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Banko Gotiti, Ethiopia edition

>What are ya drinking
>Where's it from
>How'd you brew it
Previous thread >>15122874

>> No.15184603

Pilon because i havent seen cafe bustelo in a while.

>> No.15184645
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>>15184595
y'all are a bunch of faggots. /ctg/ is for losers.

>> No.15184900

What's Indian coffee like? Just realised I've never seen any in my local roaster's.

>> No.15184939
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15184939

should I get an aeropress

>> No.15184943

>>15184939
No. They're junk.

>> No.15185086

I'm getting more of a seared bite on the Aeropress, than I'm getting on the actual V Six- no no no no no no no no.... No please don't say that no no no... No. Nonononono. No no nono no no. NONO NO NONO NO NO NOOOOO. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm not gonna trip. I wanted to come in a 100% hater.

I'mma tell you off the top. I wanted to take a sip of this and be like 'ehhh nah nah it don't it it'- I'mma just flat out say it; your Aeropress /ck/, IS BETTER THAN YOUR ACTUAL V SIXTY /CK/. YOUR AEROPRESS /CK/ IS BETTER THAN YOUR ACTUAL V SIXTY /CK/. IT HAS A MORE SEARED TASTE.

IT'S MORE OF A BREWOUT FLEX. IT JUST TASTES BETTER. Get over here. You get back in the cabinet. /ck/. That sip is so flavorful my m- and the fact that it works so well, it literally compliments the aroma. Like I'm not even mad that I'm sippin' up, and I'm not even mad, that I'm sipping coffee right now with my breakfast.

You can really taste the chocolate notes because the sear, on this press based situation right here, it's so strong and you barely get nutty notes but the notes are there so you get a crunch off it, with soft fruity action with BPA? /CK/, YOU'RE ONTO SOMETHING, AND I LIKE WHERE YOU, YOU GOIN' /CK/, THE AEROPRESS COFFEE SON!

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>>15185086
You forgot to take these today, anon.

>> No.15185318

>>15184939
yes

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15185331

this has been our daily-drinker for the pot as of late
need to do an instacart order but can't think of any recipes for the week so i'm pissing around looking up recipes

>> No.15185634

>>15184939
Bottomtiertrash. A stones throw away from keurig.

>> No.15185959

>>15185634
>can't actually articulate why AeroPress is bad

>> No.15185984

>>15185086
Is this a copypasta?

>> No.15186134

>>15184603
Cafe Llave is a better replacement. Pilon is extreme robusta.

>> No.15186186

>>15185984
It has been around for a while.

>> No.15186282
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Any home roasters?

>> No.15186915

>>15184900
Sweet and with milk

>> No.15186940

>>15184939
yes. I don't understand why anyone would think it's shit tier - if you have good beans that you grind fresh it's breddy gud. I'd go with a chemex or regular pour-over though, depends what you already have and what you want.

>> No.15186966
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>>15186282
Is home roasting hard?

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>>15186966
Nope, but there are some things I pay close attention to so I don't overroast though. I turn off my heat before I reach my ideal roast but keep the stirrer on, even with the heat off, the beans will still be roasting until everything cools down. The stirrer will make sure the roast is even even when its cooling down. Or you could just dump the beans out of the roaster as soon as it's the roast level you want. You can get a roaster for $130 from amazon.

>> No.15187413

>>15186966
Buy a $20 popper from sweet marias.

>> No.15187549

For me, it's Folgers out of cheap drip coffee maker.

I drink at least 5 cups a day.

>> No.15188279

>>15184939
nooooo don't do it it'll bankrupt you and turn you into a fricken tranny

>> No.15188920
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This coffee maker is so fucking stupid but I love it.

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can i use one of these to grind beans?
im not looking for espresso grinds but something better for moka pots than instant

>> No.15188973

>>15188957
you’ll do well to find yourself a proper burr grinder, even a hand operated one

>> No.15188975

>>15188920
envy inducing cozy levels here anon

>> No.15189523

>>15184939
Get it and try it. It's not for you, it's not for you. $30 for a brew kit that includes filters is the most I'd probably pay.

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Piccolo
https://whitehorsecoffee.com.au/blog/2017/08/make-enjoy-piccolo-latte/

>>15184595
Are they grading coffee beans?

