/ck/ - Food & Cooking

What is the best cheap coffee? I love getting the good stuff from online or in person at my local places but it ends up being expensive in the long run.

What do you get? Trader Joe's coffee? Some bottom shelf shit you force yourself to drink? Some kind of chain brand like from Wawa or Dunkin or whoever else?

>>15421291
I drink Community Coffee. It's pretty decent and local.

There's something pleasing about a coffee machine that doesn't need electric power to run.

>>15421332
Based. How do I fix my black coffee game bros? I have a little espresso machine and an aeropress bit neither produce the black coffee flavor I want. They are really good with cream though.

>>15421332
>There's something pleasing about a coffee machine that doesn't need electric power to run.

>110 Volts/800 Watts

>>15421252
Prince Rupert represent.

Anyone have any experience with these? I inherited one recently

>>15421386
>36 fl oz
>about 1 litre

too much for one person or even two people really

>>15421397
>36 oz.
>Too much for one person.
What?

>>15421440
Don't make all the coffee you're going to drink throughout the day all at once because every cup after the first is going to taste stale and gross.

>>15421445
That's when you add salt to it.

>>15421397
>litre
lmao virgin europoor with his fragile .5 litre stomach afraid of a MANS serving

>>15421445
I'd drink that within about 45 minutes. Seriously, 40 oz. is roughly 8 coffee "cups" and that's what I put in my thermos or make for drinking in the morning.

>>15421454
enjoy ulcer

>>15421252
Oh wow this makes me miss Montreal.

>>15421501
I don't drink it every day.

>>15421252

Newbie here, what machine should I get for the best espresso and lungo?

>>15421856
>best
Black Eagle

>>15421252
The interior is like being in a hippy womb, but the people are friendly there and the owner is an absolute sweetheart, so they get my business.

>>15421252

You're literally drinking the most hipsterish and over priced coffee in the city and derp since we have curfew.

>>15421859
okay, let me rephrase... The best machine for household use at a reasonable pricepoint, lets say up to 1000$.

cartoons!

>>15421890
Whoops, forgot picture.

Is this the real coffee thread? That other one looks fake.

my kinu grinder finally arrived

Why does coffee make my head hurt?
It didn't hurt when I used to drink Turkish or coffee ground with a blade grinder. Now that I use a proper manual burr grinder, my head really hurts after drinking the coffee

>>15423318
Are you drinking too much coffee? I drink too much after I get a thing or new and exciting beans.

A few weeks ago I asked my mom how much the big thing of Folger's she gets from Costco was (I think she said like $12) and I think she misinterpreted it to mean I wanted her to get me one for my birthday which she did. I tried some today and it's terrible. I forgot what bad coffee tastes like. I think I'm going to throw it out

Are coffee places that go out their way to call themselves vegan worth it?

>>15423460
Usually the selling point is the coffee, not the lack of milk. I would be wary.

>>15421252
I usually get an espresso from my local hipster roaster or my gf's restaurant, which gets their espresso from the same roaster.
If I'm honest it hurts my pride a bit, I work at a coffeehouse in the same area, but our coffee is the worst in the city. We get coffee from a third-rate roaster, use a Rancilio Epoca from 2004 that has never been taken care of and barely functions, and have an owner and manager who don't like or care about coffee in the slightest.
I used to work at a really nice shop, but covid wiped it out. I miss it, my passion is dying fast working at this third-rate shithole. Doesn't help I'm the only one with proper barista training who works their.
Pic related, the quad I snagged from my girl's work, was super nice.

>>15421921
Rancilio Silva (not the pro) or Breville Bambino/Express.

>>15421937
Looks based desu.

>>15421856
A machine isn't going to make the espresso for you. You're going to have to get something to learn on if you're interested. I'd say get a flair, but the water capacity isn't big enough for a lungo. For a grand I'd go for a silvia or gaggia with all the mods you can throw at it(opv, pid, preinfusion), and a hand grinder.

Final few beans of this ruby roast. That longer shot time completely rounded out the sharp finish I got last time. Much longer, much less astringent on the finish, and the chocolate lingers. Pulling some more cheap brazilian next, yellow bourbon semi washed. Same farm I believe.

bump

>>15423460
I would say no, but it’s so common nowadays in any trendy urban area. All it means is they don’t carry real milk. Coffee could go either way.

>Fellow Stagg XF pour-over
>filters cost 18 cents each
>no way to buy for cheaper in larger quantities

Why do they think they can do this?

>>15426132
because u coffee nonce's will pay for em

>>15426132
because retards buy it instead of a v60

>>15426132
>see very nice gooseneck kettle
>oh shit but what do I make
>proceed to buy their shittier pourover set
That's what they think is happening.

Just started using regular filter papers in my v60 and can't taste the difference

>>15426559
Paper filters all have slightly different flow rates. Odds are very good you can find a cheap paper filter with a flow rate close enough to an expensive one that it doesn't matter. Be wary of anything that uses a non-universal shape. In my experience white (bleached) papers can have a negative taste. I generally avoid those.

coffee newfag, using a moka pot, don't have a grinder
if I order preground in pourover grind, that's basically medium-fine right?

Is coffee good for you?

any Comandante niggers out there? I need some help breh. I don't know what the 0 setting is. do you guys use all your strength in twisting the adjustment until you can't twist anymore? i feel like i've been brewing at tp to +/- 2 clicks because of this. sometimes i can go for extra clicks. sometimes maybe my fingers are week and i can't twist further.

should i be going all the way with all my strength every time?

>>15426868
Stop doing that. Do not twist hard. Zero is just when the handle does not move freely. Tightening harder than that into sub-zero can damage the burrs.

>>15426973
fuck me. yeah. googled it right after. i've been going up to NEGATIVE fucking 8. jesus christ i hope i didn't damage anything. it still seems to grind fine but fuck i'll go inspect it now.

