/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Cheems

>>15891525
>Compare hollywood cg cooking to real cooking
>Not even same ingredients
Nice try bet you don't even know how to use the microwave

>>15891580
anon?

>>15891580
t. Gordon

https://youtu.be/Yd3ffi0vk30

>>15891580
Use thinner bread, Gordon

>>15891595
Based
Gordon on blast

>>15891525
Gordon's video is the postmodern condition exemplified. It's all about the spectacle (of making a fucking grilled cheese sandwich no less), the actual sandwich is irrelevant. You are being presented and sold the idea of a sandwich, the presentation of a sandwich. The sandwich itself doesn't actually exist in that it's not really what we would consider a grilled cheese sandwich, nobody in their right mind would accept this in a restaurant, nobody would go to the trouble of actually making this because they're hungry or peckish for a grilled cheese sandwich. No, a grilled cheese sandwich is more than the sum of its parts, it combines to become something pleasant. What Gordon produced is less than the sum of its parts, it has been worsened, it isn't even a Frankenstein of a grilled cheese sandwich, it is a series of ingredients slapped together and seared in the interest of marketing and brand recognition: a simulacrum.

>>15892057
>seared
If only it was actually seared on a grill and not torched in a fire

>>15892057
Lay off the coke, Gordon

>>15891525
>>15892057

he's making a croque monsieur you fucking retards. you can see in the video that he's using different ingredients, why would you think he's just making the same thing more fancy. besides that in many of his shows he complains about peoples dishes being pretencious, if anything he's a hack for being too traditional and not exploring original, non-traditional flavors.

>>15892238
>that
>a croque monsieur
Leave this place.

>>15892238
>Croque monsieur
There's no ham on Gordon's sandwich. Also he advertised it as a "grilled cheese" in the title of the video.

>>15892261
He also said in the video that he was making a grilled cheese or, what it was called in Bongland when he was growing up, cheese on toast (even though that isn't normally served as a sandwich). There is no way out of this; this isn't anything but a completely deranged, marketing-infused husk of a grilled cheese.

>>15891525
>/ck/ now likes plastic cheese as long as they can bash Ramsay
>cutting the sandwich on the table

>>15892057
>a simulacrum
God bless, you damn dirty wordsmith!

>>15892305
>plastic cheese
>he doesn't know about Wisconsin Cheddar

>>15892305
>Plastic cheese
Shut up, yurotrash

>>15892312
What movie is that scene from anyway?

>>15892320
any movie with that dude in it

>>15892322
Looks like the average fat mutt with kike hair.

>>15892328
You would know

>>15892238
what a croque of shit

>>15891525
Jesus christ, Favreau. It's just grilled cheese.

>>15891525
from his motion you could tell gordon was surprised it wasnt melted at all

>>15892057
Baudrillard was relevant 40 years ago. Let that sink in. We are so far beyond the hellscape he warned of its incredible

How is it so hard to understand?
He wanted to look fancy doing it on a real fireplace and misjudged the temperature.
Took it out before it completely burned.
I just don't get why he put his fuckup online.

>>15892669
Because he doesn't care.

>>15892238
no it's a cock miser

>>15891525
>band rehearsal starts
NOW WE ALL LOVE GRILLED CHEESE
THERE'S NOTHING LIKE THIS GRILLED CHEESE
>holds up two blocks of cheese that have never been used for grilled cheese before
BEAUTIFUL
>taps knife on board
THIS IS A DREAM COME TRUE
>puts knife away and taps different knife
BIG LONG SLICES
>cuts off the rind
LITERALLY CUT OFF
>exasperated breath
... THE RIND
>cuts cheese further
NICE LONG LUSCIOUS BRICKS OF CHEESE
MAKE SURE THE BREAD IS NOT TOO THIN
>cuts half the loaf off
BIT OF BUTTAH
>butters
SALT
>salts bread
>layers cheese on bread
TAILOR MAKE IT
>cuts cheese again
NOW THE SECRET IS...
>pulls out bowl of already made kimchi out of nowhere
HOMEMADE KIMCHI
>starts dumping it all over
BREATHTAKING
>camera pans to a fire
TOUCH OF OLIVE OIL
>dumps oil in pan
>mumbles beautiful
NOW PUSH THAT DOWN
>smashes grilled cheese down in pan
ON IN SHE GOES
PUT SOME WEIGHT ON THERE
>buttered bread sticks to spatula
>struggles to get it off
>clinks the spatula against the cast iron as punishment
GOOD
>smoke shooting out of pan
TURN IT OVER
>cheese hasnt melted
PUSH THAT DOWN
>squeezes grilled cheese down with rag
NICE AND CRISPY
>puts it back in
>takes it out
PUSH IT DOWN
>desperate to make cheese melt
HELPS CHEESE NICE AND MELTED
>puts pan back in
>elevates the flavor
>takes pan out
THAT BEAUTIFUL... GRILLED CHEESE
>burnt bread
>cheese still hasn't melted
BEAUTIFUL
>back in the kitchen
THE CHEESE HAS MELTED
>cheese can't be seen on screen
>taps knife against board
AND THIS...
>tries to cut the sandwich
CRISPY
>struggles to cut through the sandwich
>involves both his hands
>reveals cross section
BEAUTIFUL
>cheese hasn't melted at all
OH MY GOODNESS ME
>taps knife again
>slices grilled cheese halves into further halves desperate to find some evidence of melted cheese
OH MY GOD
>blows
>visibly struggles to take a bite
>chews
>shakes his head with contempt
OH MY GOD THAT IS INCREDIBLE
>struggles on another bite
WOW
SO GOOD
>ramsay buys a house in tasmania
>guitar solo

Ramsay is washed up but man that fucking Chef scene is some top tier cringe. It's a god damn grilled cheese. I can't tell if it's being ironic or we're supposed to be impressed by the psuedo-artistry while he prepares the simplest sandwich in the world but WOAH REALLY GOOD
>wiggles bread to get even browning
Get fucked favrow

>>15891580
GET A SECOND FUCKING TAKE NEXT TIME YOU DONKEY!

