went there with dress pants and a nice shirt, I like to believe I treated the clients nicely, addressed them politely and did what was asked of me, which mostly consisted in cleaning, serving tables, making coffee, and cleaning more
at the end of the day I went to the owner, we had a chat and I told him there had to have been a misunderstanding, because I had cleaned most of the time I was there and made I think 3 cocktails in one sunday
the owner promptly replied that he thought I would be more experienced with making coffee and serving tables, and that I was definitely too formal in the way I addressed clients, "like [I was] working in an office"
I got paid €48 per 8h of work, wished him good luck and promptly fucked off
this is how bartenders are treated in mostly all places here, by bar owners and clients alike

another one was when I was doing some promotions for Diageo, this one is funny though
an old man, at least 80y/o was there, and so I offered him to try a drink, but he went
>ah no, I can't, doctor's orders
>it's because I have heart problems
>I also can't eat red meat
>or drive too fast
>or smoke, certainly not
>or stay awake for more than x hours
>or yada yada
at some point I got bored and replied
>allright but can you at least fuck?
he then understood I was there working and went on his way

>>16792643
another one, same place, similar time
a good looking 30-some german woman approached me and I offered her a drink in english, then started highlighting the peculiarities of what I offered, she drank it and a (probably) swiss man, 30-some, well kept and well dressed, approached me too and started making small talk with the girl in german
the woman went on her way, the man kept looking until she disappeared, and after finishing his drink he turned to me, saying, in my language with just a slight accent, the equivalent of "fucking hot she was eh? you mind if we switch places for a couple hours?"
took me quite a lot of strength not to burst out laughing, and I offered him some more expensive alcohol

being a bartender has its moments but it's overall not nearly as romantic as the stories make it seem, I can't recommend it, in fact I actively discourage anybody I know from doing it, at least here
I was never one to smoke regularly, so to manage the stress most mornings I just looked at a picture of an anime girl saying "Wake up wageslave, time to put on that customer service smile and go get this bread", punched a wall, locker, drawer or some such, and went on to make drinks and manage customers, though I doubt I could have made it if I didn't have the very high self esteem I have

>>16792628
>>16792643
>>16792666
Amusing stories, thanks for sharing. I can totally relate to entitled customers and weird attitudes about things you can't control. Sometimes acquiescing in the "wrong" way - like when you made a not-quite-Long Island iced tea - is just all it takes. Especially if they don't really know what they're talking about but just want you to serve them. I doubt she knew the ingredients of a long island or had drank enough to recognise it was very different (orange juice? the whole look of the drink would be massively different, nevermind the taste, it's fucking opaque now lol). Same with people just wasting your time, but sometimes they just want someone to talk to. Not what most people get paid for unfortunately.
>punched a wall, locker, drawer or some such
Sounds you were really stressed. Or maybe had a bit of an issue. Hope your situation is better than it was then. Any job that interacts with customers is horrible at times, really easy to get annoyed or just feel like shit because of some asshole treating you like you're scum when you're just trying to make a living. We give them what they ask for, to the best of what the business allows, yet some are never happy.

>>16792666
>most mornings I just looked at a picture of an anime girl saying "Wake up wageslave, time to put on that customer service smile and go get this bread"
Yeah, that sounds about right.

>>16789436
>>overhear GM saying that he needs a bartender
>>tell him I'm an alcoholic and that I'll do it
>>hop in with 0 experience
Kek

>>16792666
va-11 hall-a? that game any good? apparently it's more cyberpunk than 2077

>>16791420
>99% are total whores who will never be fit for a committed relationship again.
How to pick up cute bartender lady?

>>16792866
It's comfy as fuck. The game literally tells you to grab a nice drink and sit back while you play it. At the start of each day you get to choose the songs played from its jukebox (ingame music, not your own) and it just makes for this great experience of sitting back, mixing drinks and talking to customers. You get your own options on answers and when you mix drinks its done manually - you can purposely get people more drunk for different results and other stuff. If you want something where you can sit back and play with just a mouse while having a nice comfy boozey night, I 100% recommend it. Depression curing tier.

>>16792876
sell coke, be a tattoo artist, be her boss.

>>16792876
>>16792925
Or be a little lucky and a decent person and you might just meet someone like you - in a shit job, getting work done because they can do the work involved and fed up with life.
Emphasis on might. This requires actually going out/working/socialising to meet these people who do indeed exist.