Is their a site I can browse several brands of whole bean, roasted coffee for sale? Not amazon, please.

Side question, has anyone tried Stocking Mill Coffee, they sell up to 5 pound bags but I don't wanna go all in on crap.

>>15421252
i'm quarantining with my parents because fuck paying big city rent when all the cultural institutions are shut down. unfortunately my neighborhood cafe closed and i'll never see it again. it got replaced with this soulless modern trash.

>>15423183
How is it?

So guys, I've been dipping into brewing for the last 3 years with a cheapo $150 espresso machine, pour over coffee, an aeropress, a moka pot, got myself a pretty good grinder, and now I want to take espresso making to a whole new level with a milk steamer, probably make latte art. What do you guys suggest? Got 1K burger bucks to spare.

>>15423350
Oh yeah I do drink a lot. I hate it when it's not enough to fill a 200ml cup, even if it's espresso.
I drink 2 200ml cups a morning.

>>15427022
At least there's still a cafe open for you.

>>15421785
real yakubian devil vibe here

>>15427416
its really nice, but its extremely heavy. i didn't realize it weighed a kilo

>>15421332
This post perfectly encapsulates the incrediby bold and blind stupidity of the average poster on /ck/.
I fear for every person who comes to this board seeking advice.

>>15427012
Drinktrade.

>>15426999
> i've been going up to NEGATIVE fucking 8

Kek. /ctg/ ruin your grinder edition.

>>15427666
>for a grand I'd go for a silvia or gaggia with all the mods you can throw at it(opv, pid, preinfusion).

>>15421501
Who has stomach troubles from pour over coffee? Over-steeped black tea with lemon added can make me a little nauseous on an empty stomach but I regularly (every day since mid-2020 at least, before then I didn't "fast" in the mornings) drink at least 32oz of pour over coffee before my first meal of the day, no troubles at all.

>>15426559
Compared to?

Also make sure you get the 40 count boxes of filters, or one of the clones/variants on the orginal from Cafec. Hario apparently went to shit over the last 5 years and is most of their product line's manufacturing/raw material sourcing has moved. Its very obvious when it comes to their kettles and paper filters.

>>15426700
Yeah you're good. Unless its espresso-fine it'll work perfectly. Also don't follow the instructions, start with boiling water and then when the whole thing is assembled put it on the stove and let it do its thing.

9Barista has arrived. Niche Zero arrives tomorrow.

I only had 11 grams of coffee today.

>>15421386
Looks like a knock off v60/chemex

>>15429225
Melitta is the original pour-over. Everything else is knockoff.

>>15429423
original paper coffee filter too, I think

>>15429055
Hell yeah. Post more pics to trigger the mokapotbomb retord.

>>15421446
Bingo. Salt or butter.

>>15429962
I've actually been meaning to infuse some good butter(or ghee) with some good pot for the occasional morning pickmeup. Medicated bulletproof coffee basically. I think they use mct oil though.

>>15429055
Wow. This seems like a BITCH to clean

>>15429872
I am sure he means well.
>>15430196
It separates into three parts - just run each one under a tap.

>>15430254
Looking it up it also seems expensive as fuck. Why get it and nicest Flair model?

>>15430333
Why get it instead of the nicest flair, I mean

>>15430340
This is easier to use at 6am. No preheating and what have you.

>>15430402
Cool. Both you and leverfags are mogging the shit out of my new Brikka. It barely makes any crema and it comes out really dark. Maybe it burns the coffee. Feels disappointing.

>>15430333
Very different machines and its dope as fuck. I've got a flair+sep+lunar setup and I want one lol.

Last 6g of the ruby + 10g of the yellow bourbon.

My Dad got me a Moccamaster as a gift. I love it - easy to use and makes extremely consistent coffee.

>>15428125
Wow. Nicely made though?

>>15421375
Prefer Java's desu but the ambience is nice. Got a gift certificate i need to use

>>15431848
oh should probably attach a pic oops

>>15426700
I used to like the lavazza pregrounds with a moka back when this wasn't a hobby for me

>>15430787
Nice, anon. Do you have a grinder?

>>15429055
Post results later
How do you dial it in, or do you even need to?
Everything except ground size is fixed right?

>>15429055
>Niche Zero
I'm not jelly. You're jelly.

>>15428331

Thanks! This site looks legit.
Lots of little roasters from all over, its a shame about the price. Living in Portland I'm kinda spoiled desu

>>15421291
I feel the same way, every now and then I'll treat myself and get some local stuff, but usually I just stick to buying a 2lb bag of Lavazza beans off of Amazon. It tastes decent and it's cheap.

>>15430500
I started off with a moka pot. I couldn't get it to be consistent. If you look on Youtube/Twitter, once you get the beans at the correct ground, despite its lack of variables, it is apparently quite consistent thereafter.
>>15432806
It will have to be tomorrow at the earliest, as that's when the beans should arrive (rona may delay them by a day or 2). All I have to dial in is the grind, so the first few shots probably won't taste great. I'll have to have a play with the correct gas heat too.
>>15432815
I wanted to spend less on a grinder, but the relative lack of purging and easy clean-up swayed it for me. If any of the Eureka grinders had only one bolt to undo to access the burrs, I would have bought one of those instead.

>>15433466
Cool. I was saving for one but caved and bought a Sette 270. It's great but I still kinda lust after the Niche lol

>>15433470
I considered that, but it sounds really loud apparently. The plastic gearbox put me off. Plus I'm not a burger, so repairs and replacement parts would be hard to come by.

>>15426868
>>15426999
>retarded frog poster
0 is when you you can no longer turn it click by click easily. Cmon dude.

>>15429055
Tell us how it goes. Been thinking of getting one myself, but I have not so pleasant memories from moka pot (I know its not a moka pot). Flairs look like a bitch to deal with.

>>15430254
>just run each one under a tap.
Yeah that's not cleaning dumbfuck kek.

