/ck/ - Food & Cooking

because good beer doesn't have to be cold

>>15594325
Then get some red wine you pathetic birch

>>15594335
i've had premium ales in england slightly colder than room temperature and they could've been 10 degrees cooler for optimal taste. they even keep their shitty beers at room temp, i just don't get it

>>15594346
red wine is fucking disgusting you cretin

>>15594325
just put it on ice. in before fagoid Epic Craft Beer guys come out of the woodwork to tell me that it's illegal to dilute your beer by 0.5% to make it cold instantly.

>>15594357
Red wine is beautiful and requires no refrigeration you tastelet

>>15594363
>bitter and not in a good way like beer
>full of tannins that make you sick the next day
it's only useful for sangria, fuck red wine
rosé all day baby
>>15594359
when i was in budapest two winters ago i left my beers on the ledge outside my hotel window because i had no mini fridge, actually worked quite well

>>15594325
they usually put it in the microwave before they drink it anyway so it's pretty pointless to keep it cool in the store.

>>15594377

>>15594325
>4 hours

Ever heard of a freezer?

>>15594377
>>15594381
Samefag + I don't get it

>>15594430
most hotels don't come with freezers
>samefag
no

I DEMAND AN EXPLANATION

>>15594542
ok here's the real answer. europoors literally don't own refrigerators and the stores want to save money. they're used to having everything room temp so it's completely normal to them and would be a waste for the store anyway to keep it cold then send it to get warm on some poverty stricken italian's countertop.

>>15594561
Sad! but true. Was served so much fucking room temperature beer in Poland

Bros my life is garbage I need to numb it. What's the best routine-dosage to be perma numb without fucking up my health too much?

>>15594325
too poor lol

>>15594561
>>15594581
>>15594595
why do i feel like this is true

>>15594561
This is pretty much true, and that's coming from a European. It's always kind of boggled my mind to think about every single household and store in America had at least one refrigerator.

>>15594616
Because you’re a suggestible moron

>>15594325
>Retarded amerimutt generalizing as always
Just because the few stores you've visited have kept it that way doesn't mean all of Europe doesn't have stores with beer on fridges, the supermarket down my house has beer and other types of drinks both in fridges and shelves.
Besides, I bet you're retarded enough to have missed the fridges with the cold beer and you just thought there wasn't any

>>15594561
it's amazing how long this open secret has managed to fly under the radar in america desu. refrigerators are an upper middle class thing in most of europe.

>>15594702
This is still me btw, from what I'm seeing from others on this thread, it's all either the same amerimutt or just various ones pretending to be European.
I live in fucking Albania and every fucking house, market, bar, no matter how small it is, has at least one fridge

yuropoor shill force right on time lul

>>15594702
i've been to a dozen different shops in all of my original post, all the beers were on room temp shelves.
>>15594702
>>15594715
>albanian has refrigerated beer
i'll tattoo this on my ribs if you can prove this

>>15594763
i made the mistake of getting drunk when euros wake up, but since they're seething i guess it's a happy accident

It's recommended to drink American beer ice cold so you can't taste it.
Then Americans go out to the rest of the world and become totally baffled that the world does not drink it ice cold

>>15594782
literally all I have to do is go downstairs when the store opens in a few hours and take a picture of the fridges with the beer, don't make claims you won't hold amerimutt

>>15594862
fuckin bet, i'll get the tattoo as long as you can go 6 months without committing a crime in western yurop.
>>15594854
american beer is ass made from corn and rice, but is easily drinkable when ice cold

>>15594325
Because you're used to shitty american beer that has to be super-cold so you don't taste it.

Most of the beer here in stores in BC isn't in fridges.

I guess you've gone all those places without learning anything because the retards from your shithole country aren't able to learn from anyone else.

>>15594909
>reddit spacing with zero argument
whatever third world country you're from i appreciate your culture, anon. i was just wondering why you don't refrigerate your beers because warm beer is gross.
also get fucked

>>15594909
seethe more Sanjey

A one that is not cold is scarcely a one at all.

>>15595167
what?

>>15595307
Do you have severe mental deficiency? Try to keep up when the adults are talking.

>>15594371
>bitter
>full of tannins
Join the new world friend.

>>15594325
You thought the "Europoor" thing was just a meme?
You can argue quality of life differences, but 80% of the EU (besides a few countries like Germany or Luxembourg or some shit) are literally broke as fuck. There's a reason Brexit succeeded, and it wasn't because of "muh racism" or something like that, but because UK was sick of propping up shitholes like Greece or Romania.

>>15595365
so brexit is the cause of warm beer even though i had warm beer across europe years before?
>>15595361
red wine is gross there's no use pretending online that you like it

>>15594561
this. When I went to Germany I was genuinely surprised at how people essentially live like peasants.
>manually boil water on the stove to make coffee
>showers can barely fit a fully grown adult
>room temperature beverages
>eating fucking cabbage for dinner

european kitchens are usually as big as a bathroom stall in school.

