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16343999 No.16343999 [Reply] [Original]

where did the idea of specific breakfast foods come from? literally anything is a breakfast food.
if I want to eat a fucking steak for breakfast, I'm going to eat a fucking steak.

>> No.16344001

>>16343999
trips demand answers people

>> No.16344005

>>16343999
probably geographic variability including climate which affected how things stay as leftovers and also seasonal availability of items. carbs were popular because they provided long term sources of energy and were usually widely available in agricultural societies.

>> No.16344010

>>16344005
okay so why was steak for dinner

wouldn't it be

wheat breakfast
wheat lunch
wheat dinner

once in a blue moon steak for lunch?

>> No.16344013
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>>16343999
took me a while to get my mind out of the gutter and see what was actually going on in that thumbnail

>> No.16344019

>>16344010
what societies had steak for breakfast? most nations still have light breakfasts of carbs or something because you're literally breaking your fast and regulating your metabolism for the rest of the day. also meat for breakfast would more often be in the form of fish or chicken or something easier to butcher fresh and cook faster. stop being a fucking retard american

>> No.16344026

>>16344010
Historically speaking steak wasn't for dinner. Daily consumption of meat is fairly modern unless you were of an upper class. It usually was carbs for dinner just like breakfast. Any meat that was eaten in any regular amount would have been fish and you didn't have that for breakfast because you haven't caught it yet.

>> No.16344031

>>16344010
most of the world eats more vegetables and carbs and protein in the form of dairy or legumes than meat

>> No.16344032
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16344032

breakfast steak is the best kind of steak

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>>16344019
how dare you

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>>16344031
>eats more vegetables and carbs and protein in the form of dairy
>vegetables
>in the form of dairy

>> No.16344053

>>16344042
That's some pretty shitty reading comprehension, anon. If you're trolling you should have picked a different image.

>> No.16344057

>>16344053
The sentence was slightly awkward so I made a joke about it. Not everything is trolling.

>> No.16344060

Stable breakfast food tends to cook quicker than most other food.

>> No.16344062

>>16344057
Yes, there should have been a comma after, "carbs", but if you know anything about basic nutrition that should have been obvious.

>> No.16344063

>>16344053
>Let's eat grandma
>Let's eat, grandma
Comma's save lives.

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>>16344063
>comma's save lives
And inappropriate apostrophes put me in the mood to murder.

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>>16344060
so like hay?

>> No.16344073

>>16344062
Hey there buster, why yah gotta be so revved up over this little man's grammer based joke. Let a brother have some fun for heck's sake.

>> No.16344074

>>16344063
incorrect apostrophes, however, don't

>> No.16344079

>>16343999
Edward Bernays, the man behind propaganda was hired to make bacon and eggs a staple breakfast and look where we're at now. Also marketed cigarettes as liberty torches, and worked with the elites back then as well. So in short because they marketed and convinced you to.

>> No.16344081

>>16344073
>I can have free speech but you can't

>> No.16344087

>>16344073
This is /ck/. We have to get mad about something.

>> No.16344091
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>>16344067
it's possessive though

>> No.16344093

>>16344081
>I can have free speech but you can't
oh fuck it's recursive

>> No.16344112

>>16344091
I have a graduate degree that involved reading a lot of German philosophy. I'm also very drunk. Can you explain how "commas" are somehow possessive of "save"? Serious question.

>> No.16344114

>>16344087
Fair enough and possibly based.

>>16344081
'Twas but merely a ponderance m'boy.

>> No.16344121

>>16344112
i meant plural

>> No.16344128

>>16344121
Plurals don't use apostrophes, though. That's why I didn't include one when I quoted you.

>> No.16344135

>>16344026
>daily consumption of meat was uncommon
Stop spreading this lie, medieval europe ate a shitton of meat, particularly chicken and pork. What they did not eat regularly was beef.

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>>16344128
why would you? those are just numbers

>> No.16344142

>>16344026
Also the poor historically almost never ate fish because bodies of water were the property of landlords and royals aka it was considered poaching.

>> No.16344150

>>16344136
You've lost the plot, anon. We're talking Y-axis.

>> No.16344157

>>16344136
Holy mother of all crams. Could this be the mecca for all devout crammers? The grandest and greatest cram any cramming aficionado strives to cram? A journey worth a lifetime of cramming. A cram to end all crams.

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>>16344150

>> No.16344171

Eggs are breakfast food because back when people had chickens, you'd go get the eggs first thing in the morning and it made sense to just crack a few in the pan. Same with milking a cow

>> No.16344177

Things with high energy that cook fast and are on-hand. Most breakfast trends come from farmers who needed the high energy for the work day.