>>15421252
do we still like dalgonas??

>>15433493
Will do lad.
>>15433495
Obviously I'm going to use a non-abrasive cleaning product as well. Didn't think I'd have to spell it out, but here we are.

>>15433489
Yeah I'm not a burger either but so far, so good, we'll see how it is after a year. It's not quiet but it's not like... offensively loud and I currently live alone so that aspect of it doesn't bother me too much. Consistency is pretty decent, plus there's fairly few grinders that will get me espresso and filter on the same machine.

>>15433508
The Niche was 'only' ~£150/€170 more than the 270, so I thought I'd go for it. Glad it works well for you.

>>15433521
True shit? Yeah the gap was much bigger down here... $450AUD vs $1300AUD

>>15433523
Wew lad. EU buyers now have to pay VAT 'twice' for the Niche, but as I'm in the UK, I don't.

>>15433529
Yeah we're used to be fucked over down here in Australia, but that one hurt a bit lol.

>>15433537
Hopefully a bigger manufacturer creates a Niche-like grinder soon.

>>15426572
I can 2nd this, I've always used brown filters, I accidently ordered white filters laste week, and my coffee literally tasted like printer paper it was gross

then, going back to my brown filters I think there's still actually a slight a paper taste I didn't notice before, I'm going to try a metal filter and see if I'm right

>>15433614
>>15426572
that's the opposite of everything I've read before.
Everyone says brown filters will transfer some papery taste, while bleached ones are supposed to be more neutral.
I only ever used bleach ones, but recently got some brown ones for free included with a new V60, so I'll try them out.

I have brown filters as my "oh fuck I ran out and forgot to buy more" backup filters and unless I rinse the fuck out of them they have a very noticeable papery taste, whereas I never used to bother to rinse bleached paper filters for a long time because I could never taste the difference.

What are some good French presses in regards to sturdiness? It really doesn't need to hold more than 16oz.

>>15433750
The Espro ones are pricey but pretty unbreakable

Just shimmed my Sette 270. Took literally two minutes and I'm a retard with fixing/fitting stuff. That was pleasantly surprising.

>>15433629
>>15433630
I use both, didn't notice any papery taste, might do a side by side test to compare the two. I always rinse it with boiling water before use.

9Barista has arrived. Niche Zero arrives tomorrow.

>>15434312
wtf, i didn't type anything in the comment box. anyway, that should obviously read to say that the niche has arrived.

guys I fucked up and put my Bellman on the heat while empty. I realised before it fucking exploded but now the bottom seal is completely destroyed. I've tried looking for online replacement seal sets but none of them include the bottom seal.
What the fuck do I do?

I used to buy a bunch of locally roasted beans and grind them and Aeropress them. Did that for a few years. But honestly I'd rather just chug down 30oz a day of some preground community coffee.

>>15434472
Ah shit. What sort of seal is it? Can you go to a local rubber place, someone that sells o rings, seals, gaskets for industrial stuff?

>>15434510
Maybe if lockdown wasn't here eh..
I ordered an eBay seal set that is meant to replace everything except that final bottom seal so I could just trial and error them, but since the entire unit is just a glorified pressure bomb i'd prefer to find a genuine purpose made replacement

>>15434526
Perhaps email them? Good luck bro, that's a real shame.

>>15434472
Out of stock but isn't this what you're looking for?

https://prima-coffee.com/parts/bellman/a-36

Wait for prima to restock or just email bellman. Now that you've proven yourself to be a tard, buy 3. You'll ruin another guaranteed.

>>15434553
seems like the only option, cheers anon

>>15432791
Yah, a decently fancy Baratza Encore I think. Bro got it for me as a gift too lol.

Such a sick set up. Maybe not as nuanced as some other Anon's but I love it

good morning anons just did the M2 burr upgrade on my baratza encore, highly recommended despite some hiccups with parts and waiting for replacements from baratza shipping

>>15434472
Make your own. Buy a blank sheet of silicone gasket material. Guesstimate the correct thickness by looking at photos of the replacement gasket online. Find and trace a washer close to the correct size and cut the new one out with an x-acto knife.

>>15434893
>>15434632
I really like it

>>15434472
>the retard does something retarded
why am I not surprised

what's this thing?

>>15421386
the ones with the dropout bottoms are the highest level of coffee autism, where they not only weigh out the grounds, but the water as well
if you don't go that route, it allows the grounds to steep a bit before you drain it into the carafe

>>15435367
It's a gimmicky disposable pour over filter for people who are too dumb to figure out you can use any funnel-shaped object to hold a paper coffee filter.

>>15421928
>things I don’t like!

So I have a decent De'Longhi espresso maker, and I am looking for an automatic grinder with a portafilter holder to upgrade from my hand grinder. Any suggestions?

>>15435389
It's supposed to be for travel use.

>>15435367
Drip bag. I bought a bunch off kurasu.kyoto when I got my origami. They were delicious.

>>15435389
You're a bozo.

>>15436070
I must be the king of clowns to you, consoomer.

>>15436319
I bet you think clif bars are for snacking on the couch too.

>>15436412
I'm sorry.
I'm starting to feel bad for you. Just buy your stuff and try to be happy.

>>15436070
do you insert your own coffee or does it come with it?
seems useful for travel

>>15421252
based Monk's. i love cafes that are also bars. this one has the best selection of beer in my mid-sized Midwestern river town. usually get a coldbrew to do my homework

>>15436479
The ones I bought were 12g of high end beans, backflushed with a puff of nitrogen so the beans aren't exposed to oxygen. Little expensive but I bought a bunch because I wasn't planning on roasting coffee outside in a blizzard. I could see them being a staple for camping/travel/work. There were about 15 more bags on there so they're probably about to put some new 2021 shit up. I ignore their emails :/ Shipping is expensive so make an order worth your while.

https://kurasu.kyoto/collections/drip-bags

>Can I get a large blended caramelicious?!?!?!?

