/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Yes.

if you eat japanese rice often, yes.

>>16292820
only buy one if you cook rice literally 3 or 4 times a week.
you can get acceptable results with a cup or two of rice into a large microwave bowl, three cups of water per cup of rice, and cook it for 11 minutes on high.

>>16292868
>you can get acceptable results with a cup or two of rice into a large microwave bowl, three cups of water per cup of rice, and cook it for 11 minutes on high.
I guess we have vastly different definitions for the word "acceptable"

>>16292820
I bought a nice one years ago and have zero regrets. If you eat rice somewhat often, do it.

>>16292867
is the induction model worth it?

Not worth it at all.

>>16292915
Not unless you're picky.

standard micom model will get you the majority of the performance.

IH just makes it a bit more consistent throughout the entire batch.

The more advanced multiple IH coil models (which you can't get easily in the US currently) take this another step further but are very expensive.

>>16292820
I mean if you’re too inept to cook rice any other way, sure.

>>16292820
Only if you eat rice so often that it justifies its space use. If you are as of the nip and eat rice like 6 times a week, sure, but if you are half compotent and maybe eat rice like twice a week, a pot is completely fine.

Only if rice is such a staple part of your diet that cooking it quick is a significant plus to your daily life. Otherwise, its kind of a waste since a pot does the same thing, but slower.

>>16292980
>does the same thing
Good rice in a good high end rice cooker tastes better than that same rice in a pot.

If all you buy is budget-tier rice, it wont really matter though.

>>16292820
q: how much rice do to eat on a weekly basis?
are you living alone or a family?
Doytou actually have the yuans to pay for it?
Or is it for shows?

>>16292991
regardless. If you only use it rarely, its hard to justify the purchase, unless you have a hole burning in your pocket (though most rice cookers arent that expensive), and you have the extra space.

I do agree about good rice cooker+good rice being of higher quality. But again, unless you are a rice freak, or an Asiatic, it just seems like a waste.

>>16293000
>q: how much rice do to eat on a weekly basis?
Everyday (I eat the same meals every weekday/weekend)
>are you living alone or a family?
Alone, but my meals are big (twice a day meals)
>Doytou actually have the yuans to pay for it?
Yes but it's £349.99 on amazon, I want to know if I'm getting scammed or not price wise and if there's a cheaper one that does everything the same or better (I'm looking at Zojirushi NS-YSQ18)
>Or is it for shows?
no shows, only food now

>>16293089
If you're in the UK, get a yumasia rice cooker.

The zojirushi models that are legally allowed for sale in europe are all a decade old or older models.

>>16293104
What would be the best one to get? I mainly eat japonica rice.
Also I'm assuming then that the yumasia ones are better than zojirushi, or are there zojurushi that are better but only available in Japan? I don't mind the money I just want to be able to buy the best one and be done with it and not get scammed like I did with a pressure cooker.

>>16293118
The zojirushi's sold in the US/Canada/Korea/Japan are all 1-2 generations ahead of what they sell in europe.

None of their current models are certified to meet EU electrical standards, which is why they don't get imported there for resale, because you can't resell them without proper certifications on the device.

I wouldn't say the Yumasia models are BETTER than the zojirushi models you can get elsewhere in the world, but I do think they are better than the zojirushi models you can buy in the UK, and much cheaper.

And i'd get either of the two IH models, the Fuji or the Bamboo.

>>16293118
>or are there zojurushi that are better but only available in Japan?
Zoji is arguably better, but probably not drastically.
But Europe isn’t enough of a market for them to sell voltage-converted versions of their current models.
So the Zoji’s available in Europe are models from about 10 years ago.
If you want a current Zoji you’ll either have to have one shipped from Japan or the US, as well as get a proper power converter for it.

I love my Zoji, but if I lived in UK/Europe I’d go with YumAsia.

>>16293139
Just out of interest if I was to take a trip to japan/korea and bring back a zojirushi with me, which would be the best?
>>16293144
Well if it's not that much of a difference then I'll just get a yumasia one. It's just I posted the model in OP because I remember I ate some of the best brown rice when I visited a Japanese colleague and she had that model, so I want to recreate that quality.

>>16293169
>which would be the best?
The “best” ones on the domestic Japanese market are insanely expensive.
Pic is the best Zoji from last time I went to this store in Osaka.

>>16293104
>legally allowed for sale in europe
a-are there ILLEGAL rice cookers in europe?

>>16293169
You would likely be fine using a korean model that has the 220v/60hz conversion done to it. Which is fairly close to the UK electrical standard of 230v/50hz, though you will need a plug converter, the actual device itself should still run just fine on that electrical system.

Japan itself uses 100v 50 or 60hz so if you buy a domestic japanese model zojirushi you'd need to buy an expensive converter to properly run it in the UK.

>>16292820
Best purchase I ever made that wasn't a coffee grinder (also pictured)
Then again I love rice and eat it with nearly every meal, and you kinda need to to justify it

>>16293204
nvm, read a comment further down explaining electical standards.

>>16293204
Not CE certified.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CE_marking

>>16293195
>99,700
I'm assuming that's the full price in yen so £650 then, how much of this is just marketing gimmick and release price or is it actually worth for the quality and technology?
>>16293211
And the korean models are all up to date too? If so that would be the way to go once this lockdown shit is over.
>>16293216
>coffee grinder
How is it? I usually drink from moka pot and buy lavazza ground coffee, is it worth it for even fresher/richer coffee?

