/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>16387809
Really? That looks nice for $130

I got one for about £130. Not from Amazon though.

The quality is good and I like being able to have nitro coffee on tap. The coffee comes out great. Its just a case of pouring in your cold brew and screwing in a few gas canisters. The difficulty is finding the correct amount of N2O to add for the amount of liquid you have in the barrel. Just a bit of trial and error.

They are also difficult to chill if you dont have a big fridge. I put mine in a cool box with ice water and just top up with ice each morning.

Overall

>>16387976
Overall, would recommend getting if you are in to nitro coffee.

>>16387976
t. NORF hobbyist

>>16387990
You forgot to end that post with "Simple as".

>>16387809
bruh, just get a cream whipper

its /ctg/ you newfaggot nigger

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>>16387976
I read on the reviews that it loses its deal quickly and that the n2 cartridges are expensive/ don’t last long.
Can you comment on this? How much have you used yours?

Also what is up with this captcha? Is this new for 4chan? Where it’s asking to slide it until you get readable letters or numbers. This is so fucking annoying. And it’s mandatory on posting replies too. What the fuck.

>>16387809
Dude just get a Soda Stream and support a good cause while you're at it.

>>16387757
Out of curiosity, how do you pull your shots for a cortado? You use just regular full shots or do you restrict them?
Also, fuck this captcha, and fuck this thread title. It's /ctg/, yes I'm that fucking autistic.

>>16387976
>got one for about 120 quid n some change. Not from Amazon though. H8 em, simple as.
>The quality of dis gaget gud an' I like bein' able to have nitro coffee on tap, jus like a douse ada pub. The coffee comes out great, luv it.. Its just a case of pouring in your cold brew and screwing in a few gas canisters, simple as. The difficulty is finding the correct amount of giggle gas to add for the mount of liquid you have in the barrel. Just a bit of trial and error, M8.
>They are also difficult to chill if you dont have no big fridge. I put mine in a cool box with ice water and just top up with ice each morning, simple as really.
>Overall, luvely liddle cuppa brewer n worth it m8 if ya got the quid.

>>16387976
>got one for about 120 quid n some change. Not from Amazon though. H8 em, simple as.
>The quality of dis gaget gud an' I like bein' able to have nitro coffee on tap, jus like a douse ada pub. The coffee comes out great, luv it.. Its just a case of pouring in your cold brew and screwing in a few gas canisters, simple as. The difficulty is finding the correct amount of giggle gas to add for the mount of liquid you have in the barrel. Just a bit of trial and error, M8.
>They are also difficult to chill if you dont have no big fridge. I put mine in a cool box with ice water and just top up with ice each morning, simple as really.
>Overall, luvely liddle cuppa brewer n worth it m8 if ya got the quid.

NEVER had Coffee in my entire life.
What's the most premium experience I can start with? I want my first cup to be, within reason, the best possible cup of coffee. Obviously Arabica beans, but what's the best place to source them from and what method of brewing do you think is the best?

>>16389559
What is your salary and disposable income?

>>16388729
Different gas retard

>>16389559
If you are an American, go to dunkn donuts and get a cup of black coffee. If you can't stand that taste then you don't like the taste of coffee and no matter what you buy will taste like shit. Better off buying cheap coffee and adding milk/cream to it.

>>16389559
geisha is phenomenal, but only really worth it if you've developed a palette for coffee. find a café that knows what they're doing. you want single origin beans (one type of bean, instead of a blend of multiple types). I'd recommend a washed-process coffee from Africa, Ethiopian or Kenyan or something. These have really clean, pleasant flavours that are generally agreeable. You'll know if the café is decent if the barista can tell you about the origin and processing of the beans. Oh and probably get a long black, bold and flavourful but not as intense as just an espresso shot

>>16388701
I've had it 18 months and used it fairly consistently in the summer months since then.

I normally make around 2-3L of cold brew for a 5L barrel. That requires 2 or 3 8g nitro cannisters to pressurise and get a nice drink. I buy them from ebay/amazon, normally for about £7.50 for 10.

I typically use cheaper beans for cold brew. So the price of the beans plus gas is still cheaper than espresso with fresh speciality beans.

>>16389559
>the most premium experience
Get a genuine, coffee enthusiast, friend to make some for you.

>>16387809
For something that small you shouldn't absolutely need to buy something expensive. Do you need a nitro tank for those cause that's what's going to be expensive if you need one.

>>16389559
v60 dont let french pissers tell u otherwise

My local roaster dropped four interesting coffees and I can only get one since i'm broke. Which one do I get bros?

>>16387809
I rather hot coffee. Cold dulls the taste

>>16389856
Don’t listen to this faggot. French Press is an immersion method that extracts a lot of flavor from the coffee. V60 is a meme device that gives you a “tea-like” experience that “highlights the brightness” of the coffee. Basically what this means is you’re gonna be disappointed.

If you can handle a thicker, tastier cup of coffee, to French press. If you’re a little bitch that can’t handle a few particles of coffee at the bottom of your cup, go V60 and enjoy your bitter cup of nothing with notes of orange peel and burnt toast.

>>16389955
>drinking sludge

If that's what you like, go for it. V60 is far more civilized

>>16389890
I would say the kenya, but it's an espresso roast. so go with the ethiopia.

>>16389559
just go to a local roaster and buy a cup of batch brew or a cappuccino if you're afraid of black coffee.

How do we feel about Turkish coffee?

>>16389559
If you don't have a coffee enthusiast friend, then get a double espresso from the nicest coffee shop near you. Not only will this show you whether you actually like coffee (as it will be the most intense flavor) but ordering a double espresso will often signal to the barista that you actually want COFFEE, and they'll put extra effort into it, since it's not just going into some thot's milkshake frappuccino or whatever

>>16390086
Better than espresso when drunk black. The only way I can tolerate a light roast.

>>16390059
Their espresso roasts are barely medium so they work for filter, especially that one since it's their acidic espresso line. SL28/34 are great varieties but i've never tried an anaerobic Ethiopian.

>>16390130
>The only way I can tolerate a light roast.
So you don't actually like coffee

>>16390161
>roasting coffee beans
>light roast
>still coffee
>roast a little longer
>medium roast
>no longer coffee

Right?

>>16389890
>and I can only get one since i'm broke.
Don't get any then. What the fuck?

>>16390016
Buy a Clara then, which objectively has less sludge than any other french press I owned. sludge doesn't bother me anyhow.

V60 is a waste of fucking time. French press is literally just set and walk away.

>>16390167
The longer you roast, the more the coffee flavor goes away, becoming quickly overpowered by the flavor of roast/burn
If you don't like light roast, then you don't like coffee. If you only like dark roast, then you don't like coffee. You like burn. Which is fine, but don't claim to be a coffee enthusiast in that case

>>16390186
>My taste is greater than your taste
Nigger you can be a coffee enthusiast while only drinking instant

>>16390210
Nope

>>16390186
this is the most snobby, elitist, incorrect post ive seen in a while here

Have any of you roasted your own coffee beans whit pic related, and would you call it good or trash?

