/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>16554372
>Food which is mediocre
“The food in Italy is so good” is a meme parroted by YouTube faggot vloggers. For one, it was evident they were very anal about the “original recipe”. I went to fucking carrefour one night and got guanchale, parm, eggs, and cream. The autist at checkout told me, in broken English and without me mentioning anything, “no cream in carbonara, no cream”. You can tell this creates a culture which looks down upon experimenting. The result? Take Rome. Every place serves only cacio e pepe, gricia and carbonara, ALL the same give or take one ingredient or two. And amatriciana, which is just meh.

>Hotel breakfast
3-star or 4-star hotel, didn’t matter, breakfast was always crap:
Bread, jam in plastic containers airline-style, nutella
Croissants (just crescent shaped bread, no butter, no flaky, no crisp)
Sliced supermarket cheese, ham, only boiled egg.
Cereal dispenser, boxed juice, long shelf-life milk.

>International food
Absolute TRASH too, superbly bad, as expected. Only resorted to that since food places were closed between 3-7pm.

There is a very good reason faggots like Mark Wiens and Trevor James almost never check-out Europe. Is French food as big of a meme? I must know.

Also, FUCK Trenitilia for having no airconditioning in 40 ᵒC, that was so fucking third-world. They even screwed the trains’ windows with loose screws so that you couldn’t open them. Fuck them.

Reminds me of when my brother made dinner for his in-laws when he first started dating his wife
>be bro
>making dinner for gfs family at their house
>parents and grandparents are italian immigrants
>mama mia but whatever
>gf tells him to make spaghetti since it's everyone's favorite
>makes it
>brings out to table
>grandparents look pissed
>grandfather turning red and swearing
>grandmother goes from english to italian
>goes from pissed to crying upset
>dad threatening to kick bro's ass for making grandma cry
>gf and mom trying to bring order
>bro ends up bailing without saying a word when he hears pops rifling through cupboards
>finds out later that grandparents were upset because the presentation and smell didn't match what they traditionally had/made back in italy
>hes never cooked anything for them since

Yeah man. I walked into one place and the 5'2" grey haired waiter said to me as snooty as possible "do you have a reservation?" I'm like "why are you full?" the whole dining room starts laughing at him. He is showing us to the table mumbling sorry, he has a large party coming later and while the place might look half empty he has to think about the tables later on. Like whatever dude.

I think that a lot of these restaurants are family owned and dependent upon tourist trade not repeat business and local reputation. I also think that a lot of these families have a half retarded brother, son, son in law or brother in law who needs a job and he ends up being a miserable waiter from age 15 to 55.

>>16554398
>the whole dining room starts laughing at him.
did they also stand and clap for your epic btfo?

>>16554403
No because that would be ridiculous and not what happened. I think when you read the whole dining room started laughing at him you are thinking of some uproarious shit, but it was more like ... three of us walk into the place soaking wet from the rain, the room is silent and looking at us, he asks, I reply, there is some laughter around the room and then everything resumes.

>>16554372
This isn't yelp.

Lived in Italy for three months, this was unironically my exact experience

yeah its called Paris Syndrome, you realised its just another country with tired people that are sick of dealing with tourists

>>16554372
>Inb4 anyone accuses me of being American, I am not, I am a med, and even by my standards service was bad.
So either you're Spanish or a subhuman, and we can discuss about the former being the latter. You got the service you deserve.

>go to tourism country
>get scammed
Wow, what a surprise. Don't ever come to Spain, I don't want to read your blogpost about frozen paella.

>>16554507
I was in Santander in 2019. Food was exceptional, good quality, good value, very fresh. Way better service.

>>16554507
I went to Barcelona and everywhere I ate was great

I ate from milan down to salerno and except for rome it was all delicious. I think you're just one of those people who lack basic intuition when it comes to selecting quality items for a decent price, and had no way of discerning which dishes were good or where to find them when the suggestions failed you. crying about the waiters being mean is pretty gay btw. you sound like a needy faggot.

>>16554372
Op can't handle the culture shock and adapt so he makes some travel guy liberal complaint... typical.

>>16554372
Thanks for this. I went to Italy a few years back and was genuinely aghast at how shit it was. Everything from how filthy and graffitied every surface of every building is, to the horrible service and nasty, stuck-up, arrogant people, to the mediocre food.

Every time I've ever expressed this, the dago apologists come out of the woodwork to tell me that I only went to shitty tourists places or that I'm a dumb, fat American or something. They ignore clear and blatant structural flaws within the Italian culture that makes spending any amount of time there insufferable.

There are many wonderful places to see in Europe with kind people and delicious food. Italy isn't one of them.

>>16554372
>Ironically, they would all wear white collared shirts and bow-ties, but acted like their wife didn’t suck their dick in 10 years.

I don't know how those two statements are supposed to go together or what's ironic about it

>>16554398
Europe is full of inbreeding

>>16554885
Their put-together appearances being ironic in contrast to their shitty unprofessional behaviour mentioned in the sentences prior.

>>16554893
but what does that have to do with getting their dicks sucked?

I think Jamie Oliver said when you visit Italy you have to go stay with a family. Get out of the cities, find an Italian matriarch in the countryside feeding her family and you'll understand Italian food.

>>16554896
Presumably, the lack of satisfactory oral sex was a contributor to their overall unhappy and unpleasant demeanor.

>>16554896
Because they're dressed nicely but have a shitty attitude, he was using a vulgar/humorous way to say that and it isn't connected directly to the preceeding statement.

I went to italy years ago, the north though, and the food was pretty bland and I just chalked it up to that being the more industrial, working part of the country that's more like central and western europe than the southern half. The only thing I really remember was getting a plate of spaghetti and meat sauce that tasted like something an average cook could make at home and being a little disappointed, like I figured if there was one thing they'd be better at lol. I had already been to europe so the slow service and how poor, dirty, and shitty a lot of it is wasn't a shock, although the waiters and staff at places were all friendly.

There are parts of europe that are like what yoi imagine as an american, mostly the wealthier (and whiter) countries and places, but even like switzerland has areas where it's crummy little buildings and unimpressive. Somewhere like italy where you have very high taxes and dishonest government, and bad employment prospects is just naturally going to have old broken down shit, litter, and poor people. I bet it's gotten worse since I was there too.

>>16554374
>. Is French food as big of a meme? I must know.
it's good, but nothing special, just alot of butter salt and pepper, but when made correctly it taste quite good and fullfiling
t. waffle, but the food here is practically the same albiet a bit more expensive

>>16554475
>tired people that are sick of dealing with tourists
the tourists that bring in 80% of the revenue of these resteraunts

>>16554847
>Op can't handle the culture shock
what, the shock of mediocre food, with bare mininim service, yea, what an amazing culture, laziness is not a good way to show hospitality

>>16554896
It’s an effeminate slander that someone who is miserable must not have any sex. Usually fags and women resort to this instead of sticking to the facts because they want “you go girl” snaps.

>>16554372
>look at me I sure am contrarian and edgy! nearly everyone universally agrees this thing is good so that means i must hate it! wow i sure do have a unique and edgy personality!

