/ck/ - Food & Cooking

the gmo "debate" is muddied to near-nonsense because technically speaking, "genetically modified" and "genetic engineering" can mean something as simple as selective breeding, which humans have been doing for pretty much as long as agriculture has existed (even if it wasn't really quantitatively analyzed until gregor mendel). but what is certain is that there is no way we would be able to feed the population that we have without our current level of technology. anything said otherwise is literally facebook post-tier nonsense by college dropouts with dreadlocks who run organic farms which can only feasibly exist as a niche luxury market.

>>15960135
chicken 'farming' is just a government psyops to de-evolve avians back into dinosaurs to make more oil

>>15960184
now this is my kind of redpill. got any more?

Science is scary. Period.

>>15960184
Kek

>>15960135
If those chickens are gmo then so are toadlines

>>15960135
All of that was done with traditional animal husbandry. We weren't making gmos back in 2005.

>>15960213
I've heard about chemtrails, but toadlines?

>>15960184
>cheap plentiful oil
>actual Jurassic Parks to visit
>Original Recipe Kentucky Fried Pterodactyl
>Dino McNuggets
There’s literally no downside to your scenario.

>>15960248
>actual Jurassic Parks to visit
Didn't you watch those movies?

>>15960184
Birds are still literally dinosaurs. They're just the only ones that survive until today.

>Ask your average paleontologist who is familiar with the phylogeny of vertebrates and they will probably tell you that yes, birds (avians) are dinosaurs.
>Using proper terminology, birds are avian dinosaurs; other dinosaurs are non-avian dinosaurs

https://ucmp.berkeley.edu/diapsids/avians.html#:~:text=Ask%20your%20average%20paleontologist%20who,birds%20are%20technically%20considered%20reptiles.

>>15960168
These pictures are so depressing to look at.

>>15960239
this is a toadline

>>15960263
>he believes movies
ngmi

>>15960263
>Didn't you watch those movies?
Fuck Hollywood. According to movies we shouldn’t explore space because asshole aliens will blow our shit up. Of course they want us to be afraid of dinosaurs.
Fuck that.
I’m going to be a dinosaur rancher on Mars, and there’s not shit those assholes can do to stop me.

>>15960412
I have never seen a living organism whose mere physical appearance screams “I’m fucking retarded” so loudly.
This includes any actual pants-shitting retard I’ve ever seen.

>>15960557
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>>15960386
That's so cool bro! It's nice to find another like minded intellectual on this chud-infested shithole that fucking loves science!

Chickens won't get much bigger than they are now because they're so big that they can't fuck anymore.

>>15960386
>Birds are still literally dinosaurs.

>>15960135
GMO's seem so far like they really aren't that much worse than anything else in the modern food production machine. You have potatoes that literally excrete pesticide but if you go to a conventional farm they douse chemicals on it anayways so fuck it.
The thing with GMO's is that they are one of the greatest Pandora's box of human history. They're slamming genes together and seeing what's up. It's extremely imprecise, extremely unregulated and has an extremely vague understanding of the possible outcomes. Ecologically especially its a big concern, these crops aren't grown in a vacuum and we have no idea what would happen if a GMO crop cross pointed or "escaped" into the wild. Additionally Genes can leap between species, so that could be really fun. Meanwhile big agg is kind of just using forward with a "just trust me bro" kinda attitude.

>>15961046
I think some people are overly optimistic about it because it does have wonderful potential but ultimately as long as it being weilded by entities that already have a terrible track record for responsible agriculture it isn't going to be used for good. It's used to make tobacco more addictive or make it so they can spray more chemicals on it. That kind of shit. Monsanto doesn't give a fuck about giving your potatoes a higher nutritional value or curing blindness in Africa with rice or whatever.

>>15960184
based

>>15960412
>according to the ABKC, this is exactly the same breed as this

>>15960412
What a qt

>>15960547
>Mars florida man gets mauled by chickenosaur

>>15960412
How can anyone look at this thing and think "that selective breeding was totally worth it".

>>15961494
When that shit happens it isn’t going to be the fault of responsible Dino-ranchers on Mars.
It’s going to be due to “Pit-Mommies” adopting baby velociraptors, as they’re the shitbulls of the dinosaur kingdom.
>Posts Instagram pic of little raptor grabbing the meat out from her Arby’s sandwich “aww so cute and funny!”
>has “Veloci-Mommy” decal on the back window of her 15yo Kia compact SUV
>*Florida breaking news* Pompano Beach single mom and her 2 children killed by family velociraptor. Neither the Cuban nor Haitian fathers available for comment

>>15961473
>ABKC
>literal “we’ll make our own club since the real one doesn’t recognize our fighting mutts”
>literally does mental gymnastics from one sentence to the next
>”shitbulls are aggressive and need specific training to alleviate this”
>”B-BUT shitbulls are friendly and this behavior is totally uncharacteristic of the breed!”
There’s a reason the legit “Kennel Clubs” don’t recognize the American Jamalhound.

>>15961952
Forgot pic; too preoccupied laughing at the website

>>15960135
He is legend

I remember the golden rice project that was supposed to end vitamin a dificiency by adding... like .5 percent vit a to rice in a form humans can't even disgest.

But it was pretty and golden colored, see? They will lie about everything.

>>15961473
I think that would be the perfect dog for meat if we ate dogs.

>>15961952
Pitbulls have had UKC and AKC recognition since like 1930 and the AKC then removed them for PR reasons. ABKC was created to register American Bullies which you'd have to be a lunatic to consider as a Pit Bull (though to be fair there's so many lines that basically could still have a much heavier AST mix). So I concede that what you may have demarcated as the same dogs are potentially from similar but not directly descending from foundation stock meaning there's technically no "closed" line of direct relation.

So the "real" kennel clubs are right not to allow them

>>15961987
Probably not actually, as a lot of their mass is ridiculously dense bones for a dog (I have one, a 9 month old and at 22" tall he weighs 60kg despite not appearing comically bodybuilder style overmuscled)

I'd imagine that much resources dedicated to frame is a waste

>>15961894
>Neither the Cuban nor Haitian fathers available for comment

>>15961961
In their defense dog aggression =/= aggression towards humans. However "some aggression" is worrisome when your dog is effectively a tank.

>many "organic" crops used today where at some point in the past subjected to radiation in hopes of causing a random mutation that was favourable

>>15960592
>>>/r/soy
You have to go back

>>15960557
It looks like the left and right hemispheres of its brain are trying to detach from each other and let the poor thing die.

>>15960412
TRUE TOADLINE GOTTILINE MICRO EXOTIC BULLY. BIG BONED SUPER SHORT AND EXTREME IN ALL WAYS. TOADLINE WAS CREATED BY ROYCE ROCCO OF NORTH COUNTY GOTTILINE FROM TRUE %100 GOTTILINE DOGS , WHICH HAS GOTTYLINE PITS DAXLINE , THE BULLY CAMPLINE MIAGI BLOOD , WEST COAST GOTTILINE ACELINE , EDGE OF GOTTILINE BULLSEYE BLOOD AND AFTER MANY YEARS OF BREEDING FOR SELECTIVE BULLY TRAITS . TOADLINE EXOTIC BULLIES KENNELS WAS CREATED

>>15960168
>"genetically modified" and "genetic engineering" can mean something as simple as selective breeding
It doesn't mean that and only GMO apologists ever claim it does. They're completely different processes

>>15960168
>but what is certain is that there is no way we would be able to feed the population that we have without
Yeah, patenting seeds and putting farmers in debt so they lose their farms really helps feed the planet...