/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>15361641
it wont stick

>>15361644
Really? Interesting if true, but why can't they just make a normal tuna roll, cut it, and then sprinkle spice on top (like salt)?

>>15361641

How about you make your own?

>>15361641
Baby vomit is easier to get a uniform shape when you roll it

So much fucking THIS. Half the rolls available at my work cafeteria are complete garbage because they minch the meat up into inedible slop. I have to wait until rainbow roll or shrimp tempura rolls are available.

Also when the wife and I go to sushi I can't enjoy her rolls with her because she actually likes that bullshit

>>15361641
Because they use the part of the tuna that is too tough to use otherwise. Grinding it up hides this and makes it tender.

>>15361641
Only shit-tier sushi places mince their tuna. It's just cheaper.

>>15361680
Yeah its the cheap shit, that’s why its spicy, to mask the flavor. Same reason a lot of poorer countries go so heavy with the spicy

If a sushi place does that it means its run by chinks, as are most sushi places in america

>americans put bread crumbs and cream cheese in their """""sushi"""""
lmfao i don't take anybody who eats sushit seriously. i've lived in japan for 3 years, literally nobody eats sushi but the white people. conveyor belt sushit is the fucking bottom of the barrel. sushi is so overrated and glamourized

>>15361668
>work cafeteria
Think I found your problem

>>15361784
wow so cultured

>>15361641
It's gross as fuck to me too and I lived with a Japanese family on and off for years growing up. We never had it like that at home but i never got used to the texture anyways.

>>15361784
why is japanese cuisine so hilariously bad?
the main staple dish of nipponland is sushi which is literally just fish on rice
their curry is just watered soup
ramen is just inferior version of authentic Chinese noodles
even instant noodles is taiwanese (Chinese) and not from japan

why could the nips not make a satisfactory cuisine?

>>15361784
Choo-Choo sushi with a few beers in you is maximum comfy, larp-san.

>>15361641
cause wipipo have no taste buds. seriously, most of the sushi in america isn't found in japan. american sushi is marketed towards you celery is spicy white peepo

>>15361767
Lol. Okay, buddy.

>>15361827
>he doesn't know about sushi in Africa

>>15361828
It's true

>>15361641
Fags on expense accounts like saying "I got some jap food dude" They forget history which is japs sneak attacking the USA and the torture that the japs were doing to other nations.

>>15361835
What would african sushi contain?

>>15361641
I've never seen tuna be ground to a paste like that. I've had it when it's basically chopped up, like minced but not a damn paste. Get real sushi OP.

>>15361840
sand

>>15361823
>not getting hamburg and burning the roof of your mouth
i'm not larping. i had some good times eating the tourist food at first. the best japanese food is actually not traditional japanese food but just white people food made by japanese people

>>15361849
Folded 50000 times with jap pretence?

>>15361849
I'm a huge weeb but after learning japanese I became disillusioned and realized that there are very few native japanese things in japan. Almost everything there is copied or adapted from china or america. The exceptions are udon, soba, okonomyaki, and shintoism

>>15361865
Copied and improved. Culture is literally just an improvement on what is inherited.

>>15361871
So who is the originator of each food? Monkeys? Retard

>>15361839
Okay. I mean, I got to fuck a hot Jap girl over and over for years while her family taught me origami and cooking. I dunno what you're tryna say here but I do believe Japan is okay and I've received many blessing on it lts behalf. That shit is in the past.

>>15361865
Merry Christmas Mr Lawrence.

It's called conbini

>>15361840
I was drunkenly searching Google Earth for fun a few years back and decided to search for cuisines that were in contrast to what might be available and or cultural misunderstandings. I still do it now. Try it.

>>15361891
Maybe the condolini express?

>>15361839
and then they got the front of the hand full force in Hiroshima and the backhand in Nagasaki. The United States then nursed them back to health with a steady diet of Mickey Mouse and Hamburgers while making sure that the money in their wallet was always worth something, and not just a fistful of monopolybux.

The war criminals of the 1940's are the corpses of today. Their sins are not hereditary. Some of their countrymen made some pretty alright food, and others realized that raw mackerel is pretty ok of its own merit.

>>15361898
>cultural misunderstandings.
Niggers are niggers, there's no misunderstandings there.

>>15361911
Seems as if you have a guilt trip going on, we didn't attack pearl they did, deal with reality.

>>15361641
since they are making it spicy there is no reason to use high quality fish, since you won't taste much of the fish anyways, so they use the scraps left over and ground up. depending on what part of the tuna the scraps are from it will either be used for stuff like spicy tuna rolls, or if it is belly scraps that actually taste good and are tender on their own it is served as negitoro

>>15361921
Spicy? Chile peppers are native to the Americas, the niggers in asia used them to cover up their rotten food. Deal with it.

pic ripped from tripadvisor but my favorite hamburg place in sapporo. go play some weeb games at the taito and walk here, its better than any weeb sushi ramen session. famimart and mcdonalds adjacent for drinks and ice scream. talk to taku at the DDR machine

>>15361641
Because japs are chump assholes and because they lost WW II think they need to project, they always fail, it that stupid gay faggot samurai shit.