>>16293231
>coffee grinder
>is it worth it?
yes absolutely, I'd argue it's the only barrier to entering the world of specialty coffee and that's really what you're buying

the opportunity to buy beans freshly roasted from award winning roasteries and enjoy the full spectrum of flavours possible which turns coffee into a morning addiction into a morning addiction but you get to learn and taste whole different worlds

again, the rice cooker and the grinder I use literally every day so I'm obviously biased because I love coffee and I love rice. If you enjoy coffee and want to make it a whole thing then grinding your own beans is the first proper step.

>>16293231
>And the korean models are all up to date too?
Yes, though they tend to be quite expensive.

do people get fat off rice? how do east-asianers stay so skinny on white rice? Is it just portion control?

>>16293272
portion control as well as pairing primarily with vegetables, tofu, and small portions of meat.

>>16293272
any dish I make a portion for one is half a cup, I'm 64kg. Some people eat 1 cup.
It is entirely portion control, rice is notoriously easy to portion. It's no worse than any other carbohydrate.

>>16292820
If you're retarded and can't cook it on the stove, yes.

>>16293284
>>16293283
I guess, but by mass it always seems to be more than sandwich bread in a sandwich which is what I usually have as carbs.

>>16292991
>the only way to correctly cook a grain humans have been eating for millennia is with a shitty appliance made of Chinese-ium
How does it feel to be a cooklette?

>>16293289
what if I'm retarded but I CAN cook it on the stove?

>>16293255
Nice, I'd like to get more into coffee tastes but have no idea where to start, pic rel is what I have been drinking religiously and the other types that they sell haven't been the best. What grinder would you recommend?
>>16293262
more-so than those in the japanese market?
>>16293272
personally I eat 180g worth of rice with eggs/chicken each day and never got fat. I think it's portion control.

>>16293292
I hope you're not eating white bread anon

>>16293289
I'm retarded and can't do it.

>>16293231
>how much of this is just marketing gimmick and release price or is it actually worth for the quality and technology?
Wall of text incoming.
Japanese actually have sort of a unified, hivemind agreed-upon definition of the gold standard of rice-making. i.e. the one single best cooking method which produces the best rice; a heavy iron pot, topped with a heavy lid made of thick wood, cooked over an open fire, in a long process with some insanely-experienced expert in the method making almost constant adjustments to the fire by adjusting the wood.

That’s literally what Japanese rice cookers have been advancing toward since they moved from simple electric pot to the computerized logic.
The fuzzy-logic uses dynamic algorithms to replicate an autistic OCD person adjusting heat on the fly, based on rice temp, ambient temp outside the rice maker, humidity, etc.
Then came IH, which allows thinner metal pots to have even heating much closer to a thick one, instead of the heat being concentrated at the bottom.
Pressure came next, which acts like the “heavy lid”. That’s why they don’t use high pressure like a pressure cooker, just moderately elevated.

So the current next step is using multiple induction coils to replicate the nuances of an actual burning fire. That’s what the model in that pic does.

So for the market it’s being sold to, it’s one step closer to the “ideal”, rather than a gimmick.

>>16292820
Yes, and they're versatile af
I make steel cut oats and quinoa (on the white rice setting) in the Zoji every day

>>16293306
...And let me get this straight, wouldn't this all only effect rice texture and sogginess?

>>16293306
This is nice to read, I can appreciate such autism for quality, will definitely get one of those new ones then.

>>16293297
if you're in the states baratza encore is the go to entry level electric, wilfa svart if europe - they're both burr, reliable and go fine enough for filter
this is just general knowledge, I've only owned one grinder so I can't give a reliable reccomendation

what you're drinking there equates to darker roasted coffee, like how when you caramelize meat on a cast iron pan it takes on new flavours right? coffee is roasted in large drums and the bean darkens over time, it is the same thing happening here- maillard reaction - flavours you associate with that like nuttiness shine through.
Anything off the shelf will be darker because dark roasts have more widely palettable notes like chocolate, caramel, etc.
also they're always stale, so you're probably just getting generic coffee bean flavour and some ashy notes - this changes when you grind your own, you'll notice dark roast coffees have flavours you never noticed before but they're all in line with what you'd expect

lighter coffees are the real meat of specialty because you get to dabble with acidity, different fruity flavours and also floral ones. Not only the roast, but how the bean is processed heavily affects flavour: the coffee "bean" is surrounded by pulp when harvested and depending on how this pulp is removed can change the flavour of the coffee - some farms do it naturally and let it dry and decompose in the sun giving subtle fermented notes leading to flavours like pineapple
others wash it off giving a more clarified flavour.
Then there's blends, that's a whole different bag.

If you get into coffee, I reccomed a washed medium/dark roast coffee ground from wholebean. African coffees are great for expanding, south american has a great variety of types.

>>16293302
Yes, you can!!

>>16293335
thank you anon
>different fruity flavours and also floral ones
I've never tried something like this, always went with tea for these types of flavours but my mind is blown I can get something like this with coffee too.
coffee with hints of vanilla would probably be my favourite.

>>16293297
>more-so than those in the japanese market?
Yes, becuase they've been converted to 220v/60hz

You'd likely spend a similar extra amount getting a converter to run a domestic japanese model in the UK.

I'd get a korean model just to not have to deal with an external converter device.

>>16293355
gonna want to lean into etheopian coffees if you want the really out there tasting notes like vanilla - you're leaning between fruity and chocolately for that one
etheopia (imo) is the king of coffee, their season JUST started and my roasteries are getting etheopians in and i'm fuckin excited
also do yourself a favour and get an aeropress, impossible to fuck up making coffee with that thing

you'll be amazed when you taste your first natural processed coffee and it's gone the light mouthfeel of tea and the flavour of sharp pineapple

>>16293313
Texture and (to an extent) flavor, depending on the specific sort of rice.

