/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>15738598
Ask yourself: Do I eat rice regularly? If the answer is yes or you're just Asian, go ahead and get a decent mid-range one. If not, stick to the stove

>Am I missing out by cooking rice on the stove in a pot instead?
Not really in terms of quality. But for me, it's worth the $20 and a bit of cabinet space for the convenience of good rice without any effort.

catfaggots are subhuman

I paid $120 for a Zoji in 2008. It still works perfectly and cooks great rice with the benefit of freeing up a burner. I think its a fantastic value.

Dont cheap out on those $30 Chinese ones though, they fucking suck. Get a Tiger or Zoji; its worth it.

any zojirushi cooker, even the $50 ones

>>15738598
I have an $800 rice cooker. The rice that comes out of it is noticeably different than the rice that comes out of my old $200 one, but I live in Japan and eat rice every day.
If you are not using the specific rice that these expensive rice cookers are made for, there is really not much point.
traditionally, rice was cooked in a thick iron pot over a fire. The expensive Japanese rice cookers are designed to emulate that, and have various features specific to domestic rice and preparation methods.
if you are cooking American long grain rice, the stove on the pot is fine. The important thing is getting the timing right, because the amount of water, the pre-soak, the cooking time, all of these are variables that impact the rice flavor and texture far more than whether your cooker is expensive.

>>15738654
i own a cat

>>15738598
get a zoji

/thread

>>15738840
Based

Love mine

>>15738840
No, no /thread.
Our eurofriends can’t get Zoji. The few models they’re offered are insanely overpriced and obsolete by a decade.
Eurofriends need to look at YumAsia, unless they want to pay with an organ.

>>15738598
i know a fuckton of first generation immigrant chinese and none of them have a zojirushi or similar expensive rice cooker, but also not a cheapo walmart one either. never bothered to look at what brands either.

>>15738719
Link model
Interested in what 800 will get you over a 200

>>15738897
>I know a ton of people from China and none of them have an expensive rice cooker that isn’t marketed in China
Utterly shocking.

>>15738907
yeah, so they basically have the same exposure to zojirushi and etc as any white person. yet they dont use them.

>>15738676
Tiger is also pretty comparable.
I currently have a Zojirushi. The rice isn't unfathomably better than when I had a little $20 Aroma, but it more consistently comes out good. Between that and the delay timer I feel like it was worth the $130.

>>15738901
Zoujirushi NW-KB10
It comes up listed for less now because the model seems to have been replaced, but it was approximately $800 retail at the time.

>>15738598
>missing out by cooking rice on the stove
You are missing convenience.
You need to be at the stove at the right time to switch it off.
There are slight improvements in quality going to a Cuckoo, Tiger, or Zojirushi. If you pay less than $1/lb for rice, you will not notice the quality improvements. If you pay more than that, you will kick yourself for not having bought a $600 rice cooker a decade ago.

If you have an oven that can switch itself off with a timer, look into baking your rice to get the convenience and most of the convenience and quality improvements without buying a rice cooker. (Skip the butter for a fair A/B comparison.)

>>15738997
You bought it when prices were high.
https://kakaku.com/item/J0000030156/

>>15739059
Not quite
https://s.kakaku.com/item/K0001152633/pricehistory/
It originally retailed for almost $1200, after the initial price drop it kind of wavered around, but it’s being replaced in the lineup now.
With tax, etc. it was around 8 man yen, but it may have come with some bonus points (basically in-store credit on subsequent purchases) to offset it.

>>15739109
価格コムの見方を知ってるという事は日本人かな?
日本の電化製品は大体三段階か四段階の値下がりをするんだよね
単なるスペックだけだと今はコレが安いけど...何故か重量が2キロも違う
https://kakaku.com/item/J0000033030/
もしかしたら廉価版かもしれない

>>15738598
that cat would rather take a nap inside the rice than take a bite

>>15738598
my mom got me a basic zojirushi rice cooker for my birthday and I think it's definitely worth it. I never really screwed up making rice on the stovetop but it's consistent and doesn't need to be babysat.

Why would you waste money and room on a rice cooker? What else can you cook with that?

I always just use a steel pot and add the correct amount of water. Never fails and it's not hard. So unless a rice cooker is handy for dozens of other things it's worth -20$ to me.

>>15738654
DICKERED

>>15739157
I’m not Japanese but I can read it well enough I guess. I’ll spare you my awful grammar and syntax and reply in English. Yes, the model you posted is a year newer and is cheaper, it seems to have 4 IH heater elements instead of 3 in mine. I notice that the catchcopy on mine specifies that it emulates the heat distribution of a かまど, which may mean that the 2 kilograms of extra weight are increased metal thickness for the heating mechanism. In general, I have noticed that more expensive rice cookers are usually heavier as the mass of the pot and heating elements is specifically pointed out as a marketing point.
I can’t say which is better but the rice that comes out of the cooker I have is very similar in flavor and texture to the rice served at a ryokan. There is also a noticeable sheen to its appearance that it didn’t have before.

>>15739230
my fucking sides kek

>>15739221
>I always just use a steel pot and add the correct amount of water.
You, sir, "care" and "have skills".
Many people* struggle with such basic aspects of the ricemaking process as "counting the number of scoops of rice" and "filling with water to the correct line" that using a pot without a line would overwhelm them.
They are barely able to close the lid on the rice cooker and press the start button. Expecting them to use a stove and a timer is simply out of the question.


*Women.

>>15739290
It's better than the English I put through my translator LOL

You're right, the number of induction heaters seems to be different.
But I suppose it's only a small difference in reality!
It's possible that three are actually more efficient than one.

We are starting to worry about which company to choose for our rice cooker as the warranty on the pot expires in two years.

>>15738894
Why not? Are they not allowed in Yuropooria?

>>15738598
>get large plastic micowave tub
>put in 3 cups water per 1 cup rice
>cook 9 minutes
>stir
>cook 2 more minutes
done.

>>15738598
I'm using the Yumasia bamboo. If you're european then picking a Yumasia is a no-brainer.

Lots of different models and affordable too.

>>15739463
Different frequency so you have to get a expensive transformator to make it work.

Holy fuck dont listen to all these faggots. Buy a 40 dollar aroma rice cooker on amazon and call it a day.

>>15739548
The Yumasia Yumcarb is like 60 pounds and has a timer function. The timer alone makes up for its price.

>>15738928
do they really not even use the neuro fuzzy ones? those are not expensive at all, like $150

>>15738598
My cat likes rice too when he isn’t hiding in the couch

>>15739590
AHHHHHHHHHHH I'M GOING INSAAANEEEE

>>15738831
What's his name?

