/ck/ - Food & Cooking

is it not just a sticker and some leds?
someone's run the numbers and decided that product clarity is worth the energy cost or else they wouldnt be showing up
free market cares only for "efficient" as a byproduct

>>16662174
nah, they're lcd screens. they're kind of in an idle mode that switches when it detects movement. there's also a microphone for some reason? i dont have anything to say to a food door

>>16662168
technology is a mistake

>>16662168
Are those freezer section doors?

>>16662168
it actually saves energy because people won't need to open the freezer and sit there reading prices as all the cold escapes

>>16662313
They're also probably better insulated since they can be opaque, they're also undoubtedly data mining consumer spending habits.

>>16662168
If I see one of these in real life I will go full Kaczynski and take a crowbar to every single one. And if they replace them I will go back and smash them again until they learn their lesson.

>>16662349
what you'll actually do is walk past them angrily and imagine destroying them

>>16662368
Just you wait.

>>16662349
God have mercy on those that would put a wall between anon and his tendies

>>16662368
He wouldn't have to some (((urban youths))) would do it on camera and get away with it.

>>16662313
THIS, you boomer retards.
It also saves the time/trouble of wagies having to manually change price stickers on the cooler shelves anytime there’s a price change or selection change.

>>16662168
Can easily sell advertising space

>>16662406
what they'll actually do is use facial recognition to customise the display when you walk by to sell you more stuff

>>16662406
>It also saves the time/trouble of wagies having to manually change price stickers on the cooler shelves anytime there’s a price change or selection change.
Plenty of stores are even switching over to digital pricetags, which cost pennies when bought in bulk and can be adjusted remotely. Loblaw's Superstore switched over to them at most locations.

>>16662394
Those echoes don't mean what you think they do.

>>16662440
It's OK because you and everyone else knew what I was thinking.

>>16662168
just tell people to use their phones in a lobby and have it ready for you for pick up.

>>16662503
wat

>>16662168
advertising, and to enable them to pressure brands into paying even more money to the market.
Instead of just "position on the shelf" and "amount of space", the supermarket could also sell actually showing the product vs showing a box, putting the box in the right place on the shelf instead of another product. Goal, make even more cash.

>>16662168
You cropped the pic. If OP HAD LEFT THE RIGHT third of the pic, you’d see the part where you put in your cash, or swipe your EBT card, and the slot at the bottom where you collect your frozen foods.

>>16662517
why does it have microphones

>>16662421
>what they'll actually do is use facial recognition to customise the display when you walk by to sell you more stuff
I don’t see how that’s applicable to a frozen food section in a grocery store.

And yes I’ve seen the Japanese vending machines that do that. It was hot as fuck when I tried one, it could tell I was hot/sweating, and suggested an electrolyte drink.

>>16662523
Data mining. A lot of them have cameras, too.

>>16662523
Employee call button.

>>16662517
>Instead of just "position on the shelf" and "amount of space", the supermarket could also sell actually showing the product vs showing a box
It’s a frozen food aisle. Not vendor products. The store isn’t “selling” shelf space there.
>putting the box in the right place on the shelf instead of another product
Now that’s just retarded. The store would only be hurting itself by not selling stock it’s already purchased. And they couldn’t do it with vendor items because they could sue the fuck out of a store purposely mislabeling shelf space the vendor paid for.

And vendors already pay for special in-store marketing campaigns/promotions so letting them do it on screens would be nothing new, except for the screens.

>>16662524
Haha sexy vending machines. Those silly japs.

>>16662573
>It’s a frozen food aisle. Not vendor products. The store isn’t “selling” shelf space there.
no but they could sell ad space

>>16662524
every supermarket already has you in a database and knows what you buy.

>>16662573
being frozen is no difference to the regular aisles. every spot in a market outside the sections for the home brands is sold.

>>16662593
not me i pay for everything in cash and wead a mask plus hoodie

>>16662586
They've been doing that since like 2019.

>>16662597
This is 100% wrong though.
Shelf space is sold (leased, rather) to *vendor companies*.
These are things like large soda companies such as Coke and Pepsi.
Also chips like Frito-Lay.
And beer companies are often stocked as vendor products.
That’s why coke doesn’t arrive in the trucks with the rest of the food. A coke vendor drives a coke truck to the store and stocks the coke. Store employees don’t touch/restock the coke. The coke vendor does.
Regular shelf space is not sold/leased.