>>15595370
No, you retard. Your reading comprehension is in the toilet. I said Brexit is because every EU country outside of 3 or 4 are dirt poor, and UK is relatively wealthy and was tired of footing the bill for shitholes like Lithuania who have no GDP and only export laborers.

Your beer is warm because you were in a shithole country like I mentioned. You can also try asking for a soft drink with ice and see how they react. Most restaurants will treat you like you asked for them to unsalt your ham.

>>15594937
>whatever third world country you're from

Wow, they're too fucking stupid to locate a piece of land bigger than texas on the continent they live on.

Ameritards really are fucking dumber than rocks.

>>15595390
tl;dr, lithuania is based because i had two housekeepers from there
>you were in a shithole country
i was in some of the best countries in europe and they all had beer on shelves instead of in the fridge. you suck.

>>15594710
>Literally have had refrigerator and chest freezer in every house growing up
>Had mini refrigerator in room in high school
>First house where I just have a refrigerator until I move.
>Even garage refrigerators are common for beer and soft drinks

>>15595392
>reddit spacing
lol didn't read

>>15594325
Cold beer is fuckin nasty unless its cheap shit like natty

>>15594325
Imagine being europoop and not cooling your beer

>>15594715
>45 replies
>23 posters
based schizo

having a fridge is looked down upon by the european leftist crowd. they look at it like east coast liberals look at gun-toting texans.

>>15594587
3 grams of shrooms daily

>>15595400
The "best" countries in Europe are being drained of their wealth by the shittier countries, so it doesn't really matter. Things like having a washer/dryer or central heating/air is still a "luxury" in these places, whereas they're pretyy commonplace in the US. Refrigerated beverages are no exception.

I got some of this stuff cold at a grocery store just like in the USA

>>15594325
Because e u r o p e
Is p o o r
They can't afford refrigeration

>>15595438
i spent a week in angelholm sweden and the homeowner had not only a fridge, but a freezer which had some frozen lemon custard
i was shocked

>>15594561
Very few have refrigerators in Europe due to them being prohibitively expensive here. It's usually like this everywhere on the old continent, except for the major cities. Hotels usually have them.

>>15595523
so it's custom for most euros to drink beer that's fucking 28 degrees celcius?

Americans are cucks who get arrested for drinking in public.
Only White people know the joy of buying an ice cold beer and a sandwich at the supermarket and drinking in the park.

>>15594561
Is this an elaborate samefag?

>>15595576
>europe
>ice cold beer
haha no

>>15595539
Most households don't have refrigerators, so yes. Google it. We usually dunk our cans in some tap water to make it colder.

>>15595373
kek

>>15595589
If you can't find a cold beer in Europe you're a faggot.
Is it your first week backpacking?
Supermarkets in Europe are allowed to sell liquor, but the only reason people would buy it there is because it's cheap- thus they don't fridge it, power is very expensive in many countries.
Typically there are other stores that sell it chilled- typically corner stores.

But many supermarkets do in fact sell chilled beer- it's in the ready to eat section with the sandwiches.
T. /trv/

>>15595632
i can find shit beer like budweiser and heineken in european refrigerators but all your good beers are stocked on shelves. been to yurop a dozen times, definitely not my first time backpacking. Beer is not liquor.
Corner stores also mostly sell shit like Budweiser and Heineken. All your good shit is lukewarm shelf.

>eurocucks

>>15595576
>go to park
>covid police rush you with batons and knightsticks
>try to flee down an alley to avoid 17 years in jail and a 650,000$ fine for being out in public
>get lost dodging a gypsey shitting in a bucket while on her stolen phone posting a do americans really thread on an imageboard for autists
>accidentally wander into sharia zone
>get my arms chopped off because I forgot to ditch the beer
>die from blood loss and they behead me as the police arrive
>they leave a ticket for being in public during a pandemic on my corpse
>the guardian writes an article about islamophobia

>>15595645
the good beer moves to slow to justify refrigerating it, euros cant afford their own beer they shill and will buy macrobrews just like your average blue collar worker in the US

>>15595645
>why don't europeans refrigerate their beer in grocery stores?
>i can find shit beer like budweiser and heineken in european refrigerators

>>15595795
you know what i mean. you queers only refrigerate awful international beers and keep your drinkable stuff on shelves. you can't deny this. bud and heinke are awful.

>>15595802
Ok, consider how much beer there is in European stores and how much beer there is in American stores. That's A LOT of refrigeration. Even the beer store (canadian) doesn't keep all it's beer in the fridge because that would be prohibitively expensive. They sometimes have a cold room in the back and just conveyor belt it out to the front, but that's cuz a cold room is much more efficient than those shelf fridges.

>>15594325

I don't know but if you wrap them in damp paper towels and put them in the freezer with space for the air to circulate around them they will cool down much faster.

>>15594325
fill a bowl with cold water, ice, salt, and beer cans
stir for 5-10 minutes
you now have cold beer

>>15594325
because fridge space is an incredibly competitive spot and they rather save that spot for actual frozen goods

>>15595837
>fridges are too expensive for poor widde yuropoors
europeans confirmed dirt farming peasants

>>15595861
It's not that 4-5 fridges for a store are too expensive, it's that 14-15 are.

