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>>16433252
>Part 1 of 2.
Part 2 of 2.

Ask any reputable knowledgeable barista what they think of dark roasted coffee.
They will give you that look if they could not talk openly about it, or they will tell you the truth, that dark roast coffee is an absolute shit not resembling taste and flavors
of how real coffee should taste like.

So if you have any intelligence and decent IQ level, you should stop buying that evil shit known as dark roasted coffee.
At first, brewing and drinking medium (or lower levels) of coffee roasts as in the image will taste funny to you because you are accustomed to that artificial burnt charred taste of asphalt when drinking dark roast coffee.
With lower roast levels of coffee you will start tasting coffee oils and coffee sugars and many other very interesting and exciting coffee flavors that dark roast coffee has killed in an extremely high heating-roasting process.

Tell the evil dishonest coffee merchants to go and fuck themselves, and stop buying their garbage dark roasted shit coffee.
NOW YOU KNOW THE TRUTH.
UP TO YOU TO CHANGE YOUR HABITS AND BRAIN WASHING PROGRAMING BY THE EVIL GREEDY COFFEE MERCHANTS.
I'm sure they will post here and dispute my facts, as greedy and dishonest rats as they are.

wtf I hate the maillard reaction now

>>16433255
Glow in the dark nigger

>>16433264
Cartoonish

>no citations
>no sources
>claims with no explanations
>fallacies out the dickhole
cool

>>16433278
>>no citations
>>no sources
>>claims with no explanations
>>fallacies out the dickhole
>cool
Oh you poor low IQ and low intelligence pleb who needs holding his hand and who can not use logic to grasp the simple fact that if you heat up and burn-charr food, (coffee beans, bread, meat, veggies)
to such hight temperatures that it will be very bad for your health, that it will kill everything that is good in that particular food, that it will change the molecular structure of that charred food
into a pure poisonous cancer causing garbage.

You must be one of those evil greedy dishonest coffee merchants selling dark roasted coffee.

>>16433252
>when roasting coffee beans to dark roast level it kills everything
inside of the coffee bean and changes coffee bean to a carcinogenic garbage power house.
But real men drink their coffee like their taste in niggers!

You get what you deserve you fucking faggots

>>16433333
wow all 5 of them
if wasn't for the 4 it would be 6. lol

>>16433252
There was a anon on here who worked in the industry. He said the levels of carcinogen were so low that it was neglictable.

I once tried this Wakuli coffee as they claimed it was so fresh and unburned. It tasted like tea. I had to scoop like four times for even a slight flavour to form in the cup.

>>16433256
>>16433252
GOD SPEED!!!!!!! FUCKING BASED!!

>>16433376
>There was a anon on here who worked in the industry. He said the levels of carcinogen were so low that it was neglictable.
Lol, of course he said that. He worked in that coffee roasting industry.
You don't need any scientific data (like this dickhead is requesting >>16433278), just use the very basic logic.
You burn-charr food in such hight temperatures that after is done it looks like image related >>16433256 and here >>16433326
Would you feed your dog that burnt charred meat?
I don't think so.
Yet people are eating that shit thinking that charred grill marks on meat are great and very desirable.
Why people are refusing to eat burnt bread?
It's the same principle as burnt-charred coffee \beans.

Coffee is disgusting, and there's no reason to drink it because caffeine comes in pill form.

Meds now

>>16433452
>Coffee is disgusting,

>>16433465
I hate women so much it's unreal

>>16433252
what's the point of dark roasting from a profit standpoint? do they not go as bad as fast because they're cooked to shit? if anything it would take more resources to roast to dark otherwise.

>>16433445
>Why people are refusing to eat burnt bread?
because it isnt tasty
>It's the same principle as burnt-charred coffee \beans.
no it's not, it's tasty.

>>16433469
>no it's not, it's tasty.
For low IQ low intelligence plebs it might be tasty.