>>15739426
I looked at the maker’s home page and it’s a little more clear now, the NW-KB which I have has been replaced with the new NW-LA which has 6 IH elements and presumably other small improvements.
The NW-PS which you had posted with the 4 heater elements is a cheaper/lighter version of the new NW-LA. The internal pot rim is thinner and some of the pressure control mechanisms have been eliminated among other things. It is lighter because it is a cheaper version. I do not know what effect this could have on rice quality, but in theory even the cheaper version is a pressurized rice cooker with the same 1.0~1.3気圧 specification as the deluxe model.
the multiple IH heater system is a method for stirring the rice around in the pot as it cooks. The IH elements cycle in series and thus the heat source where boiling occurs appears to “move” around within the pot. The increased number of IH elements should in theory improve the “stirring” effect.
I have only used zoujirushi rice cookers for the past few years so I can’t suggest which brand is better, but my rice cooker has a 17-minute “extremely fast” cooking setting that tastes surprisingly good. It is more firm than the proper “normal” setting, but if you are in a hurry the ability to go from dry rice to edible cooked rice in 17 minutes is very helpful.
Normally, automatic rice cookers will tell you to discard the cooked rice after leaving it on 保温 for 14 hours. These pressure models allow cooked rice to be left in the cooker for up to 40 hours without spoiling, which is great if you are busy and set your rice timer in the morning and for some reason you miss dinner that night. You don’t have to throw the rice away, it is still fine even a day later. I have done this and with the new rice cooker, the rice tasted fine more than 24 hours after it was cooked.

>>15739561
shit for a minute I was amazed thinking that the whole rice cooker must have been made out of cast iron before I realized that you were British

>>15738840
Got a Hitachi rice cooker that my mum bought 15 years ago. It was like 300 bucks.

Zojirushi is for poor people, get a Tiger or a Samsung.

>>15738907
What I remember as chinese food growing up as a young kid in Hong Kong

>turtle/shark fin soup
>fried chicken feet
>pig uterus noodles
>fried rice with pork knuckle gristle
>unidentifed fish balls on a stick
>boiled dog meat
>one time, monkey brains

Americans have no idea how bad it really is. No one in china knows what the fuck beef and broccoli is or sweet and sour pork. Chinese food is disgusting. Literally the worst parts to eat of any animal. Makes sense because chinks are the race of humans closest to animals. They make disgusting noises when they eat, slurp everything, men in the streets lift their fucking wife beaters over their sweaty stomachs while laughing and chewing with their mouths full of food. Like what kind of idiot decided 2 sticks is the most practical way to eat grains of fucking rice. Starving Nigerians who eat grass have a better diet than the average chinese.

>>15740096
in the Japanese market the high-end zoujirushi are some of the most expensive ones
I have never seen Samsung for sale here because lol at cooking Japanese rice with a Korean pot

>>15740264
Not in recent years, Panasonic and tiger both have higher end models that out price zoji.

>>15740352
I’m looking on Amazon.jp right now and all three brands seem to top out at around $800, but there are some overseas 230 volt Tiger ones that sell for over $1500, double what the japan market model costs.
but I have no confidence in these numbers because Amazon.jp marketplace sellers constantly run overpricing scams
I’ll have to take your word for it.

>>15738598
It's one of the few kitchen gadgets I own.
The main benefit is the timer, it means you can put rice on first and not worry about it while you are doing other things.
Because you can also steam eggs, vegetables and pork sausage in the same pot it can make an incredibly easy meal.
I've been using a $20 rice cooker for five or more years
>>15738719
>$800 rice cooker
ISHIGIDY
You could buy almost a metric ton of rice for that, fucking gaijin.

>>15740411
>You could buy almost a metric ton of rice for that, fucking gaijin.
As only domestic rice is available to consumers, you could only buy around 200 kilograms of rice for $800.
A 10-kilogram bag retails for around $40
If you got a really good deal you might be able to score around 250 kilograms

>>15739590
Thumbnail looks like creampie

>>15738654

>dog people talking shit again

>>15738654
Based riceshitter

>>15738928
>Chinese people tend to buy Chinese shit because Chinese
Even more utterly shocking.

>>15739410
The simple fact is I enjoy much better rice than you.
You can cope and strawman all you want.

>>15739463
Different electrical standards. Zoji isn’t going to make a bunch of different plugs for relatively small markers.

>>15740808
Don't they make some for the Chinese and korean markets?
Mainland China is 220v/50hz
South Korea is 220v/60hz
Vietnam is 220v/50hz
Indonesia is 230v/50hz
Does zoji ignore these markets too?

If zoji ONLY makes 100-120v models that leaves japan itself (obviously), taiwan, Canada, and the US. And I guess parts of latin America.

Seems pretty retarded to leave out MOST of the world.

>>15739615
bipocman

>>15740838
They were made.
Since Korea and China have started to produce high quality rice cookers, only the older models are currently being exported.
https://search.rakuten.co.jp/search/mall/%E4%B8%AD%E5%9B%BD++%E7%82%8A%E9%A3%AF+%E5%99%A8/-/tg1004765/?s=3

>>15740838
They’ve made a few.
It isn’t worth the investment in completely changing the power internals to make country-specific versions.
Many Chinese and Koreans make shopping trips to Japan for larger-ticket items, and frequently buy Japanese rice cookers and it’s on them to buy the power converters.
So Zoji is still selling to a lot of Chinese/Koreans without having to make special models.

Making a special model results in much higher prices; pic related. It’s a store in Osaka that sells items made for Korean/Chinese electric standards.
Tiger has to sell these special ones for twice as much to make up for the production cost, since they don’t manufacture nearly as many.

>>15740802
>I enjoy much better rice than you.
My rice is about the same, with or without the fancy cooker.
My wife's rice is markedly improved with the fancy cooker.

Some people aren't willing to put in the effort. Their husbands who want good quality rice buy them rice cookers.

>>15741136
>My rice is about the same, with or without the fancy cooker
A bit doubtful, unless by “fancy cooker” you’re referring to an inexpensive one.
>My wife's rice is markedly improved with the fancy cooker
>Some people aren’t willing to put in the effort
Why marry someone lazy?

I own a $100 xiaomi rice cooker

I like how it looks, it's easy to operate and I can fill it up in the morning, then start it up from my phone when I'm leaving the office

>>15741233
I have two of their smart lightbulbs. Their pricepoint is good, but judging by the quality of their phone app, I wouldn't trust that not to burn down your home.

>>15741250
oh yeah I have a whole bunch of their bulbs as well.

I agree that their app is clunky as shit, but the rice cooker is built solid. If it was really that unsafe to use I'd expect articles on it on the internet since the brand is fairly spread out over the globe

>>15741197
>Why marry someone lazy?
She seemed ok during the interview.
Turns out that I do means I won't.

Divorce is expensive and not worth it until I select a replacement.

Do the Zoji models have safe bowls with no lead or cadmium or anything else toxic in them?

>>15741966
They have a non-stick coating, but since they never go above boiling temp, it's not an issue really.

