/ck/ - Food & Cooking

beaners lol

>>15242052
Of course they do, thats why they are so angry.

I don't get sick from beans
t. vegan
>>15242072
Omnis are the ones who get offended and angry when you point out that they are babies who can't live a altruistic lifestyle
/thread

Is Vegan the only dietary choice that's so shit you need to supplement with pills?

I'm not aware of any others.

Reminder that vegan concern trolling is just that, and is reportable

>>15242144
Most people take vitamins

>>15242140
He asked if you were sick of eating beans, not if you were sick from them. Learn to read or maybe eat some eggs because your body needs dietary cholesterol in order to synthesize b12 so it can make your injections bio available.

>>15242173
autocorrect error ;)
>Average vegan diets tend to be deficient in three nutrients, whereas average omnivores tend, unfortunately, to be deficient in seven.
[The vegan study] Results from the German Vegan Study. European Journal of Clinical Nutrition 57(August 2003):947.
[The omnivore study] USDA. Food and Nutrient Intakes by Individuals in the United States, by Region, 1994-96.

Nice try though, heartdisease

>>15242147
So you've nothing to add on whether vegans get bored by having beans as a staple?

>>15242227
how tf you gonna be nutritionally deficient if you are eating a wider variety of food?
What kind of omnivore diet we talking here? Mcdonalds and mountain dew?

Also didn't the founder of the vegan society die of a heart attack?

>>15242227
So... Are you sick of eating beans?

>>15242052
Who gets sick from eating beans?

>>15242140
>>15242227
>>15242402
Fucking brainlets

>>15242173
>cholesterol in order to synthesize b12
Learn to biology you chud

>>15242052
I'm not vegan but I don't get sick of eating beans
they're good

>>15242566
>>15242402
To get 50g of protein you need to eat 230 grams of dried black beans

Can you imagine how many fucking beans that is? That's four bigass bowls of beans every day. There's other shit like tofu and whatever but even that's not much better.

As a vegan, you basically have to use pretend-meat or protein powders to get any kind of sensible nutrition without shredding your guts and mind eating stuff in that kinda volume.

>>15242595
>MUH PROTEIN
You're ugly and no amount of muscle that looks pitiful compared to anyone on the gear will fix that

not a vegan but i love beans
could eat every day and not get bored of then
and besides there is a ton of variation in types beans and how to prepare them

>>15242140
>/thread'ing your own post
Peak vegan

>>15242685
>THAT'S AGAINST THE RULES

>>15242605
50g is literally the recommended adult minimum. You'd need way more to build any above average sorta muscle, I wasn't going that far.

>>15242754
good thing you dont only eat beans then you fucking moron

>>15242762
What else you got?
Brown bread? Less protein dense than beans
Silken tofu? A whopping 8%
I chose black beans because they are the most protein-rich unprocessed food. Everything else is a downgrade. Sure, you're going to eat variety, but that doesn't change the preposterous amount of food you'd have to eat.

To be clear, I'm not knocking protein powders or fakemeats - I just think it's stupid to pretend you can do vegan sensibly without them.

>>15242140
holy fuck imagine being this fucking narcissistic

>>15242140
Frail malnourished fingers typed this post.

>>15242814
>empathy is narcissistic but treating animals like objects to please your taste buds isn't

>>15242595
What a fucking retard, you don't
> assume your daily intake of protein in one meal
> beans are not the only source of protein

Let's say you are 80kg and do sport 3 times a week, then you need 65g of proteins.

>>15242052
Vegans do not get sick

>>15242887
Where did I say anything about one meal? Four bigass bowls of beans is a huge amount of food for ONE DAY, let alone every single day of your life.

And again, obviously I'm not literally suggesting eating beans is your only option - but varying your diet does not make it any easier, you still have to eat a similar volume of food, as black beans are basically as good as it gets short of super strong tofu.

when a man is sick of beans, he is sick of life

>>15242801
> Brown bread?
yes. Since you have to mix legumes proteins with cereals in order to have a complete proteic profile you mix them in your meal.

brown bread has 13g of protein

> Silken tofu? A whopping 8%
you can easily eat 150g of tofu, so 12g of proteins


> Everything else is a downgrade.
> What are legumes and nuts

Sure, you're going to eat variety, but that doesn't change the preposterous amount of food you'd have to eat.

not so much as you can think, if you eat 3 times a day + 2 sneaks, like you should aready do it

>>15242910
This is in contrast to a diet with meat in it, where 50g protein is like a chicken sandwich and an egg for breakfast

>>15242866
Dude you don't have empathy. Stop fooling yourself.
If you really cared about how your consumption habits affected other living creatures you'd grow your own food.


Also legumes give me heartburn.

>>15242910
You can ~50g of protein from two servings of beans on toast.

A can of beans is ~20g and two slices of toast is ~7g.

(Though obviously not the only way.)

>>15242801
>what else ya got? Multiply foods that equate to getting protein seamlessly?
Yes

>>15242910
> Four bigass bowls of beans is a huge amount of food for ONE DAY,

A standard legume portion is 150g + a cereal portion

>>15242052
How can you have beans without deenz?

>>15242952
Not everyone can effectively grow food and the burden of mass slaughter does not fall on the average person. You are deflecting your own inflated insecure sense of self worth

>>15242983
DRY, you dumbass. I fuckin' dare you to eat 150g dry beans in one sitting

>>15242960
>beans on toast
Bong detected

>>15242992
dry indeed, you spherical retard

>>15243000
That's literally three normal human sized bowls of beans if you include your 'grain portion'

>>15242992
I'm a skelly omnivore and I can easily do it

>>15242989
>the burden of mass slaughter does not fall on the average person
What? You do realize a single cow can feed you and your family for an entire year, right? One dead cow isn't exactly "mass slaughter" Not like the fish die offs caused by artificial fertilizer runoff

>>15242995
I prefer frijoles on toast

>>15242995
ffs no one ever knows how to make beans properly. The sauce is always too runny because they don't cook it long enough. Some herbs wouldn't hurt either.