>>16390179
I'm not literally broke, I just can't afford specialty coffee every day of the month so usually I buy 250g and skip drinking coffee when it's gone. Good coffee > no coffee > shit coffee.

>>16388081
This. Works the exact same.

>>16390271
don't people just bake them on baking sheets? that's what I did. didn't find it worth the effort.

>>16390281
>no coffee > shit coffee
meh. I made the mistake of buying 2lbs of Amazon "Colombian" and it's meh. I just cold brew it and it tastes perfectly fine that way. I imagine most shit beans probably taste fine cold brew.

>>16390321
Bait?

>>16390332
Unfortunately it's either expensive specialty coffee or burnt shit supermarket coffee where I live. I don't wanna be arsed with shipping fees. Maybe I should try using the cold brew dripper I got gifted with supermarket coffee and see how it goes.

>>16390186
Your dogma is really silly. Coffee is shades of brown.

>>16390334
100%
>>16390271
If you're planning on manual agitation and a burner, you're probably better off with a hive.

>>16389890
Ethiopia for sure. Anaerobic is extremely bizarre and delicious. Definitely worth tasting

>french piss
>literally 1 variable involved (immersion time)
>deluded by hollywood and nostalgia into thinking it's cultured
>same result using a bucket and sieve


>V60
>numerious variables including but not limited to: grind size, temperature, flow rate, ratios, bloom phase and filter type
>invented by autistic Japs that mathematically yields superior results to french piss

Answer me honestly french pissers: how do you cope with your daily diarrhea sludge?

>>16391265
Nobody is such a screechy little autist. Tone it down next time you want to shitpost, Brayden.

>>16391311
french pisser detected

No need to be militant about your preferred method of enjoying coffee, we're here to be frens and learn from each other.

Just bought a french press boys.

Ive given it a lot of shit, but Ive never really made it with good, freshly ground coffee so I thought it was worth a try.

The wife is kicking off though. She thinks we have enough coffee stuff in the house already.

>at work, coffee machine
>socially awkward coworker in front of me
>makes 1 cup of cappucino, one hot water and grabs a teabag
>fumbling and sweaty hands
>he notices me looking at him with a shit eating grin
>pic related
>he gets even more nervous, dunks the teabag in the cappucino
>whathaveIdone.ogg
>I say 'Watcha doing there buddy?' in a singsong voice
>my shit eating grin intensifies, he doesn't know what to do,
>poors some of the hot water into the capputeano cup and takes a sip
>awkwardly fucks off

>>16391597
you type like a fag and your shits all retarded

I hate coffee but want to be able to offer it to guests. Is a moka pot my best bet? I hear it's easy and produces decent coffee

>>16391265
You exaggerate. With the French Press you can vary:
Grind size
Coffee/water ratio
Water temperature
Immersion time.

>>16388729
>support a good cause
KYS

>>16391926
Get a La Marzocco Linea Mini.

>>16391926
Moka pot coffee tastes like shit.

French Press is probably an easier, faster way of serving coffee to guests with the added bonus that it doesnt taste fucking awful.

>>16391939
>You exaggerate. With the French Press you can vary:
>Grind size
theres a very small range of course grind to vary, not even comparable to the range of V60
>Coffee/water ratio
only for cold brew
>Water temperature
sure
>Immersion time.
said it

basically 2 variables if im being generous. still doesn't compare to the variability of a V60

>>16392279
Take the origami pill. You know you want to.

I give up on this stupid thing

I bought an electric gooseneck kettle and a hario v60. what's the best beginner coffee bean/grinder to get?

>>16392279
Some people just like oils in their coffee. Also most people don't want to fuck with "variability" in the morning. French press is much more consistent and repeatable than V60s.

>>16392401
have you tried looking up how to use it?

>>16393335
preferring french press is fine, but V60 is objectively superior

>>16391226
Yeah, I don't really have tablespace for another electric appliance in my kitchen, so manual is preferred. The hive roaster seems good, although more expensive.

>>16393497
>objectively superior
what a retarded thing to say. I prefer v69, but I see the value of french press. usability is absolutely a relevant factor and french press is incredibly simple. also the texture is far richer and slicker. maybe you miss some subtleties in flavour, but it's foolproof, unless you're a moron you'll almost always get an even extraction. both methods are completely valid.

The clara really works lads.
very little sludge. Coffee is actually hot after immersion time.

are there better french presses or did I literally fuck up?

>>16393650
Id have to really love French press to spend $99 on one. Hope it was worth it

>>16393668
honestly? it's a piss in the bucket. I mean so far it tastes about the ~same as my comparable Bodum one, but I don't need to do shit like preheat the glass and the plunger & filter design seem to reduce the amount of grounds in my cup.

I was just curious if there were comparable products and if I fucked up. Someone linked me some yt video of some thot making french press with it and I was like, ok, I'll bite, YOLO. etc.

>>16387976
You use N20? Is it viable to just get a tank and top off your cold brew keg rather than dealing with the little chargers?

>>16393962
It is possible, but probably not with these mini kegs.

Typically for home use to have something on a nitro cannister, you would use a Corny keg. They come in standard size of 19L but also available in 10L. They have gas and liquid connectors. You would need a corny keg, a high pressure regulator and a stout tap as well as all the connectors and tubing. You can get most of this as a set from homebrew websites.

It will cost you quite a bit more to do it that way I think.

Bros I dont know what is happening. I make coffee, take a few sips, then just throw it out. Can't stand the taste of coffee anymore, im becoming a tea faggot

>>16393636
na french piss is ass and your a tastelet

wow timemore finally realized that 20 g is too much for one coffee but too little for two.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ingSAwZdQtU


>>16394244
that is the toxoplasmosis talking, anon use Ivermectin

>>16394405
30g is too small for one though.

>>16393497
Objectively Siphon > V60. If you disagree you're a pleb.

>>16387809
I've been looking to get something, too.
I didn't want to get one too early since the home kits have been just emerging and didn't want to get a fraud of a product.
But I've been looking at the nitropress because it's made to be made for single servings. I'm not really interested in getting a keg since I don't drink coffee all that much.

>>16387809
What ever you get. Make sure you get something that uses pure nitrogen and not nitrous oxide.
Nitrous oxide doesn't make as good a nitro brew compared to pure nitrogen.

