/ck/ - Food & Cooking

If you're legitimately trying to avoid soy then just use Maggi instead
Tastes similar and looks the same too

avoiding soy sauce out of fear of being a soy boy is retarded

>>15614537
No it's not.
OP is trying to say weebs and asians are soyboys and they are correct.

>>15614388
If you want to avoid soy for autistic reasons but still want the savory flavor enhancement of soy sauce, just use MSG
The purpose of both is to add glutamic acid to your food for an enhanced savory/umami flavor, but MSG is a sodium salt derived from the glutamic acid in plants like corn and sugarcane

>>15614388
I don't crave regular soy sauce.
Sweet soy sauce tho is really great for many dishes.

Soy sauce is based, and anyone who says otherwise is a complete faggot. Case closed.

>>15614388
Soy sauce is fine. I use it and my T levels are still good.

>>15614388
Natural soy products from eastern market are fine and good. Soy sauce and tofu are perfectly fine and natural. They taste well and have been developed by thousads of years of traditional making.
The american "soy" products like soy milk (the fuck?) and vegan "meat" are processed garbage that you shouldn't touch. This makes you a soyboy.

>>15614388
>soyboy
If you believe in that brah science unironically then >>>/x/
You're on the wrong board.

>>15614964
>soy milk (the fuck?) and vegan "meat"
That is also produced in asia. Though it's debatable whether the murikans versions are any better or worse.

>>15614974
I would rather fear the products that pretend to be a natural product that they aren't.
Calling your product with a misleading name is generally a big red blinking waring symbol.
>Margarine as "plant butter"
>Soy drink as "milk"
>Soy "something" as "meat"
Tofu doesn't pretend to be anything else than tofu, this is why I would see it as safe food.

>>15614974
e.g.
>https://coldstorage.com.sg/chocolate-soy-milky-5026779
>https://www.amazon.sg/Textured-Vegetable-Protein-Taiwanese-Vegan/dp/B07H9KTRNX

>>15614983
>>Soy drink as "milk"
>>Soy "something" as "meat"
That how they call it in asia too. See above. Search it yourself.

>>15614964
tofu is basically cheese made from soy milk. i don't think there's a good reason to be okay with one but not the other. soy milk could technically be less processed if you're just blending soybeans and straining it. anyway, it doesn't seem like soy products are really an issue in a normal diet. i think the soyboy meme is from people who drink soylent instead of eating a normal meal and try to replace meat with soy.

>>15614818
>but MSG is a sodium salt derived from the glutamic acid in plants like corn and sugarcane
Any pure MSG that you can buy is produced by bacteria. Nobody is making it from corn or sugarcane because that isn't profitable. And even before they found a way to get bacteria to produce the stuff they used wheat I think. They're probably using the sugars from sugarcane or corn to feed the bacteria though.

>>15614388
Get traditionally fermented soy sauce. Most sour sauces use alcohol as a cheaper and faster way to make soy. Unfermented soy is unfit for human consumption

>>15615050
In the end it's still the same molecule and your body digests it the same as sodium and glutamic acid in natural foods, there's no health downsides to how it's processed

>>15614388
Use kikkoman for rice and dipping sushi. Use pearl river bridge for minced meat and vegetable. I like to use the latter as a replacement for worchestire sauce.

>>15615066
What about Yamasa?

>>15614388
if the soy is fermented (in products like soy sauce), you're good to go. if it isn't fermented (in products like soy milk), you'll turn into a soyboy.

Fermented soy products are fine

>>15615066
>worchestire

>>15614388
soysauce is fermented. It won't you into soyboy

>>15614388
Only if it's been made with the right soy.
Fuck Monsanto soy
Fuck Monsanto in general
Fuck GMOs which were designed to be sterile in order to monopolise on a PLANT.

>>15615364
>>15615248
Do you guys believe fermentation removes phytoestrogens?

>>15615423
phyto-what?

>>15614388
It's pretty common for conservatives to worry about their low testosterone levels, anon. Unfortunately, Republicans are always going to be low-T, people with conservative political beliefs have a gene marker that gives them a strong fear response. Short of artificial supplements, low-T is just a thing you're going to have to learn to live with.

its ok to eat soy products if they're made from activated soy. in fact, after activation, you might even notice a boost in T-levels and start lusting after cunny.

>>15614537
It's, ironically, the soyboy thing to do
Being so pathetic that you choose not to enjoy things because of memes

>>15615396
>Fuck Monsanto soy
>Fuck Monsanto in general
>Fuck GMOs
That's cumming from the same source that's telling you that toothpaste will make you gay, soya beans will turn you into a womanlet, and MSG is poison china chemicals. None of which is true.

