/ck/ - Food & Cooking

dried fruit/meat/soup
>water
I hope you find a well somewhere or a river.
Townsends does a good series of what people did back in the day to preserve foods.

nah just work it out as you go

>>16662614
>I'm going to live in a solar power off grid home in the middle of the desert.
Literally never going to happen. You're asking a fast food board on a Laotian Fishing Net trading forum for advice.

>>16662614
Why would you ever do that in a desert? Where do you think you're going to find a good, reliable water source in the middle of a desert? You can't even fall back on fishing if you can't hunt. You can't have a garden.

>>16662734
duno. was hoping that people here could tell me. I just wanna get away from it all and be self sustainable.

>>16662742
and a barren fucking desert is the first place you could think of?

>>16662742
>>16662614
Hi anon, actual homesteader here to give you an actual answer
Expect to commit a minimum of 500-1000 hours of research prior to an endeavour such as this unless you're prepared to die or give up very quickly. You yourself are admitting to having no knowledge of survival, cultivation, self-sufficiency or otherwise. This is not something you can just go do like having mommy take you to the grocery store.
Will gladly reply to answer more concentrated questions, but will leave the following:
First, consider how big the earth is. You absolutely do not have to choose a desert - but you still can. Otherwise, investigate the following:
Aquaponics (esp for desert living) and hydroponics
- note: you are literally required to learn how to farm aquaponics if you are going to survive alone in the desert. not much way around that afaik. investigate and formulate the necessary materials to breed the fish required and start gardening today if you don't know how
Food Forest Cultivation (not for deserts obviously)
Regenerative Farming/Organic nitrate production
Gardening in general - If you can't grow food with 99% certainty it won't die, then you will die. It's simple as that
Learn to rear chickens. Being alone this should be all you need, but you could probably manage a pig per year and salt cure that in the desert with a proper setup

>>16662742
>>16662833
kek the fucking state of this board

>>16662884
what set up would I need to raise one pig and salt cure it in a barren waste land?
don't pigs need to eat and drink?

>>16662928
>what set up would I need to raise one pig and salt cure it in a barren waste land?
extraordinarily loaded question that only you can answer based on where you end up. you need to account for obtaining water (it doesn't rain more than 1-2 times a year in most deserts, need to have massive reservoir to capture this rainfall & need to establish some level of community supply chain to get water unless you're located by a stable supply)
as far as feeding animals go, you'll be growing the food, and need to account for the amount your animals will eat and then some buffer on top of that. again, you need extreme emphasis on an aquaponic setup to function in a desert. you need to be nearby a freshwater source, or establish community supply chain with locals. really can't emphasize how you shouldn't even be having this conversation with people if you don't know where water flows to in a desert, go read a few books on the subject and check out homesteaders in the area you're investgating, i.e.:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWlhi1lKAwmbqGSVcH233jQ/videos

>>16662951
why do you keep saying community?
this is going to be a solo project. If I'm going to suck a guy's dick for water I might as well get a wage job and live like you robots.

>>16663078
Because no one is capable of living solo in the desert without the support of some kind of society, especially someone like you.

>>16663078
You know, people who live out in the wilderness alone still trade with other people for their needs. One person might raise bees and one chickens. One will trade for honey and the other will trade for eggs and/or chicken meat.

>>16663121
>just start a silk road bro you can't do anything solo
well I prefer to live in the real world, but thanks for wasting my time with your lawrence of arabia roleplay I guess?

>>16663176
you're sincerely delusional/far too sheltered to consider this a viable path
i'll consolidate any further answers with this: there is a reason people do not do what you are considering. with these responses, it's very obviously you are sheltered and quite likely privileged and live in comfort - you clearly cannot fathom or understand the effort and lifestyle change that comes with self sufficiency and survival/homesteading in general.
again, reread my answers. i propose community as a secondary answer in all situations. you're trying to figure out how you get your own water without anyone elses help in the desert? you need you make your own wastewater treatment (aquaponics) to reuse all water you ever obtain, and will almost certainly have to locate yourself in a lowland/basin and account for what comes with living on those lands
in short, the answer to all of your retarded questions is hard work. you need to work harder than you currently seem to understand, given that you can't even pick up the mouse to research it.

