/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>16440149
>is opening a british pie shop in the usa a good idea?
not if you plan on keeping it...America is a 3rd world country that allows blacks to burn down buildings whenever one of them is killed by a policeman while doing something illegal

>>16440161
Police going around killing people definitely sounds third world.

>>16440149
Are british pies different from the various quiches and pot pies you can get at every california grocery store?

>>16440149
No, that wouldn't go over in California, or probably anywhere. I spent a couple years in NYC and there was a 'straya pie place that seemed to be getting a bit of hype. I tried it and it was extremely mediocre - but all the reviews from Australians said it was really authentic. Meat pies just aren't good; or at least aren't worth what you'd need to charge to make any kind of profit in places that are going to try a new British "food" place.

>>16440149
there have been several, they just all failed.

>>16440149
seems comfy, but for some reason any kind of baked goods just don’t go over well with amerilards

>>16440149
We have empanada and Jamaican beef patties, and I knew some South Africans who tried to get pie shops going in Florida, every single spot failed after a year, just never really caught on even though local workers were going there numerous times per week. You'd probably have to market it all crazy to the empanada and jamaican beef patty crowd too.

I wouldn't invest in a brick and mortar building until you build a following with a cart or something. meat pies can be good, but yours will have to be exceptional to survive (no one regularly eats savory pies here). But if you make some variety like buffalo chicken or barbecue bao filling along with more traditional pies I could see it working, though still more as a cart or as a gas station product.

>>16440177
God knows what they meant by "really authentic." The best pie in the world is going to be just as authentic as one filled with gravy and gristle.

>>16440149
Terrible idea. There is no market and you do not have the resources to convince a huge mass of people into creating a market. You’d have better luck literally with a cart labeled “pork” which sells smoked pork by the 1/4 lb. At least people will understand it and perhaps try yours, unlike british pies, which nobody understands (ok, I do, and like them) and nobody will try.

>>16440166
I'd prefer that to blacks

>>16440149
Is this a joke? British food is probably the worst of all countries. Nobody ever chooses to go for British food.

>>16440149
Nah do an Aussie pie shop. British pies fucking suck by comparison and you can play off the novelty of an Australian theme or something

We had one in NYC called "tuck shop," that was Australian, but essentially the same thing. Great spot, but dude expanded in weird ways and it never worked out and he closed all his shops. If you do, make sure to include some sweet pies cause americans will love that.

>>16440275
Based

>>16440177
Who can say for sure, I wouldn't trust another Australians opinion on food unless I knew their palate well.

>>16440166
Brainwashed. Look up how often that happens and then come back to the discussion

>>16440321
>>16440242
Meant for

>>16440149
Yeah, it would definitely work well over here and you'd basically have no competition. I know in the midwest people would eat the shit out of it. We love comfort food.

>>16440311
This, also you need to have blooming onions. I have never met an American that didn't love blooming onions.

>>16440332
Tbh they're not even Australian but like always know your market first and foremost

>>16440325
This. It's bullshit pushed by the media to enrage the useful idiots. Statistically it is basically a nonexistent problem, especially for blacks.

>>16440161
Meds
Go back to your containment board

>>16440149
There was an Australian pie chain (which is to say they made British style pies and I honestly do not know what the difference was) in NYC for a while that was pretty good but they couldn't make ends meet and the whole thing folded

>>16440399
Australian style pies are single servings and usually fully encased. British style are larger and sometimes open faces (Sheppard, cottage, etc). Australian flavours are usually different but its rare you'll get the real Australian flavours outside of Australia (dukkah, emu, roo, etc)

>>16440399
If a place like that can thrive in NYC, it definitely could here in the midwest. Pot pies are popular in diners so a place that basically specializes in them would do well IMO.

>>16440412
>British style are larger and sometimes open faces (Sheppard, cottage, etc)
Those are different kinds of pies and are still made here. British pies are basically the same as Australian, have a look at the OP, you'll see the same pies served here. Admittedly you will see less steak and kidney pies and more steak and pepper
>but its rare you'll get the real Australian flavours outside of Australia (dukkah, emu, roo, etc)
It's rare, actually no it's non-existent that you'll find pies like that here unless it was done for novelty factor

>>16440436
Australian pies are basically exclusively gravy filled. Never gelled. Probably tastes better because of the ingredient quality rather than anything else.

oh look another stealth American hate thread, keep your fucking poverty food away from us nigel and bruce

>>16440455
What do you mean by gelled?

>>16440149
I found one near me and I go regularly. The curry pie is based.

