/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>15863532

>>15863532
This is bait, not a real thread.

>>15863575
No, I'm serious. It's a burger. Americans are fucking morons, the beef doesn't make it a burger. Meat between two circular buns makes it a burger.

>>15863532
Why do you care so much?

>>15863581
Why are you so proud of being wrong?

>>15863532
>>15863577
Based and correct.

>>15863532
Here you go, start arguing.

>>15863577
Good to know that limburger is actually meat between buns and not cheese.

Another great /ck/ thread. Some fat faggot beaner baiting in the laziest way possible

>>15863577
It's a chicken sandwich. A chicken burger is a ground chicken patty between two circular buns.

>>15863577
Eat shit; Americans have final authority to dictate what is and is not a burger. Feel free to cry if you don’t like it.

Flatbread = Sandwich
Bun = Burger

Simple as.

>>15863668
>>15863681
They're called burger buns, not sandwich buns.

>>15863577
>Meat between two circular buns makes it a burger
but it's one bun, not two and what happens if your bun isn't round

>>15863532
Burger IS a sandwich.

>>15863532
A burger is a sandwich

>>15863696
>takes a shit between your buns
enjoy your shitburger

Posting more chicken burgers

>>15863575
99% of this shitty board is filled with retards and bait.

>>15863706
That would be a melt.

>>15863709
Which one are you?

>>15863710
That would be a sogwich.

>>15863711
1% faggot

>>15863577
I agree with you
t. American

>>15863736
What about roast beef on a kaiser? Is that a burger?

I'll take mine with extra pickles please.

>>15863696
>burgers are now defined by the fucking bun
No.

>>15863758
If the roast beef is ground up and shaped into a patty, then yes.

Burger [1930s (originally US)] - a dish consisting of a round patty of ground beef, or sometimes another savory ingredient, that is fried or grilled and typically served in a split bun or roll with various condiments and toppings.
>t. Oxford Dictionary

>another savory ingredient, that is fried or grilled
I believe fried chicken qualifies as “another savory ingredient that is fried or grilled”

>>15863890
Based research anon.

>>15863890

>>15863890
>a round patty of ground beef, or sometimes another savory ingredient
In other words, an ingredient that isn't beef but which is ground

>>15863905
>definition literally states fried or grilled
>posts steamed lobster
Not sure I follow, friend.

>>15863916
Stop being so based.
You're embarrassing the Americans on their own website.

>>15863913
No..
Do they not teach sentence diagramming anymore?
Commas are important.
“Round patty of ground beef” and “another savory ingredient” are distinctly separate items of which a burger can consist.
It does not mean “a round patty of ground beef or sometimes [a round patty] of another [ground] savory ingredient”.

>>15863916
>>15863926
>doesn't know lobster can be grilled

>>15863934
That looks so good

>>15863934
>thinks someone referring to an image of steamed lobster as ‘steamed lobster’ somehow means they don’t know grills exist

>>15863934
>definition states “typically served with various condiments and toppings”
>posts a dish where the fried savory ingredient is, itself, a topping. The topmost topping, in fact.
If you throw shrimp on top of a salad, it’s salad with shrimp, but still a salad.
If you throw a salad into a bun/roll, it’s a veggie sandwich.
So I believe you posted a veggie sandwich with shrimp.

blame language, not food

>>15863964
Yes, by objective established definition, it is. It’s literally ground beef. Just not compressed.
>>15864005
Hey man, I didn’t write the dictionary. Go take it up with the fart-sniffing academics at Oxford.

>>15864016
>doesn't know what a po' boy is
Just stop embarrassing yourself.

>>15864035
>gets buttblasted to oblivion
>Go take it up with the fart-sniffing academics at Oxford, that I quoted

>>15863877
It's very difficult to make a patty out of cooked beef.

>>15863930
>The Oxford comma? In the Oxford dictionary? I don't believe it!
The people at Oxford should know better, but unfortunately, the possibility of this being a series comma opens the possibility of the other savoury ingredient needing to be ground and shaped into a patty. This would mean that Sloppy Joes are not burgers, and neither are chicken sandwiches.

>>15863557
Is this a sandwich?
>>15863575
Disprove it then

>>15863604
Its just a label moron. Who cares.

>>15864158
That would only be the case if you're a fucking retard.

>>15863577
god, I hate your stupid "logic"

>>15864274
So if I'm a retard, then Sloppy Joes and chicken sandwiches are sandwiches. It seems an odd thing to hinge conditional categorization on.

