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Idk but I bought this a while ago and now it's all I drink for rye

>>16457828
i'm drinking wild turkey 100, i try to taste it as little as possible.

>>16457828
Anyone ever had kavalan? I got a nice bottle from them and it's really good.

>>16458086
which one? I've had the vinho barrique and the port cask, both were very good but it's pricey

>>16458086
I personally find Kavalan to be mediocre but friends with better pallets than I enjoy it so anyway there's no point to my comment

>>16458166
The fino sherry. And a cheaper one i forget the name of. The fino really surprised me at just how good it was.

>>16457828
>I picked up these four bottles today, which should I open?
All of them

Do a tasting and compare their flavor profiles and rank what you like best. Post ranking here so we can judge you.

>>16458176
Not OP, but this is a good idea. I will do a few of these types of thread.

Your liquor store simply had ECBP and Larceny Barrel Proof? I've never actually seen them on the shelf here.

>>16457828
>I picked up these four bottles today, which should I open?
any one you want, they taste the same.
>ackschuallllyyyyy there are subtle notes that differ!!!
whatever. if 99.9% of the flavor is the same and 0.01% is the subtle note of difference, it literally doesn't matter.
>heh, you must have never drank whisky in your life zoom zoom
guarantee that I've drank more whisky in my life than everyone ITT combined.

>>16458260
>rye and bourbon are the same bro
you're retarded and trying too hard

>>16458260
Is this cope for only being able to afford ancient age?

>>16458250
>ECBP
Is it really that rare though?
Even in Euroland Amazon has it available for 65€ and that inludes the orange man bad whiskey tariff and 19% VAT

>>16458276
also isnt Larceny wheated/er?

>>16458336
yes because US cant buy liquor from amazon and because we have other "problems"
>https://youtu.be/I7fCXTCMXJE
dont the EU water down imported bourbon as well?

>>16458360
>dont the EU water down imported bourbon as well?
Most retarded shit I've read today,

>>16458360
>yes because US cant buy liquor from amazon and because we have other "problems"
topkek that’s fucked up, are there really no online stores?
>watered down bourbon
That’s only a thing for the cheap mass market stuff because people prefer 40% that they are used to from scotch
But even for those you can still get the us version since alcohol is a free market over here and you can buy, import and sell whatever you want as long as you pay your goyim taxes

>>16458171
>Pallets

Jesus Christ, when will you fags learn...

>>16458397
there are others for sure, but not one giant generic one for everybody like amazon. 2bh its probably better that way.because no doubt if it were like that stores selves would only ever have bottom shelf shit due to the demand. i mean hell, the fact the there are already lotterys for everyday shit like in OPs pic is downright infuriating. it would be nice to at least have confidence when ordering bottles online this day and age, but I cant trust with absolute certainty that if I order a $300 bottle it will be in my possession, safe and sound within a week, because of all the hold over anti interstate commerce laws from prohibition, even in the states that you dont have to use a loophole or legal grey area manipulation to start the procees.

you guys still sperging out over whisky? most people moved on and the hype has been dead since last winter.

>pic related
will it still taste like wishky dic? I had the Glenmorangie 10 original and it tasted like wishky dic, I could swallow it like it was water but I was hoping there'd be a sweet-ish taste somwhere, but it wasn't there at all.

Where my Mellow Corn boys at?

>>16458429
>He doesn't age his whiskey in barrels made out of pallets

It's far too hot to be drinking 'skey. Also, it's far too expensive.

Comparing similar price rum and whisky, rum offers much better value for money right now.

>>16457828
how do you afford 4 bottles of whiskey at the same time

Test

>>16457828
I’m not had any of these but you might wanna mix them with a little water

Bought picrelated last night, will try it tonight. What am I in for?

>>16459318
burnt orange peel, start-to-finish. It makes great cocktails but it didn't deserve whiskey of the year imo

Do whisk(e)y spergs even dilute their whisky?

>>16459318
u ready to get fucking wasted bruhhhhhh? know what im saying? straight wasted broooooooo that shit will get u slumped and feeling good bro shits fireeeeeeeee. straight whiskey style

>>16459318
Fucking garbage. Dickel is a meme, nothing more.

The reason they have a zillion barrels aged to the limit is because no one wants to drink this shit.

