/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>16412279
Because those are your tastes, you are incapable of critically examining them.

>>16412279
Elysian is based in Seattle, dumb nigger.

>>16412349
>>16412351
>t. mad hipsters

>>16412279
That's an Anheuser-Busch beer. They are not independent you dipshit. And most beers don't look like pretentious shit, pic related is independent and pretty good.

>>16412400
Get a life.

>>16412400
>That's an Anheuser-Busch beer.
no it's not you fucking retard it's been independently owned by Elysian since 96 in Seattle do your research.

>>16412279
Why do you always choose Space Dust when you make this thread? It's a solid IPA and I've always liked the label design.

my favorite "I just had one beer!" beer

>>16412408
Are you pretending to be retarded? AB bought it years ago

>>16412451
Just because they own it doesn't mean they control the original recipe or the way they operate. They simply own Elysian and get a part of the money. It's been virtually the same since they started but they're owned by AB. Stop being retarded.

>>16412452
So, it's owned by AB but it's also independently owned? Explain how that works

>>16412459
I'm not the same guy. AB does own Elysian but the way they operate has nothing to do with AB other than getting a part of the profit that Elysian makes. Stop being stupid.

>>16412466
Okay, so it's an AB beer since it's owned by AB. That's how it works you pedantic faggot

>>16412473
That's exactly what I saId. You wanna tell me that water is wet as well? Elysian's operations hasn't changed even by AB taking over. It's the same beer since 96 dummy.

>>16412476
Well, it has since they distribute more widely which usually means cutting corners and/or contracting out their recipe to be brewed in other locations. So yes the operations have changed. It's not the same local brewery. Stop being retarded. It's an AB beer and if they decide to, they will shut down the whole operation since they own your shit

>>16412483
>Well, it has since they distribute more widely which usually means cutting corners and/or contracting out their recipe to be brewed in other locations.
You know nothing about beer, zoomer. You're just a know-it-all with nothing to back up your talk.

>>16412279
Because that's the expectation... especially when the beer's made by Seattle hipsters for Seattle hipsters in a literal sense.

>>16412400
The icon/beer-specific logo seems to be a pretty trendy thing right now. One of my buddies is crushing it with his new brewery, but I swear I can taste the plaid in the beer.

>>16412487
We see it in literally every brewery AB buys. You're just in denial

>>16412505
Nah you're just a dumbass loser with no life.

>>16412513
You're in the beer thread on the cooking board of the Mongolian Yak-tipping forum with the rest of us. Come back with a sharper angle.

>>16412524
How about actually taking responsibility in your life and do something with it.

>>16412513
We get it, your city is gay and sucks and you thought you could take pride in at least one thing, but now you can't. I'm sorry

>>16412531
You're a stupid fucking piece of shit with no money and no girlfriend. Must suck having the most shittiest life.

>>16412527
>>16412533
Projection

>>16412537
Lol..

>>16412533
I'm eating blts with her now and drinking an actually independently run brewery's beer. We just worked on our house all day. How's your day going bud?

>>16412544
I'm out. Have a good day.

>>16412527
I make beer. What do you do?

>>16412545
Sort your life out and get out of the shit city

>>16412279
>Why do independent craft beers look like it was made by a bunch of Seattleite hipsters?
Because they were.
There is this nightmarish concept called coastal transplants, where the worst people from the shittiest parts of North America move other places and ruin them.

>>16412279
>>why do *Business* try to create *distinct label for advertising purposes*?

Gee I fucking wonder you fucking idiot.

>>16412767
Stay in Seattle you fucking hipster

>>16412825
Stay East, grandpa.

>>16412833
Whatever. Meanwhile I'm fucking 18 year old girls off Tinder and I'm 37. I hope you get laid anon.

>>16412279
OP is a Negative Nancy and a Gloomy Gus

Everything isn't a fucking problem

>>16412835
Lol, what a terrible brag. My wife's thinking about switching careers; I've been going over the brewery's beers with her a good chunk of the day, and the bar manager's showing her how to shut down the taps.
No kids yet, so I guess I don't have any proof for you. Want a video?

>>16412867
>My wife's thinking about switching careers;
HAHAHAHAHA fucking cuck. Imagine bragging about making beers like a loser and having no kids and being a fucking slave to your wife. Enjoy your divorce.

>>16412874
This is a beer thread homie. /pol/'s over there, and /b/'s on the other site. Sometimes I have to pull employee bonuses out of what could otherwise be a six-figure income for me, but I've got a nice house, a stable job, and a wife that looks good enough that I think she could make a few hundred in tips a night, and I don't let a single person who works full time at this brewery make less than $60k/a.

>>16412279
>Elysian
>Independant

They're literally owned by InBev you fuckpleb.

>>16412408
>>16412452
www.wsj.com/amp/articles/anheuser-busch-buys-seattle-based-elysian-brewing-1422038807
>Elysium isnt owned by AB!!!!!
>So what if theyre owned by AB, theyre totally indendent!!!!
I can buy this shit beer where I live in coastal SC, it isnt mom and pop you retard. Quit moving your goalposts

>>16414125
Just in the spirit of moving this conversation forward (because it's been stuck in this loop since the second post) - What do you think of the artwork on this one? I'm seeing Seattle/Portland riffing on Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

>>16414147
Its not "riffing", its literally just Ralph Steadman artwork. Being said I think it looks like shit

>>16414171
At least they got the actual guy I guess... I don't know, man, I'm struggling here. As much as I do tend to drink local, what with running a brewery, and having a bunch of friends who do the same, we've all made conscious efforts to be a bit more streamlined with our logos and artwork. I think I'm the worst of the bunch - I rip off Lawren Harris paintings for the backgrounds of my seasonals. The rest of the bunch just kind of go with flat colours or repeating patterns.

>>16412914
60k to work at a brewery? Is that normal and how to get the job??

>>16414202
It is probably not normal, and everyone works for it. If you're here 40-50hrs a week, you're working 40-50hrs a week (minus breaks) - we have very few specialists - even our chief zymurgist/yeast whisperer is on our tasting panel, weighs in on packaging/graphics/font, and helps keep our books clean.
The bar staff is paid well for bar staff, but they rely heavily on tips to break 60k, but the bar is the source of a decent chunk of our profits... so if they're under, I pull from the pool. People worth keeping make beer worth drinking, and people worth keeping are worth paying.

It's also a fairly small crew because of these backward-ass policies. If we bust into another market, and have to get another kettle and tank, then we might have to hire another person to help mitigate burnout, as well as bring the part-timer up to full time (She's making 30k for 20h/wk).

As long as my people are well paid, I'll never be rich, but as long as the growth is steady, and the beer's good enough to maintain things, I'll never be broke.

>>16414264
Is it very expensive to live there??

>>16414282
I'm not in Seattle lol. I hear it's pretty stupid there - not quite So-Cal, but still a financial improbability. Living at the brewery costs nothing, but I really discourage it, despite having done it for the first 3 years when I didn't have enough staff to get it off the ground.

>>16414296
pay me 60k, i live in the brewery, dont need rent and I live on beer dont need food!! kaching kachong!

>>16414301
Yeah, nah, the beer's not free... you get it at cost, but it's not free, and you have to be sober when you work - mistakes can be really costly.