>> No.16344274

People keep giving historical reasons why their great grandma ate certain things in the morning, but that's completely irrelevant in this day and age. I'll eat liverwurst on rye or some leftover Taco Bell with a mug of vodka right after waking up and feel better than eating eggs/bacon/oatmeal/waffles/whatever first thing in the morning.

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>>16344274
>mug of vodka

>> No.16344356

Only time I'll drink alcohol in the morning is when I'm forced to visit my family. Can't get through Christmas without some half hot chocolate half vodka.

>> No.16344363

>>16344010
I mean yeah that was the standard for hundreds of years

>> No.16344526

>>16344344
>he doesn't know the joy of shotgunning a 4 pack of stolen Bud Ice in the Dollar General shitter at 7:30 in the morning

>> No.16344534

>>16343999
>if I want to eat a fucking steak for breakfast, I'm going to eat a fucking steak.
Which you can do in any one of the thousands of restaurants serving steak and eggs. It's not uncommon.

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>>16344526
i never said i haven't drank stolen liquor in the morning

>> No.16345599

>>16343999
Anything can be any meal. What the fuck are your on about? Whether it is breakfast, lunch, or dinner is dependant solely on when you eat something, and since people have to eat to survive...

>> No.16346397

>>16344135
>Medieval people
>Eating chicken
Only the most richest people ate chicken because you would basically end your source of eggs, not worth it in the long run

>> No.16346787

>>16343999
From the fact that there's no time for plebs to make a fucking steak in the morning. Breakfast foods are optimized to be quick and convenient.

>>16346397
Except chickens would occasionally die on their own and then it made sense to eat them. Before some faggot asks about how cows would die too, chickens were more numerous and died more often, and a dead cow was more valuable to sell.

>>16344142
This varied by locality and there was no standard rule, and also you're ignoring the ocean, which a lot of poor people lived near.

>> No.16347587

>>16346787
>eat a shit ton of meat, particularly chicken
That's not what eating a chicken only when it dies of old age means

>> No.16347835

>>16346397
chickens were so plentiful, and so worthless, they didn't even keep proper accounting of how many were owned, just that they had them.

>> No.16347845

>>16343999
Like literally everything else in our society, mid-century American marketing campaigns and lobbying

>> No.16347935

>>16344079
/thread

>> No.16347970

>>16347587
>Only the most richest people ate chicken
This was your claim.
>most richest
Trying to imitate the literacy of a medieval peasant?

Also, most roosters can be eaten at any time. All chickens would eventually die, so only those that were lost, died in such a way as to become inedible, or sold would be unavailable for meat. Your "source of eggs" argument is basically worthless.

>> No.16348185

>>16344067
what did the nips mean by this?

>> No.16348196

>>16343999
If i was rich i would eat a lot more steak, but never for breakfast. Special food should be treated as special lest they become boring.

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>>16344033
I miss it so much bros

>> No.16348239

>>16343999
dont know but what i do know is my government tell me to eat boatloads of fat, sugar and carbs for breakfast and because they tell me its healthy, IT IS!

>> No.16348248

>>16343999
Because most breakfast foods are quick to make.

>> No.16348978

>>16344142
fucking bullshit
hunting was considered poaching but every peasant had access to fish because of jebus

>> No.16349594

>>16344026
Historically speaking, complex carbohydrates were not extremely more abundant than meat until widespread agriculturalism, which is pretty modern. Few races have evolved to live off of grains and those that have have had agricilture for around 10,000 years.

>> No.16349603

>>16343999
Babbys first philosophical thought

>> No.16349616

>>16346397
you can always eat roosters lmao

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>>16346397
chickens eggs laying drops off a cliff after about three years. 50% of chickens hatched are roosters. Thats a lot of fucking chicken to eat.

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>>16349630

>> No.16349719

>>16343999
If I had to guess for modern breakfast it has something to do with agricultural life when you would wake up early in the morning milk the cow collect the chicken eggs and bake some bread for the day so might as well use all 3 in the morning when they are most freshly brought in. But shit like oatmeal and other gruels was just because it was something simple and easy to make enough of to feed your whole family in the morning cheaply for all of human history

>> No.16349791

>>16343999
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_breakfast
You lazy ass bastard. You don't deserve me.

>> No.16349798

>>16349791
>mobile website

>> No.16349805

what the fuck is breakfast. I eat two meals a day. One small one in the evening, and one giant one immediately before sleep, how we evolved to eat.