But ones like in that dept store pic are still very much luxury items. 95% of Japanese are going to own a less expensive one.
They’re like cars; every year the big rice cooker companies (Zoji, Tiger, and Panasonic) try to outdo each other.
And like cars, tech that’s only in top-end models eventually finds its way down to more affordable ones.

>>16293380
>(to an extent) flavor
how does that work? unless at some degree it roasts/carmalizes it.

>>16293398
Longer presoak, longer steam, slower rise in temp, etc can all effect the flavor of the rice.

>>16293411
in what way? making it nuttier? I ask, because when I boil/steam other things, it doesnt really change the flavor rather than making it less concentrated when it comes to some stuff, and is usually a change in texture, besides the usually chemical changes of when particular foods are exposed to high heats.

>>16293398
It works in several ways.
Holding short grain rice at an elevated temp for a while before raising it to cooking temp can break some of the starches into sugars and produce a sweeter taste.
It isn’t a massive difference, but definitely noticeable if you’re using a rice like koshihikari.
Keep in mind they’re designed for a domestic market of people who literally eat rice multiple times daily, so even a minor improvement will seem more drastic to them.

>>16293430
Ok, that makes sense. Like I said, Usually I do not think of methods that use water to heat things add much strong particular flavors.

>>16293428
making it sweeter

So I make a lot of rice and I got about 200 bucks to blow on a rice cooker. Which one should I get ?(I'm a eurofag)

>>16293463
See
>>16293139

>>16292820
I have one. Bought it four years ago . Stopped using it like three weeks later.

>>16293463
What that other guy said, get the yumasia-brand model that fits your budget. I just have the panda, myself, but I've been using it for a year and I still love it.

>>16293475
>>16293468
Natch, thanks for the advice fellas

>>16293470
why?

>>16293370
appreciate the tips anon

>>16292868
fucking herr, anon, have some serf lespect

Yes.

>>16293089
>Everyday
you should have bought this years ago
>£349.99 on amazon
anything zojirushi produces high quality rice, you may not need the 350 pound one
the NS-ZCC10 suits my needs and i got it for 110

>>16293293
Japanese rice cookers are skookum. Mitighry tough.

https://youtu.be/IxAbz9mfaj0

fak, I just posted this >>16295757 cause I didn't read the catalogue

I need help rice bros. I want to make some rice before the end of my day and then cook something really quickly to eat with it. I can make a ton of dishes that go well with rice but I want to save a bit of time too.

please halp.
>rice is done and perfect
>now what do

Nope.

For a third of the price you can get an instant pot that does much more and still makes great rice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4F0S83O6ek

With some know how, a $20 rice cooker will be just as good. Think about the amount of food you could buy with the $300 saved.

You could literally make rice dishes in clay pots if you wanted to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOvRuwvu56g

I know alot of butthurt faggots are going to go on about how if you eat rice every it's worth it or how the build quality is much more superior and they're probably right but if you need to ask it's probably not worth it for you.

Good for steaming too

>>16292820
lmao
no

>>16296065
>With some know how, a $20 rice cooker will be just as good
No. I’ve owned both. You clearly haven’t.
>You could literally make rice dishes in clay pots if you wanted to.
No shit. I own a rice donabe too.
>alot of butthurt faggots
Someone sounds angry.

no. rice matters, cooker doesnt.

>>16297491
>rice matters
>cooker doesnt
>has a $250 cuckoo.

suuuuure

>>16298271
well yea, i paid said €250 for that knowledge. good koshihikari tastes just as good as it did coming from my deceased €30 2008 rice cooker.

>>16298278
looks like someone got cuckoo-ed

>>16298285
kek. it was a waste of money, but hey - it still makes perfect rice. a shame that its the only thing it can do tho, if you try cooking even just a quarter of the pot's volume of dumplings the damn thing pisses water all over the place.

>>16298278
>i paid said €250 for that knowledge
convenience doesn't cost that much. you got jipped.

>>16298301
hey, i fell for the fuzzy logic meme thinking it would do something amazing and this was the cheapest option with said tech ¯\_(⊙︿⊙)_/¯

>>16298310
Lol wut?

You guys are getting fleeced.


Also micom/fuzzy logic does make a pretty significant difference, especially if you switch between different kinds of rice (brown rice, sweet rice, sushi rice, etc)

>>16298330
i only eat sushi rice, so no idea. back when i bought it (2-3 years ago) i hadnt seen that zojirushi model anywhere, it was either the cuckoo or a zoji in that price segment with fuzzy logic and the zoji was a much older model.

>>16298342
> I only eat sushi rice

are you using it for sushi?

Cause sushi rice is just normal japonica rice but cooked with less water so it's got less moisture, the idea being when you make sushi you take the slightly drier rice, and add rice vinegar to it (you use vinigard rice for sushi) to replace the missing moisture from the water, and the rice absorbs the rice vinegar giving it the proper flavor for pairing with sushi.


If you are just making your rice on the sushi setting and with sushi rice amount of water, then eating it plain, i'm not shocked that you're unimpressed by your rice cooker. You're not supposed to eat straight sushi rice like that. It's got less moisture than you'd normally have in rice.

>>16298367
i eat koshihikari on the sushi setting, usually with a bit of apple vinegar (didnt like rice vinegar at all, but do always use it in ramen) and sempio soy sauce. i easily consume two cups in one meal despite not being a fat fuck.
and im unimpressed after making a direct comparison, the only difference notable to me is that to achieve the same rice i had to presoak it couple hours for the old one while with the cuckoo rice comes out watery tasting if i do that.

>>16298398
I don't know about cuckoo, but with zojirushi at least as long as I presoak for ~30-60 minutes it's fine, more than a few hours and it can get too soft, but that can be somewhat avoided if I change the setting to "harder" instead of "regular".

I don't make sushi rice most of the time though.