>>16554411
yeah that never happened

>>16554372
OP's main complaint is prices. That discards most of his opinions right there. Dining on a budget requires some research, and good travel sense to get a top experience. That said, food costs more for some countries.

Rating hotel breakfast, rofl. Really now? That is the definition of touristy. It'll be catered to what they deem are the assort tourist tastes, from the scandi sliced cold cuts for open faced sandwich, to dubious quality bakery items catered to new yorkers like bagels. Local Italians are doing a standup counter of delicious coffee and pastries at whoever is the best bakery and coffee shop in town. If your Italian hotel wasn't a Boscolo, or had it's own spa on site, it won't be amazing draw for locals to dine there, unless you order off a menu and it was cooked to order. Tourists are catching bus tours, so it's gonna be fast buffets. Even then, you can ask a waiter for a capucchino from the kitchen and eggs cooked to your liking. Be ready to compliment and talk to the staff who helps you, and tip or you get bad service on day 2.

In a local restaurant in Italy, service varies based on whether the help even likes you. Fact, that's Italy. Were you wearing a blazer? Did you show personal good taste in fashion, footwear, leathers, and clean cut grooming, and practice your culturally polite etiquette and manners? Italians don't look shabby when they go out on the town for dinner. They will be wearing labels and look good. Part of why they dress well is to be treated like someone deserving respect. They speak graciously to staff from the moment they arrive. If there is an old dude sitting at a back table with a newspaper and coffee cup, dine there! Make a reservation even if you don't think you have to do that. Hire a local, too, from a food tour host to a private guide. They know what to do. Best experiences had that way. They always know someone to hook you up.

>>16554374
>since food places were closed between 3-7pm.
what the fuck?

>>16554376
Reminds me of my mother-in-law who is so proud of her cooking and is championed by her family but all she makes is a handful of Ukrainian dishes and your average N American dishes (prime rib, spaghetti, sole etc).

I’ll never forget when I made spaghetti for them when they visited and just did my normal bologna see cooked over a long period of time. My father-in-law raved about it and said “you have to tell [his wife] how to make this” and kept remarking how amazing it was and even said it was much better than his wife’s. She was silent and brooding the whole dinner.

She’s also a huge bitch so the next time she visited I made a couple of HER specialties, cabbage rolls and borscht. It was my first time making them and I put some effort finding a good recipe and trying it out. Again she was BTFO but this time my father-in-law started off praising me but then kept quiet about it after realizing he was on thin ice.

I’ve since done this a few more times with perogies, which practically destroyed her emotionally that meal, and basically any other thing I cook. We were in an unspoken duel for a bit because my mother-in-law would sometimes show up at their visit with lots of groceries and insist on making dinner for their visits; I would acquiesce and then BTFO her for breakfast, lunch and dessert. It has gotten to the point where they insist on getting delivery or takeout food when they now visit.

It is such a nice albeit petty feeling to rub something in your cunt mother-in-law’s face like this. For 30 years she’s held her family hostage emotionally and been given the false title of World’s Greatest Cook yet she is mediocre at best, has maybe 12 recipes in her repertoire and cannot cook healthy meals to save her life and her whole family frequently has diarrhea after dinner (Not even making this up). I have to take famotidine when she cooks. She’s a know it all cunt but I knocked her off her thrown in the kitchen arena and she knows it.

>>16555097
Italians are lazy and that’s their “rest break” during the work day. Can you believe these scum claim to be ancestors of the Romans?

>>16554890
Ok Jose

>>16554374
The no cream in carbo is so fucking funny to me because its so obviously fucking better with crème and that really shows the just keep doing it for no other fucking reason than following their recipe. Eat cock guido.

I went to a restaurant favored by the locals when I visited Italy and the experience was horrible. Carbonara was dry and tasteless and when I asked for some 'chup with it the chef broke down mentally and started throwing kitchenware at me. Same happened at a pizza joint when I asked for more toppings since unsuprisingly tomato sauce and mozzarella didn't have enough taste. The chefs are so full off themselves, don't think of customers and when they realize a tourist could make better food than them they lose it and get violent. Disgusting country wlth disgusting food and people

>>16554981
That's Europe for you. And the food is good if you like actual fresh ingredients that go well with each other.
Italy is a no fuss style of living.

>getting filtered by Italian food
Kek

Oh no! How dare they not treat you like you're royalty? Fuck off to whatever country you're from and stay there for the rest of your life.

>>16554372
>Inb4 anyone accuses me of being American, I am not, I am a med, and even by my standards service was bad.

Yeah we all know that you're a lying fat burger that has burnt out taste buds from consuming hormone, chemical meats, plastic cheese, and corn syrup for your entire life.

hha italians are fags haha

>>16554374
Frenchfag here
French food is extremely good. Never eat at restaurants. 75% Serve pre packaged SHIT and I mean they barely fucking cook anything. The Agrofood industry DESTROYED the french restaurant and in touristic areas only a handful actually cook anything. Expensive as shit too.

The only place you're going to find good food are at country lodges or restaurants in the regions where they actually fucking cook ie; around Bordeaux and a bit farther away from big touristic centers.
There's also some legal label that are tightly enforced that require the food to be fresh, prepared from a raw form and everything to be done in house. Look for Maître Restaurateurs. The state takes this seriously and usually food is excellent and price is not too high.

>>16555076
Some of the gayest shit I've ever read, that's not even hyperbole.

>>16555146
>american flavours are so good and impactful you can barely notice the lesser, weak and dull flavours
funny how you are praising our cuisine and admitting europoor flavours are shit while also coping about muh ruined palate

>>16555102
>her whole family frequently has diarrhea after dinner (Not even making this up).
what is she putting into the food to cause this?

>>16555076
>Did you show personal good taste
>wearing labels
opinion discarded

>>16554974
Hello belgian bro. I guessing you stayed in the northern half ?

lol are you seriously including a review of your hotel breakfast? lol wtf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st21dIMaGMs&t=55s

>>16554507
>>16554475
>This country has tourism so the whole country is a tourist trap
You're idiots
>>16554997
>You cannot have a differing opinion, that's contrarian
You're braindead
>>16555076
>OP's main complaint is prices
That was one of a bunch of different bullet points. Stopped reading your post here because clearly you don't speak in good faith

I came from south Korea to Italy for a week. Had total culture shock in terms of how i was served in restaurants. Korean and Italy are olar opposites. I don't care what the reason is but Italians need to get some fucking manners when serving food. The waiters act like you pissed down their legs.

>>16555235
Italians are just terrible people in general. They're ruder than Indians.

>>16555235
in italy no one becomes a waiter for choice, its just the job unskilled people go for and they end up hating it

anyway youre a faggot op and kys

>>16555241
Most surprisingly the women arent that hot. Some are when really young but I think are 30 after too much sun they are shivelled up leathery pigs.

>>16555244
Who in the world ever wants to be a waiter. The fact is its your job to be polite and serve. Its literaly your only job..

>>16555235
You'll learn the hard way that euro service culture is very different from the Asian way. Asians are eerily polite to euros

>>16555164
She uses a ridiculous amount of oil, butter, margarine and basically any fat. Her food is absurdly rich and it gives everyone diarrhea and gives me acid reflux sometimes. The worse acid reflux I ever had was eating her food.

