/ck/ - Food & Cooking

First for based Nespresso Ristretto and Aeroccino milk frother.

>>15307601
There’s nothing like a good espresso to start the day full of energy

Bros how do I stop taking pictures of my cappuccino? The gradient is so cool

>>15307620
How's it taste?

>>15307624
Nothing like a good coffee after a steak dinner.

Few good Instagram accounts to follow for your coffee fix.

https://instagram.com/thetrendybarista?igshid=so6btanyu1ln

https://instagram.com/alvarezluisf?igshid=1h7wa0r6rmczl

https://instagram.com/unfiltered_coffee_co?igshid=mwsqh0bzeh4t

https://instagram.com/worldofcoffeeofficial?igshid=4hf9ln7jlyz3

>fascists put sugar in their coffee
More confirmation that fascists are faggots.

>>15307644

How do you feel about instant coffee?

>>15307651
I use that shit to make that meme Instagram whipped coffe cream using the sugar/coffe/water mixture and immediately after I regret having wasted my time to make that shit

>>15307659
I've heard of that. I fucking love the instant, though I consider it a different drink to espresso or filter.

I work in the coffee industry now but my first job was night shift in a super-market and that's all I drank and I've developed a taste for it ever since.

Guess it's like liking cheap strippers, you know they are shit bit there is something about them that keeps you coming back.

>>15307637
>How's it taste?
light roast, bright and sharp like fruit, low bitterness and low body, easy to drink but not heavy, stronger coffee drinkers would find it too light. Coffee to milk to froth ratio is 1:1:1, so a cappuccino yeah

>>15307633
I can't stop either, my espressos come out different everyday and sometimes it's comes out just right and I feel the need to take a picture. We're a lost cause

>>15306114

That doesn't look like a moka pot at all. Show me some mokas shooting through sheetrock fgr.

>>15306521
>dhl shipping

Yeah, thats why I added some dumb dripper bags to ease the sting. Only $20 shipping for me, but itll be here in a few days. I honestly should have added two of their dumb canisters to offset the cost, now I'm going to have to reorder sometime in 2021.

https://kurasu.kyoto/products/kurasu-coffee-canister-by-kato-seisakujyo

>>15307734
Get the double-wall glasses, so it looks like they're suspended in air. The correct angle is needed for that

Does a browner crema mean the coffee is stale? I use a moka pot and the coffee I've recently switched to comes with a brownish/reddish crema.

>>15307852
I've wanted one but never picked one up yet, drink would stay warmer too

>>15307852
that's a cool effect btw

Is this a new meme or just OP bumping his own threat repeatedly?

They ignored me on al/ck/ so I’m posting here again.

Try this if you’re into espresso, this is the final nail in your caffeine coffin, or should I say coffeen?

Cofe

Coffe & cake time

Is exploding mokapot a meme fabricated by big espresso to spook you into buying overpriced coffee machines?

>>15310248
No, it's just one autist

>>15307819
Not him but that picture is of a pressure cooker lid. While I do trust the engineering that went into the 9barista as someone that works with gas plumbing fairly regularly pressure vessels scare the piss out of me. Valves fail, it's just a fact of life.

thought i had ground my beans when i hadn't and ended up spilling them all over the floor
fun way to start a day

>>15307852
>>15307734

dang, always did this in a ceramic mug, maybe I should just get a glass one for aesthetic.

Cappuccino gang rise

Cappuccino gang rise

Legit thread

>>15310838
Wait till you hear about water heaters.

>>15307893
More to do with roast level. Darker will produce darker.

>>15307633
try getting a bf so you spend their time with them and then you don't have to send 4chan your coffee pictures

>>15311941
You aren't wrong, water heaters operate at around 10 bar but are generally not put in the living quarters of your house and people don't fiddle with them (clean, assemble, disassemble, etc) like one does with something like the 9barista.

>>15307852
cute

>>15311974
And again, anyone with an iq above lukewarm water is capable of maintaining and adjusting their water heater. Likewise, anyone dropping $400 on a meme stovetop espresso maker is capable of keeping their valves, orings, springs, and seals functional and safe. I'm still not interested in buying one, but its a pretty fucking well engineered product.

https://9barista.com/product-category/spare-parts/

In other news, to the guy who was complaining about kurasu's high shipping cost from dhl, I just got my order in 2 days from japan to KC. Kind of hard to bitch. Origami dripper looks fantastic and the ethiopian refisa drip bag I snagged is DELICIOUS. Light, fruity, acidic. Everything you could want from a light roast ethio.

>>15312146
Yeah, I just have an irrational fear of pressure vessels. I know a guy that can't use a pressure cooker because it triggers his PTSD from Iraq.

I got a moka pot for c-word along with some no name medium/dark blend. Had a pretty nice cup this morning

>>15312186
>I know a guy that can't use a pressure cooker because it triggers his PTSD from Iraq.

Bet he's white.

I mean the guy has a $30 rebuild kit for everything that can be damaged by prolonged/over heating.

>If 9Barista is left on the cooker for a long time (hours)

Seems like he's thought of the possibility of failure and designed several failsafes into the product. I'm not going to flagrantly shill for anything I haven't owned/used, but I'll correct dumb 4chan comments all day.