>>15243007
I will drop you $50 if you can mukbang 150g dry beans in one sitting and call it a normal everyday portion

>>15243010
>What?
Can you read? Do you think the environmental and death impact of "just one cow" is restricted to the cow and your nonexistent time period it takes to secure this?

>>15243036
I don't know what to do with fake currency

>>15243037
Imagine that chart but with grass fed beef.
Also I get this chart shoved in my face, you do know this chart wasn't actually made by an actual scientist, right?

>>15243036
dry beans are literal poison, and if beans are even slightly under cooked, you shouldn't eat them.

>>15243011
What's that sauce on top?

>>15242704
I don't give a fuck about the rules, I am pointing out you're a gigantic faggot.
You are what you eat, brain dead vegetable.

>>15243036
Uh won't 5 kidney beans kill you?

I'd guess so

>>15243079
Beef is grass fed for the large part no matter what irrelevant label you see at the supermarket so now you're jusy coping

>you do know this chart wasn't actually made by an actual scientist, right?
It doesn't take a 'scientist' to compile basic numerical data you pretentious dipshit

>TRUZZ DUH SCIENCE!!!

I love 4 chan. Everyone fucking hates vegans here and boo them off to reddit.

It restores my faith in humanity.

>>15243095
>I don't give a fuck about the rules, I am pointing out you're a gigantic faggot.
You are what you eat, brain dead vegetable.

>>15243089
Melted cheese. Looks like some shredded swiss

>>15243107
>I love 4 chan. Everyone fucking hates vegans here and boo them off to reddit.
>It restores my faith in humanity.

>>15243103
:/ I raise my own livestock, and then get wholesale meat from local farmers who I actually meet and see how they operate. So I don't really give a shit what the supermarket label says. I'm actually someone who wants independence from supermarkets. In a perfect world I'd only go to a grocer for dry specialty goods like flour, sugar, and tea. I know this is possible as long as I keep working, since there are locals around me who actually live that way.

>>15242052
does a goat get tired of eating grass?

>>15243113
Well then he's doing it right. Except the beans part. Beans give me heartburn.

>>15242052
I am just a vegetarian, but I never get sick of beans. I am also a Mexican.

>>15243122
Good for you not everyone can live a little pastoral life thanks to colonialism

>>15243123
woah. was not expecting this thread to get so deep. i don't know anon.

>eat hen, pig or cow for every meal
>smugly ask this
wew lad

>>15243144
A lot more people can homestead and garden than you think. The countryside in the west is dying because people are moving to the city, there are tons of economic opportunities and land is surprisingly cheap when you know where to look.

The only people who are stuck are extremely destitute and we shouldn't be taking cheap food away from them anyways.

>>15243123
I should say so. Goats actually really like eating shrubs and weeds. They will also eat all kinds of shit. My neighbor has a pet goat and she had to spray some no chew stuff on her horses tail so the goat would stop eating it.

Also billy goats drink their own peepee and smile about it. I still think they are cute and want to raise some for meat and milk.

>the more you know

>>15243176
Dogs lick and eat their own poop.

>>15243036
Are you kidding?

My normal meal weight around 500g/700g between pasta/vegetables/meats and fruits

You are a forgot if you think 150g of beans is a great achievement.

I would do 120g joyfully, the remaining 30g for the bucks

>>15243198
>Dogs lick and eat their own poop.
only if you're a disgusting pig with a tiny lawn.

>>15243198
They also eat other animals poop and their own vomit.

Pigs also eat their own shit.
In fact, pigs used to be used to help clean up cities and towns by eating all the pre sewer human feces everywhere

>>15243212
No, no. He's right. I take care of a neighbors couple of dogs, he's got 50 acres, the dogs will find where they shit and eat it. It's gross. Dogs are gross.

>>15243212
>He lets his dog poo in the yard
Trailer trash.

>>15243159
And a lot more people can't you myopic fucking retard. Why do you think there's this nonexistent rural move to the city? Because the land and opportunities are bought up by conglomerates. People just can't pack up and move to flyover land so they can jerk themselves to eating homegrown food. This is peak retard smug shit liberal, flyover edition

>>15243218
If your dog is eating its shit, its malnourished and you're feeding it shit. Retard.

>>15243224
Wow what a massive cope. You are just scared because you love living in your shitty overpriced studio apartment as a wagie. You're just like my farm friends free range turkeys. They see the wild turkeys run right in front of them and they could totally run off with them, but the free food and shelter is too much of a temptation. So they stick around and get their heads chopped off in the fall.

>>15243228
*shrug* they aren't my dogs. I agree their food is pretty shit, but otherwise they are well loved and are much happier than apartment dogs who are cooped up all day and can only go out on a leash

>>15243228
It's an evolutionary trait that has nothing to do with hunger or nutrition. It's helps avoid detection from predators.