>>16433445
>You don't need any scientific data
Yes, ooga booga, Grog no need no-ledge, Grog have feelings!

>>16433553
You sound like a nigger who craves fried chicken and water melons

>>16433252
>Evil
Go away you Russian troll. Go get your krokodil.

>>16433565
I think he was doing caveman speech

>>16433570
Eat shit. Your own.

>>16433580
What? No, YOU eat YOUR shit.

AGREED, DARK COFFE IS CANCEROUS.

>>16433580
seems to me that eating your own shit is much less degrading than eating someone else's shit

>>16433252
Coffee addicts should be gassed, schizos like you should be hung and then shot

>>16433624
Vegetarian soyboy LGBT tea drinker detected.

>>16433638
lgbtea lmao

>>16433624
I also want people to be killed

>>16433641

>>16433252
>>>/x/

>>16433624
Bring on the braps, bastard

>>16433252
>>16433256
>>16433326
>>16433445

>>16433468
The darker the roast, the less you taste the bean and more you taste the roast. There is a massive gulf between the quality of cheap and expensive beans when roasted blonde to light, but not much of a difference between them when they're burned. As bad as burnt roast is, it's a reasonable way to utilize the bad part of the crop instead of wasting it. It is intended for the lower class anyway.

Keep up the good work OP. Coffee merchants are seething

>>16433252
>Imagine a baker trying to sell his burnt bread a the same price as the properly baked bread.

Uhm, this is exactly what's currently happening with "artisan" bread

>>16433935
So you are admitting that you have no functioning brain cells to grasp that dark roast coffee scam.
But it's very possible that you are one of those dishonest coffee merchants being triggered that some people are getting educated about your dishonest coffee marketing practices.

>>16433468
You can use shitty beans.

>>16433252
fixed that for ya

>>16433376
tastelet detected.

>>16433469
>no it's not, it's tasty.
I bet you'd say the same thing about a burnt fence post. or that cat litter is crunchy.

>>16433252
Everything gives you cancer. I don't care any more.

>>16436203
LOL, he used to actually care.

>>16434916
I agree.

There is literally zero reason for coffee to be anything more than "light" roast.

>>16433252
too long, didn't read

>>16433252
>coffee causes cancer
dont give a fuck, i´m meat caused cancer then i´d die of fucking cancer too, i will eat what i want to eat, fuck this faggotry about health.

>>16436352
You should.
Learn something new in life.

>>16436358
It's not only faggotory about health, but about being ripped off by paying for a very substandard product (dark roasted coffee) when you can buy at the same price high quality product.
But only intelligent people will change their habits after they learn the truth, and will stop drinking dark roasted coffee, but plebs will be plebs no matter how much info and reasoning and facts they are presented with.

>>16436673
Only sheep believe that others are plebs because the wolf told them that the people who aren't sheep are plebs.
Get fucked mate.

>>16436673
Most people simply don't care enough about their morning caffeine to give a shit. I mean look how many people drink disgusting instant coffee with artificial creamer.

>>16436814
In a way it's good that idiots drink shitty quality dark roast coffee. More high quality coffee is left for us, the smart people.

everything gives you cancer, fuck off

>>16436641
Meds. Now.

I routinely buy these bread rolls. Fucking delicious.

>>16433252
>hurrdurr I don't need any actual data or facts, I just literally came up with this shit one day and call it "logic" and that's all I need
Sneed.

>>16433255
fpbp

This completely ignore the accumulation of harmful acrylamide in the roasting process, where by lightly roasted beans have more acrylamide than dark roast since the dark roast has been roasted long enough for the acrylamide to be destroyed.

>>16433252
Identify the carcinogen that is present in dark roasted coffee, and I'll take your ramblings seriously.

>>16433445
>You don't need any scientific data (like this dickhead is requesting >>16433278 #), just use the very basic logic.
Yeah either troll or schizo, brainlet either way. Abandon thread

>>16433333
terribly wasted quints

>>16436981
what the fuck is your hang-up about intelligence?