>>15312146
>fruity

Just like you

Hi CTG, I got a pour over kit for Christmas. Does anyone have a step by step process for using it? I make a great french press so I'm not completely clueless, just need suggestions for timings/ratios and shit

is this good?
https://bluebottlecoffee.com/preparation-guides/pour-over

also in general it seems like pour overs are a one cup thing, although 30g of coffee for one cup does seem like a lot.

>>15312439
Everyone is a little fruity.

>>15313056
>30g for one cup

Depends on how big your cup is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI4ynXzkSQo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjsGf3R9mc0

https://youtu.be/Vd7O_ET0aqE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivtJOywuzBw

Watch those, make a cup, and report back.

Why hasn't anyone made a <$150 electric grinder better than the encore?

>>15313381
Because the things that make a decent grinder are actually very expensive.

>>15313381
the OXO conical burr is solid, can get at BB&B for 70

my dad got me a kyocera hand grinder for christmas, did he do good?

>>15307591
If it isn't black then it isn't coffee

is turkish coffee a meme or not
would have to be pretty good for me to bother to hand grind for that

>>15313721
i made some today that turned out really good. it's kind of a hot-cocoa-type texture but coffee

>>15313721
It's delicious, but the grinds getting stuck in your teeth suck

Can I add eggnog to my hot coffee? Do you think it comes out good?

>>15314296
Probably not if it's got actual egg in it.

>>15314306
It does. I even beat the whites and whisked them into the regular nog.
You know I might try it a little. Just a bit of nog to see if it's absolutely bad.

>>15307591
Previous thread >>15241248

>>15307591
Has anyone here transitioned from a flair/Robot to a La Pavoni or any other high quality lever machine? What was the experience and the initial learning curve like? Did you feel making the transition improved your shots or made the experience better?

>>15308115
What a handsome mulatto

>>15307651
I make instant coffee and give it to coffee snobs but tell them it's this a amazing freshly ground and brewed coffee sourced locally and they tell me it's amazing and ask me where I sourced it.

>>15315286
I have a robot and I'm going to get a decent next.

>>15315286
I would use it just cos my rural place has a blackout once a month. Use it with a manual grinder & outdoors stove.

>mfw I think I may have an eating disorder centered around coffee

Coffee is literally the highlight of my day. I drink it through all times of the day as long as I don't feel too caffeinated or dehydrated at any given time. As a result I'm kind of a skelly because I never have that much of an appetite. Am I alone here /ctg/ or does anyone else like coffee as much or lived similarly in the past?

>>15313381
Bod bistro is better at 1/3 the price
Baratza is a meme

>>15316678
Worked night shift for five years. Eventually had to keep upping caffeine but I never got skelly, just constant stomach pain and anxiety. You have to ween yourself down before it gets too bad.

>>15316678
iktf anon, I became skelly mode during lockdown from all this good coffee until I realized I felt tired and anxious because of my bad diet.
I still drink about a liter of coffee a day but only in the morning now, and make sure to feed myself even if I don't really feel like it. I gained some weight back and feel better. the plus side is some coffees taste even better paired with a good breakfast.

>>15316107
Already not credible from the part where you claim to interact with people.

>>15315286
flair user here, the pavoni doesn't seem like that much of an upgrade to me, apparently you can only pull 2 shots before the group overheats and you have to use a smaller dose too.
I have no problems getting good shots from the flair, I don't drink milk, and if I want a workflow upgrade I'll just get another basket/grouphead for back to back shots. the plan is to upgrade to a cremina/semi-auto with flow control/decent when the time comes.

Tried to do the 4:6 method with my v60.
Issue is that I broke my bean hopper and can't grind the beans coarse enough for it.
I need to get around to ordering a replacement for it.

>>15315286
This thing is fundamentally flawed. Really no reason to buy it aside from nostalgia.

Stuck in Malaysian quarantine....

>>15315286
It's fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOOY0uWwlAA

>>15318797
How is it flawed?

Sweet to balance out the soury fruity coffee I made

opinions on freezing coffee beans?

>>15320021
the best thing you can do for long term bean storage, in a blind taste test by america's test kitchen (I think it was them), beans frozen for 6 months were nearly indistinguishable from fresh beans. You don't even need to thaw or do anything weird, just straight from the freezer to the grinder

>>15313703
shut the fuck up nigga

>1.5 years experience
>still shaky with latte art

coffee tasted good but still mad about the art

My setup ain't much, but it's mine.

>>15320340
and a cappuccino to kick off the new year

>>15320340
That's plenty for good coffee, anon

I got a nespresso for christmas and this coffee is better than the actual espresso machine my mom has so now I'm fiscally enslaved to buying the fucking capsules

>tfw the local tap water is 440 ppm

I got a bag of coffee aged in bourbon barrels for Christmas. The coffee tastes like shit when you brew it. The alcoholic barrel smell is overwhelming any flavor you might get from it.

What the fuck do I do with this?

>>15321807
cold brew? or throw it away.

>>15321807
Make iced coffee. Conversely, cold brew if you have a baby pee pee weak weak WEAK stomach.

>>15320014
Are those coffee macaroons? Can I have some?

>barista at the local third wave coffee shop asks me if I work in coffee

does this mean I'm cool?

>>15321454
my local tap water has one of highest mineral content levels in the USA. I never drink that stuff, don't make tea or coffee with it. It tastes like complete garbage.