>>15243238
Lol your retarded ass literally has zero understanding of society

>JUST DROP EVERYTHING AND MOVE TO THIS NONEXISTENT UTOPIA
Fat coping retard. I grow all my spices, tomatoes, and onions. You're just a pretentious dumbass

>>15243245
>*shrugs*
Shut the fuck up mudslime

>>15243287
Nope. No dog eats their own shit unless malnourished. No domesticated or wild dog has any prey based habits like eating shit. Coprophagia is an actual trait exhibited in all animals to maximize nutritional intake. You are not covering up anything by eating shit you fucking dumbass

>>15242052
yeah. sometimes beans get real tiring. but then i just stop eating beans for a while and look for other things.

tempeh & seitan are good for protein and sometimes i just try finding a few different ways to eat one vegetable. butternut squash has been nice to experiment with.

sometimes i'm just a lazy fuck/tired of cooking and get an order of fried tofu and rice from the local takeout place, and split that up over 3 days and do that until i have the motivation to cook again

t. vegan

>>15242173
this offends me with how wrong it is. I almost suspect a troll.
>your body needs dietary cholesterol
your body can make all the cholesterol it needs.
>to synthesize b12
Animals can't make B12 at all they need bacteria and archaea to do it for them and unfortunately the human gut flora is not able to effectively make it for us so we have to get it in our diet instead.
>so it can make your injections bio available.
What?

>>15243302
Like most vegans. You are just kind of an asshole and no one likes you because you are an insufferable, pissy bitch who can't comprehend people living a different lifestyle than you.

>>15243302
Grow potatoes in a bucket.

>>15242072
vegans BTFO!!!

>>15243302
vegan calls someone else a pretentious dumbass
>ironic/10

Is this all vegans?
https://youtu.be/uDVF2Ju8UCw?t=91

>>15242052
>Do vegans not get sick of eating beans?
Not really no, I never get tired of thos beans.
Black beans, red beans, pinto beans, chickpeas, green peas, field peas, purple hulls, blackeye, butter beans, navy and northern, etc. There's such a variety that I can rotate every meal and that's without mentioning lentils..

>>15242945
>yes. Since you have to mix legumes proteins with cereals in order to have a complete proteic profile you mix them in your meal.
That an anachronistic line of thinking from an outdated book written in the 70s.
https://medium.com/tenderlymag/busting-the-myth-of-incomplete-plant-based-proteins-960428e7e91e
As long as you aren't eating exclusively nuts or vegan junk food a vegan diet is idiot-proof as far as getting in your RDI of essential amino acids.

>>15243466
>Like most vegans. You are just kind of an asshole and no one likes you because you are an insufferable, pissy bitch who can't comprehend people living a different lifestyle than you.

>>15243560

>>15243566
eaten strictly by meatcucks heheh..

>>15243569

>>15243589
most consoomers are gates brainwashed meatcucks yes

>>15243603

>>15242140
You will look like a skeleton with you teeth and hair falling out in a few years, much like something you would see in the lord of the rings lurking about trying to recover a magical ring....

Just do me a favor, do not reproduce, do not force your retarded beliefs on children, I don't give a fuck what you choose to eat or not eat just don't shove that crap down kids lives!

There is nothing more disguting then reading a news of a vegan couple being charged with murder for their under nourished baby.

>>15242052
Its not just beans we never get sick of eating

>>15243608
lol is this supposed to upset me, all meatcucks are eating this lol

>>15243566
Checked made this 4 u

>>15243631
We're leading a community wide effort to decolonize by sterilizing all white people

>>15242827
just because vegans don't have sosij fatass hands because they eat healthy doesn't mean they're frail, fatty
post body

>>15242140
I don't eat meat but fuck this guy

>>15243683
Why are meat eaters eating foods marketed towards vegans?

If you're a "meatcuck" then why would you eat fake meat?

>>15243689
That is retarded son, but I don't give a shit what you do in your own country, so go ahead and kill yourselves if you want, but don't shove your retarded ideology into the minds of young children.

I personally believe veganism to be a form of mental illness of the same class as other food disorders like bulimia, anorexia, stress eating, pick pallate disorder and other such mental illnesses.

So yeah, by extension I also don't think you are qualified to vote, drive a car, sign documents under your own name or have power of attorney over yourself, so I guess I should just treat you like an autistical child.

>>15242052
Don't you ever get sick of chili? That's what you get when you put beans in chili. Essentially beans every day.

>>15242052
I never get sick of beans but i eat them with meat.

>>15243686

>>15243773
As a novelty? An alternative to endless meat consumption? Do you think billions in market growth is from vegans alone?

Vegans are surplus humans with no prefrontal cortex. They don't get sick of eating beans because they don't actually experience emotions the way normal people do. They're NPCs.

>>15243799
>WAAAH WAAAH WAAAH
You sound like a nonce. You'll be lynched like the rest of the bourgeoisie

>>15243816
idk I sure as shit don't eat that garbage

>Vegans are surplus humans with no prefrontal cortex. They don't get sick of eating beans because they don't actually experience emotions the way normal people do. They're NPCs

>>15243828
>I AM THE WORLD!!!

Do you think everyone else is an ugly virgin too?

>>15243822

>>15243836
Are you talking about yourself? I haven't been a virgin since my teens, bro.

>>15243836
Vegans practice sodomy so unless you are referring to anal virginity then you are wrong good sir.

>>15243845
>Are you talking about yourself???

>>15243822
>You sound like a nonce. You'll be lynched like the rest of the bourgeoisie
Mate, you can't even prevent your teeth from falling off on their own, you honestly think your brittle bones and fragile wimpy musculature is in any position to lynch someone that has strong bones thanks to all the calcium from the dairy we consume and the well developed musculature from all the protein we get from meats, eggs and dairy? You ever even punched someone before?

You should take a look at yourself in the mirror, you need a reality check.

>>15243853
>Vegans practice sodomy so unless you are referring to anal virginity then you are wrong good sir.

>>15243862
Don't you think because biden won that mayyybbbbee meat eaters voted for him?

>>15243860
Lol nobody is reading this you schizophrenic loser.

BABY NEED A BOTTLE?

>>15243867
I read it :3
Do you need something for your sore bootyhole?
Is this vegan?