She often does that lame boomer move of customizing premade food and acting like she made it. She’ll buy bagged Caesar salad but also buy a jar of Caesar dressing to add that in as well. Her salads are swimming in dressing it is absolutely disgusting. And that’s the healthy part of the meal kek

My wife told me she always had “stomach issues” until she moved away from home. Then whenever she’d visit her parents, or they’d visit us, the “stomach issues” would return. My in-laws’ bathrooms after dinner stink to high heaven because everyone is shitting from eating a ridiculously rich meal (and lots of it). It’s absolutely disgusting and my mother-in-law is too dense to understand that eating like this is not healthy. It is no surprise my wife’s parents are both quite overweight but I’m surprised my wife escaped from that house without being overweight.

>>16555254
Despite Americans generally being coarse, crass and cringey in their outward demeanour and manners, they definitely have a better concept of service than the Europeans overall. Americans vote with their dollar and look at momentary transactions as almost holy, not to mention they don’t have the best job security, so the end result is even the lowest serfs at least feign enthusiasm and practice good service.

In Canada you go to a box store and the staff practically hide from you or shrug if you ask where something is. I was in the US once looking for some camping equipment at a box store (Dick’s or something like that) and the person didn’t know what I was talking about. In Canada that would have been the end of the interaction but at that store they ended up having four other people try to help me. They didn’t have what I wanted in the end but I was impressed with their desire to satisfy the customer.

My experiences dining in Europe have not been positive overall in terms of service.

>>16555318
I like how you're describing Americans as a Canadian like we're two totally different people. You guys act the same as us with a slight helping of Italianesque stuck up cuntiness.

>>16555318
Nah, in america a smile and a grovel is deemed more important than good service. Giving the customer what they ask for is deemed more important than giving the customer what they want or need.

A waiter is supposed to be there to give you the best dining experience not to fellate your fragile ego. I'm paying them because they're the expert on their own restaurant, food, and wine list, if I order something wrong, I want to know it, I don't want a fake smile and a "yes sir" and some behind the scenes sniveling. Fuck that shit, treating every customer like a manchild/karen on the verge of a tantrum is why we can't have nice things.

>>16555356
>Giving the customer what they ask for is deemed more important than giving the customer what they want

That's the same thing you moron.
> I'm paying them because they're the expert on their own restaurant, food, and wine list, if I order something wrong, I want to know it
If I ordered something and the waiter started arguing with me because "I'm ordering the wrong dish" I'd walk the fuck out.

>>16555356
>Treating customers like manchildren or karens
Aren't most burgers like this anyway?
They don't act like worms for no reason. They do it or customers make their life a living hell.
Thats just modern american consumer culture that caused this.

>>16555363
Its not the same thing and your remark proves the point I made above

>>16555318
Europeans don't like to be fawned over and fake-smiled at. Just take the order, bring the food, and don't be a prick.

Countless restaurants in the UK especially have tried to enforce American style 'service with a smile' and it pretty much always fails, because we know that it's completely fake and as a culture we're quite reserved, we don't like to be grovelled at or made to feel like we're minor royalty because we're ordering a fucking hot dog.

>>16555340
There are significant differences in how Canadians and Americans behave especially in business interactions. I can tell if someone is American very quickly no matter where I am in the world and it isn’t because of their accent.

>>16555365
I don't care what country you're from. With your retarded mindset you'd make a terrible waiter.

>>16555378
No there aren't. You're just another deluded Canadian that was raised to believe you're totally different than us even though you're completely identical. No one else in the world can tell us apart. That's why Canadians always have meltdowns when Euros or Asians confuse them for Americans.

>>16555390
>y-y-y-you’re just American like me
Kek keep coping faggot

>>16555373
lol I watched the Rate my Takeaway guy and your service faggots act just like ours.

>>16555379
You cant even comprehend the difference is just doing what you're told and doing what's best to satisfy the customer. You have to cater to your customer and guide them because, guess what, they don't fucking work here and know what's best for what they want. If the the customer wants the specific thing then you follow but if they appear hesitant or you have something similar that you feel will satisfy them more you suggest. Americans will always do as told even if its will result in a bad experience for the customer. You don't have to fucking argue and that's not what I'm saying should be done and the fact that you jumped to this tells me that you're exactly the kind of manchild that other anon talked about.

Don't worry though, good waiters can smell your barbarism from a mile and will make sure to not expect any kind of respect or tastefulness from you.

>>16555365
>aren't most burgers like this anyway?
>They don't act like worms for no reason. They do it or customers make their life a living hell.
Not inherently, it's trained. 99% of people are reasonable, where the cultures differ is in how to treat the outliers. In america it's about appeasement at all costs because everyone is equally right and equally wrong at the same time. In europe the freakshow 1% karens/manchildren are not fellated, they are treated as the rude guests that they are. But even with this 1%, 99% of them would shape up if nobody put up with their shit. The problem with americans is that companies do put up with their shit because giving away a free slop of soy and corn slurry a few times a day is cheaper than fighting a frivolous lawsuit.

>>16555402
I'd never want to be Canadian. You're an inferior knockoff. You're the Oklahoma to our Texas. You have no original culture or anything else to differentiate you outside of being "not American."

>>16555373
I agree that the obsequiousness is not enjoyable unless you are a blue collar zogcog who can only demand respect at Applebee’s and nowhere else in his miserable existence. But their enthusiasm and attention to the diner/customer results in much better service, attention to detail and desire to make things right than in Europe or Canada.

Of course it is a cultural thing and Brits would not only dislike this but their attempt to emulate it would ultimately fail because they would be attempting something that is inherently foreign to them.

>>16555415
>be American
>get shot

>>16555102
tits or GTFO

>>16555422
>Be Canadian
>lol are you from America
>sperg out

>>16555411
Again, it's the same thing. If the customer wants to know what the waiter recommends, they'd ask. You're acting like not being a dickhead waiter is fucking rocket science.

>>16555415
>y-y-you’ll always be an American and I-I-I will never want to be y-y-you

Kek who gives a fuck? As long as American greed and the foreign brain drain keeps producing innovation I couldn’t give two shits about the US. I did my MSc in the US and while it had its upsides I couldn’t wait to get the fuck out.

Your culture consists of astroturfed-artificially cultivated-corporate franchised garbage with a contrived dualistic brand loyalty to make the population feel better than those who like Pepsi or the equivalent. You guys literally think the world can be divided into Fox News vs CNN.

The US is like an experiment for creating wealth and innovation for the elites and it is all built on a base of mindless consumers who are kept ignorant and angry at their neighbours. Your entire worldview consists of red herrings.

>>16554372
>used /trv/’s suggestions which despite the memes always turn out good
did you actually expect good food at brothels ?

>>16555438
American culture conquered the entire world. Canadian culture is being "not America." Stay mad, little snowcuck.

>>16555420
Reminds me of the anecdote of some American market chain, can't remember who, expanding into Euroland (germany, maybe?) and wanting to keep all the American policies and worker demands. Chief among them was that the cashier was required to smile and greet each customer and ask them how they were. This is apparently a really bizarre thing in yuroland and the customers freaked out and complained and the chain had to modify itself after only a few months due to the issues it was causing with the culture clash.