I primarily use Koshihikari but also use Calrose occasionally, and I use Yumepirika when i'm feeling fancy.

>>16298441
i tried calrose once, it was ok but kinda like a weaker tasting koshihikari.
yumepirika i can not even find on germazon or jewbay. some rando jap site sells a 5kg bag for 65 bux when i pay 23 for 10kg of italian koshihikari, so fuck that very much.

>>16298489
Yeah, that's exactly what calrose is, a worse koshihikari (but generally a good deal cheaper)

And yeah, for Yumepirika I'm paying $33 for 2kg in the US (imported from Hokkaido)

>>16298520
give this shit a try, just cook the rice with it. for me a teaspoon per 2 cups rice about does it. its not something you always cook rice with, but still pretty interesting and i got 200g for 5 bucks off germazon.

just learn how to cook rice in a pot instead of buying a machine soy brain

>>16293216
>>16292867
>>16292820
>>16297491
tf anons do you have a cheaper by the dozen situation going on? why do you need such massive equipment. this makes enough rice for all day family of four or even for a sunday feast.
for less than $20 is defiantly worth the price

>>16298704
I have no problem spending $250-300 on a rice cooker that i'll end up using for the next 10-20 years.

Sure a $20 rice cooker will get you 85-90% of the quality, and a $300 rice cooker will get you to ~95%. You're certainly getting to diminishing returns, but if you eat rice often enough and you like rice enough, it's worth it. You're talking about a few pennies for every time you use it, potentially even less than $0.01 if you use it often enough and for long enough.

>>16297398
>>With some know how, a $20 rice cooker will be just as good
>No. I’ve owned both. You clearly haven’t.
I have which is why I can make that statement.
>>You could literally make rice dishes in clay pots if you wanted to.
>No shit. I own a rice donabe too.
And how does it compare to the rice cooker that cost 10x as much?
>>alot of butthurt faggots
>Someone sounds angry.
Nah. Just trying being real.

>>16292820
I used a £20 rice cooker for a while. Probably not the greatest, but a lot better than a pot.

>>16299774
>And how does it compare to the rice cooker that cost 10x as much?
Lol, traditional donabe at the high end cost WAYY more than a rice cooker.

Pic related, this isn't even as close to as high end as they get.

How do I know if it's made in japan? I'm looking at the IH ZOjirushi from Bed Bath and Beyond since their 20% off coupon works on it

>>16299927
Whats the model number?

That being said, i'm pretty sure all the IH models are made in japan.

>>16292820
This basically>>16292867
You can cook perfectly fine rice without a rice cooker, it's just there to save your time and effort since you can just wash the rice, let it dry and put it in the cooker and it does the rest on its own, you don't have to watch the heat etc

>>16299795
I could find a chopstick that cost $900. Your point?

It's pretty clear you're being disingenuous with your replies.

>>16299774
>And how does it compare to the rice cooker that cost 10x as much?
I spent about the same on my igayaki donabe as I did my rice cooker.
They both make amazing rice.
One is for when I feel like autistically controlling a flame. The other is for when I want to plan a meal for when I do other things, and have perfect rice ready at a specified time.

>>16293139
>The zojirushi's sold in the US/Canada/Korea/Japan are all 1-2 generations ahead of what they sell in europe.
Now, Korea and China have started to copy this product, so it is a generation old.

>>16293144
>power converter

>100V to 120V
In the U.S., it's still okay.
>100V to 200-240V
But for Europe, it's probably best not to.
Even with the right product, prolonged use can be dangerous.

Or give up and buy Chinese or Korean products.
It is wise to buy a ceramic pot like this one.
I recommend the one with the double lid.

my cuckoo pot is probably the only thing in my household that i actually enjoy cleaning. what you see is what you get after about a day of just leaving the pot to dry, a single paper towel and the pot is good to go.
and if you ever notice a smell coming from the cooker, just run the auto clean with some strong vinegar. on average i just run it every 4 months and have yet to notice any smells though.

>>16302209
not really all that hard to clean even if you don't wait for it to dry (and really you shouldn't as that encourages bacteria growth in your rice cooker)

Just get warm/hot water and run it in the pot for 20-30 seconds, then wipe clean.


I also clean the gaskets inside my rice cooker after every use, cause it's super easy to take them out, put them under hot water for 10-20 seconds, then wipe dry and put them back. The whole cleaning process probably takes a total of ~90-120 seconds.

And if you do it like this, you're basically never going to end up with a smell in your rice cooker.

>>16302999
>cause it's super easy to take them out, put them under hot water for 10-20 seconds,
I do the same, but some people make it sound like that’s a pain in the ass.
I can only assume that not all rice cookers are designed for easy cleaning of all those components.

>>16292820
I eat jasmine rice almost everyday, and I cannot imagine livin without it

>>16302999
>>16303024
believe you me, this thing is a Bitch to take apart. ive only done it once, and the whole time i was afraid i would just rip off that gay little nub you are supposed to pull on.

>>16303064
Fuck that shit, in my zoji it's just a press tab, the top inner gasket pops right out.

>baiting the cooklets once again with a rice cooker thread

>>16303081
>anon feels lonely again
there you go lad, dont feel too dispirited.

>>16303064
Wow, so yeah I was right with
>>16303024
>I can only assume that not all rice cookers are designed for easy cleaning of all those components.
And like >>16303078 said, I just push a tab and the upper gasket/plate comes right out, and the steam trap on top pops out easily too.
So that’s anything which could either touch the rice/starch or trap moisture.