>>16459870
I will for anything over 100 proof after a few sips neat first. Drinking on 120+ proof stuff for 30 mins to an hour will nuke your palate in the event you wanna try something else later in the night.

>>16459087
I tried but the whisky keeps leaking out.

>>16458175
Well yeah the fino cask is ~350 dollars, some of the other casks push 500, they better be fucking good

>>16459123
I have a job that pays me more money than I can spend

>>16459896
It’s nice to know how your whisky actually tastes at the beginning. I’ve found that Bells and Aberlour taste identically like alcohol until you dilute them. When you dilute them, you discover that Bells is absolute shite and Aberlour is delicious.

>>16457828
Straight rye with stones or neat. Go for at least 2 fingers to start.

>>16460005
Stones are bad for whiskey.

>>16460031
Some people can't handle them at room temp and ice is even worse. Don't shoot the messenger though, if it's not good enough to drink neat it's better off mixed with something.

>>16460064
Every whiskey is improved with a small amount of water.

>>16460073
"Improved" is completely subjective and I do not agree.

>>16460089
Of course it is and of course you are entitled to do so.

>>16460097
Well argued. Shall we toast?

>>16458250
I spend a lot at my local liquor store so they'll set aside allocated stuff for me. As long as it's not buffalo trace memes, I can get just about anything

>>16458176
Will do, might take me a bit.

>>16459111
any rums u recommended to an anon who barely drinks? i have barrets so i cannot drink often, next to never. but because of that i prefer good stuff

>>16460118
everclear pussy

>>16460104
Sure!

>>16460129
> A tumbler at 1:45pm while I'm at "work"
God bless the coof.

>>16459886
I hope you're not right about that cause I just bought a 9 year store pick, it can't be that bad

>>16460118
Something from the Foursquare Exceptional Cask selection. I'm currently drinking Segacity and its exceptional.

If you prefer spiced rum, then Abelforths Rumbullion. Standard version is more like a liqueur and Navy Strength has a bit more punch.

>>16460150
God bless the coof! It’s been a good year.

>>16459082
right here brother
bought the last 6 bottles at my local store for less than the price of a new video game

>>16460320
i haven't bought a video game since 1999, how are prices now?

>>16460369
$60-70, so with inflation factored in, probably cheaper than in 1999.

>>16460369
>since 1999
You've missed almost nothing

>>16459111
Based rumfag
>>16460118
Bacardi 8 year. No the 10 isn't better.

>>16457828
>no Knob Creek
Disappointed

>>16460183
>If you prefer spiced rum, then Abelforths Rumbullion. Standard version is more like a liqueur and Navy Strength has a bit more punch.
That's my problem with most spiced rums, they're almost always syrupy, which is annoying.

>>16458176
>>16458243
>>16459286
>>16460005
Here you go boys
Henry McKenna 10 Year Single Barrel BiB
Price: $44.99 USD
Specs: 50% abv, 78% corn, 12% malted barley, 10% Rye, KSBW
Barrel 10495, Barreled 4/19/2011
Color: Browned butter
Nose: Sweet spices lead, cinnamon, nutmeg, vanilla, into buttery pastry, dried oranges, and honey. Rye pepper just barely present on the very end. Yep, it’s bourbon.
Palate: Soft and sweet at first, almost cakey, big kick of rye pepper right in the middle, followed again by orange peel and honey. Very consistent, little-to-no presence of youthful burn, but surprisingly spicy considering the mashbill. A drop of water amps up the honey and pastry into fried doughnuts and maple syrup, but the spice doesn’t go anywhere
Conclusion: This is a very well-made bourbon—it leans sweet and fresh rather than woody or fruity, which is not usually my style, but has proper balance and length, and never feels cloying or syrupy. Would be curious to try this at a younger and older age. If you’ve ever had butterfly cake, this is it but in liquid form. I member when this was 30 bucks *siiiiiip* yep those were the days.