>>16788446
Aussie bartender here.
Also did bartending in Japan.

in countries with tipping you cant get a bartending job unless your resume already has 30 years of bar experience, and even then you'll get relegated to dishwasher or line cook so they can give the job to a big tiddie 18yo blonde girl.

in normal countries, it's just a typical low-paying hospitality job no different to waiting tables or what have you. if your pub is busy with average working or young types then you have to deal with noise, fights and spew.
if it's an upscale hipster joint then business is slower which can fuck your hours.
ideally you want to work in a local country pub but again, good luck waiting 40 years for the old cunt who works there to die of old age so the position opens up.

bartending in Japan was completely different. no mess, no fights, customers extremely polite, customers bring gifts/cakes/snacks for the bartender from time to time. also the drinking culture there you, as the bartender, are expected to match drinking pace with your customers. talking, lending an ear, hooking people up and being the town's gossip is easily 80% of the job of bartending in Japan.
only shit thing was the pay was awful and you had to deal with constant cigarette smoke (they still smoke in bars/restaurants in asia).
was worth it to get fucked up for free every weekend though.
other shit part of bartending in Japan is being hungover as shit every day.

before 'rona i was considering opening my own bar in Japan but glad I didnt.

one day i'd love to own my own little bar attached to the side of a backpacker's hostel in a beach town.
serve beers to chill travelers, share a joint around and hear their stories.

>>16792948
Most bartenders are decent people.

They also just happen to love cocaine, tattoos, or the guy who bosses them around.

>>16792963
Sounds fucking sick. And yeah, you're absolutely right. It's very difficult to get a job bartending in America unless you're well-breasted, unless it's one of those east coast cities with about sixteen million bars like Boston, New York, Philadelphia, etc.

>>16792963
>in countries with tipping
>in normal countries
Made me laugh.

JP bartending sounds super comfy. Any nice stories to share? From both Australia and Japan but the JP stuff comes across like it'd be really nice.

>>16792964
Less than posts imply but drug abuse is totally a thing. I think that and the tattoos come from the socialite or rebel aspect of a lot of people who end up in this job. Like if you go through life enjoying substances with people and doing crazy things, then you find a job where you can do that and get paid, of course you're gonna like it. Most of your job is conversing with other people who are having fun after all.

>>16792666
>most mornings I just looked at a picture of an anime girl saying "Wake up wageslave, time to put on that customer service smile and go get this bread"
My anime waifu is the only thing keeping me going anymore, working a shitty bar is killing my soul and all this coof nonsense has made me miss a year of school just because I'd rather be trying to save money than navigate these extra restrictions that suddenly exist. It's why I made a drink named after her (no, not straight up named after her, I'm not that big of a sped)

>>16793226
>his wife is Mash
You are boring, but highly respectable. I admire that kind of stability and commitment.

>>16793266
Hey man, if I ever wanted to open a bar she'd be there for me, that's all I need. Plus she can make nice cakes.

>>16788446

Any bros here regularly drink at bars? Reading all these stories and the only real enticing part is meeting the few people that have something to tell, but I doubt you'd need to be a bartender to talk to them. Can I just crash at some bar whenever I feel like getting tipsy and strike up a conversation?

>>16793350
That is generally what bars are there for, yes

>>16793350
I mostly drink at breweries these days and I used to be the night manager at one but, yes, you can meet people and strike up conversation. Might depend a bit on the area a bit though; I don’t live in a diversity meme area. But alcohol tends to get the lips moving for most people and you can meet interesting people. The main downside is if you’re in the bar and someone who you don’t recognize knows your name and some things about you—so evidently you chatted before but you don’t remember it. Very odd feeling.

>>16793383
Wasn't sure how bar etiquette worked and if I'd just piss someone off.
>>16793385
Can I get away with ordering pussy drinks so I don't lose myself? Don't like the idea of going retard mode with complete strangers.

>>16792991
no particular stories.
the bar i worked at in japan was a dirty old dive. only 4-5 seats, but on a friday night we'd easily fit in 20-30 people shoulder to shoulder (def a fire hazard but japan doesnt care about shit like that).
on the busiest nights people woul djust drink on the street in front of the bar too and sometimes block traffic.
other bars in the city hated us, especially the fancy English pub around the corner and the fancy wine bar upstairs, mostly cuz we were the only 5/5 star google rated bar in town and easily pulled the most customers.

I miss the regulars. A few of them knew that I would make drinks that none of the other staff knew how to make, so they'd tip me generously (tipping in bar culture in japan means the customers buy the bartender drinks, I get to drink the drink and pocket that money for myself instead of putting it in the till).

95% of the drink orders would be
>draught beer
>vodka redbull or jaeger redbull (we'd premix it instead of doing the jaeger bomb shit, heavily cut down on the amount of dishes that needed doing
>gin tonic
>whisky highball
>the occasional moscow mule

I used to get about 900yen/hour cash in hand for a night's work. Was pretty shit money, especially considering the train cost me about 2000yen every shift.
but i more than made up for it by getting drunk for free every weekend.