>>15243867
Yeah, go back to living in denial man, it must be confy in that happy place inside your mind.

That said, can you at least cook something that tastes good? Like an actual dish and not just rice and beans on side? I don't really care about your ideals and retardation, but the fact is that most vegans don't even know how to cook basic food, so what exactly can YOU cook? Give us an example.

>>15242052
i went vegan for a month as a bet and it wasn't that bad. you can honestly do a lot with regular food that happens to be vegan without trying and the vegan alternatives like picrel are pretty good.
the beyond meat is decent. obviously it isn't close to ground beef but tastes pretty good if you season it well.

>>15243891

>>15243817
>questioning the status quo and not merely just adopting the attidudes of everyone around you makes you an automoton

>>15243866
Biden is a fascist. I do not participate in the performance theater of electoralism.

>>15243897
Am I to assume that you can't actually cook anything decent to show us? This is the food and cooking board, can you seriously not defend veganism by posting tasty looking vegan food that we would consider eating?

>>15243892
I actually prefer midrange vegan burgers to Beyond. Beyond meat tries to imitate ligaments.

>>15243913

>>15243901
Okay but you do realize just because someone eats meat doesn't really say anything about their political affiliation, right?

>>15243913
Do you really think a vegan on the cooking board can actually cook? They just cry and yell at people who don't eat like them.
Many of them have antisocial personality disorders, probably exasperated by nutrient deficiencies. Just look at vegan gains. He wants to murder babies.

>>15243926

>>15243937
>samefagging

>>15243916
i never found it to be too chewy or "ligamenty" but it definitely doesn't have the same mouth feel as traditional ground beef.
i feel like for now midrange options like bean/mushroom are better than beyond/impossible/that other brand at the moment, but that's mainly due to the fact that people have had more time to perfect bean/mushroom burgers and meat alternatives like beyond have been on the market for a fairly short amount of time.

>>15243937
Project harder. Go ahead and make a neutral vegan thread. It will only draw unaware faggots like you who can't tolerate differences in lifestyle while also claiming it's vegans who are intolerant.

This thread started off as neutral. All the augmentative vegan posts are replies to kneejerk anti-vegan vitriol.

>>15243937
I see, so he truly is mentally ill, and not just with a minor mental illness like a food disorder but some order serious mental issues, I feel kind of bad for him now, might be an actual schizo or something.

>>15244040
If you really want to have neutral vegan threads maybe you should go to reddit or something?

On a place like 4 chan where people can actually speak their mind without getting banned the truth is going to rear it's ugly head; no one likes vegans. Shit, even vegans hate eachother.

>>15242227
the first study is about an exclusionary diet, the second one is about fat americans

>>15244057
Yeah I have a vegan in my family who is just like this. It's pretty sad. They were fucked up since they were born. Just a really bad person. I think they become self aware of how they are awful but instead of being kind to people they try to compensate for their lack of empathy by not eating animal products.

>>15244090
>i speaka da troof
>imply
vegans are counterculture as is most of 4chan
hating on them is reddit
denying this will show just how much of a redditar you are

>>15244090
have you ever considered that your hatred for vegans could come from the fact that what they do forces you to consider your own moral/ethical values and how animal consumption plays into that?

a simple question thread turned into a "buuuuh vegans bad" circlejerk reddit style. maybe there's a reason for that

>>15244090
>moving the goalposts
I never said I wanted a neutral thread. I only pointed out your lack self-awareness in criticizing intolerance. It's ironic you should tell me to go to Reddit.

>>15242140
>Omnis are the ones who get offended and angry when you point out that they are babies who can't live a altruistic lifestyle

>>15243758
Save your energy, you're just going to tire yourself out if you keep posting.

>>15244157
>a bloo bloo bloo
Cringe

>>15244134
Nah man. It more has to do with the fact that I've made up my mind about animals dying and killing animals for food, and I'd rather not have animal torture porn shoved in my face 24/7. I am more than aware of what goes on in industrial ag, and I have slaughtered and butchered my own animals for food. Vegans act like idk something bad is going to happen but it doesn't. I didn't go to hell, I didn't have nightmares, I don't even feel guilty. If anything, killing an animal for food makes me feel less guilty than killing a pest or accidentally squishing a spider or hitting an animal with my car. I raised the animal from when it was a baby, and it served its purpose. I don't think I can explain it to someone as closed minded and as disconnected from their food and death as you.

I don't like factory farming, and so I'm raising my own animals for food. It pisses you vegans off, and I don't understand. Don't you want a better life for domestic animals? Don't you want less people supporting factory farming? You know deep down the whole world will NEVER go vegan. So why can't you just accept it?

>>15244292
more energy stronger boners longer life better sex fitter body higher test
stay seething meatcuck

>>15243037
Lots of death happens in farming you just dont give a fuck about the bugs or the “pest” animals, huh?

>>15242140
>vegan is so malnourished he can't even read
not helping your case bud.

No beans are awesome t. vegan for years

>>15243899
>questioning the status quo
Your "resistance" is backed by dozen of multinational corporations. You are the status quo. Bot.

empathy is a shite argument to go vegan considering pesticide farming creates suffering orders of magnitude greater than the meat industry
if you don't like meat don't eat it but don't be a faggot about it

>>15242052
I am not vegan, and I choose to eat beans 2-3 times a week. Beans are great.

>>15242052
Not really no. I am not vegan anymore but not because it hard to stay that way, taco bell killed my menu choices. Its also cheaper to eat meat...
Vegan food is pretty good though. Its also easier to make vegan food and tastes better in my opinion for the most part.
Not to mention the health benefits.
Thanks for listening to my ted talk homos.

The only thing worse than vegans are Anti vegans.