>>16460976
Larceny Barrel Proof
Price: $49.99 USD
Specs: 60.5% abv, 68% corn, 20% wheat, 12% malted barley, KSBW
Batch B521 (second release of the year, bottled May, 2021), NAS, but 6 to 8 years old average
Color: Deep amber
Nose: Deep and boozy sinus-opener at barrel proof, but a fresh and fruity quality lurking underneath, bananas foster and cooked red apple, lots of vanilla. No spice to speak of, except maybe whatever was left over from the McKenna. Explosively sweet smelling.
Palate: Surprisingly delicate: bubblegum and cooked apple again, more powdered sugar than caramel—bracing and unapologetically saccharine. Bananas foster carries it to the ending, upon which everything just floats off the tongue. Water seemed to enhance the alcohol, which ironically brought some of that sugar into balance, and underscored the fruit just a touch more.
Conclusion: About what I expected from a wheated bourbon at cask strength, lots of cooked fruit and sugar, lacking in the depth department. In the age of Buffalo Trace hype, this is a great value for arguably a better product than some of their cask strength offerings, but if you desire a bourbon drinker’s bourbon, you might curiously find this too light even at cask strength. Still, though, no faults, and it will get consumed.

>>16460976
>>16460981
fuck off reddit

>>16460981
Elijah Craig Barrel Proof
Price: $69.99 USD
Specs: 59.1% abv, 78% corn, 12% malted barley, 10% rye
B521 (Second release bottled May, 2021)
Color: Sherried scotch
Nose: Caramel and cinnamon really punch out, with some wood glue/toast underneath. Vanilla ice cream and fresh waffle cone buried a little bit further in there. Strangely softer than Larceny BP
Palate: Caramel leads here and seems to influence everything else—a bit of rye spice, a bit of vanilla, a bit of oak, but it’s all through the lens of caramel. Easy drinker for the proof, but also a bit simplistic considering the pricetag. On the low side of alcohol for previous ECBP releases, some going in excess of 70% abv. Water reins in the caramel and lets the other notes sit on their own, and also exposes more of the wood char.
Conclusion: Same mashbill as the McKenna, just younger, uncut, and a blend of barrels rather than a single one. Rounder than Larceny but underperforms McKenna’s nuance. This is a good whiskey, but considering it’s priced the same as every other premium release barring the unobtainables, it seems to lack clarity and nuance. I’ll probably play with this in some cocktails.

>>16460985
thanks baby

>>16460439
Yeah, even at 42% the Abelforths is still very syrupy and drinks like its 20%. Personally I really like that. But at 57%, the Navy Strength definitely feels like a proper drink.

>>16460993
Pikesville 6 Yr Rye
Price: $49.99 USD
Specs: 55% abv, 51% rye, 39% corn, 10% malted barley, SRW
Color: Deep gold
Nose: Black pepper, toffee, vanilla, and oak. Rye is forthcoming but has clearly been tempered to appeal more to bourbon drinkers. Dark chocolate/cocoa and cola nut. A hint of dill on the end, but not a lot of savory qualities overall. Pleasant nose but stark divide between bourbon and rye notes.
Palate: Orange liqueur and toffee, dill and pepper towards the middle, caramel and vanilla moving to the finish. There’s a lot to like here, and the sweetness is understated compared to its other heaven hill compatriots. Chocolate re-emerges after multiple sips and is enhanced by a drop of water.
Conclusion: Lots of complexity here, each sip offering up some different notes as the palate acclimates. Some of the notes feel discordant at times, but the whole package comes together nicely with some air and some time. Niggling complaints aside, this is a great rye and definitely worth the money.

McKenna 10 > Pikesville > Larceny > Elijah Craig

>>16459936
>I have a job that pays me more money than I can spend
can i have some money?

>>16457828
you bought 4 bottles of american piss that all taste like wood and glue

>>16460995
i always hear about this chocolate on the Pikesville/Rittenhouse bottles, but the closest I've ever gotten is southern iced tea.

nice reviews anyway. I also prefer the McKenna and Rittenhouse to the wheated and other barrel proofs from HH. usually if youtubers/redditors are pushing it, its overrated. although the McKenna was collateral damage as it was an age statment bourbon under $40 and available where Eagle Rare was first to go. Pikesville has a small cult following and I dont see it going anywhere soon.

do you into Scotch or Irish at all? if so show your collection.

>>16461108
Americans do make a decent bottle of piss if wood, glue and vanilla are your thing. If you prefer your piss to taste like dirt and vanilla, then Scotch might be your bag. I hear Japanese piss is a good imitator of Scottish piss.

