/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>16449823
learn
to
cook
or
at least learn to fucking eat

>>16449823
nutritional science is a joke field, ignore it

>>16449823
Cholesterol=bad is a myth
Honestly the FDA has been wrong so many times and nutritionists will say whatever they're paid to say and make the studies fit later.
It's like how breakfast is supposedly the most important meal of the day, it's not but Kellogg's paid nutritionists off to say so, same thing with the food pyramid having us eat a shit ton of carbs.

>>16449863
>>16449898

stfu fattys, you're wrong

>>16449902
Retard cope and not an argument. Tell me how meat causes heart disease or insulin resistance. I'll hold my breath.

>>16449823
A lot of people believe it. They will be unhealthy forever because they believe everything college """educated""" people say about nutrition

>>16449823
What else would you even eat if red meat is supposed to be limited to two times a month?
Fuck this

>>16449961
Eat the bread goy and drink your orange juice goy. If you get diabetes here take this insulin. If you get heart diseases here take this statin. If you get gout here take this allopurinol. etc etc etc. The real problem is insulin resistance caused by the tsunami of garbage quality carbohydrate we have faced over the last half century that has poured gasoline on the fires of chronic disease.

>>16449823
Cholesterol is for faggots. I eat large amounts of red meat for 2-3 meals a day.

>>16449989
based but do you include organ meats? that would be doubley based

If Americans have proven anything to the rest of the world, it's that they're incapable of listening to experts if anything they say proves to be a mild inconvenience in their lives, regardless of the long term consequences.

>>16449992
No, I'm not poor.

>>16449995
>mild inconvenience in their lives, regardless of the long term consequences.
You mean like the current diabetes and obesity epidemics due to high carb recommendations?

>>16450006
Nutritionists are not responsible for your poor education and the fact that you can't tell the difference between a simple and a complex carbohydrate, Cletus.

>>16449992
ive never had organ meat before, where's a good place to start?

>>16449995
>>16450015
The entire west is being plagued by high increases in overweight and obese people in the past decades. America is hit harder than the rest of the west, which is attributed to their larger population of africans, who are disproportionately affected by this epidemic

>>16450017
Chicken hearts have a pretty light flavor and are similar tasting to regular chicken thighs imo. If you want to try liver which is perhaps the most nutritive food on the planet start off with something like a paté that is mixed with other meat so the flavor isn't as strong. If you like that you could just try some chopped liver and onions. I don't have any experience cooking kidneys other offal but I've heard good things. There's plenty of options just have to look around a bit to find them.

>>16449823
I don't listen to (((experts))) and I haven't been sick in the last 15 years

>>16450028
It's not just the African Americans its also the Native Americans, the Hispanics, the Asians, and even whites. It just correlates strongly with socioeconomic status in general which can likely explain most of this. We are all effected by this tsunami of processed crap even if the ill effects manifest slightly differently across different populations.

>>16450036
Blacks are unique in that there is no relationship between socioeconomic status and obesity rates(no statistically significant relationship that is, the raw difference is actually an increase in obesity with socioeconomic status)

https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/adult.html

>>16450046
Interesting if true but why do you suppose that is the case. I know of one such example with respect to Hispanics where they produce more liver fat to equivalent fructose relative to other populations due to a genetic mutation. Are you saying there is something similar with regards to Africans?

chicken, pork, beans, salad, carrots basically all other food in the world

>>16450049
I am not speculating the cause. Simply stating that America is being hit harder due to a larger population of disproportionately affected groups, not because of "muh small town white americans".

>>16449823
>What the fuck else are you supposed to eat
White meat. Combine with rice potatoes and a salad

>>16450071
>animal fat baaaaaaaad

>>16449823
I don't. Everything in moderation is the golden rule that has prevailed over meme food ((("science"))) that has been published until now. Look at centenarians who are healthy drinking wine and smoking, etc. in moderation while monitoring their health and acting accordingly.

>>16449898
big corporations just pay them to say a bunch of dumb shit so they can sell people a fake "healthier" option. it's exactly what happened with the "fat bad" nonsense.

>>16450398
Sheep are fattier than a lot of beef and pork, brainlet.
>>16450052
Best post in the thread. As an American, it fucking pisses me off that a lot of Americans are such pussies that they won't stray away from beef, pork, chicken and the occasional turkey. Lamb, duck, quail, sheep/mutton, goat - all awesome tasting meats that aren't consumed that much in the USA. And when Americans do eat meat they almost never eat the organ meat (although we used to). If you are a meat eater and you don't seek to try all different kinds of meats, organ or otherwise, you're bitch made and don't deserve to eat any meat.