>>15435492
Breville Smart Grinder is a pretty good low-mid range option that'll do espresso through to filter. Not amazing but genuinely usable.

>>15434632
Yeah anon with good beans and getting them dialled properly there's a lot to be said for a good drip machine. I have a Breville Precision Brewer that I bought to use occasionally for early morning starts so that I'd wake up to coffee ready to drink and could use my espresso machine on other days with more time... for the first six months I didn't make an espresso.

>>15431894
What’s your favourite restaurant in Rupert? I like pho88.

>>15436960
It's gotta be Bamboo Shoot for me. Best broth in town imo.
Don't eat out a whole lot, wonder if Stardust is as good as I remember

>>15433750
get a Frielding! you can get them second hand on ebay for like $50

>>15423754
>proper barista training
holy shit

>>15437117
Haven’t been to bamboo shoot yet. I heard Jessica’s was good but it burnt down like everything else in town.

>>15437315
not that guy but what is your problem?
Are you one of those people who have such a low IQ they think you're a "hipster" if you knew how to brew coffee properly?

Most baristas have no idea what they're doing. I should know since I train baristas and am also a Roaster. Most people have no idea wtf they're doing even at so called "prestigious" coffee shops.

>>15435423
ok manchildren

>Oooh! I love coffee and caffeine! Coffee is my passion and fuel lol!
>Can I get a large caramelicious frappucino? No espresso please.

>>15435423

>>15436519
don't tell me you drink faggo IPAs

Haven't had a chance to go in a long time since I moved away, but this was my stomping grounds in my early 20s. Miss this place so much.

What's /ck/'s preferred input and output on an espresso shot?

>>15435159
nice setup with the moccamaster and the encore, anon, i currently brew my coffee out of a v60 but i heard the moccamaster produces great brews if you want to take the extraction work out of the picture, would be nice while i make breakfast in the mornings

btw m2 burr upgrade worth it if you get bored and don't mind dropping $30-50 and a bit of effort to install a new burr set

>go to the local coffee shop with the big neon sign that says "SPECIALTY COFFEE"
>order Americano
>tasting notes (my own): burnt tire, rubber, smoky

>>15437373
If you have to preface your profession with "properly trained" then you already know it's a low-skill job that any monkey can do. but you already know that since you train monkeys. how long were you in coffee college to earn your roaster's doctorate by the way? it must have taken many grueling years to learn how long to heat a bean and at what temperature

Do you reuse grounds after brewing one time or do you throw them away after each brewing.

>>15439342
I throw them the fuck away.

>>15439344
Isn't it a bit of a waste though? I always brew the same grounds a second time. Organic grounds are more expensive than a good steak

>>15439382
How are you brewing them? There's only a finite amount of soluble material in a coffee bean, and consequently in the little tiny pieces of ground coffee- most of that has gone the first time you've brewed and a lot of what's left won't give up pleasant flavors

>>15439342
Reminds me of the chinese restaurant I worked for, that would take the cold, half-full bin of fried rice from the night before and cook it into the day's first batch of fried rice

>>15439387
I make the in a Bialetti brikka. Second brew still tastes coffee-ish

>>15439412
If you enjoy it then good luck to you. Not for me though.

>>15439412
I wanted to take a picture now because I was drinking the second one, but it looked like Jenkem. I guess it is gross to reuse grounds.

>>15439419
Yeah I respect that.
I know I'm a cheap fuck. I also suck out the remains out of a teabag when it's done steeping.
I'll try to remember not to serve sloppy seconds if I ever have guests in the future.

>>15439427
No judgement here, anon - I'm all for people enjoying coffee or cooking how they like to enjoy it.

>>15421397
You know you can make less, right?

>>15426838
That one sure is. At least for an hour or two.

>>15439442
That's how you get aids

>>15438355
>hurr durr being a baker is low skill because it's just how long to heat dough at what temp
You need to be at least 18 to post here

First shot was bitter, so there's work to do on my end with the grind, and maybe heat too. Guy on Youtube says he has a Flair Pro 2 and says the 9Barista is much easier to get good shots compared to the Flair fwiw.

In the spirit of my neighborhood cafe edition, rocking the jameson brown mug. finally decided to try those aeropress recipes and my god, they’re actually perfect. i’m not sure i can withstand using 30g of grounds per fucking cup though

>>15440118
>FLIPPED PHOTO
god fucking dammit

>>15440118
nice anon, what recipe did you use?
in my experience the filip kucharczyk (2016 i think) champion recipe produced some VERY sexy results with a wine-like el salvador.

that said, you're right about the dosage problem with many of these recipes, which is why i only use aeropress every once in a while. 36g to 1 cup will have you tweakin and not to mention uneconomic

>>15440205
No specific recipe; they're all more or less the same. Inverted method ofc w/ 30g of beans, 100g of water to start. 30 seconds of stirring, plunge, add water to desired taste. I don't mind the caffeine rush as much as the price. Where the FUCK can I buy beans in bulk in the states? Every place I go to charges like $18 for a 12oz bag

well my body is officially addicted to caffeine. I went 24h without coffee and got a massive migraine, which went away after I had a shot of espresso

>>15435423
go play nintendo before you start crying, manbaby

>>15440230
for specialty coffee $18/lb seems close to what i expect, but things vary depending on what you're getting (e.g. single origins below this price are uncommon but blends easy to find). here are some good options with slightly lower prices that ive tried, but im not sure what exactly you're going for

- tiny house coffee roasters
- texas coffee traders (they don't ship to california)
- shotgun house roasters

>>15439342
I dry them out and use them in the garden.

>>15440412
>- texas coffee traders (they don't ship to california)
based as fuck of them

>>15439394
That’s actually normal, fried rice is always leftovers.

>>15440412
>tiny house coffee roasters
This is exactly what i needed. thanks anon. What’s with texans hating us so much?