>>16461108
Wood glue is overwhelmingly a scotch note imo, or for bourbons aged too long, too far up in the rickhouse (15+ years)

>>16461089
Get into application security, every company I'm aware of right now is hiring.

>>16461215
Naturally.
Old pic, I've since moved but all of my liquor is with a friend currently until I have a place to put it. As far as chocolate in pikesville, I was same boat until I realized I had chronically blocked sinuses. Can you hold your nose shut, attempt to blow, and pop the pressure in your ears? If not, you might have clogged sinuses too--a lot of people do but don't realize it. I certainly didn't. Once I fixed it, I could smell all sorts of things I couldn't before.

I'm about to go get drinks with some friends and I usually just get a beer because I don't know what to order.
What's a good whiskey cocktail to get? Or should I just order it neat.... trying to not be autistic

>>16461424
whiskey sour, simple but delicious

>>16461314
i have a deviated septum(occassional infections), but I can pop my ears no problem. Rittenhouse was one of my first ryes and I kinda dont try to dissect it anymore, just enjoy the smooth sipping rye.

I'm going to get a older bottle for my birthday coming up, hows the Glenfarclas 25? I have a bit of the 12 left to compare. Does it taste considerably old? I heard the quality of the younger stuff(12 and lower) is poorer than their older core range and at the price its hard not consider. It would be the oldest I've had yet. One anon nearly sold me on just by the description a few threads ago as it reminded me perfectly of a childhood memory. Otherwise I'll be saving for a 2022 Glendronach 21.

>>16461424
broilermaker or irish car bomb

>>16461450
Here's my description from my notes:
>Nose: Spiced red apples, sandalwood, clove, charred orange peel
>Palate: Fall potpourri, toasted almonds covered in dark chocolate, freshly-finished wood, leading into an intense mezcal-esque smokiness that lingers for minutes. As it fades, a bit more of the sherry comes back. Sweet spices reminiscent of the nose gradually reveal themselves after leaving it to air out.
>Conclusion: This is a potent, spicy, wood-driven dram, though surprisingly light on oaky tannins. Most of the fruit is gone, but what little remains does serve as an important counter-balance. Reminds me of late fall and/or a high-end furniture outlet. Not for the faint of heart.

It's a fantastic value if you like the style, considering you can get it for around 150 dollars, but it is very very woody. I think the 17 will be my go-to going forward just because the fruit's not as faded.

>>16460976
>>16460981
>>16460993
>>16460995

Anyone who pays those prices for bourbon or American whisky might as well buy the bourbon in my pic.

Unless you're in another country, there's no reason to pay more than $30USD for bourbon.

>>16462110
There's a lot of great <$30 bourbons, but none that are as good as, say Old Forester 1920 or KC Single Barrel Reserve.

>>16462194
was just thinking the same thing
You can really squeeze good bourbon out of the $30-40 price range though
four roses single barrel, KC 9
Russell's Reserve, etc.

>>16461603
yep, thats the one. iirc you described the 21 as being similar to the 25 with an exception right? is the 17 comparable to 25 at all?

I'm also thinking of getting a Compass Box Spice Tree(non extravaganza) to get some oakier experience.

What I really need is like five grand spend exclusively on whisky... and maybe a couple hundred for rum.

>>16460993
>younger than mckenna

elijah craig barrel proof is 12 years old, it says so on the side label. the mckenna is 10 years old

>>16461450
>i have a deviated septum(occassional infections)
this is exactly the type of thing that i would expect a whiskynerd to say

>>16462227
Get yourself a Glendronach 18 fren.

>>16462749
I was close once, but I only spotted it behind the register as I was walking after buying my Glenallachie 10. I only brought exact change for what I was getting and it was twice what I had on me and I would've had to split it with my dad who is type of boomer who literally can not sip to save his life. I would've never heard the end of it as he could buy more than enough Jameson to last the rest of his life with that. I didnt even have the guts to ask to see the bottling date, but since it was a special order that never got picked up I would guess it was at least 2018-19.

>>16462691
huh, no shit. I could have sworn previous releases were NAS, but I guess it helps to look at the bottle

>best whiskey not even in thread
you guys suck

>>16463615
uh friend it clearly says whisky, not whiskey
how can it be the best whiskey if it's whisky

>>16459318
Vitamins