>>16662627
Kek

>>16663234
/thread

>>16663234
>elbow grease and a mouse will make water fall from the sky
OK Lawrence, thanks for the great "help". I'll get that communal pigsty up in a jiffy.

Now if anyone who actually knows what they are talking about wants to chip in I am all ears.

>OP after 2 weeks.

>>16662614
prickly pear

>>16663244
>...without any need for society
>Blah blah blah use society ofc!.

No, not /thread. If you want to wax your cock about how diverse the local farmer's market is go make your own thread. This one is about desert survival strategy.

>>16663248
Just head out to the dessert and bring a big gulp of water, anon. Easy as.

>>16663251
Why is he doing that? Sand can't taste that good, can it?

>>16663248
>have to locate yourself in a lowland/basin
>water from the sky
nigga did you drop out before middle school geography?

>>16662614
go back to /out/ you larper

>>16663281
>He's never heard of rain

>>16663263
what a pathetic attempt at a troll thread, maybe try taking a shower first before you head out in the desert, i know you wont even achieve that. one guy actually tried to help you and you kept trying to pretend youre too tough to use other peoples help, what an embarassing person.
this is what happens when a flyover inbred hillbilly dicovers 4chan.

>>16663302
You stopped taking prep long enough to repy, didn't you faggot?
lmfao

>>16663248
that guy had good advice. you're in way over your head. if i was a worse anon I would encourage you to go out and try it, but that would be encouraging your death

living solo in a desert is no joke, and requires extreme degrees of hard work and ingenuity.

>>16663078
You sure have a feeling of superiority for a dumb little faggot who has no idea what he’s doing. I hope you die out there

>>16663234
Is it hard to learn how to take care of goats, and chickens? I think this is a good start. You get tons of milk everyday. cheese. butter. and eggs.

>>16662614
Go off grid in the abandoned wood lot behind McDonalds and live off dumpster scraps

>>16664052
>hey give me advice on how to make a pie without apples please
>WEEELLLL FIRST GET SOME AAAPPPLLLESS THEN --
No, the guy's illiterate and retarded, like yourself. A community isn't going to appear in a barren desert just because I "need" it to. There's a better way, a solitary method to thriving in an endless sandy waste, and that's what I want help with.

>>16662614
>I'm going to live in a solar power off grid home in the middle of the desert.

>I was wondering what I should do for food and water in order to survive in the long term without any need for society.

>>16664423
They literally told you the steps to doing it completely by yourself and you exclusively ignored that to mention the fact they say you'll need a community **IF** you don't do those things lmao
I doubt you've spent an hour outside this week

>>16664479
>they
Yeah no, your advice was shit. Sorry, not sorry

>>16662614
>moving to the middle of the desert
>wondering how to get water
This seems like something you should have given major consideration...

This reminds me of a thread I saw on reddit where a guy posted asking for advice on climbing Everest despite having absolutely no climbing/cold weather experience. He got mercilessly bullied and called a retard and told he would certainly die until he deleted the thread.

>>16664423
>A community isn't going to appear in a barren desert just because I "need" it to.
Neither will water. You're going to die, retard. Doesn't matter regardless, as this is a le ebin bait thread. Janny's really earning his keep today.

>>16664534
Yeah but this is the opposite in that OP is based and no one is helping him because, surprise surprise, the fat asses at /ck/ don't have any dune dwelling expertise to share.
So far the suggestions are: bring a village with you, and don't starve.... yeah, a real brain storm's afoot.

>>16662614
Follow the animals, they'll lead you to water sources. Then kill them and use their bodies as bait for bigger animals.

>>16664562
Good, this is valuable. Thank you for this.

>>16664084
And what would they eat in a fucking desert?

>>16664837
SANDwiches