>>15361946
You actually paid to go to japan? What a sad cuckold u are.

>>15361919
It's got nothing to do with me on either side. Their army dropped bombs on an as-yet-uninvolved American military target during their wartime expansion in the Pacific. The American army dropped bigger, dirtier bombs on inhabited Japanese cities, then dropped hamburgers, and got sushi in return. Everybody happy now.

>>15361969
Try English next time.

>>15361790
>for me, it's the aesthetics

>>15361974
I seem to have a better grip on it than you do. How's the help-desk job treating you?

>>15361668
>so much fucking this
You have to go back.

>>15361983
Its satire.

>>15361994
it needs an editor

>>15361994
It's been really hard to tell here lately.

>>15361641
Fun fact, sushi never looked like that till America made it popular.

Sushi in Japan was deemed as a low class poor workers meal, rice was used to just mask the oder of the fermented fish

>>15362013
None of this is true. It was a street food in its beginnings in Edo and thats it.

>>15362038
here is the TL;DR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N80rYgqb6wo

It was no where near as popular in Japan pre 1960, during the war fish and meat went to soldiers while leaving the common people guessing at shit. Spam is popular simply because americans gave it out and Japanese people couldn't fathom getting meat so freely and easily

>>15361840
glass

>>15361849
Hamburg was never my thing back then because they thought that since I was white, that they should show me only the most Japanese of things rather than what I might actually like. I never learned about yoshoku until i was like 27. And yeah, its best, but probably only because I'm not Japanese.

>>15361913
Every race has its trash, anon. Every language has a word for it. I hate a nigger just as much as I hate white trash.

sushi is a food for children

>>15362071
i had literally the opposite experience. when i showed up with a mcdouble and a coke they all got excited because they thought i cringed at western food and fetishized dumb shit like sushit. when they saw me show up to work with a fucking mcdonalds bag they knew it was time to show me the good "western" places where you eat real meat and not fucking gas station tier sushi

>>15361641
Americans invented the spicy tuna roll
Also good spicy tuna isn't fucking blended to shit but chopped up by hand so it's more chunky
Next time eat at a good sushi place that isn't owned by chinese

>>15361648
you can custom order rolls you know
I used to work at a sushi restaurant and I used to order a secret roll called the crazy roll which was spicy tuna on the inside but normal tuna and shichimi (Japanese spicy seasoning) on top
was good

>>15361921
Yup, this anon is correct. We only made it from the not so tasty bits and mixed it with other shit. I think what everyone is asshurt about is the price point. Like, how can leftovers be sold at same or higher price? Thats what i think the issue is. My answer, from exp, is that if we can screw ignorant people into believing something is authentic, special or local, then we will do it. It was literally my job to fuck people out of their money using aslternative words for ingredients not so long ago.

>>15361980
>had to wait for Dragon roll
Did you forget that part before you decided to larp as another anon?

>>15362122
Jesus fucking kek. My experience was 20+ years ago, so things mutve changed in that time. Hope it was fun though.

>>15361668
>He trusts the work cafeteria sushi.

Your stomach is made of steel and you are a very brave man.

>>15361911
Nukes weren't even the worst bombings we did, just the fastest.

>>15361686
Originally, the parts of the body that could not be used for sashimi or sushi were minced and cooked.

Hard, stringy or too small parts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1ceTQEGAHY

Also, there are cheap products with added fat.
https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B06XVGCXTC/

I've never seen anything with chili peppers added to it in Japan.
It was probably invented in sushi restaurants run by Chinese or Koreans.

>>15361641
>Explain to me why japs think making a tuna roll spicy needs to involve grinding the meat into baby vomit
that's probably an american invention, like adding cream cheese to sushi

>>15361641
>japs
>spicy tuna
that's white people sushi anon. of course they are going to use dog shit quality grounded meat when you order it.

>>15361865
>>15361849
this couldnt be further from the truth and if you arent just larping youre retarded. based on what you said about sushi alone, i can tell youve never been to japan
>>15361818
how do people this dumb breathe

>>15361641
I dont think ground tuna rolls are actually authentically japanese, like how chop suey isnt actually chinese

>>15361641
The reason it's ground tuna is because rolls like this are made with the less desirable and "clean" parts of the fish. Basically when fileting you have lovely blocks of nice meat and those are used more for your nigiri and sashimi. Then when you get closer to the tail you've got little bits of meat wedged between tough tissue called "fascia." You can't really eat the fascia, as it's super tough, so you remove the meat from in between it by peeling it out with a spoon. Because this meat is already basically in paste form, you use it for rolls like >>15361641

>>15362734
Exactly!
Cooked using Nakaochi and Kawagishi.