>>15863668
If I ask for a chicken sandwich, you had better give me chicken between sliced bread. There's gonna be trouble otherwise.

At best, you may call a chicken patty on a hamburger bun a chicken bun or maybe a chicken roll. It is in no way a sandwich.

Checkmate atheists

>>15864471
So everything served in a roll is automatically not a sandwich. Interesting use of your autism.

>>15864510
Yes. It's called English. Learn it.

>>15863532
This, but the opposite.

>>15864516
Are you going to tell all the bakeries making sandwich rolls that their life's work is a lie, or do I have to?

>>15864036
I know what a po’ boy is, fagboi. I’m not the one who asserted it’s a burger.

>>15864523
If the chicken is processed and recombined into a patty (it is KFC after all) before frying, it could be considered a burger... just playing devil's advocate here, because it's fun.

>>15864052
>that I quoted
You seem to have the impression that how correct someone is depends on how much you like them.
I don’t care for people who live in academia. But they do make the rules as far as language goes.

>>15864541
Yes, left is turkey burger (ground meat) and right is turkey sandwich (sliced breast)

>>15864541
>>15864557
Oops wrong picture

>>15863577
>Americans are fucking morons

>>15864557
There's nothing on the right. What I was getting at is that if you were to chop or mash (think pink slime) the raw breast, and recombine it before breading and frying, then it's technically a breaded patty masquerading as a fried slab of meat. On a roll, it would be a burger dressed up like a sandwich.

>>15864586
I fixed it here >>15864565
My argument is that in order to be a burger it must go through a grinder

>>15864625
which reconstituted meat would have, then it's pressed firmly back into a meat-like shape, with the help of a little meat glue.

>>15863532
>>15863577
Yes they are fucking morons. pic related is a sandwich. FUCK all you retards that disagree

>>15864698
>meat sandwiched between bread
>checks out
>but what if it were sandwiched into a bun?

>>15864625
>>15863913
these people are correct. the definition >>15863890 posted says that a burger MUST meet the following criteria:
1: consists of a patty of ground beef
1A: or another savory ingredient instead of beef in the same application (GROUND PATTY)
2: that is fried or grilled
3: served on a roll or bun

so, a chuckwagon is a burger. a mcchicken is a burger. a minced fish patty sandwich can be a burger. BUT, a sloppy joe is not a burger because it is not pattied and fried. A fried chicken breast sandwhich is not a burger because it is not ground and pattied. A meatloaf sandwich is typically not a burger because the meat is not grilled or fried.

you fags can't debate me. I am right and you are wrong

Sandwich.

>>15864732
Is a chicken sandwich made from processed white meat a grey area?

>>15863577
>>15863696
>>15863707
What’s a sloppy joe to you? Or a pulled pork sandwich?

>>15864813
>What’s a sloppy joe to you?
A shitty beef burger.
>Or a pulled pork sandwich?]
A shitty bacon burger.

>>15865035
You yourself, are just an undercooked, bunless burger.

>>15864813
>Dude what if we put something inside the burger buns that falls out as soon as you try to eat it lmao

>>15865073
Are you retarded or 5 years old or both?

>>15865104
Are you? What kind of retard puts sloppy meat that slides out onto the floor inside two slices of bread?

>>15863577
Then what the fuck is a sandwich

>>15864779
If it's like one of those chicken nugget patties they have at cafeterias and fast food places, personally I don't want to call it a burger but it fits all of the criteria. so yeah, I guess it's a burger

>>15863532
>>15863577
>>15863696
>>15864471
>>15864516
Correct

>>15863668
>>15863681
>>15863865
>>15864732
Incorrect

>>15865117
>sloppy meat that slides out onto the floor
so hard rn

>I didn't realise you needed id to buy mountain dew in the UK.
Didn't even know they sold it.
It's a restriction on high caffeine drinks specifically those that appeal to children (like whatever this mountain dew stuff is). The age limit is 16, not 18.
Its supid really because there's no restriction on coffee.

>>15865073
So a torta?

>>15865126
Stuff inside or atop bread. Stuffed rolls, burgers and sausages are subsets of the sandwich category.

>>15864510
>So everything served in a roll is automatically not a sandwich.
Correct

>>15864535
They're called rolls, not sandwiches

>>15864698
Correct

>>15864721
>>but what if it were sandwiched into a bun?
Then it would be a roll, not a sandwich. A cheese and ham roll is where you put cheese and ham in a roll. A cheese and ham sandwich uses sliced bread.