>>15242140
>I don't get sick from beans

no one is asking if you get physically ill you fucking retard. Eat some iron and a b12 tablet and maybe your ability to read will grow back.

>>15242140
>post about how omnis seethe
>omnis seethe
based

How about all you niggers shut the fuck up and eat what you want. Meat eaters kill animals to eat and vegans bitch about it from iPhones that they get from Chinese slavery. No one is clean and the only healthy thing to do is not be a fat fuck

>>15242168
Not in normal countries, no. The normal thing is to get what you need from the food you eat. It's people that eat like shit that need them. (What they really need is to change their diet).

>>15245214
Mmm, the health benefits of deep fried potato. Vegan food is so healthy.

>>15242995
I find this the most offensive thing in this thread.
What kind of fucking retard would do beans on plate with a side of toast?

>>15245779
Mmm, the health benefits of dog shit, meatcuck food is so healthy!

>>15246024
>he doesn't know his herbivorous ancestors ate shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsPAgZxXBmU&ab_channel=TheBundlieBrothers

>>15243862
I voted for Biden and don't eat meat. Keep seething vegan faggot. Us normal folk don't like you.

>>15245775
You must be one of those flyovers

>>15246377
>normal folk

>voted Biden
nice try tranny pedo

>>15246377
>normal
>doesn't eat meat
Pick one.

>>15242674
yeah this

Every time someone mentions veganism and vegetarianism my two coworkers in the past come to my mind. Both of them had a beergut with minimal musclemass and were exhausted from 3 hours of physical activity. One had to go to sleep immediately when he got home, and the other one had a slower brain activity, he legit had a hard time understanding certain things. Both chugged down sugary drinks, a fuckload of coffee and sweets every day. Both of them were lazy as shit too and would perform any task slower than anyone else. Not to mention their skin had noticeable yellowish tint.

>>15242052

Or the gas it gives you.

>>15246773
I had a vegan coworker. He was an okay guy, but he was missing a bunch of teeth and had shit energy. I am a pretty small female, not super intense athlete (but not out of shape either) and one time we were both biking the same route home and I raced him for the fun of it and I wiped the floor with him. He got exhausted after just a few seconds. I am not a fast or intense biker, have a hand me down mountain bike, and I wasn't even going full speed.

Most vegans and vegetarians I meet have little to no energy and health issues.

I do not want people suffering for a bunch of cows and chickens. Support local small holistic farms with small, on site abattoirs if factory farming bothers you.

>>15246835
>shit i made up
>femanon btw
not worth the read, stopped quarter way through

>>15247447
Got tired reading, tuckered himself out the little guy.

>>15242995
isn't this the bitch who would mash every food she eats?

>>15245195
This post is brought to you by JBS, Tyson Foods, Cargill and Smithfield with a combined sales of over 200 billion a year.

>>15244112
This

>another vegan Thread
Also i don't Care about animal's Feelings. That's Just the way Nature works. Vegans are hirrendously gay, and so is Everbody in this Thread too.

>>15242945
>+2 Snacks, Like you should
Is this nigga serious?
No, No you shouldn't eat 2 Snacks besides your 3 meals

>>15242995
Is that Jim sterling?

>>15247447
Damn, a vegan incel.
Not a good combo. At least my coworker had a wife and kids.

>>15247639
Herbivores have to eat all day.

Meanwhile carnivore psychos like the snake diet fag eats once a week.

>>15247639
nice try snake, but humans should consume 3 meals + 2 snacks a day

>>15248207
>nice try snake, but humans should consume 3 meals + 2 snacks a day

>>15243337
Smh tempeh is soy beans fused together and seitan is sponge textured gluten and is the result or washing dough with water until all the starch washes out. You are telling me you replace beans with beans and gluten.

Not a vegan but won't ever get sick of eating beans

>>15242052
My wife tried to be vegan and it proved so many fucking entitlement holes in the diet.

I talked her down to being mostly vegetarian and eating fish. Because I pointed out how much money it was costing to sustain such a retarded diet. Not to mention it's a peak western diet where you rely on processed foods and stores to be fully stocked in specific shit.

>>15248213
6' x 170 pound, maybe you should check your metabolism, genelet

these niggas eatin' beans

>>15248594
>rice and beans is peak western processed foods

>not going up to a Bezos Foods and ordering Japanese beef stored in a cooler

Kek

>>15243937
*exacerbated

>>15248992
sexassmasturbated

>2020
>being Vegan

In The Elder Scrolls, the wood elves aren't allowed to eat any vegetation because they made a oath with the forest deity Y'ffre. You fucking vegans are killing the plants. Plants have souls too you heartless apes.

>>15249061
*sexassturbated

>>15242052
I'm vegan and I avoid beans, because I can't digest them properly.
>>15248594
Healthy veganism is possible without buying tons of expensive processed junk.
I just get pea protein powder, fortified breakfast cereal, fortified oat drink. Those are the only processed foods I need to cover nutrients I'd be missing from normal vegan food. The rest of my meals are normal recipes with non vegan ingredients omitted or substituted. No disgusting processed fake meat in my diet.

>>15249087
>in the elder scrolls

>>15249131
Plant eating murder machine, fucking neck yourself.

>>15249143
Based forest fren

>>15249117
>I just get pea protein powder, fortified breakfast cereal, fortified oat drink. Those are the only processed foods I need to cover nutrients I'd be missing from normal vegan food. The rest of my meals are normal recipes with non vegan ingredients omitted or substituted. No disgusting processed fake meat in my diet.

This just proves my point...

>>15242144
most vegans take B-12 injections, not pills

>>15249831
They're cheaper than meat. My diet is cheaper, healthier, less processed than most omnivores.