>>16440149
I don't think it would take. If you tried to make an honest adaptation it would fail in 6 months because it's working class food that I think you really have to grow up with to continue to patronize. And if you tried to upscale it you'd have to sell it for so much it would give people sticker shock. Maybe you could get away with selling them at sporting events or out of a truck because they are by their very nature portable food

>>16440653
its amazing how every single person has some garbage ass negative opinion like this

OP dude go for what you think will work, the one near me is doing quite well, there are actually several but I haven't been to them all.

Don't ask 4chan for opinions. Fucking losers come here and they want to drag you back into the crab bucket.

>>16440647
Pork pies and the like

Would even work a fried chicken pie?

>>16440669
Yeah true, never seen that here, looks kind of like a sausage roll though

>>16440665
I should have specified I don't think it would take in California, but I do think it could work in other parts of the country

I think it'd do well in the Midwest or some other flyover part of the country. Start off with a cart, see if there's interest, go from there.

>>16440729
the midwest is literally the only flyover part of the country.

>>16440177
i made a heathen pie this evening and it was absolutely delicious. made from scratch too didn't use any canned pie crusts or anything

>>16440753
wyoming and colorado are flyover states but not the midwest so what now mr scientist

>>16440399
You mean they couldn't make ends......MEAT GAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

no, we dont want your greggs

>>16440149
It woulda been smart in like 2010 when everyone was jizzing their pants over Doctor Who, but the common American opinion on England (especially amongst younger people) seems to be more negative.

>>16441186

>>16441186
Can't tell if this guy's British or American.

>>16440149
Do it
We only have one here in Pacific Grove and they only make em once a week

>>16440149
where in california? we have like 3 in LA, they arent that popular just because no one in america associates pie with anything but dessert,

>>16440161
jesus christ, just shut the fuck up

>>16440166
If the police killed everyone then third worlds wouldn't be shitholes.

>>16441384
>being this angry at a statement based on recent events
Seething.

>>16441199
he's bri'ish

>>16440149
Yeah come to Michigan brah

>>16441394
Uh huh yuro

>>16440729
I had a pasty in Denver by the art museum and it was good
In my home in California they might lose out to more-seasoned empanadas though. We don’t have Christopher Kimball taste buds here, at least not in large numbers.

>>16440149
i know a place that sells savory pies

>>16440325
That's way too often, cuck. Maybe you should try training your police in de-escalation instead of bending over and begging them to ream your asshole.

>>16440167
Yes

>>16440412
That's totally wrong. They are different kinds of pie.

>>16441451
We get empanandas here. They are pretty good not a different class than a decent quality pie.

I think the real issue is when Americans hear pie they think cake.

>>16440149
For for £15, thieving cunts.

>>16440332
It's fucking hilarious how popular they are and I've never heard of them until leaving Australia.
What other weird shit do you attribute to us?

>>16440149
this is the secret: do it so good that people have no choice but buy it in complete submission and become like drug addicts to you

>>16440399
They're just a snack on the go, it's weird making a whole store based on pies, I doubt it would last.
In Australia its bakeries that sell 95% of them, convenience stores buy frozen ones to heat up in shitty little ovens and sell them to drunks late at night also.

Americans associate pies with sweet so many won't go near them.

>>16440149
Okay, but please don't use organ meat or blood.

>>16440227
this anon sounds reasonable

>>16440149
Opening a restaurant is almost never a good idea.

>>16440218
you serve hot chips as well, so you've got fried food to appease the amerilard appetite.

>>16441613
When I was in London in 2019 there was a place down the road from the wax works place that was charging £17 for one pie.

>>16440149
NOOOO DON'T TAKE MY PLAN C IDEA ANON

>>16440311
>>16440332
Shut the fuck up Aussie pies are just English pies with fucking tomato ketchup ontop.

>>16440166
too bad niggers aren't people

>>16440149
Mmm, now I’m craving steak and kidney pie.

No, nobody wants that shit.

>>16440149
if it was me... I wouldn't want to see any pie "just ready to eat" I'd want you to cook it right there and then for me.

CA H8s UK

>>16440149
are these pies served hot or cold?

If they're hot I can see them doing well in a cold northern state. If they're served cold I foresee bankruptcy.

>>16442017
Pretty fucking edgy kid.

>>16442082
Most places sell them hot. But they can be eaten cold.

>>16440149
In my city we have one that’s doing alright, pies are good but expensive so only hipsters eat there. It’s also away from the blacks so it’s not a bad area

fuck aussie pies mate, nz is where its at. the sheer vartiaton on pies we have is staggering.