>>16292820
No.
Just learn to cook rice on a stove top you fucking retard

>>16303089
i'm not the one making a terrible meme thread for (You)s

>>16303110
why would you say this if you've never used a rice cooker

>I can make on stove just fine!

nobody cares faggot, rice cooker has a million advantages and you're clueless if you think half the chinks on the planet use them because they're just a meme

>>16293302
>I'm retarded and can't do it.
Please don't breed.
We already have too many retards.

>>16303112
nigger, how fucking hard is it to comprehend that people want to discuss rice cookers on ck? dont like it - move the fuck on and go to your fastfood threads.

>>16303110
>just learn to make poverty rice with uncle ben
Some people like to enjoy good things.
If you actually read the thread instead of being a turbofag, you’d see OP already stated the best rice he’s ever had was from a Japanese colleague who used a high end cooker.

>>16303122
>nigger, how fucking hard is it to comprehend that people want to discuss rice cookers on ck?

1) rice cooker bait is practically its own meme at this point
2) you can tell the OP is being such a faggot because it's a low effort one liner post

>>16292820
if you eat rice at least 3 times a week

>>16303114
>you're clueless if you think half the chinks on the planet use them because they're just a meme
that's actually what they think.

They honestly believe asians are lazy or incompetent and have been duped into believing they need a rice cooker.

>>16303114
>nobody cares faggot,
You clearly do.
Every time I shitpost on rice cooker threads, people like you come crawling out of the woodwork.
The simple inescapable fact is that you're literally too retatded to boil water in a pot, so you piss away hundreds of dollars on over engineered meme appliances.
And every time someone points and laughs at your retardation, faggots like you fly into a rage and start posting pathetic copes.

>>16303138
Post your rice then faggot.

I've asked morons like yourself (if not you) to post their supposedly = to rice cooker stove top rice, and you guys never seem to want to actually prove you can do it.

And make sure you show what rice you're cooking so we can laugh at how poor you are.

>>16303127
its a fucking thread starter post, it doesnt need to contain a research paper on fuzzy logic and the current raw material markets affecting zojirushi production quantities in west taiwan.
maybe op intended it as bait, maybe he didnt. either way we are having our comfy rice cooker talk with the occasional "cook it on the stove" monkeys flinging their shit.
hell, if there were more threads like these when i bought my cuckoo i wouldve bought a zojirushi instead.

>>16303114
>and you're clueless if you think half the chinks on the planet use them because they're just a meme
Actually it's because chinks eat rice every fucking day, and it actually makes some sense to own one if you do.
Even then, most are using the cheapest ones they can get their hands on, not over engineered memeshit that faggots on this board waste money on.

>>16303126
>Some people like to enjoy good things.
Yes, and some people aren't retards who actually know how to cook.

>>16303138
>shitpost
>someone responds
>lol checkmate
It’s good to know you’re just shitposting and don’t actually believe your own drivel; better to be purposely contrarian than naturally retarded.

>>16303164
>le people can’t cook
But you know that isn’t why people buy a rice maker. As you said yourself, you’re just shitposting.
It’s fine that you don’t care about having good rice, not everyone does. Why are you so mad about it though?

>>16292820
>is it worth the price?
Only if you must have a keep-warm function for your rice. Typically this function would be nice for people who eat at different times, like that one family member who works late, or has a meeting on certain nights of the week. Pairing a crock pot and a rice cooker on warm would be nice for eating in shifts like that.

My cuban friends swear by their Microwave Pressure cookers, which are like dollar store items under $20. Long grain rice, glug of olive or amazingly good, corn oil, salt, sprinkle of dried onion + 8mins. One friend showed me that secret to their great rice, and it was delicious. It goes into the dishwasher, and makes really fluffed up rice.

>>16303182
How am I mad?
I'm laughing at retards like you coping that you're literally too fucking dumb to boil water.

>>16303146
>Post your rice then faggot.
uh huh and you want me to believe that you can judge the quality of rice just by its appearance.
Holy fucking meds, Batman.

>>16299795
It's an artist's work, so the price is just higher!

>>16301168
Are you looking for a product like this?
A pot made of 99.9% carbon
$1450
http://homusubi.net/store/2019/03/09/%E6%A5%BD%E3%81%94%E3%81%93%E3%82%8D%E5%A4%A7/

>>16303167
>can't cook rice on a stove
>calls other people retarded
You should seriously consider your own posts before posting them.

>>16303204
I also cook rice in a traditional clay pot when I have the time and nothing to pay attention to outside the kitchen.
You’re clearly mad because you’re being so hyperbolic.

>>16303215
>can't cook rice on a stove
Literally nobody buys a rice maker for this reason, anon, but you know that.
Enjoy your poverty rice.

>>16303261
>Hurr durr he must be a poorfag
Retards really need better copes.

>>16303243
What exactly am I mad about?
That I'm smart enough to not be dependent on overpriced, over engineered technology?
Stop projecting, retard.

>>16303278
>overpriced, over engineered technology?
>clay pot
Okay anon.
>>16303272
>poorfag
Didn’t say you are one, just said you eat the same rice as one. You sure got defensive about it though..

>>16292820
No not really. Get your rice, fully clean it, put it in your pot and fill the water until it reaches the first knuckle on your finger when you touch the top of the rice. Bring to a boil on high, then set to low and cook with a lid until the water is absorbed/boiled off fully. Should take ~15m or less.

>>16303278
You're not smart enough not to enter a rice cooker thread when you don't have one.

>>16299932
Says NP-HCC10 on the website

I hope you don't have cats

>>16303819
See >>16292867

Says "made in Japan" right on the front.

>>16303847
oh didn't realize. Thanks!

>>16303826
My cat knows if he gets up on the counter he is gonna get slapped and not get dinner. So not an issue for me.