Just make the doors see-through

>>16662615
you are being gang stalked.

>>16662338
What is point of sale

>those product choices
Do americans REALLY do this?

>>16662593
Then why do they keep removing items I buy?

>>16662168
I could never understand the purpose

>>16662708
Well, it is the frozen food section.

>>16662814
He's probably confused as to why they're not exclusively selling nothing but Dr. Oetker freezer pizzas.

>>16662168
What if I want to read ingredients or nutritional data of my tendies?

>>16662168
It's saving energy for the store because no doors being hung open or even worse left open.
It's time saver for the shoppers because no need to look through cloudy glass trying to spot the product you want.
Clears up time for staff to do other shit not having to face the freezers constantly because some low life moves the products around or dump unwanted products in the freeze due to laziness.
You reach in, get what you want, carry on.

>>16662800
you don’t buy enough to make it worthwhile

>>16662617
>Grab some

>>16662436
in rural areas, walgreens and other corporations have determined that its not worth the investment, pretty much every chain drugstore in the U.S. that is in a rural or poor area has a corporate "use and abuse" policy where they only do necessary maintenance and let the store fall apart while raking in that sweet sweet pharmaceutical money. Even better is if they can find some dip shit grad straight out of pharma school and pay them a shit-tier salary

>>16662832
You are not supposed to handle the merchandise without purchasing it. Touching the product, then replacing it, is unhygienic, and it is frowned upon.

>>16662982
i like to fart on produce

>>16662168
Those screens actually use less power than windows. Also, it has been proven through research that the screens minimize unnecessary opening of the freezer door.

>>16662200
The microphone is part of the proximity detection, listening for the sound of a person standing there.

Why don't americans just have glass doors on their freezers so you can see inside?

>>16662436
my local superstore switched over to them like 3 years ago, and then switched back. i'd always see wagies fighting with them and they were just generally fucked-up/wrong most of the time

>>16662168
It is to save energy by preventing people from opening the doors and letting out all of the cold air. Takes more energy to replace the cold air than it takes to power a screen.

>>16662800
They don't want you to shop there anymore. You're scaring the straights.

>>16663172
>Takes more energy to replace the cold air than it takes to power a screen.

I don't think I've ever seen these before, so I have no idea how they work. But wouldn't you have to open the door to find out whether they have stock of the thing you could have easily seen through the glass before?

>>16662168
>>16662174
>>16662313
>>16662338
>>16662406
>they save energy!
Are you people dense? They exist to show you advertisements, that's how the store "saves" money. The software therein also keeps an inventory of the best selling choices without the store owner needing to do it manually (while also selling the data for profit).
The database of products that it will display is also pay-to-play. A food manufacturer pays the fridge screen company to get their product in there. If they don't, the store isn't going to buy their inventory since the screens won't be able to show it. They also charge fees depending on which shelf (bottom or top) the product is eligible to be displayed in.

It is basically a middleman deciding whose products get sold and showing ads.

>>16663341
yes one of the other anons already said they use it for data mining you stupid fuck. learn to read the thread

>>16663341
You are beyond retarded.
They absolutely save energy. It’s one of the primary selling points.
It greatly reduces door-opening except when a customer is purchasing something.
You think a few pixels aren’t a shitton cheaper in energy terms than running compressors to maintain temp?
>A food manufacturer pays the fridge screen company to get their product in there. If they don't, the store isn't going to buy their inventory since the screens won't be able to show it. They also charge fees depending on which shelf (bottom or top) the product is eligible to be displayed in.
And now you just went boomer-tier schizo.

>>16663604
>he thinks that will stop baboons from opening the door and gawking in minutes at a time anyway

>>16663328
Most of those aren’t just doors, they’re fully integrated units.
I have a local convenience store that uses them for soft drink coolers. If a slot becomes empty, the machine knows it and places a “Sorry, currently out of stock” message over the product graphic.
I imagine it’s also good for letting the wagies tell at a glance they need to refill something.
But also, with any “screen-coolers” I’ve seen in stores, the door/screen is far from opaque. When you’re close to it, you can see the shelves through the images.
I imagine the ones in OP’s image are similar, but it just doesn’t show well in the photo.