>>16554372
A Oh!! Yo a faggot. Capiche?

>>16555436
Yeah you actually have zog mental block and cant comprehend it like I said. Again good waiters will smell you out and make sure you get served your slop quickly so you don't make a shiftiest, manchild.

>>16555457
Its actually "capito"

>>16555462
Don't tell me howta talk american son.

>>16555458
A good waiter is one that brings me what I command them to without being an asshole. You faggots are the absolute dregs of society and it's hilarious that you think recommending something makes you some sort of pro LMFAO.

>Oh no the waiter turned around to answer a question and made me feel like I am not the Queen of facking England
Jeezus what a faggot you are

>>16555469
Lmaoing hard at the absolute level of burger here. That only meets the base requirements of a waiter. You've obviously never traveled or eaten at any good restaurants so save me your useless drivel.

>>16555481
OY MAITE I DID YA SEE WHEN I DIDN'T GROVEL AN' DANCE WHEN I SERVED TEH YANK I REALLY GOTTEM GOOD!

Finally this thread is getting good >>16555490

>>16555483
Shut the fuck up and serve me my food, bitch.

>>16555496
Not a waiter, you waste of air. Cant wait for your shithole to finally collapse on itself.

>>16555453
I think this was in Russia?

>>16555450
My life is great and that’s all I care about. I don’t care if Canadian fast food chains are internationally popular or people like Canadian media. That doesn’t effect my life at all and I don’t derive any nationalist pride over the global consumption or recognition of Canadian products.

What matters is that my family and I are prosperous, safe and healthy. And we are. I dislike our politicians and many things about my country’s politics but that isn’t the central point in my life. I life in a beautiful place, have a great career, do not have to be concerned about crime and my country is not at the verge of some lame contrived cold civil war.

My life is great while you are obsessed with your politics and how much other countries look up to or consume American things. What are you going to brag about, high crime, decreasing longevity, ridiculous obesity rate and rate of preventable disease/death and the like?

I lived in the USA so you can’t try to sell me the American Dream bullshit. I know how you guys live and think and I would never raise my family in the USA despite having the opportunity to go there for a lucrative position. Life is more than more money and cheaper consooming.

>>16555076
Wtf is your problem

>>16555505
>My life is great and that’s all I care about.
>proceeds to get defensive and write a book and your dumb life

LMAO

>>16555490
see its not that people do things to spite you. You are just pretentious and paranoid.Sound like my grandmathwr too.Post tits bitch

>>16555511
Take your meds schizo.

>>16554376
kek what a bunch of loons

>NOOOO FUCKING AMERICANS FUCK OFF GO AWAY
>Americans stop coming because Covid
>NOOOO MY TOURIST BASED BUSINESS IS FAILING WHAT THE FUCK AHHHHHH FUCKING AMERICANS STOP WATCHING YOUR TWITCH STREAMS AND NFL AND COME VISIT

>>16555576
AHHA MATE THA YANK I SERVED HAD TA WAIT TWO EXTRA MINUTES FOR HIS FOOD HEH HEH GOTTEM

>>16555583
oi oi oi you got a loisense for that comment mate?

>>16555576
Every single local in touristy towns want these restaurants to go up in flames. No one cares.

>>16555592
probably not the locals that rely on said restaurants to put a roof over their head. it's okay you don't understand that, business is more of an american thing

>>16555597
We do understand. These restaurants just suck ass and drive up the cost of eating out while lowering quality. If they go bankrupt they maybe, just maybe some that's less of a jew will move in and make decent food. The good restaurants got business even during lockdowns. This is natural selection.

>>16554372
Thought this was my ex from the thumbnail, turns out it's a sandwich.

>>16555597
I wonder if these Euros praising "superior European service" ever even worked in the industry? I respect the fucking dishwasher more than any of the worthless waiters.

>>16555592
The town would doe without the tourist traps you stupid fuck

>>16555504
Listen to this stupid Euro fuck talk about being a decent waiter like it's something you have to master. Wow you give people food that they paid for. Amazing.

I went to Rome as a kid (4 days) and this exactly what I remember. My dad and I ended up going to McDonald's a lot

>t. Argentinian

>>16555674
You don't appreciate superior European service, third worlder.

>>16554372
Of course. euros talking about having better food is a meme. They mostly eat shit and our perception of their weird food is a thing for a reason.

>>16555108
Oh shit we pissed off ahmed

>>16555687
It's better than shitty yank fake smiles and plastic flavoured food.

>>16554830
what is this image

>>16554398
But if you had a reservation he needed to mark you off as having arrived.

>>16554924
thanks for this i kek'ed so hard

I'm english and spent some time living in america. The service culture is really good. I mean, objectively good in a kind of meeting corporate goals way, but kind of plastic and off putting in some cases. It is like somebody is stood behind them pinching the fat on their upper arm and hissing in their ear "if you don't say HI HOW ARE YOU DOING TODAY! in a convincing tone I'll twist this bit of fucking fat HARDER I swear to god bitch" ... Like a reverse gom jabbar to ensure people weren't real humans. If I was in a great mood then everything when great, all the hi how are you today! was met with an equally enthusiastic "great! I'm wonderful thanks ... how about yourself? You seem extremely happy for 7am!" I even tolerated the constant "oh my god you are from England? Do you know Jack? He is from ... Londonshire I think!". When I was in a more normal mood or a bad mood it was a rank and artificial experience that got on my fucking tits. I started answering with the most ridiculous answers. "I'm terrible, my dog just died ... Yes I am here on business, I'm a paedophile thanks for asking, yes I think it means something different here, in Scotlandham we have to have medical training for it".

Also overall it was a lot like hanging out with over enthusiastic children. Nobody had a subtle sense of humour, nobody got irony, everything was taken at face value. I enjoyed it to be fair because it was like talking to GTA npcs.

>How you doing?
>WONDERFUL! My cat just died ...
>My medication wore off again!
>Did you see the new church?
>They are good people .. good people ...
>HEY about that fishing hole!
>Hahaha Jerry is losing his hair
>Come by sometime, my wife will whip up a pie!

>>16555102
I read your blogpost and I regret it

>>16555373
I hate that shit too. It's built into our corporate culture as well, you can't escape it by getting an office job

>>16555076
I have never read a gayest post before.
kys.

>>16555904
Nice blog you dumb faggot.

Not going to read this whole thread but the simple foods in italy are amazing. Other foods are hit and miss.
Also when there is pizza, it is nearly always horrible . its just not their thing.

>>16555076
The soyface meme is fucking retarded but it's needed here.

>>16555969
>Not going to read this whole thread
Pic related sums it up.

>>16555656
Burger here, if you can't tell the difference between a good waiter and a bad waiter, you've never eaten anywhere fancier than a red lobster

>>16555102
I read your blogpost and I am glad.

>>16555076
jesus christ i hope this ironic

>>16555904
people were just happy and jovial because they don't live in england and you're too dense to get that

>>16554372
I went to Italy a few years ago and the grocery stores were so shitty. First of all you had to look really hard to find bottled water that wasn't carbonated. They really love their fizzy water. First night there I got a pork chop and broccoli because everything else was so expensive. A small piece of mystery beef was like 20 Euro - wtf? So the next day I went to a store in a completely different place and was going to haul back my groceries, but same thing. Then the next 3 cities I went to had the same thing. I ate pork chops with broccoli every night because even fish or chicken was outrageously expensive. Now it makes sense why Europoors love loading up on carbs, they can't afford meat.