>>16292820
Zojirushi makes good stuff. They're like what boomers must have felt like when they could trust 'american' brand names to deliver a good product every time. I've never been dissatisfied with something they made. It costs more but I feel like I actually get what I paid for.

>>16293309
I have the rice cooker, but have never done steel cut oats in it. What ratio of oats to liquid do you use? What liquid? Any other tips on making it taste good?

>>16306085
If you go to the website it should have it listed for your specific model. Here is what mine says (NP-HCC10)

>>16303330
>You're not smart enough not to enter a rice cooker thread when you don't have one.
I'm not a chink insectoid who eats rice every day of the week, retard.
Being smart enough to not waste my money on a rice cooker instantly makes me smarter than all the rice cooker owners on /ck/.

>>16292820
how are the cheaper models around 130-180?
i eat rice everyday and always just used the dirt cheap 30 dollar ones and ive only now been thinking about getting a nicer one

>>16292820
If you eat rice once a week. Get a cheap $50 rice cooker
If you eat rice 3-4 times a week. Get a good $150 rice cooker
If you eat rice every day, get a $300/top of the line rice cooker

>>16292867
what japanese rice do you guys recommend?

>>16308405
koshihikari. no need for jap imports, both eu & us also grow it.

niggers can't spell methamphetamine

>>16292928
>The rice will soar hard

>>16308430
>imports
It's certainly risky without knowledge and experience.
Even Koshihikari is 11 pounds (5 kg)
Low quality $14
High quality $70
The difference is about this much.

>>16308495
i only have eu experience, tried italian and french. french had a somewhat milder taste and tougher texture, but no world shattering difference. both were at ~19-24€ per 20lbs bag, 24ish once the kungfloo got going (fuck if i know why shitalians and faguettes would package in lbs). also tried commifornia grown, was about twice as expensive but probably the strongest taste.

>>16293144
>buy japanese Zoji
>add in a ground wire
>make a converter from 230 to 90 V (or how much they use)
>profit

>>16293216
>~1000 USD
MEIN GOTT...

>>16308593
meant to reply to >>16293195

>>16308495
$70? I believe there's probably rice worth $70 but I get 5kg of Japan grown good quality koshihikari for $45 in Canada, so that seems a bit expensive to me.
As for the original question, a rice cooker is definitely worth it if you make rice multiple times a week. Also the more expensive models are better. I had an entry level (also zojirushi) and upgraded to the one in the pic and the rice is a lot better.

>>16308524
>Differences in taste
In Japan, the price and taste of rice varies from farmer to farmer.
Quality also varies greatly depending on the mill where the rice is milled.
There are around 20 varieties of rice available in Japanese supermarkets at any one time ( varieties vary according to region).
Of these, there are three to five varieties of Koshihikari alone, depending on where it is grown.
In the regions where Koshihikari is the main crop, there are more than 10 varieties of Koshihikari available.

Even if you don't like the taste of a particular variety, it can be very different depending on where it is grown and by whom.
So, if you want to import from Japan, you need a reliable expert to help you.
The price you pay is also very high, so it is not advisable to import too easily.

>California rice
After wheat and soybeans, the USA has been trying to sell rice to Japan for a long time.
The plan has not been successful due to Japanese resistance.
It is likely that the American technology developed at that time was passed on to Europe and is now described in lbs.

>>16308622
Yeah, the prefecture rice is grown in makes a big difference. I think american rice can be superior to some I've tried from Hokkaido for example, but if you find a real good dedicated farmer in Japan with good land they will have the superior rice.
Some people in Japan freshly mill their own rice as well. You can buy home milling machines there.

>>16308598
Even I, a Japanese, don't think $70 is too expensive to buy!
I might buy one for an anniversary or as a gift.

>Japan grown good quality koshihikari for $45
Can you show me the package if you have it?
I'd like to find out how much the same thing costs in Japan.

I've used Tiger, Sanyo and Hitachi twice now and I'm trying to decide which one to replace it with.
My parents have a Zojirushi Induction Pressure model similar to this one.

>>16298704
you don't just pick up a rice cooker from the local junkyard?

>>16308629
I had no idea that the quality of American rice had improved so much.
I have eaten some of the rice from Hokkaido and it is much better than it used to be.
When I was a kid, we used to mill the rice at home.
Also, in the area where I used to live, there were vending machines for milling rice, so I used them a few times.

>>16308660
Maybe $70 is fine for special occasions, yeah, but I have to buy a bag quite often.
You might not think it's good quality, I don't have a picture. It's probably the cheapest JAS Organic koshihikari rice there is so just imagine that, but I don't have many options. It'd cost me way more to import it myself so I'm stuck with what the importers here order. It's from Niigata which I believe produces the most anyway. I believe it's around 3000 or so yen.
To me I think the pressure cooker makes a big difference. Also, they have non made in Japan zojirushi models for export markets and they are like made by some other company or something (well obviously) but they really are different. So be careful.
>>16308673
Well maybe the Hokkaido rice I had just sucked. But there are a few american rice brands that are OK. But I only buy Japanese rice, so that should tell you something.
I have a hard time finding Japanese grown brown rice, though. I'd like to try the GABA function out.

>>16292820
Why yes I want more retarded unitaskers loitering my kitchen space

>>16308740
I agree about unitaskers, but for people that cook rice every day a rice cooker is useful.

>>16308711
>$70 rice
If you buy, for example, 1kg 2000yen

>JAS Organic koshihikari rice
It is very difficult to find a good organic rice.
If you buy organic rice, the price will be at least double because the farmers have to work much harder.
There must be a reason why it is cheaper to buy Organic...