>>15614388
Don't do this OP, I tried to ignore the soyboy meme and used soy in my asian food like I've always done

Now everyone at work makes fun of me. They've stopped using my real name and just call me soyboy now. They also leave womens underpants on my desk

>>15615443
>people with conservative political beliefs have a gene marker
Leftists really are the modern day equivalent of Nazi scientists.

>>15615573
i've never heard about any of those myths you're talking about, however, Monsanto IS modifying food crops to make them both sterile and immune to Glyphosate (their own all-wonder pesticide and herbicide). this is a worldwide scandal, not one of your stupid toothpaste myths.

>>15615669
There's that fear response I was talking about. Literally every time a conservative accuses a liberal of something, it's because they're guilty of it themselves. In this case, anon is afraid of being outed as a racist in real life.

>>15614388
>letting dumb 4chan memes control your food intake

please don't, just eat the fucking food

>>15615987
>Your political views are a result of your inferior genetics.
>You are a secret racist if you challenge this opinion by comparing it to historical events where a leftist government used presuppositions of genetic inferiority to justify subjugation, incarceration, persecution and alleged genocide
Ok, bud.

>>15616051
Conservatives are in bed with the white nationalists. Again with the fear response and accusing liberals of shit you're guilty of. Keep proving the science right, anon.

>>15614388
i like dipping steak in it.

>>15614388
Only insecure children call people soyboys and only insecure children care about the insults of insecure children.

>>15616585
finally a woke anon

>letting the fucktards on this site control your life
really

do not buy VH soy sauce it tastes like garbage

>>15614950
Anyone who talks about their T levels online needs to grow some balls.

>>15614967
Spotted the soyboy

>>15614388
Someone tell these japs about bottle caps

>>15614388
Soy isn't filtered?

>>15617256
soyboys
reddit

>>15617256
Not on /ck/ because it is actually relevant to the board.

>>15614388
Idk m8 I've never seen Asian men grow boobs yet from soy so..

this is more coherent than i expected a soy thread to be
good job /ck/

>>15614388
one sip will purge every ounce of testosterone out of your body and leave you a hairless shivering little twink

>>15618481
Lots of coping soyboys in this thread.

>Is soy sauce ok? Like with rice and stuff. I won't be called a soyboy if I use it? What about tofu? I like to have a little bits of tofu in my miso soup. Ah, but miso is made from soybeans too! It's hard being a conservative.

HOW ARE YOU ALL TYPING ONIONS?!?

>>15620101
No real man would eat tofu and miso soup

Wasn't it weird how fast the mods filtered soy and all its memes so quickly? That's weird, right?

>>15614388
You are completely obsessed and mentally ill

>>15614983
I'm surprised they can even get away with it. you have "frozen dairy dessert" and "process cheese product" for stuff that actually contains milk but doesn't meet strict requirements, but you can still call bean water with 0% dairy "milk." I guess it just shows how much power big soy has.

>>15615573
All of those things are true, you nasty lying kike.

>>15615987
Your hypocrisy is amazing. Are you blindingly stupid or just have no sense of shame, like most leftists?

>>15616112
Are you implying black nationalism is evil?

>>15615573
>>15616585
>>15616846
Post body.

>>15620204
>Racism outside of /b/
>Bruh science
Like pottery >>>/trash/

>>15615896
>Monsanto IS modifying food crops to make them both sterile and immune to Glyphosate
Yes, that makes plants grow well and most farmer keep buying their cause it just werkz. You hate capitalism or something?
>>>/sci/ >>>/biz/

>>15618481
>more coherent than i expected
It's still full of retards.

>>15620224
Yes. Now get >>>/pol/

本当にエストロゲンで女性化するならハゲ防止になるわ

>>15620157
it's weird when you consider it in the context of how lazy they are at their jobs, yes.
this shitty thread, including multiple other straight up shitposting bait threads have been up for hours, close to a day actually
they never filtered any of the other obnoxious meme words we've gotten since then like tranny and incel
so yes, it's not weird that they filtered a retarded shitposting trend. it's only weird when you consider how shit they are at their jobs usually

>>15620270
>/pol/ /pol/ /pol/!
Is the /pol/ boogeyman in the room with you now, anon? Where did he trigger you?

>>15620258
>Government supported monopolies with programmed obsolescence are capitalism

>>15620909
>>15620270
>>15620224
>>15616112
>>15616051
>>15615987
>>15615669
>>15615443
oh my god shut the fuck up you subhumans
you ruin every online space you go to. just kill yourselves

>>15614388
Hey guys I have a serious question

What the hell happened to Almond oil?

Story time: I bought a big Costco bottle a year ago before covid-19. A little bit goes a long way for everyday egg and bacon frying on cast iron, but I recently found that it really shines in baked goods like waffles and cookies.