>>16554372
>You can have a great 3-course, steak and lobster meal with that, in the centre of London.

No you can't, a fucking pork pie is about £20

>>16555904
Our service industry is set up to be overly polite. I personally prefer it. I just want a smiling face to do what I ask and then I tip well and leave. I dont give a shit if a waiter doesnt pick up on the nuances of my subtle sarcasm

>>16555102
Clearly your mother in law is a petty and shallow person. To be angry that someone does something better than you do is a sign of a horrible person.
You understand that your wife will become her right?
Looks to me like she will have the last laugh here

>>16555450
>American culture conquered the entire world

What language are you writing in?

>>16556176
>"Did u have a dna test?"
>"don't need it. his ball sack is so dark"
kek

>>16556180

>>16556176
*

>>16556213
fucking meant for >>16556180

>>16554376
That's psychotic, what did they really think a foreigner would instinctually know how to present something?

when I was in italy we had some amazing meals that were planned, my parents picked them out beforehand and we had a great experience. The impromptu meals were hit or miss, we had some terrible times in tourist traps but also stumbled upon a couple small mom and pop places that were amazing. the main strip in sorrento was filled with fish n chips and brit shit it was kind of disgusting. the brits in our hotel were far worse than any Italians on our trip

>>16554374
>Is French food as big of a meme? I must know.
Nah, try to travel around the country, French food is so good because of all the regional dishes, sticking to Paris is a retarded idea.

Also the French are far less insufferable niggers when it comes to original recipes, if you try to experiment with their recipes, they'll say your dish is trash, but they won't make a scene over it and still let you eat it, while Italians would turn into feral niggers ready to stab you in the back if you take a bite.

>>16556248
Italians aren't called the niggers of Europe for no reason, anon.

>>16556215
Cope. The colonies are full of illiterate savages. This is news?

>>16555505
>I think this was in Russia?
Yes, the first ever McDonald's on the Red Square, the cashiers were trained by US corpo sent in Moscow. The customers complained because they believed the cashiers were making fun of them by smiling at them for no apparent reason.

As a general rule, never smile at anyone for no reason in Russia, on the street it's usually interpreted as a sign you're drunk/drugged, mentally ill or homosexual, the latter could earn you a punch in the face.

>>16554372
>>16554374
You must have been eating in shitty restraunts because i had plenty of very tasty food there. Don't be a fatass, you dont need to order a thing from every course, like who the fuck can eat that much? Also I think you must have been eating in tourist areas, because when I have eaten meals out there, it costs like £30 maximum for me and my partner, usually its way cheaper.
Breakfast in most countries is shit, I only had good breakfasts in NZ, france, america and the UK.
I think the italians just really hate anyone who is not italian, hence the bad service.

>>16556123
yeah the grocery stores are really hit or miss. they are either hideously overpriced with basically fuck all, or they have tons of fantastic stuff at a decent price. Also you can steal loads of food, they dont have security guards at most places so even if you set the bleeper off, nobody stops you. I stole about 500 euros worth of meat while i was there.

>>16555904
Keking real hard at the brit banter lmao you're okay rosbeef I forgive you for being fags

>>16554830
Wait a minute, I recognize that helmet!

>>16556299
They won't say its trash. They'll say "It's not real X Dish" and that would be right. They'll still eat it eagerly.

if you only find bad and overpriced restaurants im sory youre just retarded op

they didn't magically disappear, you just didn't find them. stupid, stupid, stupid.

you shoiuld feel embarassed about this but you whine about it to /ck/ instead i am confused. youre just another snooty arrogant stupid tourist

you might need to kill yourself

>>16556339
I think this is true for all slavic countries. I fucking hate it when people smile at me, now I owe you a smile back or you'll be offended. No, fuck you, you don't get to impose your easily amused gesticulation on me. Fuck off and don't smile at strangers. I'm also slavic, obviously.

>>16555112
>The no cream in carbo is so fucking funny to me because its so obviously fucking better with crème and that really shows the just keep doing it for no other fucking reason than following their recipe. Eat cock guido.
Probably the worst take in this thread desu. I can pretty much guarantee you've never had actual carbonara cooked properly with guanciale and real, aged non-pre-grated pecorino.

>>16556558
I did and actually made some recently. Its still better with cream you just add less when the cheese is quality. But then again tis not real carbo then.
Also anyone who eats any Italian dish with any regularity will realize quick that its unironically cheaper to buy a wedge of cheese instead of buying pre-grated and I'm not retarded so I do.

Food in China was still relatively good

>>16555904
>Nobody had a subtle sense of humour
Subtle humor is about as interesting as your bland meat pies

>>16556383
kek I knew it thanks anon that was killing me

>>16556607
You know, you're setting up for some pasta here.

>>16554372
Europeans just tend to be smelly assholes who literally do not know how to serve or wait on someone, America and Asian countries are the only actual countries that know how to deliver a worthy restaurant experience.

>>16555318
>look at momentary transactions as almost holy
https://youtu.be/tMBZtVl3FSw?t=76
kek

>>16556069
I was implying that being a waiter is a job that any retard can do. The European was acting like providing decent service is something that you can only find in Europe which is beyond delusional.

>>16556758
Oh, and if you're a waiter, you're human garbage and the entire kitchen hates and mocks you.

>>16555102
this reminds me of that copypasta about a black man walking into a small white only village and how no man could compete with him

>>16555378
Very true. I can tell a canadian in business because they act like a complete arrogant asshole so in the end they get a shit deal lol.

>>16555405
He has a camera on them you fucking retard, the police will arrest you over twitter comments no shit they're on their best behavior

>>16554372
I've never been to Italy. But being a white dude in Japan and Thailand I have never seen so many people excited that I enjoy their food. Just knowing how to say "that was delicious" in their language and the 50 year woman has a lapse of reverse menopause. They just need a snap back to reality. Just don't fucking eat at place that doesn't respect you eating their food.

>>16557180
LMFAO Europeans have to be under risk of arrest in order to act like decent human beings.

>>16557360
Whoa there buddy, we BREXIT
We're no longer European

>under risk of arrest in order to act like decent human beings.
You aren't entitled to being treated like a decent human being when you're a cunt mate

>>16557379
The the rate my takeaway guy is someone you consider a cunt? He seems pleasant to me. Your country sounds like a dystopian shithole.

>>16557385
He's on camera too and desperately trying to get back into the youtube algorithm
>Your country sounds like a dystopian shithole.
Because it is

>>16557398
He seems like he's just being himself. If people would treat him badly as soon as the camera turns off that's pretty shitty. I'm not even trying to troll but I'm glad I don't live there.

>>16556359
>Also you can steal loads of food, they dont have security guards at most places so even if you set the bleeper off, nobody stops you. I stole about 500 euros worth of meat while i was there.