>>15595861
a quarter of Americans live below the poverty line, you just don't know them.

>>15594325
why not just go to a pub?

>>15594325
Fridges are expensive, you could buy a cow instead and help feed your family. This is why we're not used to cold drinks. After a day of work in the field even a warm beer hits the spot.

>>15594325
In Germany you can get cooled beer. It's mostly cans though, because that's what people rather buy if they're on the run.

>>15594325
Because it is meant for home use not to sit in the park like a fucking hobo

>>15595585
Smells like it, yes
Kinda sad if you think about it, all that effort for one shitpost

room temperature in europe is fridge temperature in the good parts of the world

why bother

>>15594349
I'm in England and the Sainsbury's near me has beers and ales both in and out of the fridge. The ones in the fridge seem to cost more, I suppose it's because of the cost of refrigeration and the fact that it holds less booze in the same area. I go for refrigerated only if I know I'll be drinking it right after. I'd rather buy a large volume and just chill however many I'm going to drink as needed.

As for pubs, the booze there is slightly cool, but not cold. Given how cold and wet it can be outside sometimes, the temperature right off the tap is alright, but can depend on the pub. A lot of places now have superchilled taps for Guinness and the like, which are served much colder.

One thing for sure is that it's way easier to knock back multiple pints in less time if they aren't too cold. As to who that benefits, you decide.

>>15594325
Cold larger is for faggots, women and children. Which one are you?

>>15595585
Yes I made a dozen posts replying to myself from various vpn's just to dunk on euros, because it's very important for me to let everyone know how inferior their selection of home appliances are.

>>15594325
>>15594349
>>15594359
>>15594581
>>15594937
>>15595167
>>15595430
>>15595438
>beer should be ICE COLD. i need my beer to be heckin' freezin' before i drink it. Warm beer is icky! There's nothing better than cracking open a COLD ONE

May as well just buy a fucking lemonade you manchildren

>>15594325
Because we do our shopping during the daytime and we don't drink alcohol during the daytime

>>15595167
Maybe the real ones were the friends we made along the way

>>15595405

seethe

harder

faggot

I think it's mostly a Western/Central Europe thing. In Lithuania, however, warm beer is a travesty, therefore you will ALWAYS find beer refrigerated.

>>15595373
>showers can barely fit a fully grown adult
mommies big boy goes to Europe

here in Indiana, groceries are only allowed to sell cider cold
if you want cold beer you have to go to a liquor store

the state is controlled by religious lobbyists who only within the last year or two allowed sunday sales to be legalized

>>15595585
Yes, half the thread is samefag by a mentally unwell American. Imagine not being able to find a fridge with beer in any store lmao, even kiosks have refrigerators for beverages. Never seen a house without a fridge despite having been to Latvia, Sweden, Lithuania, Poland, Hungary, Slovenia, Slovakia, Italy, France and UK.

If you actually enjoy the taste of beer, you dont drink it cold, just slightly chilled.

If you can't drink your beer at room temp it's a bad beer

>>15597000
This. If it is too cold it kills the taste. There's a reason why Americans can't fanthom drinking beer that isn't almost ice-cold: shit pisswater back home that isn't bearable unless almost frozen.

>>15594335
nah, horrible take.
t. euro

>>15597009
It should be chilled. If your beer needs to be cold, you're drinking pisswater or something that tastes bad. Even most commercial beers are ideally chilled, not ice-cold.

>>15594325
In Poland, UK and Germany most stores tend to go with the system of putting most of the beer on shelves just like the remaining wares. However there is almost always a large fridge close to the cash registers where most popular beer is stored in large quantities to go. Cooling all of the shit in store seems excessive if the products don’t need it. Probably has to do with costs and regulations but I have no idea why there is a stereotype of euros not having coolers/fridges in their households, I don’t get it. Air conditioning is something that a lot of people’s places lack though

>>15594325
it's not for degenerates to buy and drink on the spot
its for responsible home owners to stock up on for when they have guests

if you have to be a faggot, just put in in the freezer
>tourist
neck yourself

>>15594325
All those places have cheap readily available beer within walking distance of a hotel.

>>15594325
socialism is the short answer. They also don't have ICE because energy costs are sooo high.

Frankly, memes apart, here in Italy most of the stores has a fridge were you can take cold beverages... especially in the summer.

I also don't think they charge more for the cool bottle (same barcode I believe).

I can't believe I never knew europoors lived like this. Why do we send aid to Africa and Israel when most of Europe has never tasted a cold one?

Do people not keep beer steins in their freezer?

A basic refrigerator costs around $5000 in my country and even more to run it. Fuck you decadent American pigs for taking your privilege for granted.

>>15597014
Might be a semantics issue, but I consider chilled and cold more or less the same

>>15595872
To be fair the national poverty line is pretty disingenuous. I lived much more comfortably at $24k/year in a small rural town than I did at $50k/year in a decent sized city. Just like how now $70k is well off by any metric in most of the states, but an increasing number of locales is basically dirt poor.

