/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>15702569
stop worrying about shit you shouldn't worry about

Didn't know bonito is a fish. Thought it was squid.

Learn something new every day

>>15702569
>getting filtered by umami of all things
theres nothing to understand. it's one of the 5 basic tastes. ever wonder why mushrooms taste "meaty" to you? it's the umami. cook some rice and pour a bit of soy sauce on some. eat it. now mix msg into your soy sauce and repeat. if you can't taste the difference, there's no saving you.

>>15702633
>ever wonder why mushrooms taste "meaty" to you?
No, because they don't. Mushrooms taste like mushrooms. You shouldn't believe things people say on the internet and then repeat them just to sound smart.

>>15702654
>You shouldn't believe things people say on the internet and then repeat them just to sound smart.
are you projecting sweatie? you got filtered by umami, go back tastelet.

>>15702673
How am I projecting when I'm stating I don't get something people on the internet are saying just to sound smart?
Also, where should I go back?

>>15702679
>I don't understand something so none of you do either.
the fast food threads are waiting for you babby.

>>15702696
Do tomatoes, green peas and sardines taste "meaty" to you?

>>15702707
>do sardines, a meat, taste meaty to you.
you must go back.

>>15702712
>fish taste like meat
ok

>>15702628
This whole time I thought you were pretty bonito, if you know what I mean ;)

>>15702716
a brainlet and a tastelet both. my condolences. I sincerely hope you get better.

>>15702727
So beef, pig, chicken, seafood and fish taste the same.
Ok.

>>15702734
>I simply don't understand umami
you sure don't, anon.

>>15702737
Tomatoes also taste meaty, apparently.

>>15702569
Glutamate is a heckin spicerino tasterino amino acid that makes your food yummy and savory and heckin wholesome 100

>>15702744
>all foods containing differing concentrations of glutamate should taste the same
before you started projecting, did you notice how my initial "meaty" is in quotations? you must describe things to a layman in laymans terms. umami is one of our basic tastes. when describing basic tastes to special needs people, such as yourself, you have to use adjectives that approximate the experience. please describe to me what salt tastes like, as I simply don't understand salt and I'm pretty sure 99% of you don't either.

>>15702777
checked lol

THE FLAVOR
IS CALLED
SAVORY
YOU DUMB FUCKS

>>15702807
please describe it to me, I simply don't understand it.

>>15702569
I have zero understanding of flavors or what tastes like what. I just enjoy the act of cooking and can differentiate between something tasting „good“ or „bad“. I probably have autism or something

>>15702834
That's not autism, that's just being a fuckin' idiot

>>15702569
Umami just means savory/meat flavor/glutamate. I don't know why soys ran with the Japanese term as opposed to their native language term. In German we call it herzhaft (hearty).

>>15702779
>please describe to me what salt tastes like, as I simply don't understand salt and I'm pretty sure 99% of you don't either
Well, there is this substance available pretty much everywhere that is called salt. People have been using it for centuries to preserve meat. Everyone can experience it through seawater. It's also the common denominator between heavily processed food such as potato chips or cured meat.

Now tell me, what is the common denominator between tomatoes and meat? To me tomatoes taste both acid and sweet, it has nothing to do with meat.

WHAT
IS
UMAMI
?

>>15702569
>unami
Just use MSG. It just werkz.

>>15703001
Well, there is these substances available pretty much everywhere that is called glutamates. People have been using them for centuries to make food taste good. Everyone can experience it through MSG. It's also the common denominator between cheap asian takeout and snack food such as potato chips or General Tso's.

>>15702569
If you don't understand umami try eating a ton of MSG until it dulls your tastebuds and then the lack of umami taste in your food will be very evident.

In my experience, most people actually have a harder time understanding bitter than umami. Quite a lot of people I've interacted with just associate it with any flavor they don't like.

>>15702654
>mushrooms taste like mushrooms
So are mushrooms sweet, salty, bitter, or sour to you? Since you clearly don't think they taste umami. I know foreign sounding words confuse your faggot amerimutt brain, but some people eat other things besides hotpockets and mountain dew.

>>15702628
Fucking idiot

>>15703130
>what is the common denominator between tomatoes and meat? To me tomatoes taste both acid and sweet, it has nothing to do with meat.

>>15703296
Cardboard is neither sweet, salty, bitter or sour.
Is cardboard umami?

>>15703451
>Cardboard
not food

>>15703001
>salt tastes like salt
Describe the taste of salt without saying it tastes like salt. You can't and you've realized this. Umami is the same. One of five base tastes. Making poorly worded fallacies doesn't change this.