Learning Latte art is really demanding. This is my best one yet. How do I get the bottom part cleaner?

>>15321901
Yes. You made it!

>>15321807
Irish coffee.

>>15320021
Do it. Grind them frozen unless you packed them in a vacuum. (How to I say this in English?). If so, you can defreeze inside the closed back.

Coof

>>15307591
What goes best in it? I put pumpkin spice and nutmeg in mine with milk

>>15314272
>>15314284
What are your methods? I've recently tried to get into Turkish coffee but I've yet to make a good cup.

>>15323236
honestly I just boil water with grinds in it, they've gotta be superfine too. heat it until it boils over, then remove, do that twice more. That's uhh, kind of it for me.

what bean grinder should i buy

What's the best coffee maker that's around 75 dollars or less? Outside of french presses and pour overs that is, I'm talking about just a plug-in kind

>drink coffee maybe once a day
>often get a brief "high" like 3 hours after I drink it
Is this just the comedown or something? Why do I only get it then?

>>15320340
that's an arendo grinder, isnt it?
how do you like it and would you recommend it for someone with a frenchpress & moccapot?

>>15321901
Because of what you buy? Or you talk to them about it?

>>15323236
https://www.turkishcoffeeworld.com/How-to-make-Turkish-Coffee-s/54.htm

this is the method i used that worked out really well. don't let it boil, just let it foam

>>15307591
What is the most pretentious way to make coffee?

>>15326220
In public

Any recommendations for an entry level burr grinder capable for espresso? My Hario Skerton has served me well but I just got a new espresso machine and I would like to try taking it more seriously.

>>15326886
I should clarify that I'm looking for an electric grinder around $200-400. Currently have a pressurized basket but I'm planning moving to non-pressurized and kinda want to try my hand at a bottomless portafilter (eventually)

Are expensive gooseneck kettles with temperature control like the EKG Stagg a meme, and am I just better off with a knockoff stovetop one with a thermometer instead? I'm starting to find my cheap electric kettle a bit too messy for pourover.

>>15327216
electrics are nice, just get a bonavita. staggs are more than double the price. It's a fucking kettle, I have a hard time believing I need to waste money on one.

>>15326907
Sette 270. It's quite loud.

>>15321220
Nah you aint senpai.

Save the capsules, refill them with your own espresso grinds and seal them with a bit of tin-foil. Work perfectly.

I started doing it because I'm an ecofag and don't want to have to bin twice as much plastic as the fucking coffee I'm drinking, but it's a hell of a lot cheaper too.

>>15321807
> Add real bourbon
> Add splash Baileys
> Keep adding real bourbon to taste, or you pass out.
> ???
> Give the person responsible gimmicky shit of stuff they like for the next decade as punishment.

>>15327216
>>15327356
Staggs are great. Got mine to do double duty for tea, but worth every penny. PID + 60 minute hold is goat tier, quick to boil, and its very well balanced in your hand.

coof

fooc

>>15307591
Thinking about ordering coffee from here including pic related. Anyone have experience with them.
ib4
>dark roast
>robusta

>>15331195
don't forget
>6-Bean Blend
>Charcoal
Haha, idk, dude. Try it out for shits. See if it makes you shit.

>>15321821
Sure.
https://uboachan.net/ot/res/20894.html#q21219

>>15321220
If nespresso > barista/cafe-style espresso machine, you're doing it wrong.

I love the smell of coffee beens, but it never tastes like it smells. How do I brew coffee so it tastes as good as the beans smell?

pic probably unrelated

How do you coffee?

>>15327516
I'll take a look, thanks anon.

>>15332686
For me, it's the vacuum pot.

>>15333259
>vacuum pot on stovetop
huh. I'm not quite sure why in my mind the only way to make a siphon coffee would be by using a small butane burner. How does it taste?

>>15325231
option-o REMI hand grinder

>>15333685
Tastes great, its stronger than drip but not bitter like percolator. Ive never gotten the point of the butane burner ones, they are small as fuck and probably take forever to heat

>>15332686
For me, it's the Chemex

>>15333685
all the hipster coffee shops I've seen have a little butane burner on display

so my brother gifted me a quite nice coffeegrinder for xmas
now i want to upgrade my other stuff, can you guys recommend me a nice french press and/or mocca can pls
Is bialetti any good?

>>15335206
Bialetti is the inventor of moka, so it's probably solid.

>>15335206
Yes, just make sure it was made in an Italian factory.

>>15332686
moka pot cuban coffee

>>15331740
Blends aren't entirely bad if the goal is to make a custom flavor. Also not all dark roasts get charcoal tier; though a good dark roast is harder to find than a light roast. Its specifically for my moka pot. I've had cheaper end robusta blend coffee from Italy(Lavazza) and enjoyed that. I'm looking for a Italian style esspresso roast, which would have robusta in it, and a good robusta at that.

fucking weird how much drawdown time can differ between beans
had a fine grind on a brazillian that went down in under 3 minutes, while the same one took about 4 minutes for an ethiopian

>>15333742
You know, I was looking at those in comparison to the Helor 101. Seems superior in every way, except they decided to make the hopper a smaller capacity. That kind of ruins it for me because I use 35-40g of coffee. What were they thinking with that??

