/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>15481798
Yes. Grind into a pate and enjoy on a cracker. Post results.

>>15481801

Can I just cut it up and eat it?

>>15481816
Yeah go for it man. Should be totally safe and have a unique flavour profile.

>>15481838

>>15481838
I ate 1

>>15481847
What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger. Unless you’re this guy, then it might kill you.

https://www.businessinsider.com/student-died-in-his-sleep-after-eating-5-day-old-pasta-that-had-been-left-out-2019-1

>>15481844
>>15481844
It looks like literal poo.

>>15481853
Taste is very spicy. I ate 3. My dog ate 1

>>15481859
i hope you are lying. I dont think people are that retarded

>>15481866
My dog ate it without me knowing, he lunged for 1 basically.

I feel fine so far, pretty good.

>>15481868
i dont believe you those are year old. noone would be retarded enough to store organ meat for a year, the smell would be terrible and the consistency wouldnt look like that. stop larping faggot

>>15481850
based prepfag

I feel really nice actually, pretty mellow

>>15481891
If you really did try it you ate such a small amount you’ll likely just get the shits badly.

I've never tried it, but plenty of other fermented foods like sauerkraut are safe, not to mention fermented meat like salami. You probably just have to make sure you do it right

>>15482123
>You probably just have to make sure you do it right
lol yeah probably so

>>15481894
not necessarily, botulism and other toxins only need to enter your body in tiny amounts.

>>15481859
>>15481868
You're an asshole. Killing yourself is fine but allowing your dog to suffer the consequences of your stupidity is unforgivable.

>>15482218
NOOO NOT THE HECKIN PUPPERINO

>>15482123
>salami
>fermented

Lmaooo based retard

>>15482251
Isn't dry aging meat just fermenting?

>>15482257
Lol. No.. also, salami isnt dry/aging. It is cured and then aged (dried). It grows a different type of mold on it

Dry aging has to be done in a specific humidity range so that it is able to DRY out while the lacto-bacillus bacteria do their job at breaking down the meat in a controlled way and imparting a more complex flavor. Putting raw liver in a sealed jar and leaving it for a year is not the same thing.

>>15481877
>noone would be retarded enough to store organ meat for a year
They're probably followers of this retard
https://www.youtube.com/watch/qiC4qEqpqak

>>15481798
Boil the liver. Add some of the stock, one whole butter, black pepper, salt, raw onion and garlic. Blend everyting. Toast some bread and spread over.

>>15482299
>raw onion
>year old rotten liver
>one whole butter
>enjoy

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>>15482305
Ive done this recipe many. Not with a year old organ tho.

>>15482296
What the fuck is this channel?
>My Autism Got Worse Because of Veganism
>Eating 8 Month Old Veal Brain (High Meat)
>A Balanced Diet Causes Imbalance
>Why Is the Elite Unhealthy If They Drink Human Blood?
>Seeds: Why Most People Are Mentally Ill

>>15482296
Oh no, I actually feel physically sick.

>>15482310
Why wouldnt you sautee the onion? Why do you hate yourself? Why would you want sharp raw onion flavor against delicate liver flavor?

>>15482251
>>15482288
Salami is fermented, moron. It's fermentation that gives it the characteristic lactic acid taste. Your assertion is only true to the degree that certain large manufacturers making inferior product don't ferment and add acids instead to imitate real salami.

>>15482725
DING DING DING RETARD ALERT

its not fermented like kimchi or sauerkraut. its cured and then air dried which allows a certain species of desirable mold to grow on it. its not “fermented” like what OP did or how things are dry aged. like i fucking said in my posts you jerkoff.

its a controlled process involving curing salts, specific temperature and specific humidity. Let me guess, youve never even made coppa or a prosciutto before LOL

>>15482928
>Salami
>From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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>For other uses, see Salami (disambiguation).
>Not to be confused with Salumi or Salafi.

>Salami (/səˈlɑːmi/ sə-LAH-mee) is a cured sausage consisting of FERMENTED and air-dried meat

>>15482940
>wikipedia

>>15482353
it simply feels more fresh and light with raw onion

>>15482340
kek

>>15482975
>Facts are a lie!

>>15482995
>wikipedia
>facts

>>15481859
you cunt, should've given 2 for your dog

>>15483006
>>15482975
Dude you just got flip flopped and fucking toasted don’t try to come back from this

It’s anonymous my guy just leave it’s okay

>>15482940
It's fermented, but the fermentation is highly controlled: curing salts to protect it from undesirable pathogens until the mold can create a semi-permanent protective covering by creating a hostile environment for dangerous bacteria or fungi and monopolizing resources and climate control to ensure that it can effectively dry out.