>>16391466
It's too late for me fren. I've become cynical when it comes to coffee. I've been working with specialty coffee for the last three years after two years of retail coffee, seeing shit like pic related every god damn day.
I judge the fuck out of anyone over the age of 28 and still working in coffee. Nothing boils my piss faster than some pretentious little cunt working in a """""""Specialty""""""" coffee shop that likes the idea of working in specialty coffee.
>Minimalist industrial design motif
>Chalkboard paint
>Shelves dedicated to hanging plants
>"(((We))) want to move the coffee industry forward"
>"(((We're))) excited to showcase some """new""" and """interesting""" coffees, that maybe you've never had
>*Single origin washed Columbian on house espresso*
>*Tastes like toffee, chocolate, caramel, and hazelnut*
I wish I could enjoy coffee when I'm not working, but it's a fucking struggle. Too many pricks who don't know what the fuck they're doing, but love to be able to wear replica Hoffmeme glasses, flanel shirts, and saggy tit hats.
Apart from that, I do enjoy the threads. I love seeing people dip their toes into "Better" coffee and be genuinely excited about their results.

>>16394965
What's a saggy tit hat?

>>16394982
I assume he means slouch beanies, which makes me sad cause I love and always wear these.

>>16394965
Get a real job and quit seething about it here

>>16393516
Benefit of easy data logging too. Def worth checking out. A few guys in the gcc love them.

I want to get a French press but I’m not sure what’s good. What are some things to look out for or brands to not get?

>>16387809
just buy a cream whipper, put cold brew in, fill with nitrous capsule(s), and shake
spending more money on a whole apparatus that will get you worse results is just stupid

>>16395227
dont

>>16394965
(((go back to /pol/ faggot)))
kill yourself
>>16394787
but with NO2 you get the wahwahwahwahwahwah effect and it makes phish sound better
>>16394016
I was thinking more if it's a reasonable excuse to purchase a tank of nitrous
>>16394244
I used to exclusively drink tea, now I'm mostly coffee. Taste preference changes/cycles

>>16395227
Just get a bodum, boroscillate's all the same and will eventually break

>>16395390
How much nitro coffee you planning on drinking?

A standard home size tank pumps about 80L. If youre homebrewing and serving stouts, then its probably worth it

>>16389527
underrated post

>>16395632
so moka pots are a meme right?
yeah its stronger but you also use like 5 scoops per basket instead of 3 for a coffee maker
not worth the effort of washing it desu though it better than a frogpresse for cleanup

Should I get my hopes up for this?

https://www.odysseyespresso.com/

>>16395764
consume coffee product. get excited for next coffee product

>>16395764
They're weeks behind schedule and are just going to get blown out by the upcoming londonium lever.

>>16395866
I've found plenty of end points for various things. Bought most of my drum set used, and I haven't modified it for years.

>>16395878
But that looks like it's going to be well over $800 they're aiming for the Odyssey.

>>16395957
And well worth it to be backed by a legitimate company, not a fly by night instagram schemes. I'm not saying its not coming to market, you just have to consider how long a low volume boutique product is going to stay available. I'm a big fan of the 9barista, but I wouldn't dream of ordering one without a few spare sets of seals. I don't think londonium is going anywhere.

>>16395957
thank you for posting your drum set in a coffee general

My Father-in-law's birthday is coming up and we're thinking of getting him some high-end coffee as a gift. Do you recommend any good variety sampler sets for him to try out?

Cawfee

>>16388729
You should switch to zyklon gas for your coffee

>>16389559
Get a really sweet latte. If you like that, build your way up to black coffee. I don't know what these other anons are talking about, virtually nobody likes the taste of black coffee the first time they try it, but that doesn't mean you can't acquire the taste (as is the case with many other bitter foods).

>>16395056
Ment nothing against you personally man, not all dudes who wear one of these is a douche, but every douche bag I've come across in coffee has at least one of these.

Keen to see everyone's thoughts on ristretto shots. These little bastards are criminally overlooked.

This is actually quite lovely.

>>16396398
Depends how much you want to spend and how much coffee he drinks.

The issue is that it's best when fresh so if you go and buy multiple bags then possibly by the time he's at the last one it isn't as good as it could have been. Maybe consider a monthly subscription instead.

What are your experiences with DW?

>drank 2 cups
>dizzy, sweating, heart palpitations
>room was spinning
>had to lie down

Don't think I can do it again, it was just too much.

>>16397369
I just got gifted a bag of this. No idea what to do with it.

>>16397369
Deathwish is kino cold brew, any other use is worthless

>>16397159
yeah they're not bad. I think it's bean-dependent. if your beans are too acidic, then without the backend of the shot to balance it with a little bitterness, the sourness could be overwhelming. I generally prefer darker-roast ristrettos. That said, I haven't had much experience with them, and what I have had has been pleasant so I'm open to change

Just enjoying a few cups of French press. Wtf bros. Why didn't I know this was so delicious? So simple to make as well.

>>16397384
Is it as strong as they suggest? Should I just follow standard cold brew ratios?

>>16397369
>preground
How strong can it even be?

>>16394965
That's enough to turn a man into having english tea.

>>16394965
>Falling for the make your passion your job meme

It doesn't make you love your job, it kills your passion.

>>16397474
Absolutely. I believe one of the problems with ristrettos, is that they have no real defined recipe. For a regular double espresso, you can safely toss out something like 35g and not raise too many eyebrows.
I've never come across any sort of recipe for a ristretto.

When I was initially trained in, they showed my what was described as "The three stages of espresso", them being sour, sweet, and bitter. Each stage lasting seven seconds and being timed from when the first coffee leaves the portafilters, not from when you turn the pump on. Obviously pre infusion will fuck with this, but you get the idea.
The guys showed me that a ristretto should be timed for 15 seconds, to extract all of the sourness, sweetness, and only a touch of bitterness. I find that final second of bitterness really does help the shot.
Right now, I'm playing around with a washed chelbesan from Ethiopia on espresso which normally tastes like orange, pear, and bergamot. But as a ristretto, gives you a really juicy cranberry.
I'd suggest you try a 15 second run time, and like I said earlier, don't time it from when the pump turns on, but from when it starts to leave the portafilters.

>>16397539
I actually had a chat yesterday about this with a guy studying film in collage. Once you're doing shit for money, it really does suck the fun out of it, because you now aren't doing it for fun, but rather because you have to. But I'm still happy out in my place. I enjoy the creativie freedom and the social aspect. I'm in Ireland, so spaces like pubs, and cafés also operate as social hubs moreso than in other countries. It's nice.

>>16397597
I ditched the hospitality industry and was much happier for it. There are things that I miss. Its great getting to play with truffles and foie gras. But overall its much nicer to keep cooking as a hobby and be paid 3 times what I was for half the hours

>>16396306
You're welcome

>>16396243
Yeah. I was thinking of modifying a used Pavoni to get a decent machine under a $1000. The Odyssey looks super simple and looks like it's made with a lot of commonly used parts though.

>>16397514
Its 80% robusta.
>>16398172
I'm not worried about getting extra steel parts machined, I'm worried about the control units they've posted on instagram. Not a fucking chance I'd have ordered a flair 58 if it was their first product. Knowing they're one of the only kickstarter campaigns with lasting success and generally decent support alleviated a bit of headache.