>>15335946
Got me thinking. Who are all these pussies using 15-25g per cup? Has the weak coffee gang taken over the world? What hand grinders have a normal capacity? The comandante?

>>15336017
An 8oz cup is ~250 ml. 250/16=~15g. Not what I'd describe as weak.

>>15335206
bialetti and alessi make the best moka pots
can't go wrong with either, though i prefer the Alessi ones (bit more expensive)

>>15336469
It's relative, I suppose. Fact remains that I use 35-40g per cup. Anything else out there besides the Comandante with a larger capacity? Those are unobtainable now. What's the story on that?

>>15335946
>>15336017
i make espresso and similar "espresso-lite" strong brews like moka pot, so i don't have a need to grind 1000kg of beans

if you're going to call anyone "pussies" it would be retards drinking 99% water with a hint of bean

if you were actually an adult though, you would realize that different coffee appeals to different people and has different grind/dosage/brew requirements

>>15335946
>>15336017
>>15336594
kinu phoenix fits a lot of coffee

>>15336794
Phoenix seems cheapie. Rather wait and see what they come up with after retooling.

>>15336808
Being picky because these shits are all pricey little things.

>>15336808
it's just the plastic build, the actual grinder is just fine
if you want to overpay for a metal chassis that's your prerogative

>>15336818
Yeah, I kinda do want to overpay for a metal grinder that will only ever need replacement burrs. I'm not very big on plastic.

>>15336808
I've got a phoenix. They're fucking great when you can snag them, but its been pretty hard in 2020 apparently.

>>15336836
Just get an m47 classic and flip it(or get the pourover burrs) when they come out with a new flagship.

>>15336930
Several of the well-regarded manual grinders aren't availible this year. Sucks. And sorry about being an asshole. It's the easiest way to get replies on 4chan.

>>15336808
I went with a Simplicity because I had worries with the Phoenix's plastic holding the bearings eventually becoming warped misaligned. That said, it was a pure gut feeling and I could be completely wrong. On the other hand, the Classic is overkill in terms of metal parts.

>>15338802
I'm getting tired of my piece of shit old grinder, but I can wait a little while for everything to come back in stock. I'm considering the kinu m47 classic, the Comandante, the remi, and that new timemore chesnut x looks pretty cool (although it's not available yet outside of China).

bros, what is it about a freshly brewed coffee, a fresh baguette, and some double or triple cream cheese that goes literally perfect together

>>15338845
Get the m47. When he says its overkill, you could crack open several skulls without worrying about the grinder fucking up. Could probably do the same on the phoenix, but only worry about buying a new catch cup.

>>15338802
>Phoenix's plastic holding the bearings

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I read the plastic spokes actually have steel rods in them. I'll let you know if mine ever breaks.

>>15307591
Café au lait without sugar is the best healing.

>>15338802
What do you think of the thumb stop? It looks annoying.

Anyone here brewed a lot with TIm Wendelboe's aeropress recipe? I keep getting cups that start very harsh but have very complex, enjoyable finishes. If I grind coarse enough to get the harshness out of the cup then I also get rid of the excellent finish. the result is a very bland cup

>>15335218
>>15335248
>>15336584

thx lads!
Any different recommendations for a french press or bialetti aswell

>>15340779
Get a stainless steel double-walled French Press.

How make good mocha? I pour one teaspoon or maccona and 1 teaspoon of Coco and add milk and water?

>>15332686
Cold brew

>>15340708
yeah, I use a pretty coarse grind and brew for 2 minutes instead of 1. fine grinds and short brew times give me that harshness.

Do you guys have any recommendations for a reusable coffee filter for a v60? I've seen the "coffee sock" brand before that looks good but is it any better than the paper filters? theres also a few metal mesh strainers that seem good, are they worth it?

I buy this stuff. I have to add a bunch of sugar to make it drinkable. Sometimes I'll add milk. Is it something wrong with the coffee or is it my unrefined palate

Finally pulled the trigger and bought the meme robot espresso device. Can anyone recommend some good beans for this thing? The beans from my local shop aren't very beginner friendly according to my google research.

>>15338845
The thing I keep hearing but have not personally compared (since I don't have access to a Comandante) is that the Comandante is better for pour overs than even the M47 equipped with the pour over burr. On the other hand, Kinu is better for espresso and is undeniably the more durable of the two, especially the Classic.
You really can't go wrong with any of the three versions of the M47 (or bonus points if you can get your hands on a Traveler). If I could point out a downside to the M47s that I've personally experienced, it's that the chaff can get stuck to the bottom of the burr a lot, but it's nothing a good tap on the grinder won't solve.

>>15339633
That's good, then. It probably won't. If the Simplicity wasn't an option, I'd go for the Phoenix as the Classic is too bulky and personally way too expensive for me.

>>15340682
It never bothered me at all. Personally, it's pretty nifty.

>>15341181
honestly even a good instant coffee is decent at best anon. Most of the stuff I've had tastes kinda like a bike tire.

It could also be your palate, but whatever, you do you.

>>15341130
Sock and a stainless filter will brew different coffee than a paper filter. Ymmv.

>>15341515
>That's good, then. It probably won't.

Its already fallen off a shelf once. Turned a bong and a quartz banger to dust.