Now I'm out of almond oil and not a single store in my community has any.

>>15620982
I had a small bottle a long time ago, spectrum brand. It just went stale really easily and we used it for skin moisturizing. It didn't real

>>15614388
Soy sauce is fermented, all the toxins are destroyed.

>>15620920
Cry more that reality triggered you, you pathetic weak excuse for a man.
How fat are you? Can you even run a mile? Jog? Could you do a pullup to save your worthless life?

>>15615443
>gene marker that gives them a strong fear response
It's called the amygdala, fear and threat assessment is natural and healthy.

>>15621185
Sauce. Homebrew here. That is not how that works.

>>15621187
i said kill yourself

>>15621189
This, it is why we carry guns and do preventative maintenence on autos, furnaces, water heaters, etc; because we realize things can go wrong and and act proactively.

You are literally consuming soy.

>>15621196
Are you obese or just skinnyfat? You can direct that anger at me, bit we both know the real source; You. And your pathetic degenerate lifestyle.
Keep chasing a dopamine high and ruining yourself. Thankfully, you will never reproduce.

>>15621206
kys
y
s

>>15621192
>That is not how that works.
You're shit at it then because that's exactly how that works. The fermentation process gets rid of toxins and anti-nutrients, Asians historically understood this which is why they only consumed fermented soy products. Another example is the Greenland shark. The meat is toxic unless it is fermented for months.

>>15621220
You hate yourself, but self-preservation, pleasure seeking and and lack of personal analysis means that whenever you feel threatened you have to find someone else to blame, like a woman or child.

>>15621235
>>>/kys/

>>15621245
>Tripling down on lack of intellect and originality.
Bold, but ill advised.
Just post your gyno, baybee.

>>15614388
The estrogen-like substances are mostly destroyed during fermentation. Same for Natto, Miso, Tempeh etc but not Tofu or Edamame. I would be more worried about beer.

>>15621225
Sauce.
Phyoestrogens are not traditional toxins and do not respond the same to microbial activity and oxidation.

>>15621248
kys

>>15621249
>Fermentation destroys estrogen analogues
>But not in beer.

>>15621255
Has a woman ever loved you?

>>15621260
>pic
Look at the ingredients of any random food you get off the shelf. There's a very high chance one of the first few ingredients is soy.

>>15620909
retard

>>15621263
your mum loves him every sunday when im busy fucking your dad. now do as he says and kys

>>15621324
>>15621328
Imagine typing weak garbage like this and congratulating yourself.
Do you fellatiate yourself after this with delusions of "winning"?
You are a joke.

>>15621304
I always look at the ingredient list and country of origin of any food product I buy. Is that not normal?

>>15621337
imagine thinking your smart after typing a whole paragraph because someone called you retard
>winning
kys

Soy sauce is based and with the cartoonish amount of sodium it contains, you'll die of hypertension years before you even begin to grow tits.

>>15621355
>He says, typing more than one paragraph if he knew English.

>>15621357
Sodium is not bad, nor is dietary cholesterol. Stop spreading this myth.

>>15621363
retard

>>15621370
How many times are you going to embarrass yourself, anon?
You are a dumb fat loser. We can all see it, clear as day.

>>15621337
damn youre mad. cope harder

>>15621378
retard

>>15621263
k y s

>>15614388
I use it only for frying and meat marination, raw flavor is too salty.

>>15621381
>>15621385
>>15621388
You know there is a poster counter, you S E E T H I N G overweight virgin?

>>15621407
you are replying to anons already in the thread. of course the poster count doesnt go up. fuck you are retarded, and you should kill yourself

>>15621412
I like you, anon. You have no brains, but ya got balls.

>>15621407
>hur! poster counter!
as if that means anything to anyone except you. commit suicide

>>15621443
You desperately seem like you need this, so; You win.
Maybe start respecting yourself and others will too though. Okay, sport?

>>15621452

>>15620865
The fuck is a hageboshi you chink

>>15621656
ハゲ = bald
防止 = prevention

>>15614388
You're a soyboy if you like the taste. Soypilled af.

>>15621225
>Asians historically understood this which is why they only consumed fermented soy products
The only fermented tofu found in Asia is "smelly tofu" which is literally rotten tofu which was invented by accident. All other types of tofu we eat is just regular unfermented tofu. I haven't grown wamen teats yet because I'm not as fat as an amurikan.

>>15620919
>programmed obsolescence are capitalism
That's your iPhone which most dumb amurikans buy. >>>/g/

>>15614537
this

OP is a soy boy

>>15621674
You're the one soyplying to a soyboy. Who's soypilled now?