Bean burritos are my soul food.

>>15249839
That's not any better.

>>15249866
It is if you don't eat meat

>>15249866
You're replying like you're taking the toll's obvious falsehood seriously.

>>15249861
>pea protein powder, fortified breakfast cereal, fortified oat drink.
>cheaper, healthier, less processed
Well, if it lets you sleep at night, sure lets pretend it's so.

>>15249861
A whole chicken can provide more nutrients and calories than probably half a weeks worth of vegan food.

How much does a whole chicken cost? Plus you can make soup from the bones.

Dollar for dollar, pound per pound of biomass a chicken is far more economically better than a vegan diet.

>>15249876
Are you low T? Only actual reasonable way you could be such a passive aggressive little bitch. Or you really are so fragile you get offended so easily. Only thing truly "processed" there is the protein powder. Its all completely healthy and pretty cheap. I can't imagine what oats and cereals you're buying that are expensive and unhealthy.

>>15249886
Rice and beans are dirt cheap. Dirt.

>>15249901
Lotta projection on your part here. Maybe calm down a little before you hit "post"?

>>15242402
not your mom she suckin my beans rn fagget :^)

>>15249912
Chicken farming is dirt cheap too. They literally eat dirt don't you know?

>>15249927
Just proved my point again. Nice deflection btw.

>>15249933
Has Adam Ragusea made a video about this?

>>15249947
How to fuck your mom:
>First, we need to start with a bottle of white wine...

>>15249941
Rice farming is even cheaper, you literally need to put it in dirt

>>15249912
I can't eat beans they give me heartburn

Veganism is a secondary result of the industrial revolution; people no longer raise and slaughter their own animals and are removed from seeing death which our ancestors experienced on a daily basis. Seeing death in person becomes shocking and the mind isn’t able to cope with what is a part of life. Because of this and anthropomorphism in children’s show this generation is unable to be predatory. None of this is natural.

>>15249960
Then you gotta flood it. Then you gotta unleash an army of ducks onto it so pests don't eat it because if you use chemical pesticides and artificial fertilizers you will fuck up our water system. Then after harvesting and threshing and processing you gotta import it because there is very little rice grown in the west. Most of it is grown in southeast asia or india.

>>15249960
>>15249992
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3N6BG9owwk&ab_channel=SouthChinaMorningPost
Ducks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5NTgZA-xWE&ab_channel=SneakyLikeASnek

>>15249998
sorry one more for good measure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttN0MRwjYzE&ab_channel=thatsideofutube2
Vegans cannot defeat the waterfowl army.

>>15249886
If your idea of "vegan food" is that half a week's worth of it is less nutritious than a chicken, then you've simply imagined up terribly unnutritious vegan meals for your comparison. I think you have a misconception about what vegan meals look like. Just because you can imagine up a vegan diet that is unhealthy, that doesn't make all vegan diets unhealthy. in the same way just because thereare people who eat junk food all the time, that doesn't mean all omnivorous diets are unhealthy.
Cost comparison: I'm skeptical that chicken is more economical, but I won't rule it out.
Yes, directly consuming other animal flesh is more efficient in terms of biomass than digesting nutrients from most plant sources. But what's the point of that comparison?

>>15249986
>the result of human actions and experiences isnt natural

Is life even real then? Are we figments of our own imagination only as real as we myopically depict it to be?

>>15250030
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWChH9MHkHg&t=375s&ab_channel=JustinRhodes
Uh oh. Chickens can eat literal garbage.

Unless you wanna feed the world on compost?

>>15250050
what else do you know of that gets nutrition from compost? connect the dots for me

>>15250067
Yeah but the chickens turn the compost and shit in it, making it more nutrient rich and less labor intensive AND making delicious eggs.

Sorry vegan, looks like animals ARE important.

>>15249986
Good.
It's something that developed organically by the process you described. Just because something's not natural doesn't make it bad.
But I have to disagree with some of what you said- There is a lot of violent content on the Internet, television, video games. So much so that older generations have/are trying to ban violent content in the media. But the general trend has been pushing the boundaries more and more towards violence.

>>15250084
this is retarded from a biological perspective man
the chickens eat compost, digest it to fuel their little chicken lives, and then shit out what their bodies cant use

the chicken is the point in the chain where energy and nutrition are being lost

you can make the point that adding poultry manure to low quality soil is good for adding plant nutrients, but they have to come from somewhere (things that the chicken eats) and loss is unavoidable because the chicken uses them to be alive

there are arguments for eating meat but efficiency is not one of them

>>15250107
Dude, you are just disagreeing to disagree. Just accept that people have been using livestock to add fertility for thousands of years. Part of the reason people in India worship the cow is because of her ability to turn grass into fertilizer, fuel and milk, they even have shit cakes for religious purposes.

Chicken manure is rich in nitrogen, and the feathers they constantly molt are rich in phosphorous, these are nutrients we are mining out of the ground and absolutely destroying the environment for.

Like, jesus, don't you know anything about agriculture other than factory farms=bad?

>>15250141
youre just sidestepping what i said.

i know chicken manure has nitrogen and phosphorous in it. do you think the chickens just synthesize it out of thin air?
it comes from their diet. the nutrients in chicken shit are all present in their feed, which can be made agriculturally available (with less nutrient and energy waste) through regular composting

its just basic biology that energy and nutrients are lost as you go further up a food chain. thats why ecosystems can only support so many degrees of removal from plants. on a large scale, relying on animal based fertilizer is less efficient. you can say that there are other benefits to putting that waste to use, but thats not what youve been saying

>>15250107
Animals turn literal garbage into high quality food.

What would you do with all that waste if you don't upcycle it into food? And how would you make up for that loss in the human food supply?

