/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Because it can kill you. Yes, even the mold that grows on your bread that you just tear the mold off and eat.

Because it's poisonous
>>16775279
You shouldn't do that, by the way. By the time that mold has become visible in spots, the whole thing has been tainted.

>why is poison bad

>>16775275
Mycotoxins, never heard of these ?

>>16775275
some mold has use for humans, but it is not direct consumption of food.
however it is used to make food and medicine

>>16775275
some dude got mold in his nose and it "ate" his face off. look it up.

>>16775275
The mold on cheese and dried sausages isn't the same kind of mold you find on rotting fruits and bread.
Just like their mushroom cousins, there are the good ones and the ones that kill you if you dare.

>>16775275
>mold is.... LE BAD

>>16775346
name ONE mushroom that can kill a grown man.

>>16775376
death cap

>>16775396
Only if you ingest it. Doesnt count. Try again bucko

>>16775275
There are good molds (like on cheese and aged steak). They are good because the people who sell them know what they are doing and know what cultures to cultivate.

Mold that grows on food that's been out for a long time is potentially hazardous because you don't know what strains of molds you have on there.

>>16775376
me

>>16775420
I admit thefeet

>>16775376
>get close to me and ur dead, bucko

>>16775434
Thats the talking tree in ocarina of time.
he wanted me to "enter" his hole.
pretty gay imo

Not all mold is bad, look into penicillan for instance.

>>16775458
penicillin has killed more people than cyanide.

>>16775405
>Only if you ingest it. Doesnt count.
Wait. Are you looking for a mushroom that can kill a grown man in, like, a fight?

>>16776184
Kek he’s a fucking retard

breh
I saw a video in biology of a guy that ate a partially molded bread and he got a rare mold that ate his face off
HIS FACE WAS A HOLE

>>16776214
He got mucormycosis because he had a severely compromised immune system probably from diabetes and corticosteroid use.

Stay in good health and you don’t have to worry about the majority of fungal infections. And he didn’t get it from eating moldy bread he got it from the Mucor spores that are always around in the air. You’re breathing in some right now but you have a functioning immune system so it takes care of things.

>>16775370
>war is.. LE GOOD

>>16775376
Fly amanita

>>16775598
That's probably becuase they were overdosed by shit voodoo doctors and it wasn't the right stuff or the right amount.

>>16775279
>>16775309
>>16775312
Provide evidence of the toxicity of it, or your posts refute themselves. The dose makes the poison and often times it depends on the species of fungi. Sometimes it is completely harmless.
>>16775318
Momblog nonsense. While mytotoxins exist, they require a substantial dose to cause harm.
>>16775342
Anecdote and not even food related from the sounds of it.

This thread is filled with midwits.

>>16776734
Are there stewdasses cute?

>>16775312
>poison is bad.... b-because it just is, okay!?!

>>16775376
>>16775370
>>16775275
Don't let anyone stop you from eating mold, anon.
The food jew just wants you to never dare touch the powers that would be unlocked by eating bread mold.

>>16776801
You go blame mold for all of your life's problems yet blame jews. I'm not jewish and know that you're full of shit.
You should really look to yourself.

>>16775275
it's just a jewish trick
those crafty kikes don't want (You) to unleash your hidden potential

>>16776801
this, jews took away our psychoactive food molds so they could have them all to themselves. All composts actually go to the local synagoge where moldy bread is harvested then consumed. Allowing the rabbi to see a higher plane of existance and knowledge so he may come back to his flock and better edit their stragies for success. They took this from the normal man and thus astral projection is limited to only a select few who saw past the lies. Unfortunately, the mass amount of high level hebrew Astral projects (due to the immense quantity of moldy bread they consume, and their alive tradition of astral projecting) prevent normal astral projectors from reaching such high hights.

>>16776818
>T. scared his astral projection club will be democratized

>>16776822
Must be that third eye shit from space aliens and lizard people.
Where do idiots come up with this crap?

>>16776801
>>16776822
>23 posters
>amount unchanged
>absolutely BTFO'd by >>16776756 and >>16776228
>can't make a retort
>false flags by making a conspiritard da joos reply to try to associate retorts where you got destroyed with them.
not going to work.

>>16776825
That comes across as stupid shit right from alex jones.

>>16776825
no, wait what
I was at the park the other day, feeding the ducks some old bread and I SWEAR I heard one of them saying "oy, gevalt"
FUCK
fuckfuck fuck I was so blind
we all were
You guys, it wasn't "duck, duck, goose"
IT WAS "DUCK DUCK JEWS" ALL ALONG

>>16776845
It's intentional. Same poster who got BTFO'd earlier and can't come up with a response so they try to slander by association by setting up conspiritard strawmans.

