/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>15659599
Try one of these.

>>15659599
Most of the ones I know that have been doing it for years actually don't have souls.

>>15659599
Vegan food is great.

>French fries
>Fried yuca
>Fried sweet potato
>Fried bread
>Fried eggplant
>Fried zucchini
>Fried corn fritters

>>15659647
I get all my souls from McChickens

Easy to make vegan food with soul and good flavor... meat meals can be equally disappointing

>>15659656
>fried carbs
>fried carbs x2
>fried carbs x3
>fried carbs x4
>fried carbs x5
>fried carbs x6
>fried carbs x7
Damn, meat-eaters BTFO, vegans clearly know how to eat healthy.

>>15659726
Oreos are vegan too kek they don't show you the majority of vegans for the fat whales they are

>>15659726
>eggplant & zucc
>carbs
Holy dumb.

>>15659762
They have carbs.

>>15659859
why are carbs bad?

>>15659762
1 cup (82g) of eggplant contains 0.1g fat, 0.8g protein, and 2.9g sugar
1 cup (113g) zucchini contains 0.4g fat, 1.4g protein, and 2.8g sugar
So yes: carbs.

>>15659882
They aren't unless it's 90% of what you consume

>>15659882
This: >>15659896
The problem with vegan diets is they're disproportionately high carb.

Vegans are just part of a leftist coastal elite movement to weaken the meat industry and hurt rural workers, it's pure evil at its core

>>15659599
A better quesrion wpuld be how does anyone with a soul kill and exploit living creatures for "muh taste."

>>15659882
They aren't.

>>15660130
>living creatures
Plants are living creatures.

>>15660130
There are many more reasons to eat animal products than taste

>>15659656
Those are great side dishes with meat.
They also all taste better fried in tallow.

Vegans talk about how great their food is. They act like meat eaters can't eat plants like its forbidden like in their religion.

I feel bad for vegans. I grew up with one. Very abusive human being who lacked any sort of empathy whatsoever. I strongly believe they became vegan to try to compensate for said lack of empathy instead of trying to just be kind to other people. They literally think the best way to be kind is to just not eat something.

Also most vegans cheat on their diet. It drives them insane with guilt whenever they nourish themselves with foods their bodies are craving, and they are constantly tempted and have to look at tons of animal torture porn to try to continue on with their shitty deficient diet. They have no idea that they are literally making animal abuse profitable, and people are paying people to abuse animals for stupid vegans who need fresh animal torture porn.

>>15660175
what

>>15660130
It's called nature, something trannies and leftists will never understand.

>>15659599
>What to do

Nothing. They don't have souls.

Only conscious creatures have souls. We eat conscious creatures and consume their souls, thus replenishing our own.
Vegans only eat soulless plants, thus are completely empty inside.
You can see it in their eyes, their souls are either starving or completely gone.

They're basically gingers.

>>15660193
What are you confused about?

>>15660175
>I strongly believe they became vegan to try to compensate for said lack of empathy instead of trying to just be kind to other people.
Possibly very true based on my experience with them.

>>15660130
m-muh protein vitamins its my birth right its okay they cant think psychologys says that also I have 6 abbreviations instead of a personality. I love beeing a boomer and in the future ill just claim I didnt know better :)

>>15660216
explain everything again because you posted it wrong

>>15660208
I agree

>>15660528
How is it wrong?

>>15660196
>'It's called nature's
>Picks up another plastic-wrapped pack of beef raised and processed in hellish conditions that he never personally interacts with and eats it in front of a computer

>>15660554
Not him, but I get all my meat from a local farm that pasture-raises all their animals with regenerative farming techniques in rotating open fields, no grain feed, and no feed lots or other cramped environments except for sleeping in the barn at night.

>>15660572
Better in my view along with responsible hunting, but you are the exception, not the rule.

>>15660554
The 1/4 cow I've been working on since August is all wrapped in paper and was someone's personal steer. He was raised outdoors on pasture, and considering he was slaughtered in August when pasture is plentiful probably had minimal grain. He was also slaughtered in a small facility, not a giant overcrowded overworked USDA facility. I am going to pick from a different guy next time who does regenerative grass finished farming. This one was just too good of a deal to pass up. I don't eat retail supermarket beef. It's a ripoff.

>>15659599
>>15660739

Claims the future is vegan, but then compares vegetarians to pedophiles.

>>15659882
Why is raising insulin for no reason good?

>>15661871
>Eats veggies fruits and whole grains
>Low GI/GL
>Insulin stays at good levels
>Do cardio
>Body stays healthy and I'm at a lower risk for diabetes than any average amerifat or yoyo keto guy

>>15659656
I know you're trying to be funny, but you are being incredibly unhelpful right now.

Being vegan requires a massive lifestyle change that takes into consideration not only what we eat, but how, and where does it come from.

If we all keep going through this path of rampant consumerism and gluttony, the planet won't be able to take it much longer, and then we'll have to bear the brunt of the consequences of catastrophic climate change, loss of habitat for wild life and the end of many species.