>>16554921
That is the case pretty much everywhere . Dumbasses who spend a weekend at a place, go to the closes food joint and then complain are the the fucking worst

>>16555297
>I’m surprised my wife escaped from that house without being overweight.
Well the constant diarrhea probably helped

>>16554475
>Paris syndrome is due to parisians not liking tourists
>it has nothing to do with Paris being genuinely one of the most unpleasant places in Europe for the last thirty years

>italy
I speak as an Italian.
Italian restaurants are disgusting. The cooks spit and cough on the food and then serve it to the customers. Many times they only reheat frozen pizzas and claim to be original pizzas. The tomato sauces are rotten and sour. The fish they serve are often smelly and long expired.
And to eat all their crap they even ask for a green pass.
Appeal to foreign tourists, do NOT come to Italy.

>>16556607
What I remember as Italy food growing up as a young kid in Bologna

>stuffed mice
>maggot cheese
>squid ink noodles
>toasted bread with cow spleen
>unidentifed pig parts in gelatin
>chocolate flavored pig blood
>one time, lamb brains

Americans have no idea how bad it really is. No one in Italy knows what the fuck fettuccini alfredo is or spaghetti and meatballs. Italian food is disgusting. Literally the worst parts to eat of any animal. Makes sense because wops are the race of humans closest to animals. They make disgusting noises when they eat, slurp everything, men in the streets wave their fucking hands in dumb gestures in front of their sweaty faces while laughing and chewing with their mouths full of food. Like what kind of idiot decided that hardtack would be the ideal breakfast. Starving Nigerians who eat grass have a better diet than the average italian.

>>16558520
What I remember as African food growing up as a young kid in Nigeria.

>


Chinese have no idea how bad it really is.

>>16555076
you type like a woman and deserve to be ridiculed

>>16556176
>>16556186
she doesn't deny cheating on him though.

>>16558520
lamb brain is delicious wtf you on about

>>16555097
>>16555106
why the fuck would you eat at a restaurant at any time other than lunch and dinner retarded mongrels. some of the critiques made ITT are valid but some others like these are absolute nonsense.
>>16558404
this is obviously not the case for the average italian restaurant, this place where you worked (?) needs to be closed by Guardia di Finanza asap. i would unironically snitch on them if i were you.

Meh, I lived there for 3 years and never had a problem with the food. I ate at pizzeria and trattoria, though, and not in the tourist areas. Most of the food they prepared for you was made from scratch and pretty damn good. Their steaks were ass though, and that's largely because of the way they butchered the cut.

The service just takes getting used to due to the fact they have a much lazier way of doing things than a lot of people are used to...

>>16556558
>>16556577
You don't add cream: you add another eggwhite to make it creamier. Simple as.

>>16554372
>60€ per person
>I made good effort to keep away from tourist areas
doesn't add, you can afford a high end restaurant for that, or a shit touristic one
you think we are millionaires or something? i never spend more than 20€ when i go out to eat

>>16555373
Pretty much, people dont expect overly flattering service personnel, I dont, it's fine if they are attentive and do the basics right, I mean nobody likes to be treated like a pest, but in the US this kind of thing also completely falls apart because being a service wagie is getting worse every single day. But the over the top corporate bullshit niceities are horrible, it's like eating iced cake that consists of 90% sugar, you get sick from the first bite.

>>16555076
hope this is bait

>>16558520
classic

>>16555112
>I like cheap replacements because I can swhip eggs proprely.
>Also it's DIFFERENT!
Spotted the yuppie

>>16558520
Well, aren't you a precious little one. Bet you like Kraft singles in your overcooked pasta and dino nuggies.

>>16558864
Find me a single restaurant menu with antipasto, primo, secondo and dolce (no drinks included) all under 25 euro and i will post sharpie in pooper with timestamp on /b/

>>16558811
surely you mean egg yolk?

Went there as a kid and wasn't impressed but then again it was Rome. Athens though had some real good food. Still think of this amazing huge lamb leg I had there.

>>16558900
you can still take 3 or 4 dolci outside of that and still be below 25
waiting for sharpie in pooper, now going to eat so imma check later mkay

>>16554398
This happened at a McDonalds btw, not sure if that matters.

>>16558900
to add to that, for a bit more than your average expense, so 85€ in this case, you could dine at a literal michelin star restaurant

>>16558900
another michelin star, for 75€ you can try 4 dishes

>>16555363
>>Giving the customer what they ask for is deemed more important than giving the customer what they want
>That's the same thing you moron.
clearly you've never worked a customer-facing job

>>16559079
this
>i need the best tool for tree cutting in my garden, so i'd like you to give me asap your best sanding tool and around 40m of electric cables, and don't forget a few plastic sheets to cover the garden with!
if client doesn't ask you for suggestion you just comply

>>16558900
> find me a 4 courses meal under 25 euro
You must be clinically retarded

>>16554374
>“The food in Italy is so good” is a meme parroted by YouTube faggot vloggers
export and number of italians restaurants are surely because vloggers. You may have shit tastebud desu

> Every place serves only cacio e pepe, gricia and carbonara
That's not remotely true. Pretty much any roman reastaurant serves also artichockes, cow tails, tripe, lamb, codfish.

> ALL the same give or take one ingredient or two
not true

>Hotel breakfast review
This made me chuckle. I forcing myself to believe you were not serious

> Only resorted to that since food places were closed between 3-7pm.
TRy doing something other than eat fatso

>>16558900
I can fit 8 sharpies in my ass. Gonna have to do better

>>16554896
I hate ESLniggers so much

>>16559248
whitout non english speaking countries this board would be even more irrelevant

>>16556213
kek based
English is our language now, britboy

>>16558520
Disgusting spaghetti niggers

>>16556176
why isnt DNA test mandatory when a baby is born?
it would solve a lot of problems.

>>16559332
>it would solve a lot of problems.
False , it would lead to the end of civilization as we know it .
Once humanity figures out that women are all just basically vapid whores, no one will want to get married

>>16554398
>I think that a lot of these restaurants are family owned and dependent upon tourist trade not repeat business and local reputation. I also think that a lot of these families have a half retarded brother, son, son in law or brother in law who needs a job and he ends up being a miserable waiter from age 15 to 55.

So fucking true, I worked at a Greek place back as a highschooler and the waiters were all just miserable family members of the boss who looked like they had no life prospects and were forced into dependency to their above room temerature IQ relatives.

Also the entire kitchen was staffed with Bulgars which is kinda funny. They all smoked and some even drank on the job

>>16554376
Why the fuck are euros like this

>>16558811
>Eggwhite Carbonara

>>16559374
Because they cannot tolerate independent thought.
The idea that someone would stray from traditional """""""authentic"""""" norms just fills them with rage.
This is why they hate that americans now make better cheese and beer than they do.
They are stuck in the past and not only do they not want to move forward, they dont want anyone else to either.

>>16558907
No, another egg yolk, so the white:yolk ratio is 4:3 or even 3:2. But you can experiment a bit, if you find that you like more yolk, so be it. As long as you don't add cream, we're good.

>>16558520
Lamb brains aren't that bad, cmon

>>16555159
Thanks for the advice, I always found the food (except for the pâtisserie ofc) mediocre

>>16559390
That's a really good coping narrative

>>16558520
lul

Lmao. Reminds me of my Europe trip from 2014.