>>15440060
Crema looks awesome

>>15440711
thanks. i'm sure it can look thicker once i've got the hang of extraction.

>>15440667
for specialty blends black & white roasters bags 14$/ pound for 2lb bags or 15usd/12oz

>>15421252
Cafe Safari up north, housed in 100 year old building sparsely renovated but much atmosphere inside :D

>>15440667
nothing personal, on their site they cite a risky regulatory environment as their reason not to ship to CA

as for the state in general, just old-fashioned sociopolitical scorn from conservative texans and/or a distaste of californian transplants moving to texas

>get Ethiopia Aricha coffee
>weirdly bitter and sharp with weak fruity notes
>no off taste though
Do I need to let this bag de-gas longer? It's been two weeks since roast, but I've been keeping it a cold room.

>>15423754
Hearing about other people having a GF makes me sad

>>15426572
Put the filter in the cone thing and pour some hot water through, to moisten it, then pour that water out before adding your grounds to the filter. It washes out the paper taste.

My dad owns a Delonghi Magnifica super automatic espresso machine and the coffee tastes like total ass. He never tweaks the settings, he just adds sugar. Is it possible to make good espresso with a superautomatic? I don't know what recipe to follow because it's 15 bar.

Just finished roasting a half lb of some monteblanco purple caturra.

>>15440060
Looks good, keep us updated!

>>15439342
I chuck them in a compost bin for my garden.

Well, according to the UPS tracking the refurb Sette 270 I ordered should be coming in tomorrow. Hopefully this will make a decent improvement on my shot quality and workflow for pulling shots. Pretty good timing too, I actually managed to pull something that wasn't unpalatable without dilution this morning. And now I won't have to readjust and clean my grinder everytime I want to switch between espresso and drip.

>>15443245
Nice anon. I like mine.

>>15429872
Had to roast outside in the freezing cold today, but it's actually good for me since my popcorn popper gets to hot so my roasts are much better. Not sure what I will do after winter.

>>15423754
Youre not supposed to cum on top of the coffee anon, I don't care if she is your gf

>>15443514
Did not mean to reply to a post

I just got an old Delonghi EC 155 for free. I finally have my own espresso and I'm quite happy about it. It's pressurized so it's quite easy to use. The problem is anything that comes out of it tastes like shit. My fruity beans came out sour as fuck and I can't really enjoy that.
Also the stock steam wand is bollocks and I can only get the foamiest milk. My latte art dreams are starting to fade.
I feel like I'll be tempted to buy a nicer machine one day.
>pic rel my latest attempts

>>15443714
Similar story here anon, am a fellow ec155 owner. I've done a lot to try and get a better shot out of the thing but I haven't had much luck either. I posted a little earlier about getting a new grinder, the 270, so I'll see if a better grind improves things. Generally what I've found to be more effective is to let it warm up for at least a half hour, or to continuously pull blank shots to get it to come up to proper temp. And yeah, no advice for the milk wand, I get pretty inconsistent results in quality and texture with it. I've seen a common solution for it is to replace it with a silvia wand but that seems more effort than it's worth. Lately I've been feeling the urge to upgrade as well, I'm thinking a gaggia classic, seems pretty good for the price.

>>15443767
yeah i see the silvia wand being recommended but it makes no sense to spend 50 dollars (where i live) to buy a new wand for a cheap old machine. i use a good grinder (comandante) and it really doesn't help much. i guess the flow is alright. i found that swirling the milk jug after steaming helps a lot. but results are inconsistent and today i couldn't even draw anything kek.
i might look into a flair eventually actually.

>>15421252
Bong here, I've drank instant coffee all my life as is the custom here unless you're going to an actual coffee shop. Is proper coffee that much better and if so, how should I get started? French press, pods etc. there seems to be a lot of different options.

>>15444263
Your fellow bong James Hoffmann is currently considered to be the most authoritative coffee person. Use his recipes.
V60 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI4ynXzkSQo
French press - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st571DYYTR8
Clever - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpOdennxP24

Buy coffee beans and brewing equipment from his company - https://shop.squaremilecoffee.com/

I've had coffee from Square Mile before, and they're exceptionally good, probably some of the best in the world. I couldn't keep buying them because of the high international shipping fees, but you get free shipping.

>>15444299
Yeah I'd echo that - I've had their beans shipped to Australia a few times and they've been uniformly excellent, the packaging is well thought out too, and I like how their default size is 350g to allow a bit of extra to dial in. But it's not super sustainable to pay shipping when I can get very enjoyable coffee domestically. If I lived in Europe though, it'd be my roaster of choice.

>>15444423
>australia
check out proud mary, they're based in both melbourne and portland in the US, i've enjoyed their product here in the states

>>15444428
I'll give them a look, cheers.

>>15437328
Duuuuude. It was the best LMAO, would have said it was my favorite if it hadn't burnt down. Absolutely loaded their plates, good ass food

Bamboo Shoot is closed too cuz of the fire? I think. Hope they reopen one day, pretty sure they were already in gear to shut down, main cook is a super old dude who put maximum effort into his broth. Sooooo freakin good man, sad to see them struggle

>>15439938
Well making a coffee isn't exactly a high intensity or high skill job.

>>15440481
It's usually leftover WHITE RICE though. Not sure about re-cooking fried rice; would it get hard like rice krispies?

>>15444726
Have you ever worked in a kitchen during a rush? Excellence + repetition is no mean feat

the next level of cafes is your barista making your coffee in front of you, telling you every detail about your coffee coffee from farm level, to roast, to explaining their brew methodology, to notes in the cup

i call it 4th wave coffee

>>15445450
Yeah as a dishwasher at a restaurant back when i was in senior in highschool which was 11 years ago. Obviously the chef has a more stressful job. I wouldn't be comparing a chef who has been through cooking schools to a barista though lmao. I work in chemistry position now in which one fuck up can cost thousands of dollars easily at best. Sometimes working 16 to 20 hr days plus weekends when your slammed with work that you can't fuck up.