>>15864813
>What’s a sloppy joe to you? Or a pulled pork sandwich?
Neither of these things really exist in the UK, especially the sloppy joe (the pulled pork thing, I assume you can get from some hipster places in London). But they're both rolls, really. Not sandwiches. Sandwiches are made with sliced bread.

this is quite possibly the most retarded thread ive ever seen on 4chan. it blows my mind how much energy was put into debating the definition of burger and sandwich. fucking kill yourselves.

>>15865152
Autism doesn't account for grey areas... suicide is indeed our only hope.

>>15865137
Nah, a roll is a roll. It's only a sandwich if it's between two slices of bread.

>>15865170
A roll is a small loaf of bread that you slice horizontally to put things in.

>>15865126
>Then what the fuck is a sandwich
Bread, butter, your preferred flavour of Walkers crisps. For me, it's cheese and onion.

>>15865190
if you swap chips for crisps is it a butty, or still a sandwich?

>>15865170
What about open-faced sandwiches?

>>15865193
If you use sliced bread it's a chip sandwich, if you use a bun it's a chip butty.

>>15865212
I'm glad this will never come up for me. Brb, murdering John Montagu.

that burger is from pakistan. i went there once to talk with my buddy cause i had a month to spare and kashmir looked pretty. tasted better than american kfc. the one i went too was 4 stories tall, with 3 dining areas and a kids playroom. they sold chocolate orange pies there too. good times.

>>15863532
Burgers are sandwiches. If we look at the chart in >>15863622 we see it's Structure Purist (two piece of baked product with toppings between) and Ingredient Purist with meat (chicken), lettuce and condiments (tandoori sauce and the spicy zinger sauce).
The only absolute retard-tier complaint you could make is that since the chicken is breaded it's not a sandwich since breading is not a classic sandwich topping.

>>15864496
That's not a hot dog, you're Structure Purist and Ingredient Neutral.

>>15864471
What the fuck is brioche then? The majority of the time it's done in bun form but is also done in loaf form. How is slicing one and putting toppings between it a sandwich but the other is not?

>>15865209
Legal precedent from 2006 that afaik hasn't been overturned says open-faced sandwiches, or properly called tartines, burritos and any other sandwich-adjacent food made with only a single piece of bread/baked good is not a sandwich.

>>15865463
Please don't make me look this up. I don't know if I'd be more disappointed with: this being true or false.

Don't mind me, just eating my Tuna Burger.

>>15865991
Round 2:
What is the true definition of a steak?

>>15863905
What a fucking monstrosity. Lobster should only be cooked on the bbq, then dipped in melted butter.

>>15863577
>Meat between two circular buns makes it a burger.
this is a "burger" according to 1000 IQ anon

>>15866128
a cross-cut of meat of any variety. if salmon cuts are steak, then yes - porkchops are steak.

>>15866249
>porkchops are steak

>>15863532
>This contains chicken, not bird.

>>15863532
Tandoori Zinger sounds based, what country? We only ever have the standard one in Canada

>>15866242
No, it has to be two buns. That's just a single bun that's been split.

>>15866242
yeah? it is

>>15866338
why is salmon and beef steak but pork isn't? think about that long and hard.
the answer is this "rule" is dumb. if a fried crosscut of salmon counts as a steak, then so does pork.

>>15867361

>tandoori

holy shit, where do I get this?

>>15867361
Pork and lamb loin crosscuts tend to be called chops, they're functionally the same as a steak.

>>15864545
lmao no they dont dumbass. the only reason we're having this thread is because no one makes the fucking rules on language, this shits dynamic. hell if i wanted i can just call chicken sandwiches zambos and as long as other people did it as well then those dickheads would have to add it. at the end of the day thats all they do, they just try to keep up with the everchanging never stagnet langauge we use

>>15863577

absolutely retarded if you actually think this. kys faggot

>>15867594
>stagnet
Stagnant. You're not changing that one; not today.

yes, everyone on the planet agrees with you except mutts

>>15863532
>>15863577
>>15863696
>>15865129
>>15868251

>>15864471
What kind of mongrel calls it a chicken bun?

An Ice cream taco is a sandwich

>>15865429
A brioche is a bun. What are you confused about? It's a shitty style of bun, but clearly a bun.

>>15863687
>flatbread for sandwiches
are you retarded

>>15869796
Look at this d00d, never saw a brioche loaf before. Do you live in your parents' basement or what?