>>16440290
How much British food have you actually had though

>>the sheer vartiaton
and the sheer vartiation on words even more so!

>>16440149
I think you would do better in cold weather climates using a mobile food truck. If it's warm or hot out I don't want a hot savory pie. But six months out of the year it is shit out and something warm and savory/handy like a pie would hit the spot. Think Denver, NYC and Philidelphia from September to April.

>>16441199
He's literally got the Norf FC phenotype

It sounds interesting, but I can't imagine british food being that popular in Mexico.

>>16440149
Yes dude. I would try this in FL. The cubans have some really shitty meat pastries that are popular and ubiquitous so people are accustomed to eating such.

Meat pies are one of the greatest charms of the anglosphere imo, can't get enough of them there and can hardly find them in America.

>>16441803
this

far gayer and more disgusting slop has become trendy in america. Empanadas are shit compared to brit pies.

Americans already like everything in the brit pie, but no one knows how to prepare them here.


But I would reccomend calling them "meat pies" or something because amerilards literally don't know what british pies are and will assume it is a croissant full of sugar and cum or something

A whole restaurant would be way too risky, but I could see this working as a food truck in a business district during the day and a bar district at night. It could also work as a stand at a farmer's market that also sells them to be reheated. Though California probably isn't a great market for them, so you'd be best off selling them to drunks. Drunk or sober, Americans wouldn't eat gelled pies tho so strike those out of your plans

>>16440149
I think if you added things like soups and sandwiches you could have a chance.

I'll echo what everyone else said and say it would be fucking retarded to pay Chairman Xi all that tax money for a physical location for such a niche and memey idea. Now that amerigolums are used to the idea of a food truck and you can post on social media where you'll be a food truck is the perfect venue for this sort of thing. Low start up cost, low(er) financial risk, and you can go to where your customers are.

And yeah getting a slot at busy farmers markets and getting the word out that you exist is a good start.

>>16442379
Brits out here eating cumssants

>>16440149
should do authentic brit puddings too
Blackberry and apple crumble / Rhubarb Crumble
Bread and butter budding
Sticky Toffee pudding
Jam Roly Poly

done properly would blow their fucking minds, oh and please put up a sign saying "DON'T LIKE IT? Y'KNOW WHERE T'FOOKIN DOOR IS"

>>16441541
Oh shut the fuck up you limp wristed faggot

>>16442374
Croquettas de Jamon are fire though

theres a place in seattle that only sells piroshki. they're located where office drones and convention goers walk by. it's pretty successful.

meat pies got popular in england when they were sold to factory workers and prostitutes on their way to work. if you locate your business where drones and whores can by them you will be successful

>>16440149
Shop? No
Food truck? Sure

>>16440275
that's the entire point. they put you in an us vs them situation to make you accept more and more top down state control.

>>16442778
listen to this anon, OP
also some norf and souf decoration would give it that extra edge

>>16440149
the british always stealing from her colonys....

>>16442446
Gelled pies are not contained within ops pick. They are smaller, denser and filled with pork. You don't really notice the gel.

Otherwise they are essentially savoury pastry with a stew in it. There is s lot of variety in fillings or quality.

>>16442859
Piss have been around since the middle ages.

>>16443199
*their

>>16443095
this

>I don't want big government, I want less regulations, end this authoritarian regime the social Marxists are trying to force on us with their masks and vaccinations
>also militarize the police and cover for them whenever they kill someone in the streets, this arm of the government with power over me and consisting of at least 50% power-hungry pricks is my greatest ally

>>16441435
MUH SLIMS
The Americans response to criticism of his riots and failing economy.

>>16440290
Imagine basing your entire world-view off of memes spouted on the fast food board of an anime website.

>>16440331
>we love comfort food
No, you love factory farmed meat, potatoes, canned veggies/soups and zany carnival food like deep fried butter, chili spaghetti and "gigantic fried meat on tiny bread xD". Your tastebuds might as well be non-existent and I highly doubt you've had any real comfort food. Even british pies would be too flavorful for your midwestern shitpalate

>>16441541
>that twig that doesn't anything about policing or anything that requires physical work and quick thinking

sure buddy

>>16440149
no because pies are extremely overrated even in countries where they are normal. ive lived in uk for 12 years and can honestly say ive only had a handful. my gf doesnt even eat them despite being british.

its just an old archaic poor peoples food. there is no point introducing them to a new demographic because there are much better things to choose from these days and they wont go for it.