>>15597599
What shithole are you in? What’s basic for you?

The amount of unironic yous this samefag is getting is hilarious

>>15594325
I live in france and i fucking agree. Sometimes a few bottles are refrigerated though but I just can't wrap my head around it

>>15594325
America was the first country to have refrigeration,...it's also related to why Americans prefer ice in their soft drinks.

its been 100 years and euros still don't get it lmao

>>15594710
clearly depends on where you live i'm pretty lower class desu and everyone has a refregirator here

>>15594561
where do you live wtf

Why the fuck would you refrigerate a hundred thousand cans/bottles of beer when you can keep cold just a thousand and customers will still be happy?

just drop some ice in them, wala!

>>15597608
Makes sense, np.

>>15594325
No one mentioning the obvious: Europeans are poor. They can't afford to have large refrigerated aisles either from an initial cost or a power/maintenance perspective.

The USA is simply better.

I don't care if this thread is getting samefagged. I choose to believe that most Europeans don't have refrigerators. I will be repeating this fact in other threads. Good luck eurocucks

>>15594325
expensive meme beers usually seem to be in refrigerator

MUH REFRIDGERTORS
*gets shots*
MUH GUNZ
*breaks an ankle*
FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLAR BILLS HAHA I LUV AMERICA
*kneels to BLM*
PROUD TO BE AMERICAN

>>15597882
t. seething warmbeer

>>15597891
At least I don't live in a third wolrd ghetto that is USA LOL.
Imagine having literal shootouts in the streets and being coerced by corporations to kneel for BLM.

It's a nightmare, even the frozen food aisles in Europe are room temperature. Nothing is cold there.

>>15597915
Your IQ is room temperature.

>>15594349
Because us Anglos prefer to drink heartily, but we also prefer to be warm. Having a couple of pints at room after a cold, wet day gets some warmth into ya and doesn't ruin the flavour like boiling them would.

I can tell you about austria and germany they have cold beer in every grocery store for sure, just mostly cans.

>>15594652
We need to liberate Europe! ...again.

>>15594325
Where im from we have alot of crates of 24 beers and they take up alot of space so you just make sure you buy them and chill them at your own home, same with six packs.
Cans are often cooled because thats what people on the go grab.

>>15594325
don't know what they're up to on the continent.
t. finn

On several occasions I politely requested ice for my drink and they were taken aback as if they thought I was scamming them. Its just ice wtf. At one place I was asked to leave because of this.

>>15598061
Damn, American pizza looks like THAT? Us Europeans are required by law to put the cheese on top of the sauce, just one of the many draconic and unnecessary EU regulations. Although even if we could that style would not take off here, I mean that looks way too huge for one person (Europeans have genetically evolved to require significantly reduced caloric intake due to generations of poverty and starvation) and since we have no refrigerators we would just have to trash the leftovers.

>>15594325
I know this is bait but hell, I'll bite anyway.
>czechia
We buy way too much beer for it to be practical to refrigerate all of it - it is assumed you're mostly buying beer to take it home anyway. Besides, if you go to a smaller shop, there is always at least one beer fridge, I don't know what you're on about. Even the supermarkets usually have some beer chilled for immediate consumption, unless you're in some backwater Norma or something.

>>15597310
try finding a second-hand one. you'll save a lot and it might be enough to justify the purchase in the first place.

>>15597833
lol Yuropoors can't afford air conditioners either. Whenever it gets a little warm, they just start keeling over by the thousands.

>>15594652
damn thats pretty crazy actually. you go to the ghettoest nigged out project housing unit in detroit and even them niggaz got a microwave and a fridge

>>15595645
>Corner stores also mostly sell shit like Budweiser and Heineken
Have you tried stepping out of the tourist trap city centres?

>>15594325
The money spent on purchasing, installing and operating the beer fridges gets taxed from the business to pay for healthcare, actually good infrastructure relative to the national wealth, and other public services

Noticed this too when I was in the Netherlands. It pissed me off one night and I just ended up drinking the beer warm. The worst part about that country were the bathrooms. Absolute cuck shit.

ITT: Americans pretending their refrigerated piss is actually beer

Beer has more flavor warm, seethe tastlet

>>15598717
so you're saying steel reserve tastes better warm?

they did a study and they found out european men have bigger pps than amreicans on average, ergo the gun coping and all other nonsense

>>15598329
What if I have no interest in recieving corporate welfare and prefer to support myself?

>>15598730
Move to Congo or osme shit.

>>15594561
Speaking for German supermarkets:
This!
Refrigerators and electricity are quite expensive here. Even the biggest supermarkets only have 1 fridge with some of their beers. In Germany its normal to just buy a full cage of beer every week and have it cold at home already.