>>15741920
>Turns out that I do means I won't.
Gotcha. Been there. Mine wasn’t lazy, just married to her career.
>not worth it until I select a replacement.
Same general rule as a rice cooker. Upgrade to a consistently reliable Japanese model. Worked for me.

>>15741966
Japan isn’t China; they have serious QC and don’t appreciate poison in their cookware.

>>15740248
>men in the streets lift their fucking wife beaters over their sweaty stomachs while laughing and chewing with their mouths full of food
I don't miss that at all. I've seen way too many stomachs I shouldn't have seen.

>>15741250
>>15741264
Do "smart lightbulbs" actually serve a purpose? Sounds like the kind of IoT shit that's primary purpose is mining bitcoin for Russian hackers.

>>15742002
Where's the test results then?

>>15742080
>where’s the special test they did just for the fun of it to prove their product isn’t poisonous and illegally harming millions of Japanese and then had translated to English for extra fun
Hang on a min, I have a certified copy around here somewhere.

>>15740096
Tiger is for poorfags lol

>>15742134
Go on, I'll wait. Inferior chinks are eating rice from bowls lined with pfoas and PTFE coatings, whilst i made perfect rice in a simple pot.

>>15742246
the concern with those coatings is with high heat, which is why you shouldn't try to use non-stick pans for any sort of high heat frying.

But a rice cooker never goes beyond 100C (boiling point of water) so there should be zero concern.

>>15739615
poop man

>>15742246
>bowls lined with pfoas and PTFE coatings
Where are your test results?
>i made perfect rice in a simple pot.
Lol no. You made poverty rice.

>>15738598
Which cooker is that in OP pic?

>>15742639
Sorry you dumb chink, but good rice existed before rice cookers. Deal with it.

>>15743108
>good rice existed before rice cookers
no it didn't. why do poorfags seethe at every appliance

>>15743108
it did, but it wasn't made in a shitty aluminum pot

>>15741086
If you go to an appliance store in Japan, just like in your picture, you'll find both 110 and 220 versions of many appliances to cater to foreigners buying appliances to take home.

>>15743333
But they're too lazy to actually sell them in Europe?

>>15743333
That is, until about 2018.

>>15738598
More expensive rice cookers are usually worth the cost if you're going to be using them extensively. They're convenient, and the ability to hold rice warm without burning it, recooking it, turn it to mush, etc is great, but if you only eat rice every once in a while and don't know/care the difference between grains, you're probably better off just better cooking it on the stove as needed

>>15738598
A zojirushi/tiger/cuckoo with micom/fuzzy logic is the best you can get without going all out like a madman

Anything without a chip in it is pretty much the same outside of construction quality

>>15743333
>if you go to a place like where you took your picture, you’ll see what’s in the picture you took
I’m afraid I don’t quite see your point.

>>15742155
>t. never lived in japan

>>15745941
Zojirushi and Tiger are like Toyota and Honda when it comes to cars.
In Japan, there are also Panasonic, Mitsubishi, Hitachi and Toshiba, all competing with each other.

Is cuckoo a Hyundai?
The one that made Tiger Woods fall... No, the great car that saved his life lmao!

>>15738598
i got a $20-50 one (forgot the price) and usually make some kind of medium grain rice once or twice a week with it. i've had it for years. it's just nice to be able to dump rice and water in and do something else until it beeps. cfb to learn how to cook stove rice at this point desu. here's a pic of my shitty anime omelette with fantastic rice.

>>15746204
>Is cuckoo a Hyundai?
Yes, but generally people going for Cuckoo aren't going for a base model subcompact Hyundai, they're looking at an Optima.
Voice navigation in 3 languages? Full color screen? These are not base model trim.

My rice cooker was free, except for a box of comet rice (for the boxtop) and postage and handling.

I eat rice almost everyday and I think that getting a rice cooker is a waste of money if you don't have extra cash flying around. Just use a pot

>>15746337
I'm agree
So people who don't care about materials or performance are buying it.

>>15738598
where do i buy cat rice

>>15738598
Cheapshit is just fine if you're only gonna cook rice. The fancy shit is for doing multiple stuff like slowcooking, stewing, steaming buns, baking and deepfrying.

>>15746502
China. Or slaughter a cat yourself.

>>15742282
>non-stick pans for any sort of high heat frying.
Rice sticks the pot after cooking. The coatings are easily scratched off with just a nylon scrubber. That's bad.
>>15742246
Cheap ricecookers don't have any coating either. Especially not the old fashioned ones that's been produced since the 60s. You don't need to spend 190 000 yen to find a ricecooker without the shitty coatings.

This is the one I have. I very rarely use the right amount of water for it though.

>>15746502
I managed to find the bonito flake at my normal flyover grocery store.
It's a biggish store with a good asian section, though.
(Cat rice is a dish. Look it up.)

If you want quality, you cook it on your stove, if you want convenience, you can sit one of these monstrosities atop your microwave.

>>15746906
You have a microwave?
baka desu senpai if you have a stove and a pan you can defrost bread too. Tastes even better that way.

>>15738881
have this exact one. it's based.

>>15746424
Maybe if your time is worthless

Cooking rice in a pot everyday wastes at least 5-15 minutes more than a rice cooker, and as you said, that's EVERY day. Even assuming ONLY 5 minutes a day, that's 30 hours a year. And at the higher end could be approaching 100 hours a year. Even if you value your time at just $5/hr you've paid for the rice cooker multiple times in the first year alone

>>15742018
Sure, I have a couple hooked up to motion sensors as well as google assistant; Haven't touched a light switch in over a year.

In the morning they turn on and gradually get brighter so I wake up easier, when the sun is down the hallway light goes on when I pass by and whenever I go to sleep I can turn everything off again just by telling the voice assistant.

It's a great way to get lazier

>>15739410
When the electric rice cooker was invented, the average japanese home was still using wood fired stoves. A woman could almost never leave the house, she had to tend the fire all day for cooking and hot water. Cooking rice was especially bothersome because you had to watch it carefully and regulate the temperature of the fire the whole time.
Say what you will, but the ease and convenience of electric rice cookers was unironically a revolution in women's quality of life.

>>15746906
Bait

>>15747829
wat
the bulk of the time spent preparing rice is washing the rice, filling the pot, turning the pot on and washing the pot afterward
you have to do all of these things regardless of which kind of pot you use

>>15747860
Then you're making shit rice and pretending it's the same as what you'd get from a good rice cooker.


To make excellent rice on the stove top requires precise temperature control, timing, and proper dry:wet ratio. All of this can be affected by ambient humidity/temp, altitude, and the rice crop itself. Further different rice crops (even from the same breed and company) can differ in how it will cook.

A good rice cooker takes care of most of this with minimal if any thought/effort.

If you're some retard that just throws rice in a pot with water and adds heat, then your rice simply isn't all that good and the only reason you think it is, is because you're insecure and lying to yourself, or you're a moron that just doesn't know any better.