>from Niigata
How to choose the best rice
If the rice has a big name like "新潟Niigata" or "北海道Hokkaido" on it, the quality may not be as good.
>In the case of Niigata area
Uonuma 魚沼うおぬま, Iwafune 岩船いわふね, Sado 佐渡さど
>In the case of Hokkaido area
Uryuu 雨竜うりゅう, Fukagawa 深川ふかがわ, Rankoshi 蘭越らんこし
The quality of the products is usually better if the detailed region is written in large letters like this.
It's also better if the name and photo of the grower are written in large letters!

>Hard time finding Japanese grown brown rice
In fact, it is difficult to find Japanese grown brown rice as well.
Because most of the brown rice is organic or low pesticide, and there are very few of them in the market.
In the past, households used to mill their own rice, but this is no longer the case.
It is best to buy the rice brown and polish it before cooking.

Good luck finding a great importer!

is this rice good?

>>16308834
Yeah. The prefecture isn't written big like that don't worry, I just made a point of looking. I prefer organic, so I look for it and pay more accordingly.
Thanks for the tips.
Back to the US rice, one reason I don't buy it often is because believe it or not they don't put dates on the bags! How do you know when it was harvested? You don't.

>>16308846
its an ok koshihikari, nothing special or bad.

>>16308875
redpill me on good nippon rice I can buy pls

>>16292820
Yes.

>>16308884
no. i basically gave up as soon as i found koshihikari, after that i just tried different brands available on germazon.
the californian i got off reishunger was probably the tastiest, but in no way was it tasty enough for €45 20lbs. then i tried miyako in 500g bags (tastes different from their 20lbs bags) it was good.
basically i stopped at the 20 lbs miyako bags and am fully satisfied. also tried their(?) 20lbs calrose, and it was just a weaker taste at the same price.
while it tastes good on its own i still prefer to season it with sempio soy (and occasional vietkong soy because of nostalgia) and apple cider vinegar - i recommend you go through your vinegar stock and see what you like, apple, white and white rice vinegars are probably my favourites. black rice, coconut, and balsamic i did not enjoy on rice at all.

>>16292820
If you eat rice regularly, then yes.

Pyrex bowl is genuinely a good cheap alternative. 2:1 water to rice by level. Microwave high for 11 mins, covered loosely. Leave to stand for about 4 mins after. It cooks pretty good rice like this.

>>16308848
It's a way of identifying producers who are confident in their quality.

>not they don't put dates on the bags!
That's something you mustn't do!
For a moment I was speechless...
In Japan, the year of harvest and the date of milling are written on the bags.
The date of milling is necessary because rice dries and oxidises quickly after milling!
It also needs to be stored carefully, as it absorbs some of the surrounding odours.
If supermarkets stock large quantities of rice and store it in an unfavourable environment...
I don't think I'd want to buy it!

>>16308976
Correction.

>That's something you mustn't do!
That's something the company mustn't do!

California grown.

>>16308976
That was my reaction. I was in a store and I just flipped some bags over looking for the info and couldn't find it. Some had codes you could probably decode somehow to figure it out, or expiry dates (but who knows how long those are). But the Japanese grown rice had all the info in a nice table clearly on the back, so I bought that and it tasted better too.

>>16308976
As an example the rice just posted here: >>16308991
I searched online and someone said:
Nishiki bags do not carry a date of harvest stamp like some rice brands. This can make it difficult to determine the age of your rice. You can ask the store when it ordered the rice to ensure that you get the freshest package.

>>16309021
They actually do have date of harvests on them but it's hard to figure out since each producer has their own method. I don't know about that brand but another has this:

https://www.kodafarms.com/date-codes-storage-tips/

* The first digit represents the year.
* The second letter represents the month (F=Jan; G=Feb; H=March; J=April; K=May; M=Jun; N=July; Q=Aug; T=Sept; V=Oct; X=Nov; Z=Dec)
* The last two digits represent specific day of the month.

>>16292820
It takes 2 fucking seconds to cook rice in a pot you inbred retard.

>>16309082
Ok, pothead.

>>16309073
Yeah, I figure the info is available (for some brands anyway) but why support a company that makes the info harder to get? I'd rather just look and see it listed clearly. So the Japanese grown rice gets my money. The product has always been superior to my tastes as well.

>>16309073
Here's how to figure out Nishiki's rice date on their bag.

>>16309091
>pothead
DUDE

>>16310513
RICE

I need a new rice cooker but have no idea what to get. All I know is that I want a small one.
I never make more than 2 cups of rice and I always eat Basmati rice.
Any recommendations in the EU?

>>16311332
YumAsia Panda or the Sakura if you want something with more options.

>>16292820
>>16292867
>>16292853
>>16292868
>>16292928
>>16292915
>>16293195
>>16293216
>>16293380
>Not just getting the made in japan rice cooker at Costco made by tiger.

>>16311351
can you make a single cup of rice in any of them?

>>16311376
Both can. The FAQ page for the Sakura says it can handle 1 cup without issue.

The Panda is only a 3.5 cup unit at max, so it obviously can also handle a single cup

>>16311351
>>16311389
gonna go with the Panda
thank you so much, anon

>>16308991
What is Korean rice?

>>16297491
>cuck

>>16311964
yea, its why ive kept the photo despite all the other unrelated crap in the shot.

>>16311972
based

>>16297491
>listen to the guy who buys a chink food processor and bought a Korean KEKoo

>>16311416
What about it? It's just Japanese rice varieties grown in Korea. Since I already have domestic grown Japanese rice, there is no reason for me to get this. Though, honestly, I don't prefer either. My preference is Jasmine rice grown in Thailand.

>>16312004
hey, fuck you - that chink food processor has been in (bi)weekly use for near two years now, and there is no sign of anything going to shit yet.

>>16312014
I don't wanna pay premium for non-jap rice grow by fucking Mexicans.