Our bar didnt even have a cash register, just a cash box.
Doing math and calculating change for a 7-person drink order is fucking hard when you're smashed.

One of the best parts was watching our bar's token Nyuu-Haafu (ie: tranny, but he was pretty convincing and a top dude) get hit on by drunk dudes.
One time we had a pair of Swedish businessmen in the bar, one was gay and got a crush for tranny-chan. Whole bar was playing cupid for them that night. Heaps of fun.

The worst part was winter from New Years until end of Feb.
Almost no customers. So many shifts sitting there drinking alone.

Is it common for nazis and other gangs to scout out bars to take over?

>>16793420
>Wasn't sure how bar etiquette worked and if I'd just piss someone off.
depends a lot on the bar too.

fancy cocktail bar?
nah it's mostly couples on dates or maybe groups of middle-aged women gossiping.
a family pub that's more 90% restaurant than bar?
nah, again, small clusters of friends or families that want to be left alone as they eat their nachos or chicken parma.

college bar?
bar with D&D/board game nights?
bar with live music that isnt just some cunt on a guitar?
bar with quiz nights and bingo nights?
yeah thats the bar where people drink and make friends with randoms.

also day of the week plays a factor too.
I live in a tourist town now so every bar is normal every night, but in some cities I lived in... Mon~Wed nights in bars would be mainly chefs, sex workers and the REAL alcoholics would be the only ones going out on those nights.
Fri-Sat nights are usually when you wanna go out if you wanna socialise with randoms.

Again, just depends on the bars and bar culture in your area.

>>16793420
I suppose you can. That said, alcohol+sugar=hangovers. No one really cares but it’s better to go during off times if you want conversation.

>>16788446
I fucking hate bartenders. They pretend flrit with you to get good tips. I feel in love with you why the fuck are you being like that just to get $5 dollars? I would pay more if you were my gf. Not speaking from experience

I'm working on landing a decent bartending gig but I only have a couple months of serving experience so it's been a tough search. I think barista or barback work would be nice to fill the gaps but I'm worried about how little I know about cocktails and beer in general.
How much do you learn on the job and what should I know prior to an interview? I know some simple cocktails but my last job we batched them so I got lazy with recipe memorization.

>>16793446
>900yen/hour
>2000yen every shift
How many hours did you work? I'm going off my crappy western averages here so I'm assuming that it's 8 hours, 7200yen, then minus 2000 for transport, which sounds like you earned basically nothing after food and bills and whatever else. I've never been in JP so I don't have any idea how things cost but I've heard it's pretty expensive and it's giving me the idea you had basically nothing to live on/treat yourself with. How was it from your point of view?
>japs encouraging tranny love
I thought that was just some hikikomori shit, their version of super-neets. Kinda sweet that it's not, I'm sure it made for some fun moments.
>sitting there drinking alone
Assuming you're getting paid still, this legit sounds like the best time of year for me - I'd love to just sit there, bring out a phone or tablet or laptop and just basically do the same shit I do outside of work while getting paid for it.. Sorry if you felt bad, anon, I know lots of people prefer a more lively social thing. I'm sure you got some nice comfy nights out of it though.

You said you miss the regulars. Assuming you had the choice, would you return to the job and its environment?
Do you speak fluent jap or do you just kinda get by?

>>16788446
All the chicks have told me that you just get hot on by weird creepy guys.

>>16788446
>I can't think of any other questions
I really like your pic, but I've gotta wonder: In what state can middle school kids tend bar?
She IS super hot, though.

If you can work at a straight bar with no/minimal food, it's a much easier gig
if you can work at a wine bar, even better, as it's usually better clientele, bigger tabs, and better tips
I'm autistic and usually ignore people's names, but if you remember the names of regulars they will tip you better. You might also find yourself getting better at not being autistic, if that's something you're trying to work on.

Women coworkers are largely catty, high-stress, and likely to take it out on you. Men coworkers are largely more friendly and more composed but also more likely on some substance.

It's not a bad gig if you can prevent yourself from getting swept up in all of the degeneracy that comes with all service jobs, lots of junkies.

>>16788473
as minimal oxidation and skunking as a beer can get

>>16793420
>Can I get away with ordering pussy drinks so I don't lose myself?
The only pussy drink is the one you order without confidence. Order whatever the fuck you want and own it. If anybody says anything, it's because THEY are insecure, not you.

>>16792876
>How to pick up cute bartender lady?

First off, don't. They're not good for relationships, being whores 99% of the time. If you just want a hookup, that's easier... but 1/2 of them are serious cunts, despite the nice service personality they have at work. The other 1/2 are crazy, and you know you shouldn't put your dick in crazy. Save yourself the trouble - this industry seriously breaks women.