Are cappuccinos less ideal for your morning poo than coffee?

thoughts on this grinder? im looking for a burr grinder for $100 or less, unless anyone says im just not gonna get anything quality in that price range.

>>15332686
Chemex at home

I work for a local coffee chain and get a free drink per shift, and if I'm working it's black cold brew.

>>15344115
Junk. I just spent twice that on a towel.

nothing really beats a good ethiopian for me, flavour seems so much more distinct than others

>>15344115
if you want a burr grinder in that price range that's not rubbish, manual is definitely a better bet

>>15341413
I think any cheap bean, even supermaket stuff, that's roasted darker than medium would do.
Move on to your actual good beans once you have don't get channelling, between 6 to 9 bars of pressure, right amount of extraction times and decent (as supermarket stuff can go) taste from your espresso, of course.

I just bought a French Press after years of drinking Keurig shit.
It's literally just steeping with grounds then putting it through a strainer, I feel like a jackass for spending 35 bucks on this, although admittedly it's already better than the brown water from the Keurig.
Is there at least anything interesting I can do with one?

>>15345360
if you heat up milk you can froth it with a french press, not as good as a steam wand but it does the job.
I've seen people use it for loose leaf tea as well.

Should I cop an aeropress or stick with my french press bros? I like my french press brew but jesus christ cleaning it up is annoying

>>15345390
to add, instead of an aeropress should I get an espresso machine or something? I just want something beginner friendly that's different besides my french press

>>15345360
Instead of using hot water and letting it sit for 4 minutes, use cold water and let it sit for at least 12 hours. Voila, cold brew.

>>15345390
>>15345459
v60 with a good grinder to fit your taste is superior to an aeropress in every way

>>15345988
dubs of truth.

>>15332686
espresso. Usually make cortados

I have a new Kenyan that's been really challenging to roast. I do not like it at all before first crack, but it has a really late, rolling crack. First attempt I stopped it right afterwards (I guess) and my beans were really odd looking. Like half of each individual bean was light, half was dark. Evens out right after this, but goes right to second crack within a minute or two, even with the heat lowered. Third batch I finally roasted it okay. Tastes pretty good if I don't miss the narrow little window. Definitely some defects in the green–a few stray malformed mutants, although it's supposedly an AB grade. Luckily, I only bought a few pounds.

Coffe + Chocolate

Frappuccinos are the only reason I go to Starbucks, or any cafe for that matter.

>>15345459
Don't bother with budget espresso machines unless you put milk in coffee. I got a 100€ delonghi machine for free, it makes inconsistent espresso and it's a pain to operate. I honestly prefer my moka pot.

>>15332628
i always saw that as a goal, V60 and year of trying to improve the recipe got me closest to that so far, but aint there yet

>>15346755
you're a faggaccino

Are machines a meme? Brought this one 2 years ago roughly

>>15307591
Nespresso drinker here. I want to step up my coffee game. Im looking to buy a coffee machine that makes some serious gourmet shit. I like drinking espresso and lungo. What should I get?

>>15344115
Surprisingly good

i can't get all the water to pass through my chemex before the 4 minute extraction period is up. what am i doing wrong? should i let the grinds bloom longer than 30 seconds? the grind is medium.

>>15346802
Try not buying junk next time.

>>15345390
take the cuban-pill
get a moka pot

I'm a dark roast lover but I'd like my coffee to kick me awake more in the morning. I've been told that the lighter roasts have more caffeine. Is the difference in caffeine that noticeable?

>>15347220
is it any good?

>>15349609
Drink what tastes good to you, but use more coffee to water. I don't think caffeine magically disappears, however, the same volume of coffee weighs less the darker you roast. Measure by weight, not volume.

Cold as fuck out here

>>15346755
used to work at starbucks and if you knew what went into them, you wouldn't be drinking them

>>15348961
for conical filters you need a fine grind. not medium. medium is for flat bottom filters

>>15350027
care to extrapolate?

>>15349848
looks comfy

>>15350040
the volume of syrups, all the chemicals. The instant coffee they make the frap coffee concentrate with smells like fish when you first mix it.

>>15350040
it's like half your body weight in sugar, retard

>>15349609
They do not. You want a blend with robusta in it for more caffeine.

>>15346755
this has to be bait

>>15350050
>drinking frapps
is a simple mocha not that bad, atleast? or is it all fucked mate

>>15349610

Yeah if you're shopping for a machine lelit is pretty top-tier I'm sure. Inbuilt grinder is handy but if you have the cash + bench space get a grinder on the side.

Just the inbuilt grinder is a bit more manual as in weighing up beans/altering if more course/fine. Additional grinder does that for you

>>15350043
Roasted up close to an lb since its going to be even shittier for the next week or so. 1 jar each of straight brazilian ruby and yellow bourbon, both semiwashed. Then a mix of the two roasted together so I didn't have 70g of greens taking up a container. New meme jars otw so my photos will be better.

>he doesn't exclusively drink black coffee

>>15350572
Lido owners don't get to get uppity.