>>16443415
>that twig that doesn't anything about policing
based cop IQ on display here

>>16442778
I'd try this over a meat pie

>>16440275
Would you really?
Would you actually like an actual police state?
And no, niggers wouldn't be there since they'd have already been exported/purged

>>16442778
this seems good

>various meat pies
>sausage rolls
>mash
>'chips'
>a few different gravies

could work as a cart. a shop seems more restricted and risky to me.

>>16440149
I wouldnt open a can of soda in California let alone a business. There's a fish and chips place near me that absolutely kills it. The food is good as far as food goes but I couldnt even say if its good fish and chips. But every day, its slammed. Menu seems legit but Ive had "authentic" Southern cuisine outside of the south that was trash, Im sure UK stuff is the same

>>16440149
>Moo
>Moo & Blue
>Kate & Sidney
>Free Ranger
>Chicken of Aragon

>>16446225
That place seems based. Very cheap food and 4-7 happy hour.

>>16441541
>training your police in de-escalation
>NOOOO FUCK DE-ESCALATION I NEED A TACTICAL BASEBALL CAP, AN AR,15, AND FULL SLEEVE SKULL TATTOOS TO GO ALONG WITH MY ONLINE CRIMINAL JUSTICE DEGREE

>>16446231
I like it a lot. Oddly, its in a not-great part of town and kind of remote (for the area). I just havent had "real" British food to compare it to. Seems like the owners have a passion for the food, so Im guessing it has to be close. The tartar sauce is the best Ive ever had in my life. Is that a UK thing? I know gravy, butty peas, gravy, pies etc is.

>>16440149
>card payments only
is that legal? in the us you legally aren't allowed to refuse cash as payment for a debt

>>16446225
>proper fish and chips
>tartar sauce

wots dis poofter sauce weres me tommy k

>>16440161
FPBP

>>16446276
Brown for me la

>>16443231
Can't even tell who you're trying to shipost about because the marxists ALSO want militarized police to enforce masks and vaccinations. They just don't want them arresting niggers for looting, stabbing, or property crimes.

>>16446269
What are you babbling about you stupid yuropoor? That's not true at all. Cash is legal tender that can be used for all debts but that doesn't mean you are forced to accept it.

>>16443231
I like how marxist shills try to to equate violent nigger criminals burning down cities, raping people and stealing property with masks and vaccinations.

>>16440149
> card payments only
KYS

we have several of them in my town. it’s a cafe actually, and they sell the pies. it’s more popular than starbucks here and people seem to love the pies

>>16440149
i'll give u a cow pie faggot

>>16440161
A local bee keeper opened up a tea shop with British pastries, loose leaf teas, lattes, and the honey she makes. Very cute shop. Her front glass door got busted and her bolted safe got stolen during the Black Lives Matter riots. The store was only open for a few months

>>16440149
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogfyJICT9aI

>>16446276
>>16446297

>>16440149
No

Amerifats only like fried foods with extra corn syrup.

California is healthier than the average amerimutt state, but that won't last long with fat ass spics flooding in from the south.

>>16440149
>moo and blue
>most amerisharts will never experience the delight of a beef and stilton pie
>mfw

>>16440412
>real Australian flavours
>dukkah, emu, roo, etc
what the fuck are you talking about

>>16447450
Wtf, do they not use tartar sauce with fish in England?

>>16441613
That's 3.75 each, and Pieminister has much better ingredients than chip shop pies

>>16440149
>card payments only
imagine not accepting cash

>>16440149
No brainer for who? No one wants to eat flavorless ground meat and gelatin mixed in a shitty pie dough. Americans might be used to eating trash food, but british "cuisine" is whole nother level of straight ass.

>>16447450
gravychads rise up

>>16447450
>for me, it's chip spice
I guess that's just chicken salt

>>16440673
i'll eat anything with "zinger" in the name

>>16441199
clearly a brit because the tattoos are placed in "trendy" locations. fat white middle aged americans mostly do arm or leg tattoos

>>16440149
Your business will die in California, not fruity and progressive enough for their food culture

You know who appreciates bread and meat? The Midwest

Cost of living is dirt cheap and the minorities are respectable because our police aren't afraid to shoot, also, if you actually care about the craft then you want the best cuts of meat you can and that's the Midwest in America, get buddy-buddy with a farmer and you will never have to worry about low quality meat

>>16447547
Absolutely not ya wanker

>>16448469
i call my throbbing swollen cock "the zinger"

>>16441541
Would love to see how you deal with people as a cop. I'm sure you would save every life and be the shining beacon of hope you preach so highly about

>>16448986
The US doesn't have the only police forces in the world, kiddo. Unnecessary force is neither the golden standard nor an unavoidable consequence.