>>16433252

Everyone in this thread denying the OP's premise is a mouth-breather who buys pre-ground, low quality coffee from shart-mart.
He is correct that most of what makes coffee unique disappears as you begin to exceed a certain roast temp.
He is also correct to say that macro-roasters burn lower quality beans to hide undesirable, more acidic characteristics.
Further, he is no schizo to imply that profit drives less than desirable business practices which take quantity/stop-loss, as opposed to quality, into account. I am in the industry, and know what i am talking about

>>16433252

light roast is what White people drink

anything past mediun is soy tier or nigger coffee

>>16433452
>they need caffeine
i'll have a water please
tired? no, i took a walk this morning

>>16438928
Based and acrylamidepilled

>>16433252
Too long; didn't Sneed

>>16433252
>>16433256
Basically true. Dark roast only exists to cover up the taste of shit quality coffee beans. If your coffee beans aren't shit then light roast is better.

>>16438971
Do your own home work if need need specifics.

>>16439070
If you don't know what intelligence is then ask Google.
Google is intelligent and Google knows.

Always hated coffee. Fuck the caffinated jew

>>16436673
I can't find light roasted coffee anywhere besides the artisan coffee shops at 10x the cost. NOT the same cost as dark roast at all, they don't even sell dark roast of course.
I would have switched long ago if I could find light roast at the same price.

>>16440605
I think you are hugely exaggerating the cost being 10x more.
Maximum double the cost, not even that, usually 50% more.
If you can not buy from local roasting houses then try at your better grocery stores and at least switch to medium roast, tho some medium roasts are also quite dark.
Starbucks have light roasted coffee.
I never bought lighter roasted coffee beans from Starbucks, (only twice I bought medium roast coffee beans from Starbucks, and that it was like 10 years ago).
I might check their prices and compare to my local coffee roasting house prices.

Or, you might just buy green coffee beans and roast green coffee beans yourself, it's quite easy, especially roasting to light levels.
Just google it, it's fun.
I did it few times on a frying pan. Actually I might do it again.
Maybe some anons will chime in with tips how to do it.

>>16440557
Sometimes coffee is helpful.

>>16433326
>i don't have beyond a high school education

>>16442628
It shows.

Fuck the dishonest coffee merchants.
Roast your own coffee beans.
Super easy, especially if roasting to a light roast levels.
You will have fresh coffee, and will be inexpensive compared to buying from local artisan coffee houses.
It's super easy and fun thing to do, and your place will smell nice when roasting coffee beans.
Here we go.

Want To Roast Your Own Green Coffee Beans At Home?
https://www.homegrounds.co/how-to-roast-coffee-beans/

How to Roast Green Coffee Beans at Home.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1wBsf6bCnw

How To Roast Coffee At Home: A Beginner's Guide.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO_YpdhJ5DA

How To Roast Your Own Coffee Beans at Home.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Il2QKbVecVI

>>16439152
>>16440257
>>16441022
>>16442957

This guy has interesting tutorial videos on coffee roasting.

Today's video is "Home Coffee Roasters Questions & Answers With Rob Hoos".
The most important thing any home coffee roaster can do with their hobby is have fun while learning.
Today's video will give hope to all home coffee roasters who want to make great coffee.

Our guest, Rob Hoos, is a home roaster, author, professional roaster, trainer, consultant, barista and all around coffee enthusiast.
Rob shares his understanding of how anyone including a home coffee roaster can roast great coffee.
I asked my viewers to ask any home coffee roaster question to Rob in the comments from last weeks video
"the biggest mistake a home coffee roaster can make" and he answers their questions here in this video.

Home Coffee Roasters Questions & Answers With Rob Hoos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyH7sDb556A

This is also very interesting article.

IS IT REALLY WORTH ROASTING GREEN COFFEE BEANS AT HOME?
https://www.haymancoffee.com/blogs/coffee-blog/is-it-really-worth-roasting-green-coffee-beans-at-home

This is also a very interesting article.