>>16449823
I love all kinds of foods and have no issue replacing beef almost completely, but I'd rather eat human than take this advice.

>>16449823
It's a measured fact, not a matter of belief you stupid fuck. You can eat fish, chicken, other white meats, fruit, vegetables, root vegetables, berries, grains etc. you idiot.
>>16450398
kys idiot

>>16450405
>Everything in moderation

Smooth brains feel so smart saying this, but its literally a tautology.

What is a moderate amount of:
Fruit vs Meat
Oranges vs Beef
Orange Juice vs Steak Tartare

>>16450411
>Sheep are fattier than a lot of beef and pork, brainlet.
you seem to have missed the point of the sheep
>>16450414
>you stupid fuck
>you idiot
>kys idiot
pic related

>>16450411
>trying other foods
Glad someone here has a brain. I made a post a day or two ago about how pitiful it is when people refuse to try food from other cultures and drowned in a pool of smooth brains screaming about how people are always going to prefer their native culture's food and that's okay. Maybe it's because most American (specifically midwestern) food does suck, but I prefer most any other culture's food to my own.

>>16450412
>I'd rather eat human
I've always wondered, anon.

>>16450428
Fucking same. I've never met someone I would want to eat, though.

>>16450421
Trying to insinuate that animal fat isn't bad by posting one of the fattiest meats (sheep) there is? I don't think you're clever enough to have planned that out that much.

>>16450433
what sound do sheep make?

>>16450430
>>16450428
Get you some of that long-pig

>>16450435
Cries of joy and passion after I stick it in them raw

>>16450436
What qualities should one look for in a tall hog? A varied diet to ensure good nutrition? A routine diet to evoke flavor?

>>16450430
>>16450436
>>16450441
I like where this is going. I have always figured I'd eat someone I hated. I used to work with a woman of moderate fitness as to be juicy but not fatty, and nordic descent (for some reason I envision them tasting the cleanest). I hated her more than all the blacks in Chicago combined, and I'm fairly certain she'd be the one to whet my appetite first.

The original Framingham study which supposedly showed saturated fat is bad (its not) also concluded smoking is not bad for you (it is)

How can anyone trust this obviously biased shite

>>16450449
>I have always figured I'd eat someone I hated
So you might say it's less about eating them and more about shitting them ouh

>>16450452
people like stories and we have grown attached to the diet-heart hypothesis story

>>16450453
Well if you look at people as just another kind of meat - I'd rather butcher the pig that bit me than the one I raised. I suppose if a friend was on the menu I wouldn't say no.

>>16449823
i dont even eat 1 steaks a month is too expensive

>>16450441
You definitely wouldn't want a lifetime smoker, or someone who is morbidly obese, or a shredded juicer bodybuilder type

>>16449898
this. it's jews all the way down

>>16449823
I have 2 large steaks per week

>>16450015
Complex carbs are those ones that are hard to digest, that nobody eats, and that humans spent centuries trying to refine I to something better. Then along came the nutritional science retards to tell us they are bad for some illogical reason

>>16449823
Goyim are not allowed to eat meat.

>>16449823
havent eaten red meat in two years. turkey, fish, chicken baby

>>16451427
how's the transition going?

>>16451442
my transition to a healthier life style? pretty good, im 50 pounds lighter than i was before

>>16451427
No duck?
>>16451442
>Everything I don't like is a tranny
Shaddupa your face

>>16451470
i wish i had the opportunity to regularly eat duck but im not sure where to get it for cheap like i can other meats

>>16449823
As much as I absolutely loathe the constant dick sucking of (((experts))) even when they’ve been blatantly wrong a gorillion times before there’s plenty of other fish in the sea. Hell chicken alone provides a ton of different potential and thats the one meat everyone can agree isn’t too bad for you. Or was, dunno if chicken is now attacked or not.

>>16449958
>couldn’t get into college
>”hurr all educated people are dumb because some woman somewhere had a women’s studies major and couldn’t get a job therefore this represents everyone who has gone to college
Sour grapes.