>>16776858
so it seems so it seems.
>>16776845
Eat some moldy breed and prove me wrong then. you require at least 25 grams of the blue black and green mold.

>>16776865
Why would I want to eat moldy bread?
I'll leave eating that shit to you, report back.

>>16776874
I already told you the truth. follow the trail of big compost.

>>16776880
Hell fuckin no, I don't eat anything from a compost bin.

>>16775275
It taste bad like dirt

MOLDY BREAD TASTES LIKE POOPY POOPOO BUTT

>you can't eat mold because.....because you just can't, okay??

>>16776890
thats your lose.

>>16776930
t. HIV+ and immunocompremised.

>>16775446
>t. manchild who ragequit Dark Souls on live stream

>>16775434
>t. man who found out

>>16776756
In western countries with good food regulations the biggest concern isn’t acute toxicity but chronic exposure to very toxic mycotoxins that can result in increased cancers, kidney damage, birth complications and developmental issues within exposed populations. Aflatoxin B1, ochratoxin A and the various trichothecenes are such examples.

In this sense you are wrong when you state that mycotoxins require a substantial dose to cause harm. There is a reason our governments spend a lot of money regulating and monitoring for mycotoxins in our food supply and it is an important trade issue.

You should avoid mycotoxin exposure whenever feasible which, in our case, ultimately means not eating spoiled or contaminated foods. There is a wealth of literature supporting this basic precaution and knowingly consuming moldy foods is simply ridiculous. The idea that Penicillium = penicillin and therefore moldy bread is fine to consume is also absurd because 1. You do not know what Penicillium species is/are colonizing your bread, 2. Penicillin-producing species (P. chrysogenum and P. rubens) are unlikely to be on your bread and, 3. Even if they are on your bread they are also producing a suite of other secondary metabolites that may be unhealthy. Not only that but there are intraspecific variations in secondary metabolite profiles of fungi as well as the affect of substrate. For example I will gladly eat blue cheese made with Penicillium roqueforti but I would not feed livestock silage contaminated with this species because I know that it produces PR-toxin and other nasty toxins when grown on cellulose. On salty, milk substrates it is a delicacy and on silage it can be deadly.

In conclusion, do not eat mold-contaminated foods.

>>16776994
Everyone knows not to eat mouldy food kek

>>16777146
>le cheesey

>>16775275
Th mold creates toxins so they could continue eating the bread but not you.

>>16775376
many mushrooms can kill people are you retarded?

>>16775458
people can have reactions to penicillin, my coworker almost died as a kid because they didn't know she had an allergy to it

>>16777177
People can be allergic to virtually anything. Penicillin has saved millions of lives.

jews

>>16776214
>he got a rare mold
ok but what are the chances to have an epic or a legendary mold?

>>16777146
>I_wonder_whos_behind_this_post.jpg

>>16775275
Eat moldy bread then retard, see what happens

>>16775405
that's what they want you to think

>>16776756
>>16776840
do you really need to be spoonfed such basic concepts? you got this anon to reply and rupture your asshole, so congrats I suppose >>16777046
by any chance, are you also germ theory deniers? or just flat earthers?

>>16777830
I don’t understand this

>>16778458
I think there's a few other comics where they make fun of fantasy artists generally drawing males of other races as monstrous while females are just sexy women with different skin colour.
Does Oglaf even still publish anymore?

>>16776768
NOOOOOO You shouldn't drink mercury! It's bad for you! Why? It's just... LE BAD!

>>16775309
Dozens of times I have cut off cheese mold and ate the rest.

Will I die soon?

(I hope so btw)

>>16778458
what >>16778471
said, I cropped the top part out cause it's too spicy for 4 channel and I just had my 1 month vacation, dont want another

and yes they still publish every Sunday but it's been a pale shadow of itself for a long time

>>16775275
Certain people might have severe reactions to the bacteria that accompanies certain mold strains, most people will get nausea and/or diarrhea.
If you get really unlucky and eat too much of a bad mold strain you might ingest certain mycotoxins which can in high concentrations kill you.
The chance of that is pretty low though to be honest.

Since mold is just a type of fungi it is obviously impossible to simply say all molds are bad. Some molds are obviously fine to eat, like those people use to make cheese with.

>>16778486
NOOOOOO You shouldn't swallow cyanide capsules! It's bad for you! Why? It's just... LE BAD!