>>15594325
>Wet a tea towel
>Wrap around beer
>Put in freezer
>Beer is icy cold in under 5min
Ngmi

>>15598206
LOL

>>15598784
Stop samefagging you mutt

>>15598724
I
Steel reserve isn't beer though. It's shitty malt liquor. Agree that its better chilled than room temperature though

>>15594325
Firstly, this: >>15594335

Secondly, here in Britain there is usually a fridge for some bottles of beer, but yes most of the stuff will be on the shelves

>>15598061
Good looking pizza

>>15598993
>Malt liquor, in North America, is beer with high alcohol content.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malt_liquor

>>15594561
What the fuck i went to go visit my literal junkie mate in the netherlands and even she had a fridge. Who the hell is agreeing with this post?

>>15599140
Samefagging turd of a "human" aka American.

>>15598061
Now THAT'S how you za! You payin attention Eye-talians?

Some do
Some don't
The one I worked at didn't refrigerate beer as it didn't want to attract alcoholics.

>>15598784
It's true. Kasten are always cheaper and easier to handle.

>>15594325
There's separate fridges for alcoholics like you retarded Mutt

>>15594325
I agree that the Netherlands is an exceptionally cheap ass shithole in this regard but supermarkets in other all countries have beer fridges since we have the freedom to drink beer in public here in Europe and so people like to get one for the walk or bring a cold 6-pack directly to the park. Obviously not every beer in the store is refrigerates, that would be a an immensely stupid waste of resources and you are lying if you're trying to convince us that's the case in burgerland.

>>15594561
Once you get used to the higher amount of flavor nuances in warm beer you no longer yearn for a refrigerator.

>>15595373
>admitting to never boiling a stovepot of water before to make coffee
>admitting to being a fatty
>not liking cabbage
1 for 4. Maybe you'll make the Big Leagues someday champ.

Go to a corner store (which ironically aren't always on the corner) and their shitty beer will be cold.

>>15594561
No this is fucking wrong what the fuck, I've NEVER FUCKING EVER met anyone who doesn't own a damn fridge, even ruralfags

>>15594335
Yeah but the refrigeration preserves the beer. If they keep it cold in the store then it'll take longer for it to skunk. I think of it as: 1 minute unrefrigerated = 1 hr refrigerated

>>15599476
Save money, live better, shit pant

>>15599802
germanboi mad

>>15594359
>ice
>in Europe

>>15594561
I lived in Denmark and the beer was always cold in Netto.
Every beer I was served off tap was cold. The only beer I had warm was when I bought a local brewery beer.
A family friend owned a brewery and the beer he served literally out of the cask was cold.
Maybe it’s a central/Southern Europe thing to serve it warm?

>>15595439
This. Though you may wanna adjust the dosage and/or frequency a bit unless you're growing a decent amount at home, both for tolerance and supply reasons.

>>15600226
Normalfags enjoy that flavor in their beer.

>>15601472
Huh? I'm just saying that in the liquor store they should keep it cold, so that it keeps. Why would I want to buy beer that's been sitting unrefrigerated for a few days? That just means it'll spoil faster. When it's beer time I just leave some out on the table to warm up a little

>>15601506
>That just means it'll spoil faster.
Who gives a shit? Do Americans buy beer 5 years in advance or something?

>>15594325
it's to combat alcoholism

Why are europeans such pathetic faggots? Why do so many of them still not own fridges literally 150 years after they were invented?

Even the fucking poorest north americans at least own a fridge.

>>15602025
And even the poorest Europeans have healthcare. What's your point?

>>15602040
>muh whataboutism
Nice argument you poor cunt. I'm gonna go get a cold drink from my fridge. Enjoy your room temperature tap water.

>>15602049
Look, there's trade-offs between living in any part of the world, and that point goes double for any Europeans as well. I'm sure you realize that and are just having a fun time shitposting, though. FWIW I'm a flyover American.

>>15602066
I'm from Canada and have both healthcare and a fridge. Doesn't change the fact that tons of Europeans in supposed first world countries don't have a fucking fridge.

Do Americans really think people in Europe don't have fridges?

>>15594325
We usually have a small refrigirated shelf for single beers in Germany for the alcholics who cant even wait one hour for their beer to get cool in their fridge or who need to drink beer "on the go".

>>15602025
I've never seen a house without a fridge in Europe. Not even in the poorest parts. Stop samefagging and LARPing you pathethic fat c*ck.

>>15602087
The same ones, who pretend that not all Americans live in trailer parks.

>>15602075
In many cases, the lack of things that we find indisposable isn't because the people in question are poor or backward, but because those things are not indisposable to them. Many people in Europe (broadly generalizing here) have easy access (within walking distance) to stores that offer fresh food that they'll prepare daily, making a source of constant refrigeration unnecessary. This also means many of them will not own vehicles, and yet the income of most Europeans is equal to the income of most North Americans. It's not a poverty issue, but a societal difference.