>>16663615
>he thinks it’s those occasional retards who cause most of the door-open time
It’s more that those retards trigger a door-opening chain effect.
>some retard opens the door for an extended time to browse (or a non-retard does the same to examine nutrition/ingredient info)
>open door completely fogs up
>adjacent doors may fog up as well due to duration
>person closes door and walks off
>next customer walks up
>they would normally look through the glass, but because of door-fog, they *must* open the door just to see what products are in there
>they browse with the door open and make their selection
>next customer walks up…
It can take minutes for that fog to clear up after the door is closed. That’s usually fine for a lot of suburb grocery stores unless it’s a particularly busy day. But for stores in more urban markets with higher customer traffic relative to their square footage, those doors stay open a large part of the day for that reason.

Which is exactly why these coolers have been present in a lot of stores in major downtown areas for a couple of years now. The energy savings was worth the investment.

>>16663686
i had to pull and completely restock 16 feet of pint ice creams 4 different times this fucking summer because retards would keep the doors open so long that the ice melted inside the freezer, so when it got less busy/closed the ice would refreeze and jam the the fans. then we'd have to call a 3rd party maintenance crew to drain the freezers, losing sells. huge volume store in texas

>>16662349
Wish I could do that but my grocery store has a no crowbar policy unfortunately.

>>16663737
bring a cane

>>16663586
Nope, retards here still think this is meant to save energy.
>>16663604
>They absolutely save energy.
Even if it might (you haven't proven this), that's not the primary purpose.
>It’s one of the primary selling points.
You know exactly shit about this. Read their actual product website and notice how it doesn't even talk about energy savings. All it talks about is how it "delights" consumers and gives stores access to brands that paid into the digital infrastructure (coolerscreens.com - their logo is on OP's pic).
>boomer-tier schizo
Either you are a naive child or you're deliberately shilling.

>>16662338
>data mining consumer spending habits
anon, you know they already have that data by virtue of.. selling the items, do you?

An entire thread about people arguing over micro - capitalism to scrimp and save a few penny's here and there which equates to a few tens of thousands of dollars a year for a single grocery store...

This is why humanity is going down the shitter.

>>16663998
Their product centralizes data from all stores that implement it and gives access to the brands that buy into it. It's less about the store getting metrics and more about the food companies.

>>16663977
>you haven't proven this
What’s to prove? LCD pixels require less energy than a giant. freezer compressor. Period.
>Read their actual product website
You think that’s the only manufacturer of such things?
You think people who approve major tangible-asset purchasing decisions at large companies give a fuck what “delights” consumers? There’s no metric for “delight”. They want to know what it will either save them or make for them, with actual numbers.
You’ve clearly never never had a job that involves convincing a CFO to buy something.
>Either you are a naive child or you're deliberately shilling.
I’m neither, though your shilling bit proves schizo on your part.
I actually understand the industry in question. You don’t know shit beyond what you read on a consumer-facing website and the garbage conspiracies your schizo imagination conjures up.

>>16664081
>LCD pixels require less energy than a giant. freezer compressor.
So an LCD screen and a freezer uses less energy than a freezer? Nice IQ
>You think that’s the only manufacturer of such things?
It's the exact one in OP and the one we're discussing. Cry about it.
>There’s no metric for “delight”.
It's called sales and revenue. Read their page
>You’ve clearly never never had a job
Screech harder, you're wrong. Next time try to know something about the subject you want to argue about.
>I actually understand the industry in question.
You think putting an LCD screen on a freezer means the freezer uses less energy and you don't understand that revenue is the primary goal of a business. I wouldn't hire you to clean toilets.

>>16664105
>making arguments when you’ve disregarded posts explaining otherwise in the thread
Fuck off, schizo. If you’re too dumb and lazy to read before interjecting, that’s on you.

>>16664115
You made up something about people opening freezer doors, claiming it's the main selling point, which the actual product doesn't even advertise to the stores. Sorry that reality disagrees with your fantasy, but that's just life. Next time don't sperg out over something you have no idea about.

>>16664028
i find it interesting. better than talking about fast food for the umpteenth time

>>16664028
>autists arguing
*ftfy
btw, tourist, this is how this shitty site works

>>16662523
to speak with the wagie inside the fridge that's getting your shit for you

>>16664032
But wouldn't the stores provide that data anyways?
And if not, wouldn't the companies make out the data by noticing how many products the store order?
And if not, does it matter anyway, since the store decides how much product they order?
I'm sure the robots at coca cola know better than me but fuck man

>>16664214
looks like its eye tracking what people look at on the screen

>>16662313
Anon wtf is a window

>>16664222
>shits on your billion dollar investment for the price of looking like a rockstar
checked

>>16664126
>the actual product doesn't even advertise to the stores
Based on your “expertise”, which is based on clicking on a consumer-facing website. You’re a literal “internet expert” on the subject.
The fact that you think “advertising to stores” is done via that sort of thing shows you’re inventing your “knowledge” as you go along.