>>16387809
Today I had my coffee with some rum extract and vanilla extract poured on the grounds and some almond milk/ Irish creamer stirred in

>>16398917
>Rum extract

Why not just use rum?

>>16398934
I usually like to have my coffee early-mid day and that's too early to start drinking for me, although I have had alcoholic cream in my coffee before without much problem so maybe next time I'll try actual rum

>>16397478
v60 is better

>>16399212
V60 definitely has more clarity and is better to really get to understand the bean.

But French press was nice to just be able to make 3 cups in one go. It was the first time I'd made it with good fresh coffee. Great texture and full flavour without being sludgy.

Both have their place I think.

>>16399239
>Both have their place I think.
V60 on the counter, french piss in the trash

>>16399510
How much do they pay you lol
It can't be much.

>>16399586
french pisser detected

>>16397369
I made espresso with this and it wasn't anything special imo

>>16399925
>I don't like the French Press method of making coffee
Real opinion
>FRENCH PISSER LOL BUY V60 BUY V60 ITS THE ONLY WAY TO MAKE COFFEE YOU HAVE TO BUY A V60 BUY IT BUY IT, YOU HAVE TO BUY THIS ONE VERY SPECIFIC BRAND OF COFFEE MAKER OTHER DRIP MAKERS ARENT ANY GOOD IT HAS TO BE A V60
How much do they pay you? Simple question.

>>16400412
bud, youre french pissing ur pants right now

>>16400420
Just post the per post salary and there will be an end to this horror.

>>16400412
Take your meds
I made a french piss this morning, there was sludge in the cup and the cleanup sucks. I normally use a v60 or aeropress, but I'm sure other pourovers would mog the french press too.

>>16400443
You'd have to be a fucking moron to actually think hario advertises on a jamaican basket weaving forum.

For me, it's Folgers Simply Smooth, black

>>16397586
Yeah that makes a lot of sense. You can really taste that transition of flavour in espresso. Sounds fucking tasty though, I'll have to check it out

Making one cup of French press coffee for first time. How many table spoons of coffee do I put in? And don't tell me to weigh it, I don't have any scales.

>>16401783
Okay, I put two level tablespoons in, tasted good. I don't know if it's 1 or 2 tablespoons, leveled or heaped.

>>16401783
>>16401849
>table spoons
do french pissers really

I have coffee with pastries.
Mmmm... warm and sweet.

>>16387809
>from amazon
What kind of faggot uses amazon?

>>16401919
*sips*

Can I just drop caramel sauce in my coffee?

instant coffee is unironically better

>>16401935
it's a sweetener.

>>16401943
Check your taste-buds.

Thinking about picking this one up.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32898547120.html

Have some questions:
1. It says "CO2" all over the page. Can I use N instead? I don't know if it requires different equipment
2. After nitrogenating the coffee, can I leave this shit in the fridge for a month and it will stay under pressure?

please help me coffee autists

also, if there is a better bang for your buck coldbrew kit let me know

>>16402163
check yours after you get your head out of your ass

>>16403212
>>16402163
Instant coffee and regular coffee taste so different that you can even compare both. The weird thing is that both can taste really good. Some instant coffee from jpen or rea can be really tasty over ice.

>>16392401
>Boil water in bottom chamber first
>Add funnel and top chamber
>Highest heat on the stove, wait until coffee comes out
>Keep it on for precisely 4 seconds.
>Take it off the heat, let it finish brewing by itself.

>>16402907
answer me you faggots

>>16404681
Specialty coffee nerdery is a niche in food and beverage. Cold brew is a niche within coffee. Nitro cold brew is a niche within cold brew. You're gonna have to wait til someone sees that that knows what they're talking about and has an interest, anon.

>>16404703
can you just confidently give me whatever answer springs to mind so I can justify purchasing this to myself?

>>16404830
Believe in yourself anon, you can be the font of all knowledge for nitro cold brew in the CTG thread. You can be educating the newfags

>>16402907
For me it's the Toddy

>>16402907
You need a stout tap. This is different to a standard tap. A stout tap has a restrictor plate inside that forces liquid through tiny holes. As it is, that set up won't work for nitro coffee.

Yes you can leave it for an extended period of time. You may lose some pressurisation. Mine is normally fine over the course of a week. However, the quality of your coffee will probably deteriorate during that time.

>>16405388

https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32872383677.html

You need something like this. I didn't look around at other options but I'm sure you'll work it out and find the best deal

>>16405398
>>16405388
Thank you! Unfortunately, the chinamen want to charge me out the ass for shipping and get it here in August.

went with this
https://hb-brewing.myshopify.com/products/nitro-cold-brew-kit?variant=35640491770011
because it came out cheaper than the other one, 2 day free shipping, and I have very few friends so 64 oz size is probably enough for me. I like buying chinkshit when I can, but that shipping is insane.

>>16405169
have it with churros

ordered a flair neo, no upgrades because im not a pussy pressurised portafilter will do until I get my grail grinder (pic related)

I bought flavored coffee on accident, why do people drink this greasy shit instead of putting flavored cream in?

>>16406386
If you've got $3500 for a grinder, you can do better than a Flair Neo

>>16406448
my flatmates gf is a "coffee" person and that means she buys those dissolvable cappuccino sachets, she bought some biscoff flavoured instant coffee and one day i stole some and it was the most disgusting thing i have ever tasted

>took 1 sip
>almost threw up from smell, texture, taste
>dumped the entire mug in the bin

and this dumb whore expected me to waste some of my £17 per 250g coffee beans brewing her a decent cup

>>16406461
ye for sure, I haven't thought about it much but I like the idea of manual espresso makers, I guess my time with the neo will test that. If I still want a manual espresso maker I have no idea what a dream one would be but I do like the aesthetic of the ROK. obvs if money was no issue then I would get some god tier olympia or something

>>16406478
Worst part is not washing the not thoroughly enough and the next batch still has that greasy feel

>>16406478
>flatmate
>sachet
>biscoff
>flavoured
>bin
>£
your bong is showing anon

>>16406517
its coming home

>>16406478
>£17
>250g

Bloody hell lad. What was it and where from?

>>16406478
Nothing worse than a pretentious coffee person. I bet she’s never even used a french press or ever grounded coffee beans.

>>16406925
ye 100% she drinks gentrified bs teas made in a factory and buys vegan products cos she thinks shes helping the planet then drinks nescafe powdered cappuccinos every morning and calls herself a "coffee person". God i hate these paper straw bitches
>>16406915
Sey coffee lad, I used to have a montly sub with square mile but I hate south american coffees and I have no control over their monthly picks. I get that ethophia isnt in peak harvest season all year long but i just like the african coffees better

>>16406971
forgot to mention they might be hard to get from Sey themselves in the UK but luckily a local cafe near me stocks them

and this is the shit she drinks

>>16406971
I've just started a sub with Hasbean. Got my first coffee today which was a Kenyan. Lacked a bit of body for my taste but haven't yet made espresso with it.