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>>15598784
super elaborate samefag, ignore comments supporting this

>>15602132
>Americans think people in Europe don't own cars or refrigerators

>>15602132
You're talking out of your own arse. I've travelled and lived in countless European countries. I've literally NEVER seen a house without a fridge. Most people own a car, or use a shared car within the family. Currently I am in Italy, and it is almost impossible to live without a car unless you live in a big city like Milan, Rome, et al. Closest shops I have are at least 40 minutes walk. Nearest shop that sells anything is a bakery and a pasticceria. I think they also do gelate. While the bakery sells cured meats and some cheeses, I need to drive 20 mins from here to a commercial area full of bigger supermarkets when doing shopping in bulk. The Europeans don't own/use cars is a massive meme by people who literally don't know what they are talking about or intentional bait.
Pic related for Italy. I can guarantee that the 20% who don't """own""" a car drive someone else's (on paper) as it costs way more than rest of EU to transfer ownership: it can be up to 400€ with our useless bureaucracy. Why are Americans so uneducated about "Europe"? Stop repeating bait as if it were fact. Funny story: my gf was driving her grandparents car for a long time as it was their gift. The car was technically theirs, but they obviously avoided the ownership fee. They were quite old and passed away, but the car stayed on their name. She drove that car for nearly two years AFTER until they had to change the ownership of it for whatever reasons.

>>15602164
>gelate.
Gelato*
By nearest shop I mean a supermarket. The bakery and the pastry shop are more like 15 mins walk. But you can't buy everything there, and the local town's fruit and vegetable market isn't always open, and I only use them semi-regularly. 80% of my groceries are brought at bulk from large supermarket chains for reference.

>>15594325
>drinking beer
You invited suffering upon yourself.

>>15594325
It's because during the war they didn't have proper access to refrigeration

>>15594325
In Germany our supermarkets sell most beer by room temperature. That's because you're meant to buy it beforehand, and you can cool it at home. You can also buy single bottles and cans of beer cooled, if you want to drink them right away. We don't sell whole cases of beer, because if you are not alcoholic scum, theres no point in summer where you will think "fuck I need a cool case of bee right now!".
The cheapest of the cheapest shit like Aldi and Lidl have no cooled beer at all I think. Probably OP only went there because he is a fucking poorfag.

>>15602419
This, it's the same in NL. Normal people have a special beer fridge in the garage, basement or garden shed and a FIFO system to guarantee cold beer when drinking.

>>15602419
>aldi and lidl like a poorfag
no. sort your shit out, kraut. learn to chill your beer. if you can keep your reisling cold, you can chill your beer. no excuses.

>>15594325
>they have their beer on normal shelves which means if i want to bring some bottles back to the hotel i have to chill them for 4 fucking hours before they're drinkable.

also means its skunked and ruined

>>15602498
I don't even get what you mean. Do you really think Germans don't drink their beer cold? They do. And Riesling isn't chilled in Lidl or Aldi either.

>>15602547
>not chilling 2€ riesling for alcoholics in supermarkets

>>15597064
The alcohol companies will also pay for certain space in fridges.

>>15594357
>red wine is fucking disgusting
>>15594371
>rose
hoooooly fuck you are a massive fag lmao

>>15594561
do yuropoors actually?>>15594561

>>15594652
I heard some households even have more than one television. in colour !

>>15595390
That´s what they made the idiot part of their populace believe, yes. And then they did not have enough polish nurses during the pandemic and the produce rotted on the fields because noone would wanted to pick it for a minimum wage or could bear the hard work if they tried.
Real reason is the rich elite does not want to live with the new european anti money laundering legislature.

>>15594325
>i have to chill them for 4 fucking hours

>take your ice bucket
>fill it half way with cold water
>dump in some salt and mix
>put your beer in
>fill it up the rest of the way with beer
>wait 30 minutes
>perfectly chilled beer

>>15594937
Texas doen´t even have elctricity atm >>> calling other countrys third world. LOL
At least you don´t really NEED a working refrigerator right while freezing to death.

>>15602990
>fill it up the rest of the way with beer
ice, not beer. Ice. Fill the ice bucket with ice. Unless you like really salty beer.

>>15602824
hey at least we're not boese, and circumcised
*opens beer from the refrigerator*

>>15595632
every real supermarket has cold beer here.
amerimutt probaly tried to buy plastic bottled beer in a fucking LIDL or ALDI.
That´s really the only options i now about without cold drinks around here.

>>15594325
>i have to chill them for 4 fucking hours
more like half a fucking hour
only shitty beer needs to be ice cold to mask the flavor, same as with any alcohol really

>>15602139
>super elaborate samefag, ignore comments supporting this
>super elaborate samefag
Take your meds.

>>15595585
Yes it is. Its the same person that had been spamming the same pasta for months.
Probably some ameripoor being jealous

>>15595748
Europe is richer than the u.s.
Far higher standards of living

>>15603174
See >>15603199

>>15603229
You take your meds, spammer.

>>15599029
You faggots prefer warm beer. Don't speak.

>>15594325
Germany, yes.
a) it would be a huge effort to cool literal warehouses full of beer
b) there's usually always a fridge somewhere with single bottles
c) you're obviously a faggot who can't plan ahead even a second

>>15603235
Mad that multiple people are calling you out? Stay schizo, nigger

>schizoid screams "take your meds" while shitposting 24/7 and spamming his bait non-stop

>>15596543
Have sex numale, stop thinking in reddit memes too

>>15594335
I honestly prefer even pisswater at room temp. I’m not sure if the habit started before or after I broke a bunch of teeth and got extreme sensitivity to cold, but I’m not going back now.