We must all work together to ensure that the planet can not only survive, but also thrive. And for that, we have to change our relationship with food.

The use of spices can always bring some more life to our dishes, and we'll be sure that we're eating something that is not only delicious, but more importantly, cruelty-free.

Grow. the. fuck. up.

>>15661923
First off, the planet is doomed no matter what we do, so is humanity.

Second, veganism will never stop that trajectory. There are plenty of vegans, in fact many of them, which are wasteful and hyper consumers. Just look at all the instagram vegan whores who blow all their money on unnecessary bullshit and fly around everywhere and eat nothing but processed and imported foods.

I completely agree that we need to reconnect with our food. But wouldn't the pursuit of food sovereignty and supermarket independence be a better way to go about that?
It's very difficult to be a glutton when you are living off of what you grow/raise.

Also wtf are you on with the cruelty free bullshit. It's pretty cruel to kill 50 billion bees per year for almonds, to wipe out certain species of animals for palm, to overuse water for tons of fruit, to spray pesticides everywhere, to mine for artificial fertilizers, to use monkeys for coconuts, to burn womens fingers off for cashews... is it cruel to employ tens of thousands of domesticated ducks for rice to ensure that chemical pesticides don't ruin the water?

I don't know. Cruelty free to me is just a fucking label cooperation's will put on their product to get your dollar.

>>15661961
70% of crops are grown to feed animals. If we stop eating so much meat all that land could become natural habitat. So all the associated crop harvesting selective stuff you said there would also be severely reduced. Stop coming up with excuses

>>15661961
Please don't even consider going vegan because of the post you've answered to.

I was trying to be a parody vegan by reciting their talking points. I expected hostility towards it, not serious consideration.

Being vegan is retarded. Most of their food is grown with blood and bone meal, plus the cultivation of monocrops to feed their demand for meme food is causing more harm to the environment than anything else. That and the environmental impact of transporting meme ingredients from around the world.

I repeat: being vegan is retarded, stupid and should be looked as a sign of a personality disorder.

>>15662015
>blood and bone meal
There are many plant based fertilisers it's really up to the farmer
>motocross
You mean gigantic soybean farms for cattle feed? I don't think you know much on the subject
>transporting meme ingredients
Exact same goes for meat

I repeat: being a vegan hater is retarded, stupid and should be looked as a sign of a personality disorder.

>>15659599
My mom called me last night to ask for help coming up with something to serve at an upcoming family potluck. I have a huge, very close-knit family and gatherings can easily have 50+ people. Recently, one cousin went vegan and is now demanding absolutely everything be vegan-friendly. So, no cheese or dairy or meat ingredients in any dishes besides whatever my uncles will be grilling for 50 people. Even I was hard-pressed to come up with a dish that would please 50 people, could serve as a main or a side and is completely vegan that a 60 year old woman could make and present to a family of working class normies. I personally like plenty of vegan dishes, but this is retarded. If you're vegan, bring your own dish to the potluck. There will inevitably be vegetables, salad, etc there too. The idea that one person gets to dictate what can be served to the detriment of 49 other people is idiotic. My aunt has been a vegetarian all my life and never once has asked anyone do anything like this.

In the end I told my mom aloo gobi would be something tasty, pretty easy, filling, inexpensive, could act as a main or a side and the only really new spice she'd absolutely need to get is garam masala. I also sent her my recipe for butternut squash soup, but this is why people hate vegans. I dont care that you dont eat animal products. Everyone else does and its ridiculous that you expect everyone around you to bend over for you. Pack a fucking cucumber sandwich if you're that fussed that you might accidentally die of cheese touch.

>>15662039
>There are many plant based fertilisers it's really up to the farmer
No, there aren't.

Organic farming gets most of its fertiliser from bone and blood meal, plus waste compost, which takes a lot longer to produce. It's either that or chemical ones, which aren't classified as organic.

You simply know shit about farming.

>You mean gigantic soybean farms for cattle feed?
Don't be so disrespectful towards Asians.

>Exact same goes for meat
The meat I eat comes from my very own state.

Your goji berries come from Asia.

>>15661986
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nw4c5RhRYMY&ab_channel=GlobalNews

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnAW-GekjaI&t=2s&ab_channel=TheJornada

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWChH9MHkHg&ab_channel=JustinRhodes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkalgRnA-8I&ab_channel=JustinRhodes

Just because large scale industrial farms do it doesn't mean small scale permaculture farms have to do it too.

>>15662039
Soybeans for cattle feed??? What the fuck are you smoking. The grain of choice for cattle is corn. My nextdoor neighbor raises beef cows and feeds them corn, alfalfa, pasture, and hay. I know this because he uses our property to grow his cows crops. But tell me again how far its transported compared to your quinoa, goji berry, avocado smoothie you had this morning with your multivitamin.

Soy is mostly fed to livestock in the form of soybean meal, a byproduct of soy oil production.

Clearly you don't know much on the subject

Also "vegan" fertilizer is fucking petroleum and mined materials. Like phosphorous. It's destroying the environment. Thanks buddy.

Food sovereignty>veganism.