Nakaochi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1ceTQEGAHY

Kawagishi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqGoPdRpmq8

most sushi rolls you eat in the west were invented in the west to appeal to white people who dont like nigiri sushi

>>15361641
I live in Japan and people here genuinely think that corn on pizza is delicious and some sort of hidden italian delicacy. People here are really fucking nuts about italian food but can never remotely cook anything like it. There are loads upon loads of "italian" restaurants here but when you go in it's always some weird fucking japanese ripoff where they fuck up all of the dishes by adding jap shit like raw squid and eel and shit to it and then they try to fucking play it off as "real italian food". It doesn't help that people here don't know what normal bread or cheese is. It's all fucking gross. I have not had any normal-tasting cheese in all the time I've lived here, and good bread is about as rare as a properly paid salaryman. These people are born on this island, they will live their whole lives on this island, and they will die on this island without ever tasting real bread or cheese in their life and that's just sort of sad. The worst part is that because no japanese person actually knows what real italian food is like, nobody can call restaurants out on this bullshit, everyone eats it all up and calls it "honto ni umaiiii uwu" and everyone thinks this is what real italian food is like. It's just sad. "OOOOhhh rettsu addu fishu eggu andu seaweedu to pasta carbonara don't u kno this is how rearu itarian peeporu eat!". The worst part for me is that japan doesn't just massacre classic italian food like this, but they also do it with every other country's cuisine imaginable. French, spanish, mexican, turkish, you name it. They botch everything they come across as "wow foreign so cool" but it's never apparently fucking good enough unless they douse it in soy sauce and raw octopus to make it "authentic european" food. Don't get me wrong I love me some japanese food but fuck this country for ruining foreign food culture and fuck the people for being too retarded to not know what real food is like, even though they kind of can't help it, fuck em it's gross

I asked this in another thread, but what are some cheap fish I can use for sushi? I need something other than tuna or salmon.
I thought about sardines and trouts, any suggestions?

>>15363032
Good pasta about pasta

>>15363036
Sanma and Shisamo

>>15361921
This, sometimes the scraps they use for it are called 'scrape' because it's literally the stuff they scrape off the bone.

>>15363134
Forgot to mention that I live in Europe.

>>15361839
retarded women and faggots like to eat sushi too so they can moan/brag about they just spent 50-100 bux on overpriced ethnic food.

>>15361879
>i am not politically incorrect, so you just forget about it!
triggered faggot needs to cope.
>continues to suck dick like a good consumer

>>15361839
It's difficult communicating with someone who has a rudimentary grasp of english, Deng. How many years of shitposting do you have left before they'll let you see your wife and kid again?

>>15363305
>consumer coomer
LOL

>>15361827
Ironic considering Japanese food is as bland as it gets.

>>15362120
So true. All those hillbillies beheading people in the name of Jesus are a plague!

>>15361919
>, we didn't attack pearl they did,
... because they were baited into it by a US government that wanted war but needed an excuse to start one to rile up an otherwise isolationist public.

>>15363334
As much as I want to love Japanese food, I can't. Outside of Ramen and Okonomiyaki most of the food has the same flavor. It's not bad by no means but it isn't isn't on my bucket list when I think of foods to try out. Why is Japanese food taste the same?

>>15363353
>Asians are smar-

>>15361784
>cream cheese
if it's only a little bit it's fine but they always put too much and it overpowers everything

>>15363036
Mackerel
Look for Norwegian frozen mackerel of a quality that is safe to eat raw.
If you can't find it, you can grill it and make sushi with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-xCtjIHh2w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nc8NVMx4H0

>>15363357
because your tastebuds are fried from eating overly sweet, overly salty, overly spicy processed foods. You can't even tell the difference between Hokkaido edamame and Aichi edamame.

>>15362922
why do you have to talk about niggery sushi
obviously white people dont like that
but were discussing jap sushi ITT

>>15362624
Shut up weeb

>>15364135
>you're a weeb if you don't hate japan

>>15361828
It's true, retard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka0KU8DjRCk

>>15362379
This application, for example, is great for the akami that you scrape off the bones. It's normally too fishy, but the seasoning of the spicy sauce mitigates that.

>>15363032
そりゃ日本に来た事が無い外人が本当の日本の食を知らないのと同じ事だよ
それに日本のチーズがダメな事やパンが違う事も少し賢い人ならわかってる事だ

>>15363392
>cream cheese is too spicy!

Do Americans really

>>15367671
SEAmonkeys need to be banned from this website. The quality would skyrocket.

>>15367646
コピペにマジレスワロタw
日本人向けの煽りコピペはあと三つぐらいあるから脊髄反射で釣られないように

>>15361668
>minch the meat up into inedible slop
It's going to be fucking a mashy slop in your mouth while you chew it anyway

>>15361818
Dangerously close to copy pasta

>>15368761
Read>>15368141, faggot.

>>15361641
a sushi place up my street made spicy salmon/tuna rolls with whole pieces of fish but unfortunately they had to move their location a few yeard ago

>>15361784

you're talking shit mate and you're about to catch these hands.