Fermented meats are a series of careful preparation methods performed correctly to prevent deadly foodborne illness through time proven preservation techniques. It's totally different from leaving uncured meat in your fridge for 9 months and saying "LOL!"

>>15483025
that wasn't the guy you're arguing with because that guy is me. you're arguing in bad faith here as you know nothing about curing meats like this. it's absolutely not a "fermentation".

after incorporating your meats/spices/sodium nitrate, you let it hang out in a high humidity environment around 70F for 2-3 days or until it gets a hint of the desired sour/funky smell. then you dry at ~60F at ~80% humidity for 2-3 months or until it drops 45% of its weight.

so no, it's not "fermented" like vegetable ferments or whatever the disgusting OP did. to call it fermented is technically correct but disingenuous given the context

>>15483065
**35% of weight, typo

>>15483065
> so no, it's not "fermented" like vegetable ferments or whatever the disgusting OP did. to call it fermented is technically correct but disingenuous given the context

>>15483079
the one poster said "fermented foods like sauerkraut or even fermented meat like salami", implying the processes are the same and that OP's is probably fine because those things are tangentially related.

god damn you are a retard

American isn't collapsing, it's already collapsed and inhabited by brain dead fucking monkeys

>>15482940
Salami is a generic word for thousands of recipe, not even knowing that basics on a cooking board is like going on /a/ to talk about totally spies.

>>15481798
if you haven't been airing it out this whole time you're probably going to get botulism or some other issue related to anaerobic bacteria

I'm here from /cum/

>>15483090
:DDDD it's okay anon, we all make mistakes. But at least you learned something about fermenting today, and learning is good. :)

>>15483598
youre VERY annoying. go ferment some meat and roll it into sausages you faggot

>>15482296
He can live on a meat only diet, so you're the retard. Nigger.

>>15483568
Didn't ask.

>>15481866
I'm not so sure high meat is the superfood some people claim it is, but I know lots of people eat it without dying. Supposedly it's really good for your gut health.

>>15483702
wasn't a response

>>15482288
>>15482928
What's it like to be so sure of yourself while also being completely wrong? Jesus christ people like you really shit this board up.
What do you call it when you feed dextrose (sugar) and it produces gas (humidity) as a biproduct?

>>15483853

*when you feed dextrose to a starter culture.
is what I meant to say and eat shit read it sideways because I'm not rotating it.

>>15483740
>I know lots of people eat it without dying
Lots of people eat lots of things without dying, but all it takes is one screwup to break the streak.

>>15483947
Yea I agree and I wouldn't eat it either. Pretty sure you could get any of high meats alleged health benefits from properly fermented food.

>>15483853
Ive already clarified if youd read the thread instead of getting so assblasted that you had to post a sideways photo. Ill admit ive never used starter culture but you definitely always add sugar of some sort.

Calm your tits

>>15484277
>Ill admit ive never used starter culture
oh no no no........

>>15484329
Do you think the lads making salamis back in ye olden days had starter cultures? Do you use starter cultures for vegetable ferments? Fermentation is a step of the process but would you ever refer to salami as fermented meat in any way comparable to what OP is talkkng about

>>15484338
Absolutely yes. They didn't understand how it worked, but they had ritualized processes that ensured it would work. I forget the exact details, but I remember reading about something, I think it might have been beer brewers or bakers or something, who had sort of a big ritual magical spoon they'd use to stir shit, which they would not wash in between, and they'd use for multiple batches, so of course it would inoculate each batch with the same yeasts, or at least so the story goes

>>15482296

>>15484355
Im not disputing that, just like how they “knew” about rennet without really knowing how it worked. Im obviously not a pro charcuterie chef but i have actually made genoa salami, coppa, prosciutto, capicola and cured duck “prosciutto”. Lots of experience with dry aging, from beef to lamb to squad (squab gets way too weird after two weeks, impossible to cook to med rare. 1-2 weeks is best).

Id love to do it professionally for a bit desu

>>15484338
They had successful recipes and techniques borne through superstition that were handed down by word of mouth because the unsuccessful preservation methods tended to preclude word of mouth for obvious reasons.

Old pickle makers didn't know the chemistry or biology behind why salt brines help preserve cabbage but they knew that the metric for safe salinity was whether an egg floated in your brine.

>>15482296
Sw*den, not even once.

>>15484277
>here's why I'm wrong and some more words for no reason

>>15484329
This

>>15484355
Pretty much all of this. With salami they would scrape off some of the outer layer of a finished salami and add it in the mix with fresh meat, which is literally a starter culture even though it's not produced in a laboratory. Yeast and starter cultures exist all around us in nature.