>>15242140
lol you triggered a lot of manbabies with this one

>>15250198
and exactly what do u think chickens are eating? they are eating bugs and seeds... bugs and seeds which grow and occur naturall in the compost. they are not literally eating the compost. retard.

the compost attracts bugs, bugs eat the compost, the chicken eats the bugs. ita a net positive.

compost has seeds, unless you are heating your compost it will have seeds. when you lay down ur compost with seeds. the seeds will destroy your garden. chickens eat and digest the seeds, making them less likely to germinate in your garden where they arent wanted.

god ur fucjin stupud.

signed
someone whose family has been farming over 80 years over 3 generations of family

>>15250247
Based farmer anon.
I'm just a newbie homesteader who fled from the shitty city, but I have mad respect for farmers. Like holy shit you guys feed so many ungrateful mouths. Thank you for your hard work. I have a lot to learn from you guys.

>>15250211
this is a tricky image
we are not feeding animals trash. we're growing food specifically for them

no, humans cant eat livestock feed. the issue with that is that a huge portion of our agricultural output is being put towards plants that humans specifically cant eat.

so if roughly 75% of our agriculture output is being used to grow things that humans can not eat and livestock can, the question isnt just "what if we just kept growing that stuff and didnt feed it to animals", it's "what if we started growing crops with higher edible yields"

theres nothing in animal based fertilizers that cant be gotten more efficiently through natural or chemical processes

>>15250247
compost reaches a temperature that kills pest bugs on its own

and stray seeds in your garden dont ruin shit. theyre just weeds that you pull or spray. they get in there through the wind or the rain anyway. its not like chickens are some kind of perfect predator

anyway, this is completely not related to anything i said at all, you fucking dope

>>15250264
Dude artificial fertilizer is unsustainable as hell.

Also the crops we grow for livestock feed are also grown to feed humans. Annuals, conr, soy, canola, etc get turned into ethanol and oil, and the byproduct, of which there is like well over 75% by weight, goes to animal feed. Especially if you're talking about something big like a cow.
Look at the supermarket, look at how much shit has corn, canola, and soy in it. It's incredible. Every single oil seed product comes with a ton of oil cake.
Did you know it takes 5 lbs of sunflower seeds to make a quarter cup of oil? What do you think the rest of that shit is good for?

>>15250292
Hey just wondering what your experience is growing anything? Like, what is your background in agriculture?

>>15250305
i shit in your begonias if that counts
get out of here with your "lol i bet youve never even SEEN a plant" shit and try to make a cogent point, retard
>>15250301
if 75% of a plant is used to make animal feed, wouldnt it be more accurate to say the oil is the byproduct?
big food companies use whatever oil is cheapest for them, which, due to subsidies and economies of scale, is oil made from agriculture crops.
were not growing all that soy because soy oil has some kind of special food property and the tons of livestock feed are just a happy coincidence

>>15250337
Most people grow crops to sell it to people. And you make a lot more money if you can sell it to people instead of livestock farmers.
For example, you can sell a 1000+ bale of kale to a sheep farmer to 10 bucks, or you can sell 1 lb of kale to stupid hippies who are too retarded to grow one of the easiest to grow crops in the world for 10 bucks.

I'm not vegan but I eat mostly beans for protein cause they are cheap. You can just spice and sauce them differently and you can get a decent variety for your meals.

>>15250292
wrong. i dont believe you are aware how composting works. theres cold composting and hot composting.

both can use bugs and worms to breakdown waste. especially cold compost, which is what your compost would be if you leave it on the floor for chickens and not in a confined space where you are constantly turning it every day.
bugs and worms love compost whether its hot or cold.

research the soldier flies use in modern composting of protein rich waste.

i have to ask if u even compost. its very apparant you dont. as soon as you open your compost youll find bugs gnats soldier flies and worms. hot composting doesnt heat compost past 180degrees usually and thats limited to the very center mass of the compost bin. bugs love warmth and have survived apocalypses. ur not nuking them out of a hot compost. just controlling them and forcing them to the bearable area of heat.

why the fuck do u think bugs exist in the summer and not winter. why do u think bugs are more common in hot climates.

signed someone whos family has been farming 80 years On BOTH sides... with over 3 generations if knowledge passed.

Furthermore, common house compost is mostly yard waste, branches grass leaves and house scraps/ wood ash

>>15250292
go garden for 3 years with compost. you will find out how stupid your opinion is.
youll never get bugs out of ur compost... ever. they are attracted to the waste. and the best thing u can have in ur homes compost is worms who arent afraid of moist heat and actually prefer hanging around the outskirts of bearable sides of the heat between 60-90 degrees.

jlaslty just cuz wind blows seeds into your garden... doesnt mean they are okay to be there. and if u hust throw conpost in ur garden with seeds in it your garden will be overrun. you are making yourself do more work.
leave the conpost for the bygs worms and chickens and u will do less work and reap more rewards.
my personal garden rarerly needs to be deweeded. the chickens do a great job eating the unwanted seeds and bugs and thier stomping around helps mix the compost

>>15243122
Thats pretty fucking based anon, keep it up. Being more local with your food is always a plus.

>>15242052
lmao, they're just beans bro. Do you get sick of eating rice?

>>15242052
not vegan but I'm a poorfag that loves beans. I eat beans like everyday, it's cheap and delicious and protein and rice + beans is a surprisingly nutritious diet by itself.

>>15244090
>the truth is going to rear it's ugly head
ironic

>>15242595
... You do not require 50g of protein per day - not even arnold needed that much. Peak arnold needed 44grams per day.

>>15242960
Are we talking grams on plate or grams absorbed, because you'd need way more to abdorb that much, not that nirmal people would need to.