>>16312024
Koreans aren't Japanese either (even though they want to be).

>>16292820
Yes, get the one that does GABA rice, trust me on this.

>>16312056
>pay more cause some used a Japanese crop, planted in California(basically Mexico) used Mexicans to harvest it vs buy from a Korean who used chinks and is sold in Korea?

>>16312014
>It's just Japanese rice varieties grown in Korea.
Didn't Korea exclude Japanese varieties in its "NO JAPAN" campaign?

>>16312194
I think they are against japanese rice grown in japan being imported to korea.

I don't think they're against japanese rice grown in korea being sold in korea.

>>16312202
I have seen an announcement by the Korean government that they will reduce the cultivation of Japanese varieties and increase the cultivation of Korean indigenous varieties...

>>16312210
Maybe if they had better domestic breeds it wouldn't be an issue

>>16312210
They'd be going back in time. Japan pioneered hybridization of rice and creating new more productive and easier to grow varieties. So they'll have to start over.

I just ordered 15lb of this. Rice autists judge me

>>16312565
One of my favorite brown rice brands.

>>16312565
this is what i buy because it looks decent and i can't read the moonrunes anyway.

>>16292820
Just learn how to cook rice mate, it ain't hard.

Protip, don't ask your anglo mother. Ask an Asian, Indian, or Italian mother.

>>16312631
>Ask an Asian
they're gonna tell you that they use a rice cooker.

>t. lives in an area of the US with massive Korean, Vietnamese, Chinese, Indonesian, and Japanese presence.

>>16312565
Don't they display the degree of milling in the U.S.?
In Japan, there are nine levels.

>>16312604
This is it.
https://www.toyo-rice.jp/genmai/

Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be an English version of this page.
If you'd like to use machine translation, I can translate the parts you're interested in.

>>16312665
Nope

>>16312678
I have no idea what any of that means, but I buy it because I was told by the japanese lady at the store it would be ready to cook after only a 1 hour soak, which is (from what I was told) fast for brown rice.

I plan on trying this rice due to its name. Wish me luck!

Just ate some rice left out for 4 hours

when can i expect to stay on the toilet for an hour

>>16292820
this rice comes out perfect as long as you follow the directions. pre-wash need not apply.

>>16312680
That's not very considerate of the consumer.

>>16312692
That's what the manufacturer's page says.
>You don't have to wash it.
This is stated, but I think this is limited to the state right after opening the package.
If it's been a few days since you opened the package, it's better to wash it gently to prevent it from cracking or chipping.

>>16312738
I had rice for lunch today that had been on "keep warm" since last night (around 14-15 hours)

Worth buying a more expensive rice cooker just for the extended keep warm.

>>16312745
Rice isn't the main staple in America. There is no demand from the consumer for that level of accuracy.

>>16312738
If it was just left out then enjoy your meal of Bacillus cereus.

>>16312762
ty I will

>>16312756
It makes a big difference in how it's cooked and how it tastes, but since only a few of us eat rice... So it's not really an issue.

>>16312840
Seems like in the US, it's mainly 1, 2 and 6.

>>16312868
Nah in the US it's 1/2 for premium rice, and then 3/4 for cheaper/regular rice.

I've never seen 6 in the US

>>16312664
I said an Asian, not an xAmerican.

>>16312876
I mean, a lot of them work at the embassies for their respective countries, and are still citizens of those countries.

They just live in/around the DC metro area.

>>16312873

This doesn't look like 6 to you?

>>16312868
>>16312873
6 is rice that does not need to be washed.
But it's better to wash it lightly.

1 is brown rice after breaking the shell
Not shown in the picture, but the next one is the rice with only the thin skin peeled off, like >16312604.
Then 10%, 30%, 50%, 70%, 90%, 10%, No6
No.6 has to be consumed as soon as possible because the protective part that keeps it fresh has been removed.

>Then 10%, 30%, 50%, 70%, 90%, 10%, No6
Then 10%, 30%, 50%, 70%, 90%, 100%, No6

afaik this is the newest "mid range" model
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0074CDG6C
I'm waiting for it to go on sale for like $120-$130

>>16313316
>"mid range" model
>I'm waiting for it to go on sale
One of these days, I think this Japanese company will sell an American version of the 110V.

$191.80
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0758JQ5H2/
Japan price $118.25
https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B0758JQ5H2

They're building plants in Pennsylvania, Arizona, Wisconsin, and Texas.
If you're going to buy Micom's Zojirushi, you might as well buy IRIS's pressure induction.

>>16313316
Wait for it to reach $200.
NP-HCC10XH
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VAG84O2/

>>16293139
>hmm I could use a rice cooker, lets check out these ones anon recommends
>zojirushu IH models hmmm
>$300-$800

bruh

nobody in their right mind is gonna spend that much on a rice cooker

>>16313830
Most people that get them use them every day for years and years. They aren't that expensive if you consider that.

>>16313845
What about people who have a $650 cuckoo that breaks in a few months and pay a fee to return it?

>>16313877
If anyone pays $600 for that brand, they're crazy.

>>16313830
This one is actually the best one to get if you're looking for a solid, high quality cooker.
>>16313316

>>16312876
Don’t be a retard. Even a peasant with a dirt floor in China will have a rice cooker hooked up to a stolen car battery charged by a stolen solar panel.

If you’re referring to jungle Asians, they don’t really count.

>>16313806
>Wait for it to reach $200.
you should add, it hasn't gotten that low in over a year, and the only time it was close in the last year was $205 back in June of 2020. And the only time BEFORE the previous $199.99 in 2019 was a single time in late 2017.

Since then the lowest it's been has been $250 besides a very short period where it was $230.

So waiting for it to drop to $200, you could be waiting awhile.