And finally, if you're talking about long grain rice like basmati or jasmine, you don't belong in this conversation to begin with, Japanese rice cookers are NOT designed to cook long grain rice (though they can still do it just fine) they're designed to cook Japanese rice prefectly.

>>15747888
sounds like nocook cope

>>15747895
Sounds like you have no idea what you're talking about and simply assume whatever your preconceived notions are must be fact.

>>15747903
i'm not the one that thinks cooking rice is some voodoo magic only achievable by japanese robot overlords

>>15747905
Of course you don't, you're an uneducated moron pretending he knows better.

>>15747908
i didn't realize you needed a phd to steam grain

>>15747912
Of course not.
Any idiot can cook.
Not every idiot can cook well.

>>15747905
2c water
1c rice
dash salt
Covered baking dish
toaster oven 375f 35min

wah laaa

>>15747922
protip if you can't cook rice you can't cook well

>>15747931
pro-tip, no one is talking about cooking basic bitch tier rice.

You don't spend $250-800+ on a rice cooker to cook generic un-evenly cooked rice, which is what 99% of people produce when cooking rice in a pan.

If that's acceptable to you because you don't know any better, enjoy.

But pretending it's just as good as a high tier rice cooker is just retarded on several levels.

>>15747936
you've decided unevenly cooked rice is the norm without a $500 weeb appliance because that's your experience because you can't cook rice

>>15747956
You do not make rice as good as a high-end rice cooker.
I’m sure you think you do, but you do not.

>>15747956
And you've decided unevenly cooked rice is "perfect" because you've never actually had good rice before in your life.

People spend YEARS learning how to perfectly cook rice without a rice cooker, using heavy earthenware pots and iron pots with wooden lids, but no, you with your aluminum garbage and an electric coil stovetop managed to perfect it after your first or second attempt with barely any effort, wow, you must be a culinary god.

>>15747967
and you're projecting your lack of skill onto me because you can't cook rice

>>15747972
Wewlad, I can make great rice in a pot, but it's a ton of effort to watch the heat closely and make sure the bottom doesn't scorch and the top layer is just as evenly cooked as the bottom and middle layers.

Pretending it's ANYWHERE near as simple as a good rice cooker is just fucking retarded.

You pretending you're superior because you don't know any better is laughable at best.

>>15747976
if you think not burning rice is "a ton of effort" it's because you can't cook rice

>>15747987
...if THAT'S what you read in my post then it's no wonder you're here, you actually know full well that you're talking out of your ass and are just baiting


enjoy anon, no point continuing

Who the fuck are these people? Who the fuck cares this much about a rice cooker? Do you also act like this with yout toaster? Your stovetop? What the fuck?

>>15748295
100 iq weebs

>>15748295
>Your stovetop
Richfags buy $50,000+ stoves.

less than $1000 for a rice cooker doesn't even phase a lot of people.

>>15748295
>Do you also act like this with yout toaster?
If I had a high-end toaster and there was a toaster discussion thread, I would indeed discuss my toaster.

>>15748327
The saddest thing about stoves like that is that they’re mainly purchased by people who don’t cook for themselves and simply want the expensive decoration.
My aunt and her husband are obscenely well-off, and their house has the typical richfag “commercial style kitchen”.
They mostly eat at restaurants.

>>15748364
>mainly purchased by people who don’t cook for themselves
even as someone who DOES cook for themselves, if i were that rich i'd 100% have one of those stoves/ranges and probably just pay for a professional chef to cook for me most of the time.

People in this thread forgetting that a big benefit of a rice cooker is it frees up a burner and counter space. It can be placed anywhere with an outlet and about a square foot of space and cook perfect rice. Big benefit if you live in a small apartment or cook meals requiring several burners.

Looking to buy my first rice cooker with my Biden bucks. Was looking at the Zojirushi NP-HCC18XH. Any good?

>>15749603
Do you have a huge household?
"10" size machines instead of "18" have a smaller minimum batch size.

>>15749631
3 people but we like to have left over rice

>>15749664
>we like to have left over rice

Me, too.

It probably doesn't need to be said, but when you cook rice and are getting ready to put the extra rice in the refrigerator for tomorrow, make sure that you fluff the rice in the container first. I you don't fluff it first, it kind of becomes one block. You can still separate it, but it's much nicer to be able to just spoon out however much you need the next day.

I wish someone had told me about this ten years ago.

>>15749664
Same here, but when I got a rice cooker I found it's easy enough to just make it freshbwhen you want it I don't really save rice that much anymore

>>15749857

Do you ever make fried rice?

>>15749864
Not often really

>>15749603
I have the 1L model and i really like it.

Great rice, 3 levels of "doneness", has a dedicated "Jasmine" rice setting, and can do GABA brown, rice porridge, etc.

here's my rice cooker, fucking faggots

>>15751497
you've impressed everyone in the thread, good job

>>15751507
enjoy making something so bland in a 100+ dollar cooker that i can replicate in the same way for a fraction of the price

>>15751522
Enjoy your poverty-tier uncle Bens garbage.

>>15751537
except its not, its the same product cooked the same way that you do. seethe more kiddo

>>15751541
You also buy premium japanese new crop short grain breeds?

>>15751561
no, but if i wanted to be an absolute fucking faggot, i could. and it would be cooked the same way

>>15751572
>all rice cooks the same
lmao whatever you say retard.

enjoy your shitty whiteboi or indian rice.

>>15751576
nice reading comprehension. i'll write it out a bit more to your level. Whatever overpriced rice you buy for your overpriced ricecooker, a pot and lid can do the same thing. a 10 dollar pot and lid does the same thing as your ricecooker. but hey enjoy your rich kid hobbies, it's quite impressive and unique

>>15751595
no, no it doesn't, and you're delusional if you think it does.

>>15751572
So yes, your rice is poverty-tier.
You clearly don’t care about eating great rice. So why are you so bitter toward those who do?

>>15751608
>>15751617
you wouldn't need to validate your purchase if you didn't have doubts. im not the one that needs convincing. you bought it, now suck it up and deal with the realities little boy

>>15748295
It's like people trying to get best in slot IRL

>>15751649
I just came here to laugh at morons pretending they can make perfect rice on their stove top in a $10 pot.

I've been using zojirushi's for literally my entire life.

>letting animals in your kitchen
you people disgust me

>>15751649
>reverse NO U
I’m not validating shit, I’m just telling you you’re retarded.
There’s nothing to validate. I get to enjoy rice far better than whatever gruel you make.

>>15751705
It’s interesting how cats correlate with good rice.
It’s like how shitbulls correlate with shitty stovetop long-grain.

>>15739463
Euro regulation mostly - cookers with keep-warm function are not allowed due to Bacillus Cereus. Pretty much all Asian cookers have that function though.

>>15751979
Bullshite, my bamboo has a keep warm function.
Didn't induction zoji's not get passed because of health regulations?