>>15484438
I can't believe you're still here at this point.

>>15484587
do you have friends irl? if not, is this why you lash out at anonymous internet strangers?

>>15484626
I was only rude to the one retard saying LOL after everything while also being wrong. Is that you?

Guys, GUYS! Shut up! All of you!

Did anyone notice that among all the arguing that OP hasn't posted anything else? I think they died...

>>15482296
this is what runescape does to your brain

>>15481850
What is wrong with the world?

>>15482180
Botulism is unlikely and only produced toxin in an anabolic state which is why it’s associated with canned food

>>15482288
>while the lacto-bacillus bacteria do their job at breaking down the meat in a controlled way and imparting a more complex flavor
That is caller fermentation

>>15483646
>go ferment some meat and roll it into sausages
>implying rot’n sos’g is the same as fermented sausage
Now I KNOW you’re trolling

>>15485272
Good riddance.

>>15485362
>anabolic state
Fucking shit.

Can we shut the fuck up about salami now? Who gives a shit?

>>15485368
Its called dry-aging

>>15486025
i was being hyperbolic

>making salami is the same as dry aging is the same as making sauerkraut is the same as the OP

got it

>>15481798
Not sure if it really counts but pickled herring is pretty common here and me and my dad eat it everyday.
Just eat pickled herring instead of weird and probably dangerous "high meat"

bait thread

>>15487941
>bumping a dead thread to page 1
Nice!!!
>>15487676
>is the same as the OP
Close, but OP is still a faggot

>>15489392
And you just bumped the thread from page 10

>>15489383
>>bumping a dead thread to page 1
look at the time difference between my post and yours.
Have another one.

>>15484626
Always weirds me out to see people like this on 4chan. Why are you here? 2/10 if trollan.

>>15487706
What's it taste like? Vinegar reduces fishy taste so I'm curious what this would be like.

>>15481798
Try some beers and a joint next time bro.

>>15490272
Its hard to describe desu.
Imagine the difference between cucumber and gherkins and then apply that to herring. Its kind of spicy and a must try imo

>>15487706
How do you eat it? Just take a forkful out of the can or put it in a sandwich, or something?

>>15487527
>NOOOOOOO DON’T TALK ABOUT EDIBLE FOOD!!!!!! TALK ABOUT MY TROLL TOPIC OF EATING ROTTEN MEAT!!!!!!

>>15482224
Compassion for pets isnt reddit you literal psychopath

>>15489414
based necropostmancer

>>15493009
yes it is. Kill yourself.

>>15487676
Dry-aging is just a form of fermentation you sperglord

>>15493795
You first, your Edginess. I guarantee your inability to care about anything but yourself is making the world an even shittier place to live.

>>15484277
You didn’t clarify shit other than the fact that you’re moving the goalposts in your own game. You got called out on something and instead of being an adult and saying “my mistake, I see where I was wrong” you try to suggest that you are only “technically” wrong and that his mentioning of fermentation is not the definition of fermentation that you accept therefore you’re right and everybody else is a retard.

>>15483947
>>15483982
I feel like you at the hands of your butcher with this garbage meme.If you actually got clean meat and got predictable culture growth, I can see people not instantly dying from eating this rotten stuff. I don't want to know what happens when a butcher scratches his ass quite thorough before preparing your meat though.

A lot of these retards recommend to use grass fed instead of grain fed beef. Maybe this way they steer people into higher quality meats as well so their followership does not keel over after a month of this diet.

>>15490272
>>15492816
You can just slap it on a buttered roll or rye bread.
What's popular in some parts of Germany and the more northern countries is Heringssalat, herring salad.
There's many recipes, but it often contains onions, apples, mayo and or yoghurt, gherkins, pickled herring and in this pictures case red beets.
Pretty noice if you like fish.

>>15492816
I just take it out of the jar put it on a plate and slowly eat it, same way I eat deenz and tinned herring but slower because the flavour is so strong

>>15481798
you are most likely going to die but your dog will be fine

OP post update

do westerens not eat liver that often? I cut it up and fry it on a pan with some onions
serve it with potatoes and some cabbage salad

>OP posted 2 days ago
>No updates
>Nigga that ate 5 day old pasta died overnight
Uh....Guys?

>>15495067
lmao if he wasnt funposting and actually ate that, hes definitely a goner and we are better off without him

>>15495121
Pretty much this.

>>15495067
>find Tupperware full of pasta under pile of dishes
>huh what's this doing out here
>puts back into fridge
>dies from eating it

>>15495061
Nah I wouldn't call it a popular meal in the west