Flairbros, how do you get your shots to not channel? It feels like 50% of my shots have minor to moderate amounts of channeling, despite giving it a little stir with a paper clip.

>>15445481
Lol ok folgers mode, now step back and witness a true revolution...

>you make the coffee yourself
i call it fifth wave coffee

Are these Dedica machines worth a shit? Now is the time for me to buy one, people doing Christmas returns on Amazon is like a 30% off sale. I know it's not going to be professional grade, but will it make me something drinkable?

How do I upgrade from the flair without spending my monthly wage on a machine? La Pavoni have shitty heat management issues and suffers from the same flair problems of having too small brew head, but everything else with self heating, temp reg, a decent milk steamer and pressure control will cost me too much. I dont wanna go the cheap semi automatic route after experiencing the control of a lever machine but I dont wanna spend 4 grand on a coffee machine either. Wheres the middle ground for leverfags?

>>15445670
Get a better grinder. I have a commondante and I tamp decently and Ive bever experienced chanelling. Your grinds are too irregular and non uniform

>>15423420
You can use it as fertilizer for your plants

>>15445959
That's what I have right now. It makes espresso lightyears better than Starbucks or any shit coffeehouse I've been to. Mine had problems with calcification for the first few months, to where I had to decalcify it every month. Its been great since. I'd recommend it for the price. anything cheaper will come with a water boiler instead of a thermalblock, so this makes a pretty good espresso shot quickly for a good price.

>>15446116
Oh, additionally I use the doubleshot filter but run it as a single shot when I use regular roast coffee. Makes for a much better shot.

How often do you descale your coffee machines?

>>15421332
>this thing costs over $2000
Fuck's sake dude really

Anyone use lever machine?

Anyone want to talk about osmotic flow?

>>15433829
Do you usually single dose your Sette or leave some extra in the hopper? I'm trying to figure out which way gets me more uniform grinds.

>>15446217
For as dumb of a functional design la pavoni dreamed up, you just can't argue with the look. They're gorgeous.

How much coffee is too much to drink in a day?

I read it's fine to drink 3-4 cups a day, but sizes confuse me, as I don't know if they talk about those tiny ass cups I've only seen in hipster coffee shops, or the average mug everyone has at home.

For the record, I have a medium sized coffee in the morning and a large one after my main meal.

>>15445803
Based, but only if they make you pay extra for it.

>>15446834
one cup is one cup. a standard mug is ~two cups

>>15446834
I limit myself to 500 ml of coffee and 2 shots of espresso per day, and no coffee after 5 PM. Anything more and it severely fucks with my sleep schedule.

>>15446853
>>15446867
Alright, that's what I thought. The last few days I was starting to drink more than that and got self conscious about it.

Went to a local cafe for the first time today. Was pretty good, definitely better than starbucks. Pretty strong but none of that burnt bitter flavor you normally get. Latte art was pretty to look at as well. Also gives me a perspective on how my lattes should turn out flavor and texture wise.

>>15443245
It's here

>>15447100
Update: holy fuck is it loud but man is it quick.

>>15447196
Hopefully yours doesn't start deciding it wants to start randomly grinding in the middle of the night like mine did. Baratza's support is great, though.

>>15447214
do you not unplug it when not in use, or is it an internet of things type device

>>15447312
I'm not autistic enough to unplug my grinder when it's not in use. It's not a connected device.

>>15447338
>I'm not autistic enough to unplug my grinder when it's not in use
Dp people really just leave appliances like that plugged in all the time? I have a normal coffee maker and a toaster, and thats all I leave plugged in all day. Better question is, do you use it all day or just in the morning? because if its all day, that I can justify. But I only use my grinder in the morning, so when i make my coffee I unplug it

>>15447354
I never unplug anything in my kitchen unless whatever it's connected to doesn't have an off switch, or if I need the outlet for something else.

>>15447214
That does sound a tad unpleasant. Hopefully nothing bad happens so soon after I get it.

Coming from using an encore that takes a half minute or more to grind for one shot and is a pain in the ass to switch from pour over to espresso, I'm ecstatic to have two grinders now. And this thing can grind a double in about five and a half seconds.

Although I did notice the shot that came out wasn't all that great. Grind setting 9E coming out in ~20 seconds yielding 60 g out, 16 g in, and it came out bitter. Though, I'm willing to chalk it up to the beans, whatever method I do it comes out kinda burnt and bitter.

Still, one step further to getting a better shot.

>>15447366
Seeing as you're running a 3.75:1 ratio, I'd expect it to be bitter too.

>>15447366
Grind finer and shoot for just over a 2:1 in ~30.

>>15446380
I always single dose.

>>15447366
A new set of burrs will kind of "wear in" after a kg of coffee or so, so don't necessarily judge taste immediately.

>>15446268
Why wouldn't it cause channeling if the grounds aren't agitated? Plus the temperature will be lower if you pour too slow. It sounds like 4:6 tier jap mysticism.

I think all these try hard pour over methods don't do shit. Followed the ultimate method by that british fuck. Coffee was bitter as fuck. Try the 4:6 method, and its bitter as fuck. Do it my lazy way of no infusion, no multiple pours, no swirling, just pour evenly till you hit your target weight and its much better. Anyone else feel or think this to?

>>15450408
Kinda sorta. While I do think that these guys who make "recipes" are huge fart-sniffers, the idea of what they are trying to do makes sense. The reality is that everyone has different beans, different grinders, and most importantly different tastes. Anybody who is not an idiotic fart smeller can just intuitively make a good cup of coffee for himself in three tries or less without help.

Sooner or later these rules will codify into a "perfect" "method" and somebody will reinvent an automatic drip machine and be touted as a fucking genius in the fart-sniffing coffee world. Then the cycle will repeat.

>>15446079
how many clicks do you use for your flair?

