/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>16256745
>look at ingredients
>looks like some kind of industrial lubricant
"is dis healthy guiz"

>>16256751
>looks like some kind of industrial lubricant
maybe if you are some kind of retard
it's just a bunch of salts and acids

>>16256763
yeah bro harmless glycerol ester of wood rosin

totally harmless red 40

oh boy, gotta love sodium benzoate! did you know this is on the fast track to being not fit for human consumption in EU

>>16256763
Acids are bad for you

>>16256777
let's not forget the totally necessary sucrose acetate isobutyrate

i mean who wanted intestinal flora anyway, it's not like they are linked extremely strongly to mental health and general body function

>>16256777
>>16256781
Alle Dinge sind Gift, und nichts ist ohne Gift, allein die Dosis macht dass ein Ding kein Gift ist, fuckface

>>16256806
>>>/pol/
>>>/earlygrave/
>>>/poverty/
>>>/whereyoubelong/

>>16256777
>glycerol ester of wood rosin
it's literally wood rosin
>red 40
euro's had a hissy fit over this and quietly allowed it back into food recently after realizing it had no effect
https://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/efsajournal/pub/4007
>sodium benzoate
ever drink milk? eat a shrimp? maybe drink fresh cranberry juice?

fuck off, just because the states require exactly defined chemical names for ingredients doesn't mean it's allowing poison

>>16256824
>it's literally wood rosin

it's literally wood rosin bro it's fine to be in a drink flavoring (?????????)
>red 40
data support it being unhealthy, don't care what EU did
>sodium benzoate
data support it being unhealthy, doesn't matter if it's in other things

>>16256834
>data support
nah, the studies used in the 2000's to vilify these things have been put to the test of the scientific method and no links to them being unhealthy have been proven

>>16256847
Incorrect.

You don't have the education to contend with me on this, don't bother

>>16256871
>You don't have the education to contend with me on this
enjoying sociology 101?

>>16256871
Wrong.

You clearly cannot even read a journal that shows a limit of 7mg/kg for red40 for children.
meaning you would have to forcefeed a baby several of those koolaid concentrates to start fucking with them

>>16256881
It's not an argument when you either lie or state something objectively, provably false as the basis for your stance

you can stop trying to go back and forth with me now, I do this professionally

let me repeat this again for you since you need to hear it:

It's not an argument when you either lie or state something objectively, provably false as the basis for your stance

>>16256745
I wouldn't say healthy, but better for you than alternatives. I sometimes put a few drops in seltzer for a change. Anything more and it's kinda gross.

>>16256892
>state something objectively, provably false
so what source would you like? the European food safety authority isn't up to your standards?

>>16256895
>I wouldn't say healthy, but better for you than alternatives.

These are substantially not better than the alternatives whatsoever. There exist superior products like stur, or just making your own flavoring/sweetener mix. I do this with monkfruit and flavor extracts.

>>16256897
>the European food safety authority isn't up to your standards?

Of course it's not. Literally not a scientific source. That's why I told you that you aren't educated enough to do this with me. Last response.

The internet has confused a generation of people into thinking they're smart because they can google something and post a link without understanding anything about it. This is a grievous miscalculation on the part of those people.

>>16256892
you have done nothing to support your statements, only assured us that you're the smartest

get fucked, you're late for your shift at kroger

>>16256913
>ou have done nothing to support your statements

What part of "it's not an argument" did you not understand?

Don't bother responding, I'm beyond sick of this place anymore. Fucking fat kids do this exact same shit at work and you think you're somehow different

Are these things healty?
Zero beef and zero pork... what's the catch?

>>16256904
>so what source would you like?
answer the question or admit defeat

>>16256917
you're right, you're not arguing, just spewing random shit. Go be sick with this place over in reddit

>>16256926
I guess it's admit defeat, I will continue having my Masters degree in nutrition and dietetics and you can continue googling things and misunderstanding them and trying to force unwinnable arguments against your own best interests.

4chan has taught you kids to never give up in your efforts for some kind of "win", if you simply put as much effort into genuinely improving your station in life, you'd see results.

>>16256936
oh, sorry I didn't realize I was conversing with such an intellectual
It's almost like using personal qualifications on an anonymous website is fucking retarded and the only way to prove a point is with linkable facts and outside proof
but I guess you are just too smart to realize that

>>16256904
>Of course it's not. Literally not a scientific source.
not them, and I have to agree with you. regulatory agencies have an agenda and are easily corrupted
just looked up some SDS/MSDSs on red 40 and, as usual, they are contradictory. and besides LD50 only says at what concentration half the study animals died, and nothing about them being damaged

>>16256936
>Masters degree in nutrition and dietetics

I'd still laugh at you even if this was half true, you miserable faggot. You wasted your life and your parents money to do nothing but continuously beg for more money to justify your existence

>>16256949
It's almost like everything isn't an argument and if we went back and forth with all the data, I would win

And I know this, but you don't. So you're basically telling me to waste my time educating you for free. But I don't do it for free.