>>15350349
A mocha frappucino is still loaded with sugar. A grande has about 6-7 tablespoons of syrup in it. The seasonal drinks like salted caramel, peppermint mocha, etc have double that. If you are talking about a mocha latte, that's a little better because they don't put the frap base (syrup to help the ice blend) and they don't use the instant coffee mix that smells like fish. I recommend you get an iced mocha latte if you want a similar taste and if you must go to starbucks. I will say that espresso from starbucks tastes nothing like the real thing. I've been a barista at small coffee shops for many years hand making espresso drinks

I need to vent about how my mom makes coffee. We use a french press in our house. I'm usually up a few hours before she is and I will make a pot of coffee. Usually just regular Folgers, I'm simple when it comes to coffee. I'll boil the water and pour it over the grounds and stir it up, let it steep for about 5-10 minutes which is more than enough time to brew the coffee. My mom ends up waking up later and will put on a pot. The first annoying thing that she does is when she boils the water, she will let the kettle sit and whistle for a good 2-3 minutes before getting up to pour the water. A few times she has let it boil to the point where she has to refill it because it's not enough to fill the container. She can clearly hear it as she is just sitting on computer in the living room which is right next to the kitchen while she allows the kettle to scream. But once she pours the coffee, this is where my real problem begins. She doesn't stir the coffee and never has. But to make up for the lack of stirring she will let the coffee sit, unpressed for typically 30minutes to 2 hours but she has let it steep for even longer than that. The worst part is, she usually only ever has one cup out of the 2 cup press so I've gotten in the habit of drinking that second cup and even pouring and pressing the coffee myself. But if I go to press the coffee even after 10 minutes my mom will get upset with me claiming that "It needs to steep longer". I try explaining to her that it's already been plenty of time but she insists pressing it any sooner makes the coffee taste weak.

>>15350572
is pour over any good?
i'm used to drinking moka & espressos

>>15351037
just get your own fucking french press with your name on it.

>>15351037
Don't press french presses.

>>15347596
A good hand grinder geared toward espresso is a must. Then you can decide if you want a manual lever machine like a Flair or a decent entry-level semiautomatic machine.

Anyone have any good guides or anything for getting started with coffee? I only buy it takeaway currently but am interested in buying some stuff to make it myself. I currently own nothing that I could use to make it.

>>15353216
1. buy beans
2. grind beans
3. soak grinds in water
4. filter grinds out of the water
5. drink the brown water

>freeze coffee in a Ziploc freezer bag three weeks ago
>made sure to get as much air out as possible like the George Howell article told me to
>double-bagged it into another Ziploc freezer bag
>three weeks pass
>take it out
>let it come to room temp overnight
>make coffee
>tastes awful, worse than coffee that went stale in room temp even
>adjust grind, brewing methods, etc.
>still tastes awful

Do I need a vacuum sealer to freeze store coffee?

>>15353363
are you sure it was good before you froze it?

>>15353363
Freeze in a different container like glass jars.

>>15353667
Yes, it was very good.

i got a naked filter for delonghin ec680 and i gotta say it changed everything. Not only did it remove 90% of the annoyances with the machine it also makes everything taste better.

what voodoo magic is in ethiopian soil
every time i have a cup i'm weirded out by how strange it is

>>15350572
that counter is awful, consider that the next upgrade in your coffee setup

>>15353796
>you have to replace working furniture because design

Be a woman somewhere else.

>>15351037
Either you make your mom a cup of coffee good enough to change her mind or you shut the fuck up and keep taking it like the bitch you are.

>>15353216
check out hoffman's youtube channel
get a coffee grinder
buy whole beans

>>15354915
Fuck grinding, unless you're buying a $100 grinder preground is just better.

>>15354926
you're absolutely insane
grinding your own beans is the single most impactful step you can take towards improving your coffee

>>15354926
wew

>>15354926
>$100 grinder
>expensive
stupid nigger

>>15354926
I too, enjoy the taste of Folgers in my cup.

>>15354929
That statement doesn't contradict mine

>>15354952
i can see how you would say that with how difficult it must be for you to breathe on your own

>>15354926
>$100
>expensive
get out while you can

What's a good small scale that will fit under a Flair? Preferably not something ridiculously priced like an Acacia Lunar.

>>15355381
Acaia lunar is the only "smart" scale that fits underneath the flair, and just barely. Acaia cinco fits better but is more expensive. You're looking for a 500g jewelers scale with 0.01g resolution. Check aliexpress. Should run you about $10. 300g will do it, but my mug was too heavy to use it for pourovers too. Wrap it in cling film because oily espresso fucks electronics.

>>15355513
I've got a scale that fits underneath, but it's weird in that the flow of the espresso into the glass seems to throw the scale reading off if I'm pulling a shot without using the spout.

whats the best drip brew machine? want something I can clean well better than the plastic machine I have.

>>15355563
Moccamaster or brevile/sage precision brewer.

>>15355551
I've got zero issues with the lunar after a little playing around in the settings. Pressing down a flair onto warped plywood was giving a little flex that would stop my recording in the sep app. Need to build a brew bar but the price of wood has tripled in the past 6mo.

>>15355597
thanks :) never heard of those brands so this helps a lot

Coof

>>15354915
>get a coffee grinder
any recs?

>>15356487
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn9OuRl1F3k

>>15356508
thanks!

>>15346738
I noticed that a good mocha is really great, but finding the best chocolate for it is a bit of a pain in the ass. Any cheap chocolate flavor notes become immediately apparent, but any chocolate that really accentuates the espresso is usually not worth the price.