>>15251352
>source: my ass

>>15242140
Aint no one offended, just living rent free in your head. Sorry we dont make excluding foods our whole aesthetic

>>15242140
>>15245478
>>15250235
>When you're smug about sniffing your own farts

>>15242052
I'm pure veg and I eat a shit load of beans.
Today falafel and chickpea salad, yesterday was a disaster with half cooked black beans, the day before was tofu day.

Beans, nuts and seeds are all fairly important for your diet- meat really isn't

>>15250264
No, animals eat literal garbage. They turn waste into food. That is a major efficiency improvement. Animals can also forage on land where crops can't be grown. And they do it without clear cutting and killing everything like vegan crop agriculture does.

Despite vegans constantly lying about this, I have never seen a vegan restaurant serving oil seed cakes or crop residues.

Veganism is completely phony. Vegans don't care about facts or reality or results. It is a fashion.

Real vegans eat grass fed beef.

>>15248207
IT hast Bern proven many Times, that restricting your calories in fewer meals lead to a longer and in some ways healthier Life. Fuck you you stupid fuck.
And no, im Not spoonfeeding you. Look IT Up yourself, fucking degenerate.

>>15247891
K, but Not herbivores, neither are we carnivores

I left my chickpeas rehydrating for two days because I was stoned.

Can I still eat them?
I changed the water a few times, they didn't sprout which I thought was strange

No, beans are awesome.

>>15251481
How tf a vegan gonna fuck up beans?
I can't even eat beans because they make me sick and I never undercook them (I make them for other people)

Also you are pretty retarded to think something many people can't eat without digestive problems or worse is important for your diet.

im vegan, and i have a neat trick to not getting sick of eating beans. i don't eat beans every day

>>15251914
>How tf a vegan gonna fuck up beans?
I told you, I was stoned and forgot I was soaking them.
>I can't even eat beans because they make me sick
Do you re-hydrate them?
There are a few oddities to cooking beans.
A. you have to boil them to break down certain toxins, notably red kidney and cannelini beans- simmering them from a long time is NOT sufficient
B. it's best to drain the liquid from canned beans, it's full of starches that will cause digestive issues
>you are pretty retarded to think something many people can't eat without digestive problems
If you cannot eat normal food, it is natures way of telling you to die.
Allergies and food intolerance are a direct result of weakening of natural selection

>>15252018
>Do you re-hydrate them?
I only cook dried beans. Canned beans are gross. And no shit I soak them. I'm the only one who gets heartburn from eating them. And it doesn't matter what kind, black, kidney, white, pinto. It gives me heartburn.
>If you cannot eat normal food, it is natures way of telling you to die.
Says a vegan.

Sorry not everyone loves shitty undercooked toxic beans.

>>15242140
>altruistic lifestyle

I just wanted to let you all know, whenever I have to cook vegan alternatives of the dishes, I not only use the same grill as the meat, I make a point to rub as much meat fat from the grill
I can scrap into the food as to make it delicious.

So far we have had a huge clientele of vegans and vegetarians and they all love my mysterious "special sauce".

>>15253479
Now that is a restaurant I would risk covid for

>>15253488
>Now that is a restaurant I would risk covid for
I know, right? We always make sure to go that extra mile for our beloved customers!

>>15242052
I love eating beans on top of my 100% beef burger.

>>15253479
:)

>>15242140
>altruistic lifestyle
lmao eat a dick faggot

>>15242052
>implying it's really serving beans without porkfat

>>15242052
vegan girls got the biggest braps

>>15243122
You and every other carnist on fourchan, buddy. I’d like to see 1 (one) of you disingenuous fucks actually post proof.

>>15242052
Thats why they either eat bad or are fed up. As long as your diet is diverse it should be fine

>>15250301
>>15250337
Why haven't we been utilizing human waste as fertilizer instead of just flushing it away. Serious question.

>>15254951
Here are my ducks :3
I'm gonna get cows and goats and chickens and pigs and shit soon.
>>15255884
Humanure is kind of a tricky subject. I have looked deeply into it. Human shit is very different from animal shit. I have wild animals shit all over my property and I never smell it. Even my livestock shit doesn't stink much (I don't allow it to stink because I manage it with deep bedding or pasture rotation)
Human shit REALLY fucking stinks and has a very distinct smell. My neighbor has hunters on his property and one of them fucking shit without burying it and you could smell it for a mile for hours on a cold day. It was insane.

Human feces tends to have a lot of pathogens, and these pathogens are very communicable to other humans, even more so than animal to human pathogens. So humanure needs to be extensively processed before turned into compost. One thing I want to do is have an outhouse and when it is filled with waste and sawdust I'd probably plant a high value wood or slow growing nut tree.

Human shit in the city is pretty gross. City tap water is treated human shit water.

I'm a Buddhist interested in a vegetarian diet for spiritual wellbeing. Any books or guides for cooking vegetarian for a novice cook?

>>15242140
make 'em seethe, brother

>>15242052
can you imagine the stinky vinegary braps and sharts and shits that bean-munching vegans must constantly be experiencing? oh godddd.........

>>15242052
I'm not vegan and I eat beans almost every day for the past 5 years. Idk they're cheap, filling and nutritious and you can do whatever you want with them really.

>>15251352
>>15242887
>Let's say you are 80kg and do sport 3 times a week, then you need 65g of proteins.
> You do not require 50g of protein per day - not even arnold needed that much. Peak arnold needed 44grams per day.
Lol
1 litre skimmed milk has 34g protein. That means peak Arnold only needed 2 of this for his entire day of protein need.
Lmao.

>>15243608
This looks like two realy healthy turds kek

>>15242140
We get it, you're sexually attracted to animals but you don't want to get caught fucking them