>>15662202
There are and I know more shit about farming than you. Refer to this dummy

https://www.dummies.com/home-garden/gardening/organic-gardening/plant-based-fertilizers-for-organic-gardens/

And the soybeans for feed are most likely shipped to feed the flesh that you eat

>>15662210
Small scale permaculture farms are a fucking meme buddy. What percentage of meat comes from them do you think? And soybeans is included in a lot of animal feed but the point i was making is that meat is very inefficient and is the reason so much land is deforestation. And also refer to this post for plant fertiliser:
>>15662214

>>15662178
tl;dr

>>15659656
American 'diet'

>>15659599
Ironic considering how carnies don't even like the taste of meat. Who has the real shit food again?

>>15662229
All of my meat comes from small farms. All of my poultry and eggs comes from my farm. And your stupid website isn't proof that you garden. All the fertilizer for my garden came from my property in the form of duck shit/eggs, food scraps, lawn clippings, dead leaves, whatever I can find. And it turns out just like people the soil and crops thrive on an omnivorous diet.
You are trying to say that animals existing is inefficient. You are absolutely ridiculous. What is inefficient is our convenience obsessed hyperconsuming globalized industrialized food wasting society. I was just talking about how fucked up it is the way our food system is regulated to purposefully suppress small farmers. You fucking moron. You have no idea how fucked up shit is. Did you know there are only 800 usda processing facilities in this country? Compare that to fucking 13,000 mcdonalds. It's actually safer and better to go to a non usda inspected facility because they process less animals. But I wouldn't get poultry from anywhere but what I slaughter and process anyways. Those fuckers have to do a gorillion birds per day.

Anyways, fuck you, fuck veganism. Grow your own food. You will never defeat the duck army/

>>15662249
Butthurt vegan detected.
I feel bad for you. Is this what you have to tell yourself when you smell bbq or walk past the meat section at the supermarket. How often do you have to look at animal torture porn to desperately try to convince yourself that you don't want the thing your body is screaming for.

Don't like the taste of meat, but you fuckers are the only ones who buy all the fake animal products.

>>15662263
OK man. I'm just saying that the fertiliser can be plant based. And farm animals are more inefficient than straight from the crop. I can't stop you from going small scale though

>>15662233
tl;dr: my obnoxious cousin is forcing everyone in my family to only prepare vegan food for a potluck of 50 people, most of whom are boomers.

>>15662306
oh, that sucks. thanks for actually summing it up, I was just shitposting.

>>15662292
Plant based fertilizer without the aid of unsustainable artificial fertilizer or animal fertilizers is not going to give you a good crop yeild. And when growing my own food I need as much as I can get.

My animals are a blessing to my garden. And in fact they encourage me to plant more trees. Shade and outdoor protection is crucial for the welfare of my animals.

This is not a planet of just humans and plants. It evolved based on millions of complex symbiotic relationships with plants, animals, fungi, and bacteria. In order to coax out the most fertility we MUST use all these kingdoms working in harmony. There is no way around it. We do not live on a vegan planet. Get over it.

Living in the city being a blind consumer just means you are part of the problem. You are just as bad as your meat eating counterpart. Monocrops and factory farmed livestock are both shit. Both equal shit. If you want to do the least harm, and shit, even do some good, you got to get your hands dirty, shitty, and bloody.

>>15662306
>>15662178
Why is your family allowing your cousin to talk down to everybody like this?

>>15659599
Learn to actually cook faggot

>>15662306
Don't pander to them. Fuck that is ridiculous. That would be like a ketofag banning all carbs. Tell them that for me. Tell them also to enjoy their veganic isolation while they crave animal products and have to punish themselves watching animal torture porn constantly to punish their sinful body for wanting to eat animals.

You make her a vegan dish, a vegan dessert, and a salad/veggie tray. Then bring some nice steaks for your boomer family.

>>15662329
Im gonna be vegan man it gives more room for natural habitat. You do what you want. And BTW don't plant non native trees if you're gonna, much better if they're from the area

>>15662329
>not only do I do no evil but I'm actually a positive force
oh really

>>15662346
My uncles will be cooking burgers and hotdogs either way. She just wants everything on the potluck table to be vegan. Its infuriating, but the boomers are trying to be nice and accommodating. If I was going I would make something non vegan just out of spite, but I live in another country. It's the anniversary of my grandmother's death, so its particularly rude and deserved of rudeness in turn, but my family is far too nice.

>>15659726
>carbs are unhealthy
Another brainlet who knows nothing of nutrition.

>>15662368
I'm plant a variety of trees. Whatever is appropriate for the environment, high value, hardy, and yields well. Also veganism doesn't necessarily help natural habitat. It is very common for livestock to be employed to help restore habitat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2kL3p5AyUk&ab_channel=JacobLangeslag

>>15662464
It doesn't surprise me. All the vegans I know are monsters. I have a vegan in my family and I grew up with them. They were one of the most abusive people I knew. I'm pretty sure the veganism is just them trying to compensate for their lack of legitimate empathy and use it as a crutch to make them feel better about themselves without actually doing anything.