>>16664235
this is literally cheaper than windows in the USA. if you are from some other country then it might not be the best solution for your country

>>16664249
Yes, the stores are the consumers, and your claimed energy savings are not mentioned on the "consumer-facing website".
You want people to believe the CoolerScreen definitely saves energy without any evidence and that it's their main "selling point". Yet you're implying they also hide this very important benefit from their public advertisement and only share it via confidential avenues.
You sperged out retardedly and now have to way to reconcile the retarded argument you've made with reality.

>>16662168
Where in the world is this? What am I looking at? Are these buttons you push to get the thing?

>>16662168
Because of the frosted glass you can't even see if the product is stocked or in the right place.

>>16662313
>open the freezer and sit there reading prices as all the cold escapes
Anon... Glass is has the special property of normally being see through. No one opens the doors to "read the prices".

>>16662832
The door is still closed for a two extra seconds of you looking for what you need

>>16664362
>has zero concept of the difference betweeen consumer sales and B2B sales
Please give more conspiracy theories. You haven’t even mentioned how the evil CoolerScreen receives instructions from 5G towers to activate the nanomachines present in customers who got covid vaccines.

>>16664460
Boomers with poor eyesight who refuse to get glasses often do, which causes condensation on the glass so the next person also have to open the door to see the prices.
Vicious cycle.

>>16662313
this is why they invented GLASS

>>16662168
>aesthetics, bro? we don't have that here.

>>16662168
Never seen this before but I like it for some reason.

>>16662168
>Hot pockets pep pizza
Don't mind if I do

>dynamic pricing based on inventory
>people open the doors less
>people can see the prices better (especially good when it's a freezer and the tags get frost on them)
>less manpower needed to change all the price tags or put up sales signs (this was a huge pain in the ass when I worked retail as a kid)
>the screens themselves probably don't cost much more than a regular door

>>16662168
so we can change the price on the fly.

>>16662168
Don't fall for the slippery slope

They started doing this shit at the buffet restaurant I go to, and it started out innocent... but eventually it became

>you're not allowed to look at the food, you have to buy it first and then we deliver it to you, no refunds btw

>>16664949
you're already not allowed to look at the food because it's in boxes, a picture of the box makes no difference. You guys are probably right about the insidious intentions though, jews have to ruin everything :(

>>16664949
who the fuck refunds food at a restaurant lmao

>>16662313
c-can you not see through glass?

>>16662168
The immediate amerilard response to seeing an empty shelf is "Holy shit, [insert current president] is turning us into LITERALLY vuvuzuela and the economy is DONE FOR. This makes it less likely for them to start singing the national anthem in the middle of the store and uploading the video to youtube, giving the grocery store free publicity. This publicity is marginally more valuable than the price of installing lcd screens everywhere.

>>16664585
literally just come by with a cloth every few hours not this retarded shit

>>16665147
don't care didn't read plus you're jewish

>>16665257
based

>>16663341
They literally don't show ads, though. Stores do inventory every day so they had access to all of this sale data anyway.

>>16662501
Yeah. Niggers vandalize and steal but always get off the hook with a slap on the wrist.

>>16662168
So that when you swap where everything is you can film a very amusting Tik Tok video of people getting confused.

>>16664214
>But wouldn't the stores provide that data anyways?
yes, simply by tracking sales, which just happens organically.

its just tech for the sake of tech. more useless jobs for useless people to do in the name of ironically inefficient "efficiency"

>>16662406
I've never heard trouble with finding the things I want to buy or reading the price tags. How is this even a problem for people.

>>16662200
They're going to be playing ads on them.

the prices are going up so fast, it's cheaper to do this instead of paying a platoon of people to relabel price tags

>>16663027
it tells you to talk to it

>>16662168
to scam investors
this is clearly not intended to go anywhere

>>16667741
There's lcd displays over the freezer bins full of chicken and fish at the grocery store near me that play ads

>>16665257
No you have it backwards, the based redpilled fashy kekistan goy opinion is that Americans are ZOGbot consoomer globohomos.

>>16665323
As opposed to figuratively not showing ads?