>>15445959
30% off from the already affordable price is great anon. it's alright but you might have to upgrade the port and steam wand.

>>15450408
>Coffee was bitter as fuck. Try the 4:6 method, and its bitter as fuck.
The idea is that you adjust the grind to suit the method - if it's bitter as fuck, coarsen up the grind and try it. Or alternatively, if you enjoy what you're already drinking, stick to it.

>>15435367
Theyre just bags with coffee that are ready to drink and function as a pour-over where you just weigh the water. April coffee from Copenhagen makes some really good ones.

>>15446938
>Went to a local cafe for the first time today...definitely better than starbucks
Water is wet, anon.

>>15450408
try 18g-20g. about 93 degrees celcius. 50ml bloom for 45 seconds then 1 continuous slow pour directly in the center reaching 300ml. total time should be 2-3 minutes. this is the newly hot "osmotic" flow method. i've only gotten sweet tasting vibrant cups so far. not bitter at all

>>15446069
Just get a la povoni and weld a block of metal with a heating element around the group head to increase the thermal mass
t. engineer

>>15446834
by large do you mean grande or venti?

>>15421785
shout out to the coffee shop with an "immigrants welcome" sign that sells 12$ lattes

>>15447366
Continuing to get dialed in, loving the fact that the grinder doesn't try and die if I grind one notch finer. Shots are getting a little better, pulled one a little fast this morning, fined it up, and then pulled one 17 in about 38 out in 25 seconds. Way more palatable than what I usually pull, got a little sweetness with it, still pretty bitter with lingering bitter aftertaste. Probably have to grind a little finer and cut it short I'm guessing is my next step. Also maybe changing out beans for something lighter, every cup regardless of method comes out with that roasty bitterness. Using Kicking Horse Cliffhanger Espresso right now.

Also, put that shot into a latte and after I finished that I went and poured myself a cup of drip that my mom had made earlier, literally tastes like water lmao.

>>15451300
Checked. Seems like a pretty simple method with good results, will have to test that out. Why such a retarded name for a simple method like that? Just stupid hipster barista naming conventions?

>>15448999
you grind quite coarse, so the water has very little resistance and can easily move between the grounds I think, with no cause to create channels.
Yeah temp will get lower over the few minutes you are pouring, but I don't think that's a huge issue.
I get incredibly good results from it.

>>15446834
currently doing 3 14g aeropress cups per day and 1-2 17g espressos

Do any anons ever get a weird taste in their mouth while brewing coffee, before you even put anything in your mouth?

>>15451300
hey its the guy you replied to earlier. Just tried it this morning and it was still a little bitter, not as bad as the other two though. I'll try adjusting the size of the grind and see what happens.

who /chemex/ here

>medium roast
>grind
>water at 205
> ~15/1 water ratio

now you may speak

>>15451300
i'll try this
honestly sick of the hoffmann meme brew method.
not very good for expressing brighter notes and florals

>>15427022
>red bay coffee
you live in oakland, anon?

>>15421252
Is Blue Mountain a meme?

>>15452425
Yeah. I mean, it's good coffee, but any type of island coffee that costs roughly $40/lb or more is a no-go for me. Might as well try some once if you can get it. I guarantee you'll think: well, that was good, but not forty fucking dollars a pound good.

>>15450667
Not that anon, but I grind somewhere around a 7 on the Sette for medium to medium-light roasts on the Flair Pro.

>>15446164
when it stops working
never clean my grinder either

Im getting so tired of making coffee for other people. Guys, if you make good coffee, do yourself a favour and keep it a secret or else youll turn into the Family or Room mate barista because normies dont realise how shit coffee is from most places until they take a sip of your cup.

>>15450667
For my 4 week old Sidamo+Peaberry, probably around 16 clicks at around 15.6gms a dose

>>15451882
>Just stupid hipster barista naming conventions?
physics term: "diffusion of a fluid"

>>15452240
>15:1 ratio
My nigga. I use that for both chemex and v60. If I'm dealing with a darker roast I may reduce it but I tend to avoid anything below medium.
>>15450408
With the 4:6 method, make sure you're using the correct grind size and temperature for your beans. Grind size should be semi coarse. A good starting point is just enough to cover the numbers on the date of a penny. Secondly, if you're using a medium or medium / dark roast, lower your temp to around 200-202° F. Lighter roasts around 205-208°. Honestly, the 4:6 method gives me very predictable results once you dial in grind and temp.

>>15452024
On second thought I did read lower temperature can be accounted for by longer brewing.
https://sca.coffee/sca-news/read/just-published-brewing-temperature-and-the-sensory-profile-of-brewed-coffee
Maybe I'll try it tomorrow. As long as it doesn't channel there's no reason it shouldn't work.

>>15450408
do what works for you but remember that extraction is only one part of what goes into a brew. grind settings and temp control to a lesser extent are important too. i'd say give those methods a try while experimenting with different grind settings if you get bored

>>15453862
for me personally i enjoy making it for others, i see it as a big flex since most people aren't on our level

>>15421252
lmao I never expected to see my hometown on /ck/, if there's any Montrealers here as of now which local coffee place should I check out? I visit cafe olimpico whenever I go to old port, should I check out pic related? I don't want to give my money to those greedy jews from Tim Hortons and Starbucks

>>15423754
You took that pic? Very pleasing even /p/ would be impressed

>>15426838
That's a man isn't it?

>>15455842
No they wouldn't. They would say he missed focus on the cup, criticize him for not shooting at f/0.95 (because if 90% of the image isn't blurry, it's trash), then there would be 200 posts arguing about Sony vs Fuji with images of camera gear spec sheets and soyjacks.

>>15455996
I miss /p/ when it was poorfags arguing that a K-x was Just As Good as a 5D Mk II.

>>15456004
Oh and when Yall was fucking his sister.

Would the Baratza Encore be good enough for a V60 or a French press?