>>15595742
mental illness

>>15594782
>i've been to a dozen different shops in all of my original post, all the beers were on room temp shelves.
Do euros have weird alcohol laws that vary by area? In my home state grocery stores can’t sell anything but warm beer and wine, gas stations have no cold beer but can have cold wine, stupid shit like that. Megamarts seem to get an exception for some reason.

>>15594561
Europe is 2nd world at best wow...

>>15594325
I lived 20 years in yurup and never had a warm beer.
OP outing himself as a dumb tourist who didnt ask the shopkeeper for a cold one and settled for shelf piss.
Lmaoing at your sad life kiddo

>>15595365
Most americans are barely scraping past poverty tier purely because we’re perfecting the debt slavery mode of living, don’t kid yourself.

i once knew someone who would just bring a chilled 12 pack of shitty domestic beer to their room and just drink out of the box all night instead of keeping it chilled and getting up and grabbing one or two when they wanted more. it seemed very sadistic and tasteless to me.

>>15603665
Yes, leftists who routinely dismiss observable realities like those are mentally ill.

>>15603802
>reads /pol/ once

>>15603828
>visits 4chan once

>>15603967
That "once" was 10 year ago.

>>15603971
We can tell, thweety.

euro here, please help and get me the fuck out here

>>15601437
This, but it's more them serving the warm beer to tourists so they can piss off while the locals enjoy the coldskis.

>>15604041
Seethe harder, ameripoor

>>15603727
Only Scandis have stupid laws like Americans when it comes to alcohol. In most countries alcohol can be sold everywhere at every time. many countries even have legal drinking ages at 16 for either non distilled alcohol or alcohol that is under 15% or things like that.

>>15600226
macrobreweries always pasteurize their beer, refrigerated or not, the expiration date is always the same.

>>15604033
Ey ASSHOLE

You don't chill ales, you donut

>>15604984
yes you do

>>15594325
>why don't europeans refrigerate their beer in grocery stores?
Because it's not considered normal or acceptable for people to just buy six packs to guzzle right out of the store.
You'll easily find refrigerated bottles in every bar or snack shop, but not in groceries.

>>15605697
GuZzLe OuTsIdE tHe StOrE
like i said in my OP, i wanted to bring some back to the hotel.
apparently euros can't into refrigeration OR reading comprehension

>>15604300
cope

>>15606699
You've been proven wrong like 200 posts earlier, so why insist on larping fridges are some rare occurrence in Europe?

>>15607827
He's been doing it for years. Literal schizo patient

>>15594325
you're either trolling or mentally retarded. I'm Hungarian and there's a beer fridge in the overwhelming majority of food stores, even in the tiniest gypsy-infested shitholes

pfft the "warm beer, cold food" meme is real

>>15608582
food doesn't have to be piping hot to be tasty you absolute manchild, why don't you learn how to cook properly

There's seperate coolers for alcoholics on the go. Look at the cold drinks section.

>>15608597
there are no cold drinks sections in european grocery stores, dipshit

>>15608661
There are, you samefagging retard.

>>15608661
Supermarkets here used to have a few fridges with drinks but they seem to have all died out.

>>15608669
Schizoid at work. Makes a retarded claim, pretends to be from Europe and replies to himself with an even more retarded, false claim.

there's a cooler for autists and americans

>>15608661
Wrong. I should know, I'm an Euro. Get the fuck out of my continent tourist.

>>15594325
buy the beer 4 hours earlier then?
or just add ice?

>>15594325
That's a lie. Yes, Most of it is not refrigerated. But there also ist Always some to find which ja refrigerated. Stupid nigga, fuck Off with your racebaiting /pol/ bait.

>>15608764
it's been established in this thread that you continentals don't have ice

>>15594357
Imagine being this guy

>>15608758
>I'm an Euro
>Euro
Nice try.

>>15594702
This 99%

>>15594325
wut

>>15594325
Tbh I prefer warm beer
>nb4 I'm American

>>15597599
ok amerishill

Masterclass of zero effort trolling by schizo OP

>>15610347
>go to 5+ countries
>none of their stores have cold beer, can only get it in bars or restaurants
>SCHIZO
seething yurocuck

>>15594325
haven't read the thread, but it's because they're too poor. Compare GDP per capita of shithole states like Arkansas with european countries

>>15602824

>>15594561
Obtuse exaggeration playing off the noticeable retail purchase power inferiority of all Europeans.
British and Germans especially are rapidly being relegated to miniature refrigerators (like one you have in college), making them more dependent on takeaway and dining out, making them poorer.
There's simply not enough space and capital for a billion people in Europe to live like Americans when you refuse to extract natural resources because fags and bugmen.