>>15325747
desu it isn't the best, but for moka and french press it's just fine. Would not recommend for puling espresso though.

anyone got general thread of steak?

goddammit i shit bricks everytime i get myself a good cup. is there any way to alleviate this problem?

>>15356487
look at that guys video. i've got a REMI coming in tomorrow -- i'll let you know how it goes

>>15357086
Please do. It's one of the ones I'm looking at, too.

>>15357025
Just how coffee works bro.
Warm liquids, caffeine, and other chemicals found in coffee stimulate smooth muscle contractions which make you want to poop.

>>15357189
hah doodoo

>>15357189
i thought caffeine actually facilitated constipation
i think there's something in the coffee beans in particular that makes them a mild laxative

Anyone likes having a coffee after a good meal?

>>15357025
no
>>15357374
caffeine? so it also works for tea?

>>15354926
>preground is better
ISHYGDDT

Cute

>>15357086
I like everything about that(fixed alignment, unibody, swappable burrs) but why the fuck would they go bottom adjust...

Just got a nespresso. My sister has six years of barista experience and actually recommended it to me. Any tips for getting the best experience? Best pod picks, tricks, etc.

>>15354952
Imagine being so needy for validation and approval that you'll stoop to just going around on 4chan and saying "T-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-thhat doesn't mean I'm w-wrong though."

>>15353806
I agree with him. Get something nice and dark to contrast with the backsplash. You have an excellent choice with the wall then absolutely trash underneath it.

>>15358789
Classic or Vertuo?

>>15358918
Vertuo

>>15357374
Caffeine increase péristaltism

>>15357727
basically all of the Mediterranean (that matters) does this

>>15357830
should

>>15357830
Tea has less caffeine than coffee, so it depends on how much is consumed.

>>15319993
Tiny reservoir in the group leads to chronic issues of low volume. Along with that, if the group isn't juuuust right temp wise you won't purge the air from the group with the steam, leading to even less water in the group and low pressure. But if you let it get too hot (very easy) then you have to employ some kind of workaround to cool it down.

On a flair you will not have these issues.

>>15358775
Probably because top dial would involve complete redesign of the grinding mechanism and handle, rather than only the body milling. Stepless tho, two stabilising arms for easier loading, and magnetic catch. Biggest gripes I see are reduced capacity and grinds retention. There is no perfect manuel grinder yet.

Would you think it's worth upgrading from a Wilfa Svart to a Uniform or Comandante?
I usually only make coffee for myself, so handgrinding 20-35g shouldn't get annoying imo.
Comandante looks good obviously. Also saw good things about Timemore grinders, but don't want to spend 100€ on something that would just be on the same level as my current Svart.
Any thoughts maybe?

>>15350572
That looks depressing.
Put a little plant there or something.

>>15350036
Tetsu Kasuya 4:6 method uses coarse grind and works well.

>>15358978
Excellent! Living the Mediterranean dream!

anyone here good at eyeballing milk to know when it's ready for latte art? i keep overfoaming. does anybody have a picture of what the milk should like like while in the jug?

>>15341515
>>15338845
comandantes are good. never had a trouble with going fine. it could just take a while to grind though, but that's the same as any handgrinder. you won't get similar grind quality with machines unless you spend a thousand dollarinos.

>>15358978
>basically all of the Mediterranean (that matters) does this
Certainly shows in their countries' GDP's. Maybe less coffee breaks and more work would be a good idea.

>>15360888
>>15328084
>>15350572
do you EKG Stagg niggers think it's worth it? i had a chance to buy one for USD 160 but turned it down. i'm kinda regretting it now because i probably won't be seeing that price again.

also a Timemore should only cost about 50 dollars. might as well pay 270-300 dollars for a Comandante.

>>15360888
the uniform is a worthy upgrade from the svart, if you want to stay electric.

>>15358978
coffee != expresso u fucking tard

>>15307591
Anyone here tried a mayan mocha?
Cayenne, cinnamon, nutmeg, black pepper, salt, sugar, cocoa powder, cream added to black coffee
My latest obsession

>>15362295
I am more concerned with quality and less with convenience.
So if the Comandante is even much better than the Uniform, then I wouldn't want to spend more on the Wilfa, just because I don't have to handgrind.
>>15361965
Stagg is my first gooseneck kettle, but I like it a lot.
You don't have to get that one, but gooseneck and 1° temp control should be a must.
Stagg is nice as it also holds the temp, when you place it back onto the base, has integrated flow control and you can really pour straight down vertically. Not sure how common that is among gooseneck kettles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgmAi6zGTKs
It also has a timer built in, but I always use the one from my scale instead.

>>15362425
Too many things imo.

>>15362425
No, but I want to.

>TFW you're trying a new coffee and your initial grind is way off

>>15363593
I just got into proper coffee making a few months ago and ordering all kinds of different small packages since then.
It's annoying since I don't just want to buy a larger amount of one bean, so I only have a limited amount to experiment, but switching between beans can throw you off, wasting even more until you get a good result.

Why do I keep getting high and dry in my pour over?

>>15363817
What's your method?
Are you dumping all your water at once in the first 5 seconds right down the center?

>>15361965
Yeah but I also drink alot of tea so the accurate temp and pid are pretty great.