>>16778471
Okay I get it now but not obvious to a pleb like me

>>16778501
cheese is pretty dense, so i think its an exception where the mold doesnt penetrate

>>16779324
Mycelia can go through wood and rock. Cheese is nothing.

>>16776184
Thats what i asked. ingesting doesnt count.

>>16777177
Sorry, having reactions to medications have all been debunked, post covid vax. He was a retard who couldn't TRUST THE SCIENCE.

>>16779429
>ingesting doesnt count
Why?

>>16775405
look up "mold inhalation"

>>16775309
>poisonous
>>16775312
>poison

venomous*
fungi are alive

>>16781328

>itt: Ruski's try to convince America's dumbest to eat moldy food
I wouldn't be surprised to see this shit on /pol/ in a few days, probably is a China virus cure with some bullshit about penicillin in food mold being good for you.

>>16777876
>dose dependency, mycology, and toxicology are beyond my peabrain's ability to grasp, do you really need to be spoonfed that MOLD BAD is bad? Let me make an ad hominem strawman by grouping you with germ theory deniers and flat earthers
Holy fucking shit, you're stupid. Also germ theory validates the posts because almost anyone who isn't immunocompremised wards off fungal infections fine and the dose of any toxins in it are very low and only clinically relevant if one was to eat several dozen extremely moldy loafs in one setting. Thanks for proving the midwit mindset, your post captures it 100%.

>>16782176
I'm not trying to convince anyone to make a habit of it. I merely proved that eating it will not result in health consequences for healthy adults.

>>16775411
>brand mold good
>home made mold bad
Kill yourself iDrone

>>16778486
>NOOOOOO You shouldn't drink mercury! It's bad for you! Why? It's just... LE BAD!

>>16782350
The health risk of moldy foods isn’t actually being infected by said moods it is consuming mycotoxins. This has nothing to do with germ theory and infectious diseases.

>>16778501
The difference is that cheese contains microbiological competion while bread contains virtually none.

>>16782478
how does he looks 5 years from now?
also there would be lots of mercury vapor that is very dangerous to breathe

>>16782478
That's just unicorn blood

>>16782543
>The health risk of moldy foods isn’t actually being infected by said moods it is consuming mycotoxins. This has nothing to do with germ theory and infectious diseases.
You're either a disingenuous midwit or you can't read. I explicitly addressed all of these and said as much. My first statement states just that, that fungal infections are extraordinarly rare. My second part of that following "and" addresses the toxic constituents are not capable of inducing injury at the doses in a single slice of moldy bread. The former part absolutely addressed germ theory which is indeed applicable as it encompasses all infectious microorganisms, even fungal pathogens, whereupon it was mentioned the very refute you tried to call into question.
>Also germ theory validates the posts because almost anyone who isn't immunocompremised wards off fungal infections fine and the dose of any toxins in it are very low and only clinically relevant if one was to eat several dozen extremely moldy loafs in one setting.

>>16777759
Epic: 10%
Legendary: 1%
Mythical: 0,001%

>>16783092
Fungal infections are not extraordinarily rare if you include vaginal candidiasis and mycotic dermatitis. In immunocompromised patients, which are increasing as a result of more diabetic people, people on steroids and immunosuppressants etc, fungal infections are not uncommon.

Acute aflatoxicosis cases are reported in dogs who have consumed moldy bread. I don’t think people here are worried about dying from eating a single slide of moldy bread but considering how acutely toxic some of these mycotoxins can be, like citrinin, why would you advocate eating moldy bread or dismiss its health risks?

>>16776818
that anon's an idiot, but jews are actually an issue.

>>16775275
Eat some and find out, moron.

>>16784221
Truth.

>>16775275
I dunno that looks funky fresh to me. Dig in homie, and enjoy the extra flavors

>>16783092
okay so what exactly is your point? literally no one here is saying that one slice of moldy bread will kill you, we're saying that there's no reason to purposefully, knowingly, ingest toxins. Can't believe that "don't eat spoiled food" is somehow a controversial opinion here.

>>16786830
This. He's obviously some pedantic wannabe-intellectual who thinks a contrarian stance on eating fucking moldy bread makes him some sort of rogue man of letters.

>>16776734
1 cap wont kill you so wont 2 3 4
more like deathcap, youre factually wrong

>>16777046
Is picking off a piece of mold from bread or cheese every once in a while really any more dangerous and/or risky than regularly eating nitrates or grilled foods or drinking alcohol?