IS IT REALLY WORTH ROASTING GREEN COFFEE BEANS AT HOME?
https://www.haymancoffee.com/blogs/coffee-blog/is-it-really-worth-roasting-green-coffee-beans-at-home

>>16439152
Btw, Thank you anon for your honest comment.
Being in the industry and honestly talking about its dark secrets is admirable and respected.
You too anon, Thanks. >>16440257

>>16433252
Medium roast is my favorite. The perfect balance of flavor. Dark roast tastes like shit to me

>>16433252
My local roaster calls #6 "Medium".
This is why I order online.

>>16433252
brown and black foods are cancer.

coffee is cancer.
chocolate is cancer.
charred things are cancer.
red meat is cancer.

>>16437366
would do a ham sammy with

Ok, you fags convinced me, I'm switching

>>16444515
Switching to what?

You can skip to 5 minute mark to get into the core of it.

Light roasts vs. dark roasts | Coffee basics and science explained.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRSS0VBV99c

>>16433255
dark roast has less caffeine the worse coffee tastes the stronger it hits i drink a pot black every day

>>16433255
This, anon need to be commited.

>>16446137
Who?
Why?

Am I doing this? I'm doing this... Oh god, why am I doing this? Right! Boredom! I'm not going to add citations because I don't care what you do with or how you feel about this post, and I'd like to keep this post unsplit, in a still-active thread, on this defunct, Azeri, competitive yerba-mate chugging forum.

>>16433252
>>16433256
>>16433326
If you want to be taken seriously, check your spelling, cite reputable sources of information, and avoid capslock, invective, and other indications that you are writing emotionally rather than informatively. With this post, you're not dispersing information, you're selling a manifesto.
Yes, darker roasts contain increased levels of acrylamide, acetyl pyridine, etc. which may increase the risk of cancer, but right up to the point of being charcoal (well past the second crack), they still contain some of the chemical soup found in green coffee that may or may not effectively decrease the risk of cancer (some of which are phenolic in nature, which may increase or decrease risk of certain cancers if metabolized in different ways), if only through the increased gut motility experienced by a large subset of coffee drinkers.

>reputable knowledgeable barista
Do you have an approved list?

>Intelligence and decent IQ level
Intelligence and intelligence quotient? You don't need to differentiate these.

>Evil greedy dishonest (sic)
Use commas, and be more succinct with your adjectives.

Some people enjoy a roasted or charred taste in some of their food and beverages. Chronic excess in this, as with a lot of things in our diets, may cause long-term health issues, but responsible abuses don't seem to be killing anyone faster than stress, viruses, bacteria, environmental toxicity, or the lottery of hilariously disastrous mishaps.
It's fine if you prefer light-roast coffee. It's fine if you don't drink coffee at all. Other people will probably be no worse off drinking their dark roasts and eating their well-done steaks.

>>16446778
>darker roasts contain increased levels of acrylamide
That's not true. Lighter roasts contain more acrylamide as acrylamide is burnt off with further roasting.

>>16447719
If they're starting, cracking, and finishing the roast hot enough. Complete breakdown requires either a small hold at ~575F or a long hold above ~350F... French and darker would have a lot of the acrylamide polymerized and oxidized, but it would have more pyridines and such (the second half of that sentence). Anything with a long maillard hold (any dark roast with a flavour that isn't day old campfire) would have more acrylamide to polymerize, especially if it's being started with a decent moisture content or a reasonably humid kiln.

And none of that matters unless you're actively trying to kill yourself with coffee. There are plenty of other sources of toxic and carcinogenic compounds that we intentionally and accidentally ingest and absorb daily; most of us die of other things.

Light roasts make a naturally superior cup of coffee. Though if you want all the flavour burned out of your coffee you can enjoy your french roast I guess. I'll be over here enjoying this fruity cup of guji.