>>15363825
Wetting the grounds with the water going just above the mound. Waiting 30 seconds for bloom. Pouring 2 more times halfway up the funnel. Scraping grounds off the sides when the water starts dripping. Coffee tastes good regardless. Grind size is medium and I've done it with medium coarse before with same taste but even bed. Water is also filtered and 30 seconds off the boil.

>>15364249
Some sticking of grinds to the side is normal, especially as the roast gets darker.

>>15364249
Sounds like you don't know the exact measurements of coffee, water or temperature.
It would be worth a lot to be aware of those, so you know how little changes may affect your end-result.
If you don't have a gooseneck kettle then avoiding the high and dry is really hard imo, since the power of the pour swill is usually quite intense, inevitably pushing the grounds to the sides.

Taking a spoon and giving it a swirl to detach grounds from the wall, right when you finished pouring to the highest point, may be your best bet here.

You can also do intentional high and dry pouring like this
https://youtu.be/miuPSjazpyw?t=338
though I am a bit skeptical, even though that guy should know what he is talking about.

>>15357153
made my first successful cuban with the REMI today
i fucked up yesterday using way too fine a grind and i got a bunch of grounds in my coffee that tasted awful
used a coarser grind today and, although it's not dialed in, it tastes better than my regular cups already
gonna have to play around with the grind coarseness to really get the most out of this grinder

the grinding experience is really nice; the grinder is smooth and quick, and the hopper is really nice to use and doesn't have any static problems
it's really comfy to hold too

>>15364517
forgot to mention: these are ground Bustelo Supreme beans
the red circle is a sample of the pre-ground Bustellos, and the red circle is two different grinds from the REMI

>>15364523
looks good lad

>>15362298
espresso is literally just a method for preparing coffee you insurmountable faggot
saying "Italians like to drink a coffee after a meal" is not wrong, while saying "Amerimutts largely enjoy drinking espresso" is wrong

>>15364532
ty mate
excited to dial this grinder in on some new beans that came in today

>>15361895
Don't think, just earn money then do work to earn more money.

>>15364541
Me when the Niche Zero arrives.

>>15362425
sounds good but that's a lot of ingredient overhead

>>15361895
ok goy
get back to work

Fucking hell, I don't even particularly like coffee, but I absolutely love making it.

>>15364541
Don't get too "locked in" to the grind you dial in. The sharp edges on your fresh burrs will roll over in about a month and the number you have dialed in will change. You're stepless now, so play around. Don't let a tick on the bottom of your grinder limit you.

>>15364714
thanks for the advice

>>15364517
follow-up with some fancier coffee
this has been eye-opening it's so good

>>15364906
forgot image bc im gay & i gargle cock

>>15364919
faggot

>>15364937
uwu

>>15364919
haha your tray says POO

>>15364919
Fill up yer REMI and get a full load capacity weight. Super curious.

my robot got here. Only took 2 days from the day it shipped to get from hong kong to the US.

First shot was very pleasant. I'm still getting floral and lemon notes 10 minutes after drinking it. I ground quite coarse and was expecting an underextracted undrinkable mess. this thing is very forgiving

>>15366214
Oh, and another question for new REMI guy: did you get the conventional or contemporary burr set?

>>15366214
>>15367470
contemporary burrs
i don't have a scale here so i can't weigh it for at least a week

>>15367487
Have you tried a pourover cup with it yet?

>>15367498
don't have pour-over stuff here (hence no scale)
i primarily use a moka pot

>>15314296
I've done it with store bought egg nog. It's okay. Would probably be better with homemade nog but all that effort just to put it in coffee...

Meme collection nearly complete.

>>15364343
Just did 3 small V60 pour overs to compare some new coffees.
Had some leftover grounds I mixed together and tried the single-pour method and that came out way better than I thought it would.
I think I even liked it more than the other pours I did.

Almost feel like all these "methods" are just people pulling stuff out of their ass and the differences are minimal, as long as your grind size, ratio and final drawdown time are good.

Coof

Just a few more weeks, hopefully. Although the Niche will probably arrive after the 9barista.

any opinions on the decent?

>>15369787
Its decent.

>>15369813
dunno about that, price:performance wise

>>15320210
It's been just over 1 year for me as well, I seem to get it right mostly when I'm really focusing as most of the time I just want a quick cup. My mistake is I almost over or under steam the milk. I guess practice makes a man perfect.

>>15321922
It's demanding but fun as well! In my experience I think better crema and perfectly steamed milk can help improve latte art. How exactly to do that? I cannot say for certain as it's mostly trial and error for me as well.

>>15357727
Before/After both work well for me. But I'd say having immediately before/after can sometimes mess your digestion up.

>>15364517
>>15364906
>>15364919
it's me again
this grinder slaps -- my cubans have never been this good
gonna keep playing around with the grind, but the contemporary burrs have a nice range for my moka pot

what to we think about reusable coffee filters for pour over?

>>15370069
Post more results when you get your scale. Considering this grinder and wondering how well it does with pourover on the finer side. Glad to hear you like it. What were you using before?

>>15370069
What keyboard is that?

>>15370595
preground bustello's like a barbarian
pretty much the staple for making cuban coffee (la llave is also popular)

>>15370704
atreus41 by keyboardio

>>15370766
42*

Does anyone have one of these? I love coffee gadgets and this looks like a good bit of fun. Any thoughts?