>>15751705
>HITACHI RZ-H10BJ 137.60 USD
https://kakaku.com/item/K0001112211/

Although it is cheap, it has sufficient performance, so it is a waste to use as a toilet for cats.

>>15752047
Anon is just being retarded.
Zoji doesn’t bother converting models to the European market electrical standards because there simply isn’t enough sales potential to make it worth the trouble.
YumAsia fills the niche, and does so for cheaper than the Japanese brands can. So there’s zero point in them going through the trouble of trying to compete.

>>15752067
Japanese technology and engineers have already flowed out to China, so there will be some performance.
But we don't know if they will guarantee any explosion or toxicity issues.

>>15752059
>Hitachi rice cooker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4cnWTG8VUY

in 2008 i bought a $200 Zoji from Fry's (RIP) as a gift to myself before heading off to college

i've probably cooked well over 800 pots of rice with it by now and it still comes out just like the day i bought it - fucking delicious and perfectly sticky

>>15746889
>right amount of water for it though.
You can literally google it.

>>15747895
Pro cooks and restaurants use rice cookers.
Sauce: I'm asian and worked for SEA KFC which sells lice.
https://www.kfc.com.sg/Menu/For-One/Bowls/Original-Recipe-Rice-Bowl-Meal

>>15752989
>which sells lice
damn i knew KFC was some nasty shit but...

>>15747976
>bottom doesn't scorch
Claypot rice dishes are meant to be slightly burnt.
You're all ignorant.
https://youtu.be/LOvRuwvu56g

>>15748295
Why yes, I only toast bread with a campfire like a manly man chef!!!!

>>15738831
Black cats are kewl.

>>15752980
No way.

>>15753000
That's not at all true, it is true for SOME dishes, but as a blanket statement that's just fucking wrong.

Well, you all won me over; I just ordered a Kumo YumCarb.
I'm curious how much better the rice will taste.

>>15753000
It depends on the heat.
Also, if you add soy sauce or sugar, it will burn more easily.

>>15747843
so you're a poor japanese woman in the 1950s?

>>15753141
No TV, No Radio
Barely I find cars around here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzRVEQDxiOo

>>15752989
wow no shit i would too if i was cooking dozens of pounds of it every month

>>15753545
...do you think people buy $500+ rice cookers and then only cook rice once a month?

>>15753660
it wouldn't surprise me one bit

>>15753666
Sure, I guess it probably does happen, but most people that own a high end rice cooker are making rice at LEAST multiple times per week, if not daily.

>>15738598
$20 tops any more it better be sucking your dick and doing the washing up afterwards.
Even that is a waste of money because nearly every smart Asian knows how to do this with a $10 pot and a lid.
Perfect rice everytime.
You westerners are so retarded.

>>15738598
Get one. I bought a used zoji (jap name brand) for $40 and its so much better than made in a pot. You'll ask yourself.. why the hell didn't I get one of these sooner.

>>15753711
>nearly every smart Asian knows how to do this with a $10 pot and a lid.
Then why does every Japanese and korean household own a rice cooker?

The only asians that don't own rice cookers are literal peasant farmers.

>>15753721
because japanese kitchens look like pic related lmao

>>15753813
>if I say it, then it must be true

>>15753834
>doesn't understand hyperbole
>posts another dink ass kitchen

>>15738644
>cooking rice on the stove

don't listen to this dumbass anon. Even a shitty $20 walmart rice cooker will make better rice. Not to mention you dont have to watch it fucking cook

>>15753813
The first room I ever rented was like that.
Other than that room, it's pretty much like this.

>>15739615
Lovecraftman

A lot of rice cookers have been using the same technology for years. There's a good Technology Connections video on this.

I'd actually look into an instantpot if you want versatility. But if you're dead set on making rice only, yeah a cheap-o rice cooker will do the job but I still recommend the Instantpot if you don't mind the extra space. Otherwise, I think sushi rice might be better in a rice maker.

>>15738840
>NP-HCC10
How is this model? The next step up NP-NWC10/18 has a pressure feature but its almost twice the price. Also I hear that only a few of the presets use pressure. I think I might just go with the HCC10

>>15754402
I have it, and yeah I came to the same conclusion when i was doing my research, I'll wait until the higher end units in japan to come to the US in a few years before upgrading to anything better.

>>15754402
The pressure feature seems to only be necessary for some really specialty applications. I went with the regular induction one too.

>>15753721
>Then why does every Japanese and korean household own a rice cooker?
>The only asians that don't own rice cookers are literal peasant farmers.

In college, I had three roommates from Asia (one from Hong Kong and two from Viet Nam). One of them said that those who are already here provide some general advice to newcomers and one of the first is where to to go buy a rice cooker.

>>15754367
>A lot of rice cookers have been using the same technology for years
The cheap ones use the same sort of tech as the original rice cookers 50+ years ago.
The high end ones advance constantly, and the best ones available in the west are barely “mid range” compared to the Japanese domestic lineup from the same companies.
My parents have an instant pot; it makes decent rice, and is a good recommendation for people who aren’t that particular about rice or don’t buy premium rice.

>>15753711
Literally every Asian household has a rice cooker, fucknut.
Even some dirt-floor shack in China will have a rice cooker hooked up to a stolen car battery hooked up to a stolen solar panel.

>>15738598
got a $30 one from walmart 11 years ago, still works great. When it dies I will get a nicer one though

>>15757041
>got a $30 one from walmart 11 years ago, still works great. When it dies I will get a nicer one though

I got one like that from WalMart, a Black & Decker, that worked really fine.

Unfortunately, I have very limited counter space and so I would set it on the electric stove top to make rice.

One night about a month ago, I had it sitting on the front burner and put some yellow squash on to cook on the burner behind it. Unfortunately, I turned the wrong burner on and didn't realize the mistake before leaving the kitchen to take a leak. When I got back to the kitchen, it was filling with smoke from the burnt plastic on the bottom of the rice cooker.

So I donated that rice cooker to the city (i.e. threw it in the dumpster) and bought another from WalMart.

>>15751979
Dumb desu ne?
The inside of the pot is going to be practically sterile with all the steam, wouldn't it? Plus "keep warm" is 60 C, a temperature at which B. cereus does not grow

>>15753711
In Japan, you can buy a pressure induction rice cooker for about $100, so there is no need to cook rice in a pot.

>>15757327
nah pressure+IH new will run you at least $175.

cheapest current model zoji I could find with pressure and IH.
https://kakaku.com/item/J0000032149/

>>15757381
There are many high-quality rice cookers in Japan, so there is no problem even if it is not a Zojirushi.
The cheapest one right now is iris-ohyama.
https://kakaku.com/kaden/ih-rice-cooker/itemlist.aspx?pdf_Spec101=1&pdf_so=p1

However, Zojirushi, Tiger, Hitachi and Toshiba are sometimes sold at a low price.