Soy sauce enthusiast is here

Q. Do you have gluten free soy sauce?

A. Gluten free soy sauce. There is soy sauce that does not use wheat.
Please search for soy sauce that does not use wheat with tamari soy sauce

Tamari soy sauce that does not use wheat by the traditional manufacturing method.
(Only some Tamari soy sauce. Please note that not all Tamari soy sauce is gluten-free.)

The taste is delicious because it is traditional soy sauce. But the taste is strong
Taste preferences are divided

Tamari Shoyu (Tamari)
This soy sauce is mainly brewed in the Chubu region. It is characterized by thickness, dense umami, and a unique fragrance. It has long been called “sashimi tamari”, as it is commonly used at table with sushi and sashimi. When heated, it reveals a pleasing red tint, and it is also used in grilling, boiling in soy sauce, and the processing of products such as senbei rice crackers.


Recently, soy sauce that does not use wheat has increased
It is soy sauce that does not use wheat, soybeans or rice

Quinoa soy sauce
Echinochloa esculenta soy sauce
Foxtail millet soy sauce
Proso millet soy sauce
Broad bean soy sauce
There are many other types, so it is better to check

I have not used these soy sauces and do not evaluate them, but the taste seems to be slightly lower than that of real soy sauce.

you could eat no soy and I'd still call you a soyboy if you act like one

>>15621407
lurk more newfag

>>15621858
Soyfag, then tell me which one of the various brands is the best one and why.
>Yamasa
>Kikkoman
>???

>>15621858
basado

>>15621260
this is a trash diagram because it equates animal estrogens to phytoestrogens.

which is kind of like equating bioidentical testosterone with random bullshit from some African kola plant

dairy is the most hormone disrupting thing anyone can consume, especially cream and butter.
eggs score high because of cholesterol, which isn't actually a hormone

>>15614388
This has to be bait

> consume the soy
> don’t let the soy consume you

>>15621792
>>15621794
Turd worlders literally cannot help themselves

>>15622687
Sauce.
>high
Cholesterol is the base for testosterone

>>15614388
Kikkoman is trash tier soy sauce. Get some China Lily if you can find it.

>>15621385
>>15621388
Dude you got fucking REKT

>>15615032
The Soyboy meme comes from will wheaton and others like him

>>15614388
This is much better

>>15624108
not really a chemist but i'm like 99.8% sure you are retarded. The molecules are significantly different

I love soy sauce. The taste is so good. If it didn't have such a high sodium level, I'd eat it all the time.

>>15614388
Fun fact I've been carrying around since elementary school: soy sauce was invented and popularized because people didn't have enough salt for their rice

>>15614388
None of this will make you liberal, Japan is one of the most conservative countries on the planet and like you said they eat soy all the time.

>>15614388
Avoiding soy is a dumb pursuit anyway. Just don't eat it everyday.

>>15625908
How did they have enough salt for soy sauce?

>>15624522
retard

>polfags mad
must hurt to be just as hated as trannys, but seeing as how they act in this thread they deserve it

>>15626936
forgot to add I'm a gay diaper-wearing furry btw not that it matters

>>15614537
OP is a faggot for letting a mongolian ass eating site tell him what he can and cannot enjoy

>>15617256
tourist begone

Asian steak sauces have soy sauce in them.
This one is pretty good.

>>15626959
>>>/mlp/ >>>/lgbt/

>>15624870
That's for BBQ shit. Soy sauces goes with everything like my mcchikken.

>>15621858
>Gluten free
Gay, seeth and dilated.

>>15614388
Who did this to you, anon?

>>15626959
and still youre not even close to being as much of a faggot as the retarded polfag.

>>15624522
damn youre still mad?

>>15627426
Im not mad. Im owning. You think just because Biden won you can shittalk pol? GUESS WHAT; I have been here since 2017 and I have never seen a more smelly newfag like you guys. You desperatly try to be so cool and above it all, but youre just low IQ s o i b o y s. I may have been wrong about the postercounter, but that just proofs youre a discord raid, since the whole thread is shitting on me. I cant believe the audacity of you smelly virgins.

>>15627521
Fuck me 4chan is dead.

You're only a soyboy if you are bald w/ a bushy beard, guzzle soylent and/or soymilk, are insufferably liberal, collect funko pops, practice cuckolding, like RIck & Morty, and use Harry Potter, Marvel, or Star Wars for weak political analogies.

>>15627532
More weak garbage to make yourself feel better.
You really think I dont know your the same seething Incel from before?
>>15621324
>>15621255
You must hate yourself right now.

hello, is this the shitposting political containment thread?

It's incredibly how so many fucking retarded newfags are taking OP seriously, I wouldn't even call it trolling, its just obvious sarcasm. holy shit you guys are pathetic, based OP exposing newfags

/thread

>>15614563
and yet china, top consumer of soy, is crushing the west.