>>15601686
I mean in the store. In a small town you don't know how long it's been out especially if you're buying microbrew stuff

>>15612403
It would be hard to believe they actually think this way if I couldn't see it for myself on this site

>>15604472
I don't buy macrobrews

Schizoid OP keeps bumping this and a few other butthurt threads about Europe everytime they reach the page 10. Half of the replies in this post alone are the OP.
Here >>15613048
>>15612478

>>15602971
There's Nipkow discs in color?!?

>>15594325
You don't find them in the fridge department because you're supposed to put them in YOUR fridge
If you want it cold italian stores have a mini freezer near the exit

>>15594325
Why can americans only drink beer that is so cold that you can barely taste it at all?
It's like a step above becomming a slushice. And the fuck is up with those retarded coozies or whatever theyre called? What, you cant drink your bottles of thin piss water kif it gets just a single degree above freezing?

because they're a store, not a restaurant. you refrigerate them yourself

>>15614368
neither of those are me, retard

>>15615800
>>15615814
stop drinking warm beer

>>15594325
But they are refrigerated in most stores? Were you living in some absolutely shit part of the city or something anon? Even if, the shelves are not heated up or anything, the beer is already cold from it, how damn cold do you want your beers?

>>15616361
from countryside towns to major cities i never see beer in stores under 30 celcius. fridge your shit.

>>15594561
Damn, that's depressing. I'm sorry you guys have to live like that.

>>15616373
You are either just lying or your luck is 0%. Any grocery store here has a fridge for beer, even a small one, and if not, the beer off a shelf is like 15 degrees C.

my experiences in germany (combined 3 months, stayed with a working class retired couple + upper-middle class family) were that beer is sold unrefrigerated because the tendency is for people to just have a constant supply of beer. so by the time you go and buy more (returning your bottles in the crate when you do so) you still have a crate at home. ppl often leave the crate unrefrigerated and just refrigerate a few at a time, once again rotating in new bottles as you drink the already refrigerated ones.

basically it's taken for granted that you have already have a supply of refrigerated beer by the time you go buy more

>>15616565
also if you're just trying to get "a" beer or two you can go to one of the mini marts and buy them refrigerated.

>>15616495
>>15616578
if you read the thread, you'll see that i said they only keep shitty beer like heineken in the fridges and no good local brews.

drinking on the way home from aldi

>>15616740
>aldi
lol poor

>page 9
cheeky bump

Go back to drinking bud light, yank

>>15618181
learn to cool your beer, tommy

>>15616738
that's entirely untrue. Stop talking out of your ass retard.

>>15618211
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T USE PERSONAL EXPERIENCE
prove to me that your grocery stores refrigerate their beers
protip, you can't. dilate.

>>15594325
it depends on the store, most of them have both refridgeated and shelf beer

>>15618236
Whatever retard. I have been living in Germany all my life. No need to proof anything to a tourist shizo tranny poster. have sex.

>>15618399
seething kraut with warm beer

>>15598061
t. amerifat who lives in a wooden cardboard house

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>>15594335
Wrong

>>15618585
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getting up there, we can reach 300 easy

>>15594561
I lived in Europe more than ten years ago and every single person I came into contact with in Germany, France, Switzerland, and Austria owned a fridge.

>>15619173
doubt it

the liquor store by me does this and it drives me nuts, but their selection is unbeatable so I just cope

>>15594561

Euros usually only have small dormroom type mini-fridges.

>>15619173
That's a complete lie

>>15594652
>It's always kind of boggled my mind to think about every single household and store in America had at least one refrigerator.

If they have kids, it's almost guaranteed they have a 2nd full-size fridge either in the basement or garage and many Americans have a 2nd fridge even if they don't have kids.

>>15603784
>Most americans are barely scraping past poverty tier

Even an American living in poverty has a fridge, a car and a home or apartment (without three generations of relatives crammed in with them).

>>15595852
>fill a bowl with ice

From the frigerator you don't have because you life in medieval Europe?

>>15596993
>the state is controlled by religious lobbyists who only within the last year or two allowed sunday sales to be legalized

I believe you still have to wait until noon to buy alcohol on a Sunday in Michigan?

>>15619383
This. It's always funny to me that yuros don't know this.

>>15597008

America has the widest selection of beer on the planet and yes, ALL beer should be cold.

>>15597674

There’s a scene in Downton Abbey, which is set in the 1920s, where the American relatives comes to visit and the butler is annoyed at having to go downstairs to get ice for the American’s drink. Later in the series, the manor gets a frigerator and the (American born) lady of the manor has to convince the cook to use it.

>>15594325
There's usually some "little refrigerators" around with cold beer, sodas, energy-drinks, etc.
At least in my country.

>>15598329
>The money spent on purchasing, installing and operating the beer fridges gets taxed from the business to pay for welfare for the ravening hordes of foreign migrants.

FTFY

>>15619498
Better than wageslaving for Israel. All your tax money goes to Israel while you get no healthcare

>>15594359
Euros are too poor to have ice though

>>15619442
>America has the widest selection of beer
/doubt

>>15620833
We do though.