By the way, smart people seem to be using discounts to buy this for $87.
https://kakaku.com/item/J0000034718/

>>15757381
If you don't need the pressure function, the price will be like this
$70-
https://kakaku.com/kaden/ih-rice-cooker/itemlist.aspx?pdf_Spec101=2&pdf_so=p1

The fundamental performance would be similar to a 15 year old Japanese rice cooker.

Europeans can also get a korean Cuckoo ricecooker instead from cuckoomall.de

Yumasia can go suck a dick, the Zoji's are really expensive, 300 euro's for a 10 year old model that costs like 160 dollars in US and even cheaper in asia. Don't know about their own models.

>>15758400
What kind of rice cookers are there in Korea other than cuckoo?

>>15738654
someone took this picture,

because some people will save it and share it.

>>15738840
Zoji is a meme now that the Gooks can make damn good ones that can double up as pressure cookers too. Search for the Cuckoo brand.

I think if we call women who fuck black guys "coal burners" then we should also call women who fuck Asians "rice cookers"

>>15758915
High end zojis do the same thing, and are generally cheaper

Cuckoo will talk to you in 3 languages and have a color screen with a recipe book inside.

You're paying for the meme features

>>15758400
The whole point behind them offering their own models is precisely because importing is prohibitively expensive

I have their lower end small Panda cooker, the results are great.

>>15738598
enjoy eating hairballs

I'm looking into the Cuckoo rice cooker, but I can't find anything good besides the meme feature.
It seems that you can adjust the pressure manually, so it may be interesting to try various things.
But it was more like an automatic pressure cooker than a rice cooker.

>>15759241
They're pretty gimmicky

>>15759273
What about materials and technologies?
Japanese rice cookers are explained in detail, but Cuckoo doesn't have it, so I'm curious.

>>15759241
You can make KFC chikken with that.

>>15753660
Yes, /ck/ autists.

>>15753127
>soy sauce or sugar, it will burn more easily.
Yeah, that's the point.

>>15759402
That's just your own headcanon. I highly doubt anyone here does that, or if they do, they're a select minority.

I'm >>15738881 and I make rice 3-5 times a week.

>>15759408
Its not though, plenty of people make plain rice in earthenware pots without scorching the bottom, it just requires luck, or years of practice.

>>15759393
I like karaage better.

>>15747843
I'd rather just keep the women rice cooker. What's next after electric rice cookers? Sex dolls? We shouldn't depend on machines so much.

>>15759241
>I'm looking into the Cuckoo rice cooker
Ha ha, nice meme, bro.

>>15758671
Cuchen is another brand, i dunno man in not korean

>>15759436
Some people are unlucky and prefer spend money instead of years of practice.
Works out just fine.

I'd like one and I eat rice a lot but it seems silly when I already have an instant pot

>>15739548
Don't do this, I ate from an entry level zoj at mom's place my whole life to moving to college, being broke, and buying a shitty cheap aroma and hated all the rice that came from it, eventually I moved in with some friends that had a zoj I threw that shitty aroma away. Aroma is truly pleb shit

>>15747888
>wash rice
>put rice into the pot with correct water ratio
>put lid on
>turn to low when the water starts bubbling
>steam until the water is gone
>fluff the rice
done, perfect everytime. 95% of the cooking is done on the side while you prepare the main dish. If you can't do this and you need a machine worth a few hundred dollars you are a literal retard

>>15762195
except that's PURE bullshit, you're NEVER going to dial your temp in perfectly so you have evenly cooked rice that way, at least not unless you have autistic amounts of practice.

Which is why Japanese autists that want to prepare traditional rice take YEARS learning how to properly control the heat.

>>15762210
you don't know what you're talking about. I worked for a Japanese restaurant for 2 years and that's how we'd make our rice for the staff meal

>>15762224
You're a fucking moron if you actually think stove top rice is anywhere close to a good rice cooker, unless you're some autistic Japanese that has spent years learning how to do it the traditional way, it simply wont be as evenly cooked, and wont taste as good because you cooked it MUCH faster there is a reason rice cookers take more than 3x as long to cook rice, speed is NOT what you want.

>>15762289
you're the autist seething about how to SUPER FUCKING DIFFICULT it is to cook literal rice and how ONLY AUTISTIC JAPANESE PEOPLE WITH STOVES FOLDED OVER 9000 TIMES can do so without a rice cooker.
You're a retard that can't cook and my rice comes out perfect like that every time. Eat shit

>>15762298
it's not perfect, you're just delusional, or don't care. That doesn't make it perfect, that makes you a retard.

> well I like it
Who gives a fuck? Any retard can heat up water in a pot with some rice in it and have moderately decent rice, but it's FAR from fucking "perfect".

Again, just heating it up in a pot on the stove with no pre-soak, no paying attention to temp all-throughout, and no long steam time, it's gonna taste bland as fuck, and be unevenly done, some grains will be chewy, some soft, some might even be burnt on the bottom.

>>15762308
If YOU cook it, yeah I can see that. My rice comes out perfect every time. Fluffy, sticky and not a single piece of burnt rice

>>15762326
lmao, again, delusion.

Enjoy pretending you're eating perfect rice you fucking retard.

>achtually i was just pretending to be retarded to bait you LULULULULU
hilarious

>>15762334
>he's so bad at cooking he can't imagine someone getting perfect rice every time on a stove top
must suck to be you. don't forget to take your meds

>>15762349
because you're just full of shit.

I can cook rice pretty damn well on the stove top, far better than most people, and it's nowhere near as consistent throughout as a rice cooker.

A good rice cooker gives PERFECT rice throughout the entire pot, ZERO variance in grain doneness from grain to grain.

This is nearly impossible to achieve on the stove top unless you have years of practice, and the way they do it is with heavy earthenware pots, or large heavy iron pots, with slow deliberate and precise temperature control.

pretending you're getting the same perfect results from a shitty 3mm thick stainless steel aluminum core pot on your stovetop without any paying attention is just pure delusion.

Again, you just don't care, that doesn't make it perfect though, it just means you don't give a fuck to notice the difference.

>>15762392
you might be mentally disabled if it took you years to learn how to cook rice on a stove top. sorry for making fun of you earlier, i didn't realize you were actually retarded.

>>15762418
There’s a difference between creating perfectly cooked rice, and tossing out poverty-rice, bro.

this guy is so defensive over his unnecessary 200 dollar electric pot purchase lmfao cope harder faggot

>>15762425
There sure is, kid! Tag along now, Retard-kun, and don't forget to take your medication, just like the nice doctor at the mental hospital told you

>>15762433
and you retards have no idea what you're talking about, as if you can magically create perfect rice innately in a pot despite a FUCK ton of evidence saying otherwise.

No one in korea or japan pretends they can make perfect rice on the stove top, they buy a rice cooker and enjoy better rice.