Yes. Italy has rather mediocre food and is EXTREMELY overrated. There's a reason why most Italians you meet want to get the fuck out or go nuts over the most mundane of indian and cantonese food, like with those shitty international joints.

FYI, France is MUCH better. Better food, unironically friendlier people, streets don't smell like piss, and actual good wine.

>>16554376
based granpa, serve your dog food to (You), not to humans

>>16554374
you're welcome in france anytime
italians are eternally seething over our food being 10x better while not being the most annoying people on the planet. we hate italians so fucking much

>>16559455
DUDE BUTTER LMAO

>>16554883
What a retarded faggot. Kill yourself

lol extra butthurt ameritourist

>>16559413
That's normal. Most people who actually had good food will be able to tell something's off with these restaurants. Paris blows BTW. Visit once but don't think its exceptional or something. Its gypsy central. Fuck em.

>>16559455
Lmao

>>16559461
Butt blasted guido

>>16558632
3-7pm is prime dinner hours in the civilized world you retarddd wop.

>>16559569
lmao nooooo you didnt eat for 3h sugar levels running low! need corn syrup now or angry!

>>16555106
>Can you believe these scum claim to be ancestors of the Romans?
Do Americans really believe Italians claim to be descendants of the Romans?

>>16559588
As an American I don't really give a shit about the Italians or if they are nuked off the face of the earth.

Spain still loves you, italy.

>>16559425
I assume you have a more accurate one?

>>16559634
Have culture and don't waste life pursuing a kaleidoscope of novelties.

>>16559625
That's food.

>>16555904
>Londonshire
>Scotlandham
High quality blog

>>16559676
Food in spain usually doesn't bother to look as "pretty" as in France or Italy. It's sort of crude but I think it's nice.

>>16559706
Spaniards do not care about presentation, I thought it was funny how many meals I had that were entirely beige. Unironically my favorite Spanish dish is huevos rotos partly because it looked better and mostly because I'm a fat burger

>>16559706
Delicious, my favourite way of making beans.

>>16559752
Mine too, anon.

>>16559738
Some look alright.

>>16559569
>3pm is dinner time
>im the retarded one somehow
aight

>>16557900
>it has nothing to do with Paris being genuinely one of the most unpleasant places in Europe for the last thirty years
This surely has absolutely nothing to do with the never-ending droves of idiot Americans, retarded Asians and disgusting Indians coming over and acting like Paris is their personal theme park.

>>16559767
Oh yeah it has nothing to do with the amount of darkies pissing and shitting in the streets, as well as your public beheadings. Sure thing Pierre. Or is it Mohammed?

>>16559795
>for the last 30 years
>brings up beheadings
Sorry Cletus, try again.

>>16559802
I'm a Euro you dumb fucking monkey. Do you suck niggers off for a living? I bet you do, you french subhuman piece of shit, Hitler should have decimated your population dumb frog rapist

>>16559831
>I'm a Euro
And yet your stupidity makes you seem American, curious!

>>16559831
Balkans and germs are not human

>>16559767
I'm French and you know this is bull. Paris is shit because of gypsies fucking migrants that settle in. You fucking know it.

>>16559763
Looks like there's some genuine pieces of mystery meat in this pan

>>16559344
No, we'd just insist on white sharia and marry under those conditions

>As an American

>>16559847
He doesn't because he is obviously a nigger from some forner french colony

>>16559855
100% american post

>>16559863
As an America, get nuked to death so I can laugh.

>>16555106
>Implying the Roman weren't big otium enjoyers
I swear people have such a gay capeshit like view on romans

>>16559855
confused by the nonburger shape?

>>16559634
you suck at cooking

>>16554374
>3-star or 4-star hotel, didn’t matter, breakfast was always crap:
>Bread, jam in plastic containers airline-style, nutella
>Croissants (just crescent shaped bread, no butter, no flaky, no crisp)
>Sliced supermarket cheese, ham, only boiled egg.
>Cereal dispenser, boxed juice, long shelf-life milk

Yes, that's hotel food, everywhere in the world.

>>16559864
If you think Africans from former colonies are anything like American mutts you're dead wrong. I would kill a hundred American niggers to save a single French black

>>16559855
>Rabbit is mistery meat

>>16559767
Paris is a third world shithole and it has nothing to do with the tourists you mentionned
>t. Lived 15 years in Paris and left this year

>>16559958
Yeah what's worse is that the gypsies and other undesirables are only the very top of the shitberg. If you enjoy living in Paris you have to be mentally ill.

>>16555216
This is the only K&P sketch I've seen that made me laugh. Very good.

>>16555674
Surprising to me, considering the influence of Italy on Argentina. Are you from the provinces, or somewhere with heavy Italian ancestry?

>>16555904
Yeah that's pretty much how it is. But my experiences outside of the US have generally shown me that I'd rather have helpful, friendly employees than wasting a bunch of time trying to sort things out at a business for myself, because the employees stand around picking their own asses. Why are they even being paid to be there if I have to do it all?
Sure, people don't react to sarcasm, but I take that as a result of most people being of average intelligence. The employees are in a store for hours every day, with most interactions being superficial, and then one of every hundred someone makes a witty or subtle comment. Would you be sure you heard the customer right? Is it worth responding if you misinterpreted their comment as sarcasm when they were being truthful, potentially triggering a shitstorm? I don't blame them if comments sail past them. I'd be impressed though, if this situation is different in the UK (I've never been).

>>16556607
I think the food in China was the best food I've ever had in my life. It held true in every part I went to, and it was cheap as well. I ate a lot at hole in the wall places, and I was impressed that you could visit 8 different places and order something with the same name and six ingredients, and be served 8 different meals - each absolutely delicious. It's too bad everything else about that country is abysmal.

>>16559999
>those digits

>>16559999
Witnessing truth post.
Digits know all.

>>16559999
I came from >>>/g/
I heard there were repeating digits in this thread.
They're beautiful.

>>16556758
You were stating that being a good waiter means slavishly following orders. If the fish sucks that day, who cares if the customer ordered fish? It's not your job, the customer is always right, isn't that your position?

Like I said you've never been to a nice restaurant. It's very obvious.
>>16556774
I work in tech, I am well aware that I am human garbage. At least waiters don't actively make the world worse. But this job pays pretty well so I can live with that.

>>16559935
>I would kill 100 niggers to save a single nigger
So would anyone else with a brain. Even settling for killing 1 nigger to save a nigger is still a net positive because fewer overall niggers.

>>16561102
LMAO edgy have you heard of this cartoon called South Park? That's edgy too, it's so shocking sometimes!

>>16556248
It may have been they were upset that their "culture" was dying by being americanized or whatever

>>16560722
And your pilgrimage is recognized. Look upon thine own dubs.

>>16554374
I had plenty of good meals in Italy. The best items were simple.