>>16449898
>same thing with the food pyramid having us eat a shit ton of carbs
People even noticed that the high-carb diet plan posed serious health risks and caused obesity, but whenever it was brought up the response was to "just exercise more". Completely ignoring the fact that the average levels of exercise hadn't changed.
They effectively poisoned everyone in the country so they could sell more wheat.

>>16450017
chicken liver is great

>>16451561
Harvard is telling people to drop coconut oil in favour of fucking canola, quite possibly the most unhealthy, commercially available oil.
Big name "ivy league" schools have been a joke for the last decade AT LEAST.

>>16451577
corn and soybean as well but yeah

>>16451616
Harvard's School of Public Health has taken MILLIONS from industry I'd do the same if I was getting paid like that

>>16451625
Yeah, that makes it okay.
Fucking nonce.

substitute a nice tofu in place of where your steak would be. Your ovaries will thank you!

>>16451645
Obviously its pretty fucked considering most view them as a well respected authority on nutrition. If they knew who funded them maybe people would take their recommendations with a grain of salt.

>>16451489
Ah ok. If you ever get the chance, try quail. Ive had it at a Vietnamese place before, was fuckin awesome.

maybe there is a happy median between eating red meat twice a month and everyday?

i had a friend who had gout and quit drinking and went vegan and his gout went away.

>>16451616
Yeah that's fuckin dumb. The part about whole grains, nuts, beans, etc is fine though.

>>16449823
>2 steaks a months? What the fuck else are you supposed to eat for the other 100+ meals?
Are you serious?

>>16451659
Whenever funders are revealed, news outlets jump in to say it's antisemitic to care.

That's all b.s. I have been on and off again keto for years, I am in the best health of my life (my Dr. agrees) when I'm on keto and eat steak at least twice a week.

>>16451709
something something fat something something heart disease

>>16451712
seething

>>16451715
Did you not get the fact I was joking?

>>16451727
coping

S oy, jizz, tofu and bugs

>>16449823
There are a lot of other meats alone you can eat, and a lot of different styles of it as well, not that hard.

>>16449995
Essentially this.

>>16450411
This post is too based and correct for this board.

>>16449992
People who look to the Inuit diet to justify eating nothing but steaks while refusing to eat offal are almost more retarded than vegans.

>>16451561
>he still thinks these people aren’t just golems for whatever company is paying their grants and research
You’d think the whole thing with the food pyramid would have raised some eyebrows.

>>16452025
They generally are, but they also recommend common sense stuff (that somehow people still don't do) like drinking enough water each day, promoting consumption of greens and other vegetables, etc. That stuff is all well and good. Just have to take most of their advice with a grain of salt and follow that up with some independent research, and advice from your doctor.

>>16452082
your doctor wont give you independent advice he is beholden to the government guidelines because they are viewed as the "gold standard" but if he is good he should make some individualized recommendations based on what problems you may have

>>16451993
Big true the Inuit used the whole animal and drank the broth they made from the bones and consumed all the organs and viscera

How the fuck are there multiple manchildren every day on /ck/ having a meltdown over red meat?
Go fucking kill yourself you worthless retards, no one wants to hear you/people exactly like you screeching for the 1000th time

>>16452211
why are you seething? we talk about it because its constantly shoved down our throats that meat will kill us and destroy the planet with no good evidence behind it yet we are the obsessed ones...

>>16449961
Believe it or not the world is full of foods to eat besides red meat

>>16452236
But are there any as nutrient dense? No there aren't unless you mean organ meats which is also underconsumed because cholesterol will kill you

>>16450660
...complex carbs are fruits and vegetables, son

>>16449823
this is for "people" aka fat retarded people who are fat and unhealthy. if you eat well, red meat a few times a week even is fine and you won't have high cholesterol. poor health is a complicated process with lots of feedback loops. being prediabetic makes steak worse for you. being fat makes steak worse for you. having low oxygen levels makes steak worse for you. etc etc. if your body is healthy then cholesterol is good (you need it to make vitamin D after all) but if you're unhealthy it won't get processed correctly or enough

>>16450411
>>16450425
European here, you're kinda right, but not fully.
The US has ethnic restaurants and tons of options, but there are many countries around the world which won't even dare try a different cuisine.

>>16452228
Really? I'm the one making threads about that?
Oh wait I haven't and there aren't any up yet we still have to put up with mongoloids like you daily.