Sounds like you're just butthurt and poor and can't afford a rice cooker, or more likely, you just don't give a fuck about rice and have no place in this conversation to begin with.

No one buys a multi-hundred dollar rice cooker if they don't like good premium rice.

>>15762448
>No one buys a multi-hundred dollar rice cooker if they don't like good premium rice.

I only use mine to steam veggies because using a pot is too difficult

>>15762456
i doubt it, you're just LARPing.

There are far cheaper and easier ways to steam vegetables.

>>15762472
Not if you want good premium steamed veggies, why else would I buy a multi-hundred dollar rice cooker?

>>15762477
To cook rice, the thing it's designed to cook perfectly. A grain that is well known to be difficult to cook perfectly.

Pretending to be retarded to "troll" doesn't make you a master troll, it makes you a retard.

>>15762480
Bro, you don't understand you can't steam vegetables unless you spent YEARS practicing the ancient art of the stove top. Just use a rice cooker bro, it's too hard and you'll never get it right

Threadly reminder.
Japanese rice cookers are NOT designed to cook long grain rice. They're designed to cook Japanese rice. If you're regularly making jasmine, basmati, etc long grain verities, a higher-end rice cooker is not for you.

>>15762480
>A grain that is well known to be difficult to cook perfectly
Cooking rice on the stove is pretty easy. Steaming veggies on the other hand is an ancient japanese art that no man can replicate on the stove

>>15762434
>ha! Take my memes! I win!
Okay.

>>15762486
You're right, BIG RICE has tricked all the Asians in the world into buying a pointless product for DECADES. Only you know better.

>>15739590
Nikocado?

>>15762497
That's like saying boiling water properly is on the stove is difficult and that's why every family in the UK has an electric kettle, and not because they make 10,000 cups of tea per day

>>15762503
Post it.

>>15762497
Well yeah, it’s the same as how BIG APPLIANCE convinced people that machines could wash clothes better than a person, and with less effort.
You don’t use a clothes-washer like some idiot who doesn’t know how to wash clothes, so you?

>>15762509
Ah yes, the japanese are buying $600+ rice cookers because they make rice a lot, not because it makes better rice than the $50 shit-tier models, or the $150-300 models.

>>15762497
Not saying it's pointless, just saying it's not difficult to get perfect rice from a stove top and unless you have the spare cash you'd be wasting your money.

>>15762494
Yes, honey. The memes or whatever. Don't hurt yourself while playing alright

>>15762516
You’re wrong, simple-anon.
Whatever comes out of your stovetop pot doesn’t compare to what comes out of my rice cooker.
I know you think it does, and you’re free to think that. But it doesn’t.

>>15762513
washing clothes takes actual effort, unlike cooking rice

>>15762516
Rice cooker takes 3-4x as long to cook the rice, and makes a better product because of it.

Pretend all you want you have "perfect" stove top rice, but anyone here that actually regularly buys and eats premium japanese rice knows you're full of shit.

>>15762514
Do you really believe that the average family is buying a $600+ rice cooker?

I think the BIG RICE brainwashing you've undergone has caused permanent damage at this point

>>15762522
Well sure, if you’re making simple poverty-rice from uncle Ben.
Why do you fault people who like better rice?

>>15762514
They buy them because they can cook several different types of rice. Same reason if you really liked tea you'd buy a $100+ electric kettle that has temperature control instead of using a $20 one that only gets it to 100C every time.

Stop being obtuse

>>15762529
Of course not, but EVERY japanese and korean manufacturer i can think of makes $500-800 models that boast "fire roasted" type cooking that is more authentic to traditional methods.

>>15762523
>>15762530
I eat Japanese rice and it comes out perfect every time. I've eaten my share of rice cooker rice and I make it just as good. Keep coping over buying an expensive pot however.

>>15762545
whatever makes you feel better about being poor.

>>15762547
think of me the next time you wait for an hour for your rice to cook in an overpriced pot.

>>15762543
I don't understand what your point is anymore. I don't even know what the fuck "fire roasted" rice is meant to mean.

You don't need a rice cooker to make good rice. Simple as that. If you're making rice every day then sure it's a nice convenience, but that's all it is, a convenience.

>>15738598
My Tiger, made in Japan, has a steam basket, so I can steam things make rice too. Was only one fiddy.

>>15762563
Again, NO ONE is saying you need a rice cooker to make good rice.

Anyone can make good rice in a pot on the stove.

however it isn't "perfect" and you CAN easily get BETTER rice from a good rice cooker.

>>15762543
>he fell for the marketing
Oh no... bros who's gonna tell him

>>15762570
>however it isn't "perfect" and you CAN easily get BETTER rice from a good rice cooker.
You can fuck up rice in a rice cooker just as easily as you can on the stove, a rice cooker is just a convenience and nothing more. It's not going to magically shit out "premium" rice if you don't already know how to make rice

>>15762580
who's gonna tell me what? You can't buy these in the west. They're only sold in korea/china/japan/etc

>>15762584
that's pure bullshit.

Are you ACTUALLY saying IH + fuzzy logic does NOTHING?

Wow a microcontroller that monitors temp, pressure, humidity, and time is EXACTLY the same as you sticking a pot on some heat and waiting until the water is gone.
Thanks for your totally worthless opinion

>>15762600
Not saying it does nothing, I'm just saying you still need to know how to make rice properly to use a rice cooker. Using a $80,000 rice cooker isn't going to matter if you're putting in too much or too little water for the type of rice you're making

You're getting way too upset over literal rice here anon

>>15762600
>Are you ACTUALLY saying IH + fuzzy logic does NOTHING?
yeah, you fell for the marketing. thanks for playing

>>15762613

>>15762618
cope

>>15762625
go enjoy your basmati and fuck off

>>15762654
I eat Japanese short grain rice, cooked on the stove top to perfection.

>>15762666
noooo you don't it's not premium only japanese autists that have practiced for 1000 years can make rice on the stove top REEEEEEEEEEE

>>15762666
post what you've got anon

I want to know how much money you're wasting.

>>15762683
ゆめにしき

>>15762701
lmao, enjoy your shit-tier rice

>>15762708
So now you're saying Japanese rice is shit? make up your mind, schizo

>>15762718
That's just about the lowest tier japanese rice you could mention.

Sure, it is japonica rice, but it's not great rice.

>>15762725
Imagine being elitist about rice. While you're paying what, $60 for 10lbs? I'm saving money and buying, get this, LITERALLY the same product. you're getting scammed by the Japanese and you don't even know it.

>>15762732
the fact you think it's litearlly the same product already tells me everything I need to know.

No wonder you think you make just as good rice from the stove top, you're eating shit rice to begin with, and the fact you can't tell a difference between ACTUAL good rice, and that shit, is just more proof you'd never notice a difference between stovetop and a good rice cooker anyway.

No point continuing this conversation, you've proven everything I suspected from the start, you don't care and can't tell the difference.