Plan on trying out a few Squaremile though although it is quite pricey compared to others

>>16407000
Never heard of them but just had a look and it seems like really good value, that india coffee sounds really interesting might buy a bag.

Square mile was really good for me because I was just getting into coffee and the subscription let me try lots of different types and find what I liked. Especially being in the UK the freshness is unbeatable. A month or so before I left they also introduced post box friendly so I don't need to stay in all day waiting for the delivery, lovely stuff.

Workshop coffee is another option you check out got 2 bags from them and it was delish, they also have a good youtube channel for info

>>16406971
Best place to buy Sey? Also which ones would you recommend?

>>16407062
like i said here>>16406988

I wouldn't buy online if I was in the UK, best bet is you try find a local cafe that stock it like I did. Gonna have to visit the posh area of your city

>>16407073
>posh area in your city
LOL I’m a poortherner and live in some literally where rundown textile down. Looks like I’m never getting good coffee

>>16407074
Theres plenty of good roasters in the UK brother, just get a monthly subscription. Pretty sure royal mail deliver to all kinds of shitholes. Like I said square mile is super fresh and high quality coffee. They usually ship within 1 or 2 days of roasting and you usually dont want to brew straight after roasting so youre losing literally no quality if anything those few days improve the taste. They also start at 350g bags so you get a little more for your 13 great british pounds

>>16406386
I have to stop myself from ordering the key every day. I figure if I can get through a month long kickstarter without spending money, I deserve an eg1 next year.
>>16406971
I believe I get a random box of sey on monday when my standart gets here.

>>16407239
Not so enthusiastic for the KEY, watched a video from an actual real life NPC talking about it and the burrs are heavily espresso focused.

I'm just getting into espresso with the flair neo so I don't have a big enough obsession yet to justify an upgrade. Plus the price for a conical burr isnt too exciting for me.

It is sexy af, but then again what does weber make that isnt sexy

>>16407074
For their subscription service, Hasbean roast on a Friday and post the same day. You can decide how often you receive coffee and for each coffee there is a YouTube video giving some background and tasting notes.

Seems decent for £8 a bag which makes roughly 12-17 coffees.

>>16407272
Biggest conical burr flex you can get. 90% of the time I'm pulling shots on the 58 and I think it would be juuust nice enough to not make me want to drop an additional 1500 on the eg1. Maybe I'll just edge myself for a few years and get the eg2.

How much increase in quality are you expecting to get with a $3500 grinder vs (for example) a niche zero at 500 or a 1zpresso jx pro at 150?

>>16407419
I'm looking at replacing a $100 schiit dac with a $5000 holo may kte. Pretty sure they're both going to make noise. Whether or not my ears can perceive the difference, well I'll just have to spend the money and report back.

>>16407451
I guess I just don't buy in to the idea that espresso becomes an obsession like a lot of people seem to.

£10 on a cafetiere, £10 on a v60, £150 on a grinder and £200 on an espresso maker. I can't imagine wanting to buy any more than I already have and I'm not sure id get much else out of it.

>>16407474
I wouldn't call it an obsession in the slightest. I've got a $200 kinu and I'd be fine using it for the rest of its days. Espresso focused burrs, incredibly fine adjustment etc. I just think it would be fun to fuck around with a $200 grinder and a $3500 grinder and find out the difference for myself. I don't really see any "barista libraries" that will let met check one out for a few weeks. I'm not going to camp out in line for weeks like the iphone retards who will crack the screen a week later, so throwing $3500 at a pretty bulletproof top tier product I could likely sell for 3300+ if I don't like it seems fair. I've already broke my "buy once cry once" mentality by upgrading from a signature to a flair 58 so fuck it. $3500 isn't going to put me in the poor house, but I also don't care enough to go out and order one now, so I'm swimming in espresso limbo. Happy, but curious.

just use a $10 grinder from walmart you stupid nigger cattle it does the same exact thing

Best way to eat coffee beans?

>>16407419
you have to think of more than just the coffee quality when things become that expensive. If you're paying 3500 for a grinder everything should be perfect. of course nothing is perfect but im sure you get what i mean. Coffee it should make amazing coffee but theres other factors. Cleaning, burr access, workflow, materials, appearance.

>>16407388
Real gooner mindset, I would wait if you're happy with your current set up. Personally been edging for 3 years now til a decent folding phone comes out to invest, for now my S8+ is working fine so not too desparate

>>16407506
Pick some of this up while you're there brokeboy.

>>16407582
Define happy.

>>16407587
If you're asking then you're probably not happy enough with it to ignore the temptation of the key. Get the key and enjoy it

>she didnt like the coffee i made her

>>16387809
After try many many coffee's and brewing methods I found that the best coffee one can get is instant.

no money wasted on obscure brewing methods. no counter space to take up, consistent taste without all the bad tastes of brewed coffee.

>>16407599
dont waste ur precious beans on them anon

>>16407593
I was pretty happy before getting a "decent" espresso setup. Something something its about the journey, not the destination. Its not the temptation of the key I'm worried about, its the appeal of wanting to check out the fuss around flat burrs after one of the best conical burrsets. Ima get the salt and pepper shakers when I order either, so +600?

>>16407583
if you could afford a $3500 grinder you wouldn't be kvetching about the price
that's what? 3 months of your paychecks? you should really probably reconsider.

>>16407631
whats your current grinder? does the KEY have a RPM control? i cant remember. If it does I would say it would be cool to play with but ye the regret of missing out on flat burrs might be bad

>>16407641
That screenshot is a couple days old. Making ~28k a day. I just think I'd rather swim in depression with the hope of a future purchase making me happy, rather than spending the money and realizing I never gave a shit about it in the first place. Same reason I haven't bought a holo may and xiaudio formula s yet. Life is rough.
>>16407668
Yeah its got an rpm dial.

>>16407605
>no money wasted on obscure brewing methods. no counter space to take up, consistent taste without all the bad tastes of brewed coffee.
Try cold brew. You get all of these benefits without the inherent shittiness of instant coffee. The simpler the method the better the coffee. Simple as. Cold brew being as simple as making coffee gets.

>>16406971
Had that green one, thought it tasted a bit...grassy. What about you?

>>16407998
not had that one, just got the image from google. best one i've had was defo yabitu koba

Had a relatively cheap grinder from Costco and it has been nothing but trouble for me over the time I've had it. I recently got into Bones Coffee. I like their blends a lot, but their beans are too oily for this grinder to handle and the thing starts heating up like it's going to explode. I need a new grinder and would like some recommendations. I am the only coffee drinker in the household. I brew with a Hario V60 and use their 7 cup carafe so I never need to make more coffee than that at any one time. I want one that lets me easily pick the grind size for it to get the beans at (I really don't like the grinders where you have to somewhat eyeball it and stop when you're satisfied) and I want it to provide a nice uniform grind. I would prefer something below $100 if possible. Needs to be electric of course. It doesn't have to be on Amazon though I do have Prime so that is an added convenience not to mention their customer service is hassle-free.