>>15892796
The character Favreau is playing is a big fat pretentious faggot so it's perfect, honestly.

>>15892796
>REEEE WHY ISN'T IT MAYO ON WONDERBREAD WITH KRAFT SINGLES
Because some people enjoy flavor, you loser fucking manbaby.

>>15892777
I wish I had this kind of autism instead.

>>15892948
You'll never be a chef or fuck scarlet johanson fatrow

>>15892948
Mayo, why? Also grilled cheese is simple, comfort food. You can make it fancier by substituting other cheeses to make it but Gordon used the wrong cheese, bread, and method to make his sandwich.

>>15893570
No fucking shit, dummy. I wasn't saying Gordon's was good, but that there was merit to the way he prepared it in Chef. It was over the top sure, but not every grilled cheese has to be plastic bullshit. And mayo is a redneck substitute for butter.

>>15893570
>Mayo, why?
Because mayo is super easy to spread, tastes good and browns like butter or oil.

Gordon's recipe would have worked if he had used a more even cooking method (fucking cast iron in a fireplace lmao) and grated/chopped up the cheese into smaller pieces. Or cook it smarter by toasting the the first slice of the bread with the cheese open-faced style then top with the other and flip to finish toasting.

>>15891525
at least his is made with actual cheese

>>15893586
So he prepared it wrong but it tastes good, is that your point? There's nothing wrong with venturing outside your comfort zone but he is still supposed to be a world class chef giving instructions on how you the viewer can improve your cooking.

>>15893586
You're a miracle. Even when he goes full retard, you defend him because his status has so much reign over you that you simply cannot stand the failure for fear of being dragged down into the pits of unmelted grilled cheese with him.

>>15892057
how is this postmodern in any way? Youre just describing an unauthentic piece of media and calling it "postmodern" but you dont actually connect the two.

>>15891590
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>>15891597
>>15892928
Kek found the people that don't know how to use the microwave

>>15893937
How do you think the postmodern condition manifests?

>>15893942
>using a microwave

>>15893942
Imagine being so culinarily incompetent that you defend Gordon's burned cheese sandwich by calling everyone else retarded for not liking it.

It's time to stop posting, Tana. Even Tilly thinks your husband's cooking has lost the plot.

>>15893948
What is it to you? Postmodern is a vague umbrella term that describes many things, but mainly an opposition of "modern"(as in, Renesance, Humanist, etc.) ideas, or just "grand ideas" in general. It often describes a tone of irony and an abstract style. I dont see how a cynical Youtube video is necessarily "postmodern", let alone "the postmodern condition exemplified". Also, why should I explain my interpretation of "postmodern", (You) should explain what you meant more clearly!

>>15894018
Sorry, I didn't mean it as a "no u", but I wanted to get a clearer understanding of what your understanding of postmodernism is because that helps me respond to you and it also helps prevent me from responding to people who use cultural marxism to refer to posmodernism and other, unrelated fields.

As you said, postmodernism encompasses many things and it can't neatly be pinned down to one single definition. Its break with modernity and the enlightenment is certainly a recurring theme, and the skepticism of grand narratives falls into that. But there are also the concepts of the simulacrum and hyperreality, which Baudrillard introduced. In postmodernity, we are thought to be living under these concepts in general. The media (like Youtube) and how it purports to represent a reality is itself a key part of this. It goes beyond inauthenticity because there's nothing to even be authentic to anymore. I refer to an ideal grilled cheese sandwich to which I compare Gordon's attempt, but even that is a simulacrum because my image of a grilled cheese has been shaped by media representations, consumerism, marketing. So, of course, has Gordon's. What makes his act a great example of this is that he adds to the collection of concepts in the most obviously inauthentic way. The sandwich becomes completely secondary to the marketing effort, it's only there to fuel his brand, and so is everything else in that video, except for the involuntary fuckup that he can't admit or even see or doesn't even care about because he cultivates, again, a brand of seeming perfection and infallibility. From what I understand, this is postmodern in the sense of Baudrillard.

But maybe Gordon's act isn't especially postmodern. I do feel like it's a more salient example than what I normally see. Maybe because of the irony and the hypocrisy? That is a kind of breaking of a metanarrative: that of Gordon as this perfect chef who always scolds others and then fucks up such a simple dish.

>>15893956
>>15893969
Imagine not knowing how to use a microwave
Enjoy your dry cold ramen

>>15891580
not even same ingredients? using the wrong cheese was his first mistake

>>15894166
Nothing out of a microwave is ever quality food, like ">dude ramen lmao"

>>15891525
Who even eats grilled cheese? Americans?

>>15891525
you realize ramsay's face isn't shown in any of the money shots. you realize the ramsay vid is fake. right?

>>15891525
REEEEEEEEEE

>>15892307
seeing very uncommon words like that being used fills me with glee and I cant explain why :)

>i cook for she

why did he oil the griddle if he was putting buttered bread down on it?

>>15892057
based and SOCIETYpilled

>>15892057

>>15895067
t. Gordon high on coke again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8E4cQHejFq0&t