>>15762748
You're getting scammed. I guess you have cope at this point. The expensive appliances, the overpriced rice. If you sat down and figured out how badly you're getting fucked by literal rice farmers on the other side of the globe you'd have a nervous breakdown. Stay safe out there, anon.

>>15762764
Yep, just like I get "scammed" when I buy USDA prime steaks or Wagyu. Or when I buy nice Canadian light amber maple syrup instead of storebrand "table syrup", or when I buy kerrygold instead of storebrand garbage.


If your opinion were it's not worth the price for the higher quality, that's something else all together, but to claim there is NO difference is ignorance or retardation.

>>15762782
Because the other things you listed have actual value. Just because your rice is grown in LE EBIN AOMORI PREFECTURE or some other meme prefecture doesn't make it better, it's marketing and you're falling hard for it. Japanese rice is Japanese rice, simple as.

>>15762782
You can literally taste the difference between the cheap/expensive version of everything you mentioned here, you can't do that with rice. Rice has no taste, that's why it's the base for a meal and not a meal itself

>>15762795
Again, this comes back to you simply not caring. That's fine, you're allowed an opinion.

but there is 100% a difference in rice, even rice from the same farm and the same prefecture, there can and will be discernable differences in the finished product.

>>15762802
Uhh what?

Japanese people can tell you with near 100% accuracy if you're serving THEIR preferred rice or not.

My father in law knows if his wife had to buy a different brand of rice, even the same breed but from a different company based on taste ALONE.

>>15762811
If that makes you sleep at night after getting scammed hard. You're entitled to your delusions just as I am entitled to my opinion

>>15762826
it's no delusion. the retarded idea that all rice is the same as long as it's japonica is pure fantasy and if you had any actual broad experience with nicer rice, you'd probably know this already.

>>15762820
>same breed
You don't breed rice anon, step away from the hentai for a bit

>>15762826
Anon, you aren’t smarter than most of the world. You especially aren’t more adept at rice than the part of the world eats it multiple times daily.
I know your mom said you’re super special, and you can grow up to be president, or a race car driver, or an astronaut, but you really aren’t that special. Mom was incorrect.

>>15762834
Sure, delusional weeb. Keep buying that rice, Yamada-san needs the cash to max out his NISA account.

>>15762840
http://www.knowledgebank.irri.org/ericeproduction/0.6_Rice_Breeding.htm

>>15762859
Fucking weebs and their breeding fetish

Disgusting

>>15762865
> The International Rice Research Institute (IRRI) is an international agricultural research and training organization with its headquarters in Los Baños, Laguna in the Philippines, and offices in seventeen countries

>>15762840
>He doesn't breed everything he comes across
Unlike most people when I go to a store and pass the cash register I come into money.

>>15762849
>buying a highly marketed, expensive version of [STAPLE FOOD] is retarded
>NO NO NO NO NO THIS IS JAPANESE RICE WERE TALKING ABOUT YOU SEE YOU CAN CLEARLY TASTE THE DIFFERENCE BECAUSE THIS BATCH WAS HARVESTED BY FILIPINO INTERN #13 INSTEAD OF FILIPINO INTERN #14
Get fucking real. You don't see people sperging out over oats in the US. It's like Japan is a magnet for autists.

>>15762876
>the Philippines
Ultra weebs

>>15762889

>>15762885

>>15762904
I accept your concession

>>15762885
>You don't see people sperging out over oats in the US
maybe YOU don't.

>>15762914
Oh oops that wasn't meant for you, was for >>15762877

>>15762918
Oh sorry, nevermind then

>>15762885
>buying a highly marketed, expensive version of [STAPLE FOOD] is retarded
Some people think good cuts of beef are retarded when they can just buy ground tube-meat. They think I’m retarded for buying good meat.
The difference is that I don’t give a shit if they do. If that’s the meat they want to enjoy, cool.
But you seem to be coming from a place of emotional investment.
You clearly care more than someone who “doesn’t care”.
Why is that? Can you answer without spewing memes and insults?

>>15762923
Sorry anon, I agree with you though he's getting scammed by rice farmers and is apparently very happy about it

>>15762924
I care because I hate to see someone getting scammed over a staple food product. There is no merit in buying expensive rice. Again you can't compare it to meat because with meat you can taste the difference quite clearly.

>>15762937
Considering the vast majority of rice farmers in japan refuse to export their rice, I doubt it.

Almost all Japanese rice in the US is grown in California.

>>15762945
Even worse, he's getting scammed by birkenstock-wearing, weed-smoking hippies

>>15762944
>There is no merit in buying expensive rice
based on what?
Your own personal opinion? That's worth literally nothing, just like the retard the buys his tube meat.

>>15741233
that design kinda sexy ngl

>>15762945
They can't compete unfortunately. Rice imports are heavily taxed and domestic rice production is heavily subsidized, that's on top of Japan relying on trade to get their food, allegedly

>>15762953
It has no merit because it's literally the same thing, unlike meat.
Keep buying it though. I have no problem with it. It's just sad to see someone getting fucked over as hard as this.

>>15762969
it's not LITERALLY the same thing, they have different cultivars for a reason, there ARE differences.

And again, there are even differences with the SAME cultivar between crops, or from different farms.

the all rice is the same meme is just said by retards that rarely eat rice because to them all rice IS the same since they have such little experience with it.


Eat rice every day for a few months with some premium rice and some cheap rice and then tell me all rice is the same.

>>15762978
I would, except I'm not willing to hand over money for supposed "premium rice" when I could have the same thing for cheaper. I guess it's true what they say, a sucker is born every minute.

>>15762962
>Rice imports are heavily taxed
Why is that? Don't we want all Americans to have access to the superior premium Japanese rice?

>>15762998
Sorry, rice imports INTO Japan are taxed, lest theyd get flooded with cheap SEA and Chinese rice and their farmers would be out of a job overnight

>>15762982
What a moron, so you have zero experience with what you're talking about but you KNOW you're right.

Fuck off if you're just gonna LARP and pretend it's factual.

>>15763016
I'm starting to feel like you're somehow being paid by BIG RICE to try and convert us all with very aggressive Japanese techniques to their top dollar rice

>>15763016
I dont have to have eaten a piece of shit to know its going to taste like shit. Just like i dont need to eat a particular brand of rice to know its gonna taste like rice

I'd suggest standard lids myself. Hinge lids get gross.

>>15763037
did you also instinctually know that USDA prime wasn't a scam before eating it?

How the fuck are you gonna judge someone for liking something you've NEVER tried and are simply assuming tastes the same as cheap stuff?

>>15763100
>>15763100

>>15762543
Did the Korean manufacturers have such technology?

>>15759436
That's the point of Claypot Rice dishes. They want their rice to be crunchy and slightly burnt. Like with roasted dangos.

>>15759426
>they're a select minority.
Yes, the autists. They exist. Are you ESL or some shit?