And as an aside, what do you folks think about Bones Coffee? Does anyone know how they are able to make their beans? They seem to have some sort of potent addition to them to give it the flavor, but they claim they don't use any allergens or artificial sweeteners.

>>16408200
no

>>16408200
>Does anyone know how they are able to make their beans?
Its a blend of arabica and robusta, just like death wish. If its too oily for your (shitty) grinder, its roasted to fuck. You're not going to find something under 100. Just buy a fellow ode.

>>16408200
I have the OXO conical burr grinder. It gets the job done, that is to say it's decent, but I'd like to upgrade. I'd say either you up your budget or accept a hand grinder if you want something nice.

>>16408200
>too oily
Have you considered a hand-cranked grinder?

>>16401919
>>16406307
Sometimes you just wanna coffee

Two shots of a Honduran natural for breakfast. Pretty good lads.

>>16401783
holy fuck you pleb go back to tea cuck general

>>16409131
sure thing retard

>>16409063
Are they better at dealing with oily beans? I used to have a JavaPresse hand grinder and I honestly hated it. It took forever to grind through the beans (I brew with two scoops *from the aeropress scooper* worth of coffee beans) and it broke down on me and wouldn't work again even after I took it apart to try to fix it. I don't mind getting one, but I would need it to be able to actually grind beans at a good rate and be decent quality. I also hated how the only way to adjust size of grinds on it was via turning a dial that had absolutely no markings on it to help tell you what size you would be working with. Instead they suggested it based off of turns, as in turn it 3 times for X sized grind.

>>16409321
The difference between a cheap hand grinder and a quality one is night and day. Get a 1zpresso or something. Timemore c2 is pretty decent if you want to save some cash. If you really want to go electric and you're in europe i've heard that wilfa svart is a pretty good electric grinder and it fits your budget. Maybe a Baratza encore if you're in the US.

>>16409131
Why is there always this retarded tribalism between Coffee and Tea drinkers? I've never understood this retarded binary. It's even dumber than regular fanboyism because at least there's a brand to be loyal to there. You are professing your undying loyalty to a bunch of fucking beans or leaves. They don't care. Your Coffee beans literally do not give a shit if you drink Tea too. You are subscribing to meaningless bullshit and denying yourself an entire range of beverages because of braindead dogmatism.
I'm going to straight up say it - grow up.

>>16409504
Boring, bored people need things to talk about, too. Holy shit get over yourself.

>>16409504
Based pasta, boy.

>>16387976
what's the brand pal? fellow ukfag interested in picking one up

What is the undisputed best way to make a cup of coffee?

Any advice for cold brewing?

>>16410320
It's ikegger. It's in Germany I think but delivers to UK. Things might have changed since Brexit.

https://ikegger.eu/products/nitro-kaffee-faesser?variant=8352810041447

I would suggest trying Malt Miller or Dark Farms for UK but I think they are more expensive.

>>16410372
espresso

>>16410372
Turkish

>>16410372
mr. coffee drip machine with preground folgers

>>16390186
>If you don't like raw meat, you don't like meat

Thoughts on the Baratza Encore? I just want a decent electric grinder that won't break on me after six months of grinding oily beans.

>>16411338
lol

The more I ponder, I come to the realization coffee is rather foul. Tastes like shit, makes my sweat smell like shit and feel oddly sticky, and makes me shit. This basically sounds like a poison if you weren't already Stockholmed in to loving the hyper bean water.

>>16412252
for you

>>16412254
For all. Believe it or not the human tongue is not so different from person to person.

>>16412259
Odd you would say that. Your mother seems to prefer my tongue over anyone else's.

ok now this is epic

>>16411338

>>16412252
Poor genetics cope: the post
You might be lactose intolerant, have you considered it's the milk in your Coffee fucking you up?

>>16412267
Fucking lol

>>16412814
Those are all normal traits of coffee, not sure why you think that.

>>16413191
I think tens of millions, probably billions, of people rely on a cup of Coffee to start their morning and get them through the day. I think there are a ton of premium, delicacy blends and dozens of ways to brew Coffee with nobody truly agreeing on the best way.
I think that you are one genetically inferior retard who can't handle shitty coffee beans.
Those are my thoughts, for you. If you haven't had a premium Coffee, try drinking genuinely good Coffee. If you have, then I'm sorry for your loss.

>>16396710
lmao

>>16410372
Coffee beans + hot water
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZgrmIQh60s

Should I buy a Niche tomorrow when the US stock comes back in for October delivery?

>>16412252
>buy garbage product harvested by slaves in a shithole sweatshop-tier farm in Vietnam, "dark roasted" (burned to shit), preground, sat on a shelf for 4 weeks before being purchased, brewed with a cheap piece of shit machine
>wtf why does this taste bad?????? how can this be happening to me???????
Get the fuck out of this thread you autistic faggot

>>16414838
You should buy a weber key for october delivery.

I've got a javapress hand grinder, any my pours always wind up too fast or too slow. Preground stuff pours fine, but I can never grind it right myself.

bought the bean envy cold brewer, made coffee with the recommended grind amount, way too strong, cut it down to about 45% recommended amount (fresh ground).... ahhhh. perfect. so much oils preserved by not using hot water you can see them floating on top.

>>16397369
>experiences with DW

>>16415251
>so much oils preserved by not using hot water you can see them floating on top.
Or you know, thats how stainless filters work. No paper to catch those oils...

To the brits who were talking about sey coffee, I just got a code for 50% off their subscription for the first month. I just had 35g of their ethiopian wate gogugu and it was pretty fucking based. Light, fruity, a bit floral. I might snag a month to see what they send out.

Tapering off coffee, currently on 10g of beans a day, down from 80g. Thanks for reading my blog.

>>16415443
Can you even make a coffee with 10g?

>>16415471
Yeah, with an aeropress

>>16415383
i've used a stainless (mesh) filter before but it was too fine and didn't work like that at all

>>16415665
If you skimmed a cotton ball across the surface of the coffee, what do you think would happen?

>>16415819
If I skimmed my balls across the surface of your coffee, what do you think would happen?

>>16387809
I have one that was like $200 and it works great

>>16415947
We both know they don't hang that low breh.

>>16410372
for your loved ones

Jut got 3 pounds of a cheap local brand for about 5-6 bucks, cheapest one after that one was about 3 bucks a pound, am i gonna die?

>>16414838
yes sounds comfy

I'm getting more of a seared bite on the Aeropress, than I'm getting on the actual V Six- no no no no no no no no.... No please don't say that no no no... No. Nonononono. No no nono no no. NONO NO NONO NO NO NOOOOO. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm not gonna trip. I wanted to come in a 100% hater.