>>15702569
pretty sure op is just baiting you niggers, there's no way he's serious

>>15702718
Joto

>>15703001
the common denominator is glutamate. cooking tomatoes down into tomato sauce can help tastelets like you be less confused about your body and the intimidating culinary world. also cringe.

>>15702569
literally just eat some msg

>>15702628
why don't you guys look up ingredients with unfamiliar names? next thing you know you could get memed into putting loads of shirako into your food

>>15702654
ok anon listen the "meaty" thing is called a "description," he doesn't mean mushrooms taste exactly like meat but that they possess a quality meat also possesses. Eat a milk chocolate bar then have a butterscotch lolipop. They both taste "sweet" and normal people don't freak out at a sentence like "this chocolate bar and this lolipop both taste sweet gee wiz what is behind this phenomenon"

>>15702707
yeah actually no wonder I like fresh peas so much, kinda makes sense now

>>15702807
um savory is an herb dumbass

>>15702834
na you just haven't tapped into your true power level yet ya fucking plebian

>>15702588
This is really solid food and cooking advice. No irony.

>>15705017
Umm, no. Calm down, meaty.

>>15703451
jokes on you faggot cardboard tastes sweet to me because I can break down β(14) linked D-glucose bonds

>>15705072
it's this type of thinking that kept my grandmother's cooking skills in the 1930's

>>15702569
it's pretty much the hipster way of saying savory as I understand it. hipsters and weeaboos alike love foreign sounding words

>>15702569
For a crash course on umami sprinkle some parmesean and italian seasoning on fresh tomato slices and cook at 400 for 10-15 minutes

>>15702654
based.
umami and earthy aren't the same thing. mushrooms do not taste meaty.

>>15702569
It's easy, you know, the taste of steaks and ice cream and coffee, and citrus, and tomatoes ? Umami. See, it was easy.

>>15702633
>cook some rice and pour a bit of soy sauce on some. eat it. now mix msg into your soy sauce and repeat. if you can't taste the difference, there's no saving you.
That's not a very good example. Soy sauce already contains a lot of natural glutamate. You could try something like vinegar on rice, then mix msg into vinegar and try that.

>>15702569
Just think of it as another word for savory.

>>15705634
samefag

>>15705634
Then explain the Beefsteak Mushroom.

>>15705517
>>15705675
he doesn't know what savory is, he simply doesn't understand it.

>>15702569
try raw msg and you'll recognize the taste

>>15702569
A nice nipponese lady explains it for some nerds who wanna fuck her here you go :
https://youtu.be/dpezCEW9W84

>>15705517
Savory has a few definitions which is why umami is a slightly better descriptor. Like what if someone tasted your chicken enchiladas and said, "it's good but you should make it more savory next time." You really wouldn't know what exactly they meant. Could mean either:
1)less sweet
2)saltier
3)spicier
4)more umami-er

Besides, umami opens a specific channel on taste buds built for the purpose of detecting proteins

>>15703451
cardboard is bitter

It’s just savoury food is it not

>>15705953
I get what you mean, sometimes you’ll have a bite of a burger and it’s just a ‘meaty’ flavour hard to describe outside of lowering yourself to saying umami in public

>>15703001
>To me tomatoes taste both acid and sweet, it has nothing to do with meat.
Pineapple and cherry are also acid and sweet, but tomatoes are not quite like pineapple and cherry. You would not use a tomato where you would use a cherry. So what's the difference?

>reading through this thread
>it's one pedantic, stubborn retard declaring mushrooms don't taste like steak and tomatoes taste "acidic and sweet" versus a few anons who have made clear points about why "umami" is a specific and real flavor
>the pedantic and stubborn retard just keeps going, avoiding everyone's points
This thread is amusing but a little infuriating. It's like watching an unshakable flat-earther talk about how the horizon looks flat when he looks outside when he can't answer basic questions about orbits or gravity.

>>15702569
Just put this in your food.

>>15706074
effectively yes
but we call it umami because a japanese person was the first to isolate a compound that directly stimulates that taste receptor

>>15706841
Does anyone know where to get inosinate and guanylate separately?

You niggers, it literally means "tastes good" "good mouthfeel".

In other words it doesn't taste bland.
Mushroom has this undescribable good taste or feel to the mouth, so do a lot of other foods.

>>15702569
I swear these niggers need to shut the fuck up about
>Muh umami
It's just called savory. You don't need to loan a word from a foreign language we already have a word for you stupid fucks. Fuck you Joshua Weissman.