The worst things I had
>Florentine steak
Was shit, honestly. Think it was a rib eye but it tasted like they burnt the shit out of all the olive oil on the outside and the inside was almost a blue rare even though I ordered medium
>seafood risotto and stuffed sardines in Cinque Terre.
I attribute this to the tourist location. Even though it’s literally a chain of islands the seafood wasn’t fresh and just overall very greasy and meh.
>the pizza
Honestly I’ve had better in the states

That’s literally all I can think of that was meh.
>gelato amazing
>wild boar ragout with fresh linguine
>burrata with pumpkin purée and fresh black truffles
>cod with romanesco sauce
>amatriciana
>cacio e Pepe
>panini I had with some proscuitto, cacio Bono, arugula, roasted Calabrian chili’s on straciatta bread

>>16559674
Yeah your ancient culture is over rated. I prefer to live in the present and try new things and new ideas.
You are stuck in the past

>>16559390
>'Murican
>independent thought
At least try to make your bait believable

>>16559374
>Why the fuck are euros like this
its just Italians, they're supremely autistic about their combination of tomato, carbs and cheese for their babby palate

>>16562138
Americans are far more diverse of opinion than any other country. We have so many cultures here and so many political groups that , yes, we are far more independent in thinking here

>>16555076
>In a local restaurant in Italy, service varies based on whether the help even likes you. Fact, that's Italy. Were you wearing a blazer? Did you show personal good taste in fashion, footwear, leathers, and clean cut grooming, and practice your culturally polite etiquette and manners? Italians don't look shabby when they go out on the town for dinner.
>Defending this

>>16562238
Yes and all of those different opinions are degenerate.
>Wow we give teenage children HRT so diverse of thought!

>>16554372
Bet OP was high off his ass when he wrote this and doesn't even own a passport and lives in a flyover state

>>16556339
Making eye contact with a stranger is weird here too.

>>16554446
ops not doing it for the likes, he's doing it for you anon
be grateful

>>16554974
Does anywhere in Europe have actually good cuisine?

>>16554372
>>16554374
Peak Amerisòy posts.

>>16554376
wifes father is italian and cooks great and laughs at this sort of idiocy, told me once its part of why he left his shithole country.

>>16554475
>Paris Syndrome
this is when asians go to france and find africa.

>>16555505
>lived in the USA
Ca/NY are not America.

The best food I had in Italy was either in the hotel or street food, everything else was mediocre and forgettable.

>>16554372
I feel like restaurants are dissapointing to eat at, i need to learn to cook myself so i can become really really good

>>16554372
Had a great experience with food in Sicily and Florence. Tasted great, well portioned, and well priced. Service at in-door restaurants was fine, just had to flag down waiters instead of expecting them to read your mind. Service at out-door restaurants or lunch spots was sub-par, but not a deal breaker.

This threads has finally convinced me that americans are mentally ill subhumans that don't belong in civilized society.
Russbros and Chinabros please fill every inch of that cursed continent with a shower of nukes

>>16563023
>Russia bros
Yes.
>China "bros"
>Civilized

>>16563037
Compared to Americans, yeah

>>16559455
>French
>not being the most annoying people on the planet

>>16554372

robert?

>>16554372
Damn I’d love to cum in that sandwich

>>16555076
you are so fucking autistic

>>16559706
Nice, looks good.

I'm a spaniard and my gf cooks every day and you guys are right about presentation not being so important. The quality and taste is always more important.

Anyway, I've been to Italy and although I agree with most of OP; there are good restaurants and dishes in Italy. Some of them excellent in my experience.

>>16563143
French people hate tourists. Get on their good side and you'll have a great time. Americans I found love tourists.

>>16554372
>who would often smoke while working.
And this is how everyone knows you're full of shit.

>>16563194
As a Spaniard I've never had the chance to be in Italy and have stuff that isn't either sloppa pasta for tourist groups (i was there on a highschool trip back then) or top notch shit in expensive restaurants (with my parents).

I get the feeling that it would be more expensive on average and that there's a wider rift that separates fine and cheap dining than in Spain.

>>16563254
It's only a 20 minute walk from the tourist hubs to suburbia.

>>16563200
not the chinese

I had good food outside of rome

Rome was kinda shit, :/ but the mcdonalds served beer which is based

>>16563254
Tbh i found spanish food sort of lackluster. Was in Alicante for a month and the best things I had were obviously jamon Iberico and some squid grilled with garlic. Paella was okay.

What did I do wrong

>>16563300
Spanish food varies extremely throughout the regions. Coincidentially, i am myself from Alicante, but from the southmost region where food is a bit different since it relies more on vegetables, and I have not really had much contact with Alicante itself.

Rice is tricky, and it's very easy to get bad paella in restaurants, but maybe you just didn't enjoy it as much. It's a really humble dish in the end. In any case, if typical shared dishes of seafood and other stuff didn't seduce you, you might want to try Andalucia or the northern regions.

I think food in my hometown is pretty alright. We're really into semicured fish and fresh artichokes. And lots of hearty vegetable stews.

>>16563289
Chinese tourists do a different kind of fast food tourism. They also follow very specific programs so they don't actually mingle and have a chance to annoy locals. Also when they travel they bring a shitton of money.

>>16563332
>Coincidentially, i am myself from Alicante

>>16563332
Based. Thanks.

I turned into an alcoholic in Spain lol. I drank every night in the Barrio. Good memories and great people.

>>16563147
>Italian take-away
Someone already did anon

>>16563373
I think this is the case with many foreigners. Drinking in bars is very cheap and we're very laid back about it.

I think the difference is that drinking a beer every day is kind of okay but getting officially shitfaced is generally frowned upon unless you're 20 somethings and you're partying.

I think getting black out drunk during the weekends is more the norm in the north of europe.

My mother in law asked my girlfriend how come she didn't become an alcoholic in Spain, to my appallment, since they were drinking wine, beer and vodka with little rest all through the week we were there (I guess since they were celebrating we were there with them).

>>16563460
Yeah basically just dont drink so much. I'd say we drink often in Spain, just not as much as I've seen foreigners do when they visit. Just fucking slow down and have a caña instead of a whole fucking pint.

>going to major cities expecting them to cater to your fat fuck Britbong culinary standards
>going to major trattorias in those cities
Should've gone to the countryside retard. But even then the food I had in Rome 2 years ago was great so you probably picked all the tourist trap spots like a retard.

>>16559924
Breakfast in a 4-star in Cyprus (Casale panayiotis):
>4 types of eggs
>fresh nut butters
>freshly cut fruit
>hummus
>smoked salmon
>good pastries
>omellete man
>pancakes
>honey comb
>avocado
>grilled halloumi
>high quality local cured meats

3-star in Jordan
>hummus
>muttaball
>mint lemonade
>local cheeses
>sugar preserved spreads
>lemon paste (delicious)
>3 types of egg

Fuck you

>>16562674
>experimenting with different ingredients is the same as cutting a child's dick off

this is what we call autistic rage

>>16554372
>The servers seemed to hate their lives and their jobs with a passion.
No, you don't quite get it.
ALL servers hate their lives. The difference is in America we train them to act and fire ones who can't.

>>16563637
In America, being a bartender or a waiter in a nice place can mean 500 bucks a night or even more.
It's not a bad gig if you are paid well

>>16559625
>those breads

>>16563736
>nitpicking what looks like a good feast with friends, wine and beer.

>>16561112
Dilate you dirty fucking tranny. This max be a cooking board, but people who season their meals with estrogen aren't welcome here.