I'mma tell you off the top. I wanted to take a sip of this and be like 'ehhh nah nah it don't it it'- I'mma just flat out say it; your Aeropress /ck/, IS BETTER THAN YOUR ACTUAL V SIXTY /CK/. YOUR AEROPRESS /CK/ IS BETTER THAN YOUR ACTUAL V SIXTY /CK/. IT HAS A MORE SEARED TASTE.

IT'S MORE OF A BREWOUT FLEX. IT JUST TASTES BETTER. Get over here. You get back in the cabinet. /ck/. That sip is so flavorful my m- and the fact that it works so well, it literally compliments the aroma. Like I'm not even mad that I'm sippin' up, and I'm not even mad, that I'm sipping coffee right now with my breakfast.

You can really taste the chocolate notes because the sear, on this press based situation right here, it's so strong and you barely get nutty notes but the notes are there so you get a crunch off it, with soft fruity action with BPA? /CK/, YOU'RE ONTO SOMETHING, AND I LIKE WHERE YOU, YOU GOIN' /CK/, THE AEROPRESS COFFEE SON!

>>16416059
I dunno, man. The older I get here.

>>16416201
based

>>16416204
Prolly blow those knees out trying to squat that far down too.

>moka pot on stove
>milk in ibrik

Simple as.

>>16416372
you forgot
>dildo in ass

>>16416402
Of course, big black v3.0, extra large

Will my cold brew taste good if I carbonate it?

>>16415251
>so much oils preserved by not using hot water you can see them floating on top
Based retard

>>16416542
Probably not. Cold brew already tastes like shit and is objectively inferior to any hot brewing method and carbonating it would add a lot of bitterness.

>>16416542
Probably. Try making some concentrate and pour it into tonic water. Maybe a bit of honey to cut the tonic?

Well lads my French press broke after like 8 years of service.
Im looking through all the Bodum French presses and there are a ton—is there any difference really between all these? Or is it just aesthetics?
My old one was apparently a Brazil which appears to be shitty but it always was great for me

>>16416678
I'm going to look at Bodum presses with you. I'll tell you what I think in a bit.

Got a moka pot today. First try, cold water, mid heat. Drinkable, but too acidic. Took it off the stove too early. Second one, cold water, low heat. Left it longer. Better, but somehow tasted papery? Stale? I don't know how to describe it. Will try with hot water, then with more coffee, then with less water, which I read can make it noticeably stronger. I'm using what I believe to be a somewhat old mid-low roast, which I'm sure doesn't help, but is what I had on hand.

>>16416678
>>16416684
Get the CHAMBORD®. It's the classiest, imo.

>>16416678
1. Why would you ever buy a french press when the V60/kalita wave/chemex exist at the same price point
2. Why would you ever buy a glass french press when they make solid stainless steel ones

>>16416751
Why can't you let the guy like what he likes?

>>16416678
>>16416684
One of you needs to buy this motherfucker and report back.

https://www.espro.com/catalog/french-press/coffee-p7

>>16416678
I just got a Bodum press. Its a 4 cup Kenya. What I would say is the number of cups they say it makes is based on a very small cup. The 4 cup that I got can handle about 500ml.

Overall its fine. I quite like the short squat design of it. Quality wise there is nothing that would make it worth £40 which is what they have it in their website for. It was on sale when I bought it for £10 though so it's good for that price

>>16413869
Coffee time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRSS0VBV99c

are there any decent bean to brew machines under 1000 bucks? i am an incredibly lazy person and am tired of french press, dont like moka pot coffee.
or just a regular coffee machine with decent beans?

>>16407583
>Colombia's Shame
kek

>>16392401
Just take it off the heat when it's about halfway done with the brewing process.

>>16413869
>>16417283
Thank you for reminding me why I never visit this shithole of a general. You would honestly get better information about coffee from fucking reddit than you would here. It's a shame because people in the tea general are actually very knowledgeable but everyone here seems to be a complete retard.

>>16418526
He says, while contributing absolutely nothing but tears.

Is it worth it to buy whole beans over pre-ground?

>>16418875
No. Grinding coffee yourself is a meme. Go to the store and get the shittiest quality, oldest preground from a megacorporation's slave farms that you can find because it tastes exactly the same as freshly ground high quality coffee from an actual roaster co-op.

>>16418526
This is general coffee discussion, not a fucking Q&A forum. If you got a question, go to reddit then. Everyone here is just chilling out.

>>16416696
New attempt today. More ground coffee, hot water, medium-low heat. Better and faster, but that weird taste is still there. It's probably the coffee.

I have a little Bialetti Moka Express. I love lattes. I love milk. I hate that coffee is hot for so long. By the time it cools so I can drink it, its only at that temperature for about 15 minutes.


What do I do?

I also don't care for cold coffee.

>>16418907
A "general coffee discussion" full of people who know jack shit about coffee posting about meme garbage like javapresse grinders, moka pots, etc. Like I said, it's entirely different to /tea/ where people know what they are talking about and there are only a few shitposters trying to bait with posts about Twinings or whatever. This is an entire thread of poor bait. What could you possibly gain from discussion in a thread where the average poster can't tell the difference between preground and freshly ground? What happened to the old /ctg/ where we had posters like the Kinufag and the Decentfag?

>>16418875
I would say fresh coffee has more "flavor" generally, but to be honest I could rarely tell the difference between something I ground immediately or a few days. The best part about whole bean is that if you have a decent grinder, you can adjust the taste to your liking. If the coffee comes out weak, you can grind finer. If it's too bitter, you can grind coarser.
>>16418967
The tea thread is boring as shit to the average person who doesnt have a clue about tea, whereas coffee is more assessible.
>>16418964
Americano with room temperature water? Or brew moka coffee and add milk from the fridge.

>>16418967
What would you like to discuss?

>>16419026
I don't really want to discuss anything in particular, I just want to gatekeep. I just bought the Niche Zero so maybe discuss that.

>>16418967
Yeah this thread needs more roast logs and espresso pressure profile graphs like the good old days

>>16419060
Yes, it does. I'm not sure what kind of point you are trying to make. I would much rather see some interesting OC data gathered by autists than I would some normalfaggots asking how to brew with a moka pot for the 50th time.

>>16419064
Wheres your OC data?

>>16418964
Use colder milk?

>>16419064
The real coffee autists hang out on home barista, go there. The tea thread is only "good" because tea is more accessible to neets on disability and appeals to weebs.

>>16419099
I don't have a Decent?

>>16418967
>Kinufag
I'm still around, I just quit shilling them since they were virtually unavailable for 18 months. I haven't seen the decent guy since I made fun of him for making espresso tonics.
>>16419060
Pretty sure that was just me and the canadian chick. I can post some SEP logs off the flair 58 if you want, but its old stumptown beans since its too hot outside to roast.
>>16419116
The real autists are on EAF discord. HB gets meme'd on constantly.

>>16419208
>>Kinufag
Punished Lido buyer here. I'm the one who bought the Niche. If it's bad I'm going to kill myself.

fucking huemonkeys, and their weird coffee processing ways.