That being said, if you still won't listen, there are a few ways to hook up with your average qt bartender.

1) Sell whatever drug they're into.

2) Be extremely good looking and fun, or present yourself like you've got serious money to have fun with. If you've got a boat to take them on when they have a day off, you're in. Just make the move at that point.

3) Be around them for long enough without creeping them out. These women are whores, and will eventually fuck all the guys around them that are up to their standards. The easiest way to do this is to work with them and socialize with the staff that hang out together. In the service industry, a significant portion of most bar/restaurant staff has fucked other staff. If you're their manager, you'll have an easier time. If you're enough of a regular and socialize well that you get to know the whole crew, you might eventually join the socializing and then it'll happen too, though this is less common.

4) Be some "cool" profession, like a well-known local musician or something.

5) If they stay in the industry after they become a single mother, you often can catch them just by being the guy who will put up with their bullshit and still house them / play daddy.

But really, just don't.

>>16793449
I go to this dive bar in NY with my gf and her friend every now and then and ended up playing pool with a latin king guy who did "bad, terrible things". I shat bricks when she absent mindedly brought up her NYPD cousin, but thankfully i was able to keep things smooth and later had a talk with her. Dude was cool, and I could tell he was hurting because he'd never find a stable relationship with his role in life like we had, while actually being happy for us. My girl was naive as hell in the moment, but i could tell he was a good person forced into a bad lifestyle. I genuinely hope he finds peace for himself.

>>16793449
No, and no human being let alone a "punk bartender" talks like that.

>>16788503
>Actually, I'm being generous if I call normies "people". They're raving mongoloids. I think the bar I work at should only allow 26+ year-olds.
FTFY. "Drinking age" is such an authoritarian concept, it's downright Swedish. What's next, will the police tell me not to drink coffee after 19:30, or forbid me from eating more than 4 eggs a week?

>>16793472
>alcohol + sugar = hangover
hangovers are mainly caused by dehydration so more or less sugar in cocktails doesn't make much of a difference, if one wants to avoid a hangover they only need to drink lots and lots of water before going to sleep

>>16793449
> soyface pfp
Checks out.

>>16793420
>Can I get away with ordering pussy drinks so I don't lose myself?
Whether a drink is "pussy" is mainly about its look and taste, not alcohol content. For example, beer is always socially acceptable, yet weak, and cheap in terms of total volume.

>>16794624
For the record, you're exactly the type of retard that no one wants to serve.

>>16793446
>tipping in bar culture in japan means the customers buy the bartender drinks, I get to drink the drink and pocket that money for myself instead of putting it in the till
So the bar loses money every time someone tips? That sounds like a system that could only work in a high-trust society.

>>16794726
Good. I can serve myself just fine.

>>16788446
Being a bartender really wears you out, since there is a lot of small things that work against you all the time. This video explains a lot of the issues:
https://youtu.be/louZDkWzkY8

>>16794733
Not him but my friend spent the past 2 years there on deployment and the way him and others have made it sound is that typically the bartender owns the bar, and if a bar has outside bartenders they hire then they're already making decent money.

>>16788539
dudes like the most famous tender in the workd

>>16794696
This guy gets it. One full glass of water for every 2-3 drinks and you'll wake up like nothing happened no matter how much alcohol you consume. Of course you'l be pissing a ton all night, but that beats a hangover imo.

>>16794726
>complains about normie NPC's
>complains about anon not wanting the government scheduling their life
>these are the same people
Sounds like you're just a bitter asshole who hates everyone at this point.

>>16794863
lmao at all the salty fags in the comments "oh am I just not supposed to go to the bar then?" I fucking hate burgershart NPCs that think you can't leave the house without being a rude, demanding retard.

Bonus onto this video working at a bar that is failing post covid: Sorry we can't keep all 36 taps stocked when there's at most 6 people here on a Saturday all ordering the same domestic piss water. Just because we don't have the specific local craft IPA fag shit doesn't mean we "have nothing", especially considering you didn't look at cocktails, and please do not shout this when there are people waiting for drinks or sitting down.

>>16788446
It's entirely tip based, so you have to learn charisma. It's like 60% charisma, 20% alcohol knowledge, 20% not murdering your co-workers.

>>16788446
>Tell me some of the most memorable stories you have from your job.
The boss shagged a health inspector, was weird
>What's your favorite drink to... drink?
Whiskey highball
>To make?
Fun ones like oyster prairies that don't get ordered much

>>16788446

>Started work in a gay bar
>never taken so many tips

>>16795686
But how's the pay?

>>16795692
Kek