People aren't beholden to argue with you about things you are wrong about, have no education about, and frankly have no idea about. You ran to a european regulatory body as your source after saying that "studies" denounced what I've claimed, an objective lie. Studies have supported what I've claimed.

You only interact with people in this way so you've come to expect it, because other contaminated losers on this website act just like you.

But that shit's over. Take it face value that you're wrong or never improve as a person. I can guess which path you will take, and where it will lead you, and I don't care. Almost everyone is like you. Incapable of bettering.

>>16256936
>Masters degree in nutrition and dietetics
Nutritional science is a shit tier field and you know it. It's filled with low quality, industry friendly journals that are dumping grounds for shills

>>16256958
Post name tag. Can you help me find the kewpie mayo?

>>16256965
>Almost everyone is like you.
wow, yes
you are better than ALMOST everyone, clearly

>>16256972
Nutritional science is home to some of the least industry-friendly journals of any field. Conflicts of interest are very hard to hide.

>>16256978
https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1001578

>>16257023
I've seen it. The reason why things aren't so simple for industry these days is because nutritional science suffered some of the worst conflicts of interest of any field, which led to people like me getting in.

>>16256978
that doesn't mean it's not a total meme science that changes every decade in its recommendations and has no clinical applicability. I round with dieticians, nice people but I still have to do TPNs for them

>>16257039
It think the problem is that it is so hard to model
>different host factors like genetics and environment
>different gut microbiomes
>miscibility of foods
so they usually rely on easily skewed population studies or worse, self reported data

i get the mios and they are great
no nasty feeling in your mouth after you drink like alot of sodas

>>16256777
isnt red 40 bugs? Like cochineal bugs?

>>16256745
just drink water faggot
are you 10 years old?

>>16256824
>ever drink milk?
No, milk is unhealthy. You can get calcium in healthier ways from pure calcium supplements and tablets, or powders where you can measure the exact amount your body needs.
>eat a shrimp?
No, shrimp has high iron levels that are unhealthy for you if you eat enough shrimp.
>Maybe drink fresh cranberry juice?
No, drinking anything but water is unhealthy.

>>16257524
what do you eat?

>>16256878
Based

>>16256936
>4chan has taught you kids to never give up in your efforts for some kind of "win",

That's why u never argue with cunts on here

>>16257530
Mostly experimental synthesized vitamin and minerals meals I find at my co-op. Completely synthesized foods that only contain what is healthy for your body, only in healthy amounts. It doesn't taste very good but it keeps me healthy

>>16257566
Are you a human because you're treating yourself like livestock.

>>16257598
How so? I'm just taking my health seriously. I want to live to 100.

>>16256824
>ever drink milk? eat a shrimp? maybe drink fresh cranberry juice?
Well that sounds a lot better than this chemical spill in a bottle. Why not just get those instead?

>>16257842
spoiler alert
they contain the same compounds

>>16257475
I drink literally nothing but tea and water. I was just wondering if this is a good way to get some variety from time to time.

>>16256797
intestinal flora? like, a green ecosystem growing in my intestines?
>>16257524
>milk is unhealthy
you're a homo

>>16256806
go home Paracelsus

>>16256820

>>16256965
>you're basically telling me to waste my time educating you for free. But I don't do it for free.

but do you know who does do it for free?...

>>16257566
i cant help but think that eating a completely synthetic diet isn't good for you.

or try to fucking live a little and enjoy eating as one of life's great pleasures. why marginally extend your lifespan and deprive yourself of real food? are you an ascetic or something?

>>16256892
professionals in your field tend to be absolute fucking retards that need to push agendas that aren't there to stay relevant otherwise you're out of a job because your field is about 1/100th as important as it's portrayed

>>16257566
so tell me, how does Soylent Green taste?

>>16259033
I don't drink Soylent, or eat soy products. Soy is bad for you and can lead to hair loss.
>>16258919
Because there is nothing unenjoyable about my diet.
Only eating doing what makes you feel good is how you burn out your dopamine receptors. You need to do shit that makes you unhappy sometimes so you can continue to understand why what makes you feel good feels good.
Also I can play nirvana at the funerals of all my friends if I out live them

>>16256745
>Zero sugar and zero calories
>Serving size a single pellet just below the legal limit to consider the sugar and calorie content so they can put 0 even though it's 99%.
There's the catch.
Same with tic tacs.

>>16259157
its a joke ya fucking wiener. look up the movie Soylent Green.

>>16259219

>>16256745
I switched to store brand 0 calorie drink mix from soda and other sweet drinks. The way I see it, it can't be worse for me than drinking a ton of hawaiian punch or pepsi.

>>16256745
I've only tried Mio but whatever is in it fucked with my gut bacteria so I stopped. Shame, it was tasty.

>30 replies of two people disagreeing on what is factual
>not a single fucking link to anything

>>16257908
And apples contain cyanide.
What's your point?