>>16419315
rip. Hope you like it. I've still got 9 days to sit on my nuts before ordering the key. Old stumptown hundred mile. Low preheat, 185f. I was getting nothing but old beans at higher temps, but this is surprisingly fruity and enjoyable for being 6 weeks old. Need to dial back the grind or the dose just a touch, but even with an extended shot time I'm still not disappointed. Levers are fucking magic.

>>16419208
>general is replaced with a discord full of zoomers seething about old forums
Classic

first time making espresso ever today with a flair. i went full retard:
1st try: portafilter was upside down, water sprayed everywhere
2nd try: see first try
3rd try: turned portafilter right side up. pulled the shot and barely got any bars of pressure for the pre-infusion and maxed out at 5 bars for a total duration of only 20 seconds or so

im using a kinu grinder at a setting of 1.9. how the fuck do i pull a 9 bar espresso shot

>>16419424
Somehow its way more focused discussion than people necroing 9 year old threads about pavonis and bodum bistros.

>>16419441
Whats your dose and which flair? There are a few different baskets now. I'd grind finer/up your dose until the machine chokes, then back off from there.

>>16419454
15g using the flair signature. i'll try going finer and use maybe 16-17g.

>>16419441
It happens. Its all about getting your grinder tuned in. Ive been using a new grinder with my Flair for about 2 weeks now and today having previously made a French Press, my first shot took a minute and just wouldnt pull even at 9+ bars, the second shot took about 10 seconds and didnt make it past 2 bars.

Got back to where I needed to be just about on the third attempt.

>>16419460
15g is plenty. You can get really good shots with 15g. Id suggest only changing one variable at a time.

>>16419460
Report back. Even bumping up a half gram will drastically change the puck density. I was at like 2.2 @ 17g on a kinu and the old signature basket. Pulling between 25 and 35 second shots. Shoot for under 2 bars until you get the puck hydrated and dripping, then lean into it. 9 bars is just a reference point, you can pull fantastic shots at much lower pressure, provided you're aware of your other variables.

>>16419509
Can you comment on pre-infusion (on a Flair Signature)? Whats your standard technique once you have added the water?

Im not sure if I should wait some time before applying any pressure, start applying gentle pressure straight away, start applying full pressure straight away etc.

>>16419478
>>16419509
thanks for the tips. i'll try again tomorrow

>>16419545
Preinfusing was basically necessary on the taller, skinnier baskets(compared to wider standard 58mm baskets). You're gently letting the water hydrate the puck. ANY pressure over 0 bars will make this happen. Water in, plunger in, pull gently until the first drips hit your cup, then ramp it up. You don't need to pull from .5bar to 9, you can gradually ramp up the pressure. The entire point of a manual lever is this variability, so just experiment. If your grinder is new, don't get stuck with the idea
>this number pulled good shots before, I can't understand why its not working now
Those burrs are gradually breaking in, the freshly milled cutting edges are slowly rolling over. I'm actually pretty sure I was at ~1.9 when my m47p new out of the box, but over a few weeks I settled into the 2.2ish range.

anything wrong with using those metal filters for pour over?

Ive been using instant coffee from trader joes but Im kinda sick of it, it just doesnt taste good.

Im thinking an electric kettle + that is the cheapest way to get decent light roast coffee. Probably start with ground coffee, then get a grinder later if I actually use it a lot.

Also, Im in boston, so Im spoiled for choice in terms of fancy single origin coffee spots, but if you guys know any good light roasts, Im all ears.

>that retard who likes his coffee acidic
Holy shit, enjoy your vomit water

>>16387809
I bought a cheap "moka" coffee pot for 3 USD because I saw one on sale, looks like >>16392401 and for the first cup I made, I used a relatively fine-medium coarse ground and it tastes really fruity. It's not thick like espresso usually is, but it tastes good to me.
Any tips on making coffee with it? I don't have a ton of money to throw around so stuff like a v60 is off the table for me, but I do want to try out some different methods with this thing.

>>16420127
>I don't have a ton of money to throw around so stuff like a v60 is off the table for me
You can't afford $15 for a quality product but you will gladly pay $3 for chinkshit knockoffs of already bad products? What the fuck is wrong with poor people?

>>16420134
>a gooseneck kettle is $15
give link faggot

>>16420127
coffee has to come out as slowly as possible without channeling, so go a little bit finer every brew until you get channeling, then go back one setting coarser

>>16420176
>moving the goalposts
Poorfag cope kek

>>16420176
Why do people think they need a gooseneck kettle? When did all of this ridiculous gearfaggery for the most dead simple brewing method happen anyway?

>>16420301
Was it youtube bullshit artists trying to sell shit? Why is everyone so stupid now?

>>16420134
Yeah
I'd rather get a mediocre but cheap product before I buy an expensive and good product and invest into it

>>16419724
Nah, it'll just be a different cup compared to a paper or cloth filter. Just get a plastic v60 and try shit out until you're happy. Could spend a bit more for a hario switch. I could see that working well with preground for a while.

The stainless steel washer thing on the end of my mueller french press is missing. Is there an equivalent I can use that doesn't involve getting a whole new set of replacement parts?

>>16420798
Washer or nut?
In such cases I usually take the thinger with me to the hardware store and go through all thr drawers until I find one that fits. SS selection is smaller, but sometimes you get lucky.

>>16420933
Yeah its a nut my bad. I'll try that out, sounds hopeful. Thanks man!

>>16416568
>Cold brew already tastes like shit and is objectively inferior to any hot brewing method
I will find you and rape your bussy

>>16420942
You may not find the nut you need in stainless, but you can probably use regular steel just fine for a little while. Once you know the exact size of the thing you need you can order one online from a fastener store for like a dollar or two.

>>16420950
>no argument

>>16421056
That bussy ain' gon' argue wit me either boy

>>16419724
I had a metal one for a while, it eventually clogged and stalls every brew now even after cleaning religiously, i.e. soaked in white vinegar and scrubbed, covered in baking soda paste and scrubbed, regular soap, etc. Made good coffee while it lasted!

Does anyone have tips on how to clean those fucking things?

>>16420199
more like your're poore

>>16419208
I was posting videos of shots I pulled on my flair for a while. Just got a new grinder (1zpresso JE-Plus) so if people are interested in seeing a progression of me dialing it in I could start making webms again
>>16419060
I don't have a profiler but could set up a camera to watch my flair pressure gauge and then extract the info and plot in python if there's any interest, but that might be too autistic even for me.

Anyway, I've been enjoying the shots I've been getting, and when I pull one I don't like, I just make an americano and have a stroopwafel with it to counteract the bitter/sour

lol
French vaccination so that they can go to cafes.

>>16421730
A few people have beat you to it.

https://smathermather.com/2020/05/25/gauging-the-best-way-to-combine-deep-learning-and-coffee/