>>15456312
Yes.

>>15446217
>>15446938
Lever is when there's no power. I have ROK Machine Espresso & hand grinder for camping trips & picnics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A5ufj_ykUc

Why do some decent manual grinders cost more than a decent electric grinder?
Manual grinder are a fucking bitch. It's like a needless shakeweight workout every time you want coffee.

Another one, are grinders with metal burrs even worth it? You can't wash them like you can ceramic ones. It's both more expensive and more of a hassle

>>15456808
Define a decent manual and electric grinder. I like my c40 because its not hard grind some coffee beans, it's quieter, and gives me something to do while my water is heating up on the stove. Also it will work regardless if for some reason there's no power.

>>15456617
How do you know youre hitting 6-9 bars without a pressure gauge?

>>15456866
I don't know much about electric grinders but I think you can get a functional one for the same price as the Aergrind.
I get the ritual and the portability thing, and maybe I'm just upset about my 70$ one. It's a real 2 minute chore of constant grinding.
The c40 looks nice. I know that one is top-tier. Seems like you can only clean it with a brush. That's kind of a pain.

>>15456944
>2 minutes
It doesn't take THAT long unless you are grinding alot of beans on a fine setting.

>>15457008
I grind about 20 grams every time. It certainly feels like 2 mins

>>15457016
That's unfortunate, I thought it had large metal burrs. I spent big bucks on a JX Pro and it grinds so much faster than my old cheap Hario model. 12 grams in 20 seconds when I timed it. It saves me 4 1/2 hours per year. I'm really happy with it even if I could have bought a Baratza encore for the same price.

>>15456808
I think it's about consumer choice. If you like to go innawoods or traveling a lot, it's very useful.
Hand grinders also appeal to those who want really high quality but at a cheaper price point and don't mind the extra work.
As far as I know, we're talking $150-300 hand grinders that compete with their $400+ electric counterparts.
Espresso-wise, you got a hand grinder that beats out a Sette or a Smart Grinder in quality and can do filter coffee as well.

As to the metal burrs thing, I can't speak about premium hand grinders.
That said, I went from a cheap hand grinder with ceramic burrs to metal ones in my Encore. Massive jump in quality.
Cleaning with a brush is pretty easy, they make it so you just remove the hopper, take out the burr and dust it off a little.
Takes a minute max, not a lot more work than running water through ceramic burrs.
If you want a deeper clean, then it gets a little inconvenient, but that's only a once a month thing.

>>15457195
Pretty damn informative, thanks anon.

>went to loves
>get my coffee and hotdogs
>go to cream and sugar it up and they had 60mg caffeine espresso shots for free so I dropped like 6 of the fuckers in with my other mix of creams
>drink down coffee real quick
>literally almost had a heart attack

>>15457353
you are fucking stupid but now you have a funny and relatable story to tell

>>15446834
You coffee consumption should be considered in grams of arabica coffee beans, not cups as a pour over cup and an espresso cup will have very different levels of caffeine. Of course the calculation will be harder if your beans are not just arabica but also robusta.

best coffee ive ever had

>>15457860
i gotta try washed kenyans sometimes, heard those have been getting a buzz

>>15421252
Experimenting with a new concoction. Coffee with sugared sour cherries(taste like pie filling) and coco powder, with whipped heavy cream with honey and rose water added. Not bad, but I think I need to use canned binge maraschino cherries for more flavor and sugar. Fucking love whipped cream. I can make faux macchiato this way.
>>15446834
Tbh it really depends if your noticing I'll effects like anxiety, upset stomach or caffeine withdrawal symptoms. I'd stick to around 8-12oz for a cup. Also what this anon said >>15457469
>>15457860
Sounds sweet and tangy.

>>15457860
Nice, anon, I got to check it out. This is my personal favorite, unfortunately it was only a limited batch from Arcade but I'll probably seek out another natural Yunnan from some other roaster when I run out of my current bag.

How are you doing on this Sunday fellas? Made myself a couple of little cortados/macchiatos, whatever it technically is. Very nice, milk cuts through some of the unpleasantness but the strength of the espresso isn't diluted as much, I quite like it. Anyways hope y'all have a good day and some good coffee.

>>15421332
There's a switch and a cord coming out of that device ...

>>15457982
>adding all that shit to coffee
All you need is some whole milk.

black as midnight on a moonless night.
>>15459048
I used to work for a bakery/cafe and cortados would get me through those 5am shifts. I can't really handle lactose as much these days.

>>15457016
takes about 40 seconds and im just calmly grinding and not crankin' it like how i crank my meat.

>>15459145
I should mention its basic bitch cheap aldi coffee. I wouldn't do that to good coffee.

moving in with my gf next month so I treated myself to a covefe set
japanese made titanium memes but fuck it
>inb4 akshully you can use that stuff minus the dripper with any hot drink

>>15460032
Am confused. That kettle and dripper are both stainless?

>Designed and manufactured in Japan, the Classic Kettle 1.8 is made of polished stainless steel.

>Made of enduring stainless steel, the Collapsible Coffee Drip was inspired by traditional pour over coffee set-ups.

What all did you buy?

>>15456617
It's a lever machine. It uses electricity to heat up the water and generate enough pressure to steam milk, but 6-9 bars of pressure is generated by the user and a lever.

>>15460089
only the mug is titanium soz
thought the kettle was as well
I wanted to buy the le creuset meme but it's made in china so I went with the cooler asians instead

look how aesthetic this shit is

>>15421252
Today I had my coffee with a segment each from a Terry's Chocolate Orange original and dark chocolate flavour and a splash of chocolate milk

>>15460140
Its no Yasukiyo urushi.

>>15460640
too asiany

>>15421445
>throughout the day
What? I'd drink it in under half an hour

>>15460645
Yeah but look how fucking a e s t h e t i c it is. I would have ordered one over the origami but I didn't want to buy 01 filters :/