>>16440149
>british pie shop
>california we don't have any
There are two within 30 minutes of me where I live in Los Angeles. Three, if you count the "British pub" that also serves pies.

>>16440673
No, the batter would go all soggy and disgusting

>>16448978
Prepare to become a tranny my dude.

>>16440325
Well police have also been able to lie with impunity on their police reports too which is another thing we're trying to change. So it's hard to say.

I always fantasize about opening a niche restaurant in a foreign country and just blowing their tits off with S-tier Tex Mex or BBQ.

>>16440645
Obseessde

>>16443340
except here in michigan, the pasty (handheld version of the meat pie) is the official state food
pasty shops aren't as common in the southern part of the state, but in the northern part where mining and logging were major industries, they're goddamned everywhere

>>16447450
and the vinegar? Where is the vinegar?

>>16440161
its kinda sad that yuropoors actually believe this shit cause they're fed so much sensationalist media about burgerland

>>16440149
what flavour is "free ranger"?

I think it might work if you made it a combo barber shop/meat pie store.

>>16440149
Why not make some free samples for people and ask them what they think? I'd imagine it to be a tough market to crack because California is a hot country and pies are stodge for a cold country to keep you warm. Also, traditional English food is simple by nature and really requires good quality ingredients to stand out. Since industrialization the quality of the ingredients has taken a major hit and is only now starting to get better with 'regenerative' farming.

>>16440161
t. children raped by pakis constantly and is forced to kneel for trashford and other niggers who lose the euros for him

>>16440177
that one in costa mesa? yeah, it sorta ISNT authentic because an aussie meat pie is fucking crap and the place that was doing aussie pies were making them too good, but thats kinda besides the point. its gas station food, and its more of a nostalgia/comfort thing where you get it because your in a rush, or you have a freezer bag full of some cheap ones you heat up when your half black out drunk.
same with anzac biscuits. you go anywhere and its made really well with good ingrediants but a real anzac was shit made to be brittle and hard as kangaroo dick so it would survive military conditions. your SUPPOSED to leave those fuckers out so they reverse-stale and hilariously get SOFT and edible.

same shit with vegemite. its literally leftover beeryeast the military said "we need rations that have some vitamins. but we have nothing but garbage here, everything else is a vital resource. figure it out fucker" and we got black death on toast. which is good, but also besides the point, that shitll last in a cabinet 10 years past its use by date and not look a molecule different to when it started.

>>16440161
You're not white

oi where my nsw bros at

>>16449042
it's the only one that deals with African-Americans on a daily basis. not blacks btw, African-Americans

>>16449042
lmao have you never seen brazillian rekted webms

>>16442778
A british pie and pudding shop sounds like a novel idea, honestly. Make it a little breakfast/lunch thing, keep it small scale (market it as 'homely'), and you'd have a great concept.

>>16452221
Sydneysider

>>16449918
follow your dreams anon, just make it night or mid-day only so you don't have to enslave yourself that hard, working on restaurants is suicide inducing, mostly cause you're enslaved all those long hours and barely any free time

>>16440161
incredibly based

>>16440149
I love meat pies and would eat there all the time.
But I don't think its a popular food here.

>>16440149
>opening a business in california
shiggy diggy

>>16440161
In what civilized country is extrajudicial execution an acceptable punishment for "doing something illegal" you fucking dunce?

>>16440161
holy fucking meds batman

>>16450248
salt and vinegar is standard

Puff pastry is just... not good for savory dishes. You cannot change my mind.

>>16440412
kek wtf is dukkah??

>>16440161
fucking based and truthpilled

>>16442054
>one steak and mushroom? yep no problem that will be ready in 58 minutes.

>>16440161
this is an relative threat/problem depending on where you live in CA OP

>>16452592
Lol are you trying to dispute that absolute fact? Stinky nigger with worthless nigger parents

>>16452359
Bryan was a mad cunt.

>>16440149
>Free Ranger
>still have to pay for it

>>16440149
It might, but like any non-american food joint in america, being "authentic" doesn't get you anywhere -- you have to improve upon it somehow.

>>16452592
Who hurt you chud

>>16440167
I’ve never been to California? Do they use hot water crust pastry for their pies?

>>16457240
nope