Stop acting like you've been told you aren't allow to wear your favourite fedora anymore.
Eat however much meat you want, no one gives a fuck.
But if you're going to screech and have constant meltdowns about it then fuck off back to r*ddit and f*cebook and whatever other social media sites you worthless fucking subhumans came here from.
Imo you should eat red meat 10x a day, anything to expedite the world away from your annoying, tear-laden fucking existence.

>>16451616
>plant sourced protein
Here comes that BeyondMeat donation money again...

>>16452228
>reads clickbait article about red meat
>HELP I'M BEING ATTACKED I HAVE TO THROW ANOTHER TANTRUM ON /ck/ THEY ARE FORCING ME TO I HAVE NO CHOICE
haven't been here as much in the last decade but I'm not surprised that newfags have essentially turned this site into Facebook

for me it's the carnivore diet

>>16452279
>>16452299
Lol absolute cope enjoy your soy burgers and stunted children

>>16449823
menstruating people

>>16452426
*ahem* it is actually people who menstruate bigot

>>16452430
Sucks we don't have a name for those

>>16452466
That doesn't look like anything to me.

>>16449823
Imagine being this.

oh wait im in america. Where the retards think cooking steak is "cooking" tossing meat with veggies = so hard and much skill.

>>16449823
I don't eat meat or drink alcohol. Perhaps try that.

>>16452577
Who are you so mad at?

>>16452275
>many countries around the world which won't even dare try a different cuisine
not surprising in the slightest, honestly. where did you go in the USA, Euroanon? did you get to have real barbecue while you were here?
>>16452194
Good point, an important distinction. if you find a good doctor, do everything you can to keep them as your doctor. its just like finding a good mechanic.

>>16452645
this is the first iteration of this meme that i actually like

>>16451993
Now this is based

>>16449863
>>16449902
he's right. every single person is different health-wise, so for their to be nutrition guidelines for EVERYONE is absolutely ridiculous and stupid

eat the bugs
live in the pod
drink the poo water

>>16449995
>trust the experts

>>16449863
it's a joke because it's so simple, all it takes is common sense and knowing what you're eating

>>16454572
that's nonsense, sure some people have allergies or whatever, but the general principle remains the same for everyone

>>16449995
Eat your tofurkey homo. I'll eat meat 7 days a week and spit it back in your face.

vegans should be fed to wild animals

>>16455031
That's an ad retard

>>16449823
Fuck that, it's burger week this week and I'm getting $6 burger specials every day. I even took my grandma to lunch this week and she said she had the best burger she's ever had.

>>16455378
grandmas are pretty great

>>16449823
The health experts who gave us the food pyramid have told us that it's healthy to be eating mostly bread and other grains or complex carbohydrates as the majority of our diet over the span of that month, duh! Trust the science damn it.

>>16449823
>>16449965
I don’t typically listen to health ((experts)) either, I only eat meat at parties or religious feasts. I’m just someone who would take bread over meat any day. A large chuck of my diet is from cane sugar too, which ((experts)) say to avoid. Most of the promoters of the low-carb diet are of a certain ethnicity too. From the studies I have seen those who eat moderate carb, moderate protein, and moderate fat have the lowest mortality rate.

I was pre-diabetic and my doctor said I should cut out sugar. I increased it. I cutting out a majority of fat and that brought down the blood sugar and I also lost weight.

Garbage quality fats were the real tsunami in the 20th century. Lard replaced by solidified cottonseed oil and palm oil. Shelves filled with vague “vegetable” oil. Animals stuffed with soy and drugs, compromising their own precious fat stores.

>>16455378
>she said she had the best burger she's ever had
wholesome as fuck, nice, I'm happy for both of you

>>16455378
enjoy your grandma as much as possible, cause one day she'll be gone forever

>>16453068
Austin, TX
Ribs, burnt ends and coleslaw mmmm

>>16455038
>the general principle remains the same for everyone
fair enough. i can agree with that. but i like to think, hey, my ancestors grew up around X Y and Z so that is probably good for my diet, whereas for someone else, that's not ideal

>>16449823
>mongols eat mostly meat and dairy, very little grain
>strong, with good teeth and bones, low rate of disease
>egyptians eat almost entirely grain
>dog shit bones and teeth, birth defects, feminized men, high rate of disease and low life expectancy
we worked this shit out thousands of years ago and the "science" has only recently changed when there has been massive profits to be made in grain sales
hmmmmmmm

>>16451669
it was becuase he quit drinking dickhead not from being vegan

>>16457421
b-but the Harvard says grain good meat bad how could they be wrong?!?