>> No.15190594

Coofs

>> No.15191006

>>15188920
What is this

>> No.15191014
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got pic related some months ago, start most mornings with a couple of espressos since then.
what booze is worth trying with an espresso? ive tried amaretto, some nut sirups and caramel; nuts were meh, caramel only worked if drowned in like 300ml milk with two espressos and amaretto was nice, but despite being an alcoholic i preferred the booze free syrup to normal amaretto.

>> No.15191021

>>15191014
how do you find the 'automatic' espresso machines to be? for only an extra $300-400 over a conventional espresso machine we're seriously considering buying one of the phillips ones they seem breddy based

have you tried amaretto and cognac with espresso, along with some cream & almonds? not sure of the name, but combining the cognac and amaretto brings on a new body

>> No.15191052

>>15191006
>>15188920
Nevermind I figured it out (bripe), but does it actually make good coffee?

>> No.15191077

>>15191021
cognac sounds like a solid idea ive heard of before i think, thanks.
by automatic i assume you mean the kind i use, not the proper espresso machines that have an inbuilt grinder - im not a coffee expert, but before this thing i never drank much coffee because of the cleanup and prep bother in the morning.
i can only compare the taste to an espresso stove boiler + cheapo grinder and the result is absolutely the same or better, largely depending on beans. ive had multiple normalfags tell me even the weakest espresso it makes is very strong, but over the last ten years i barely killed 2kg coffee and then went through 3kg in 4 months now, zero issues with max strength min water.
the cleaning is not too bad, i stick to the advised 1x a week with my weekly 2 cups use - just dump it into the sink, water on and a light brushing, then there it stands to dry.
volume is Bad, my ear pro lives on top of the machine and i never use it without.
startup is like 90s, shutdown 20ish. one espresso around 40s i guess.
milk foam works fine, but i dont care for milk outside the caramel milk thingey.

i bought mine for €200 on a sale and would recommend it to those who like espressos. not sure you want to go straight for the expensive models with zero xp, im struggling to imagine what could be greatly improved over my cheapo base model.

>> No.15191107

>>15191077
holy christ that's literally 1/3 the prices we've been looking at gonna sit around for a sale to even consider that lmao, will DEFINITELY be looking into this if we can snag it anywhere near that
appreciate the heads up on volume, thought something was off with all the big-name reviewers literally not running the machine on camera but i found some videos and it's definitely noisy
much appreciated info anon cheers

>> No.15191129

>>15184595
Solimo Amazon brand coffee
Who knows
It's a keurig pod. I pour a little original coffee mate thing into the cup, then let the coffee mix it together as it's brewed.

>> No.15191145

>>15188957
it's a pretty terrible idea, no matter what brew you're doing evenness of grounds is one of the most important variables

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>>15191107
camera wouldnt pick it up, volume normalization.
EP1222/00 is mine, i dont think muricah pricing ought to be that different - all the computer hw you get for about 30% cheaper on average.
415g can of beans for size, dirty cup for the drip after use so i dont have to clean out the majority of coffee drippings from the bottom tray.
i also spent 40 on offbrand machine cleaner tabs and decalc liquid and that will last me at least ten years.

>> No.15191322

Hello CTG, what should I get (ask for) for Christmas?

Generally I only make coffee on Saturdays and Sundays at home, but ever since quarantine I work from home so I have been making a lot of coffee lately. I have a nice electric kettle, a (knockoff) hario skerton grinder, and a french press.
I've been thinking about:
>electric burr grinder
Not sure this is worth the money due to if/when I go back to work. Grinding 40g of coffee every day like I am now is annoying but ultimately not a big deal
>moka pot
>aeropress
>pour over kit
I can't think of anything else I would need.

>> No.15191385

>>15191322
Get a kinu.

>> No.15191402

>>15191322
Premium beans

>> No.15191628
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>>15191052
Yes! It's silly, and looks like something for hard drugs moreso than for coffee, but it actually makes really good coffee.
I'd describe the final product as very similar to Turkish coffee.

>> No.15191649

>>15191628
This is so retarded, but now I need one.

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15192161

What's the best steep and release brewer?

>> No.15192234

>>15192161
Clever

>> No.15192374
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15192374

>>15192161
V60 Switch

>>15192234
Eh, the filters for it aren't really great. Best you can get is Kalita 103s, and they still fall short of Sibarist Fast v60 filters, honestly even of Hario ones.

>> No.15192583

>>15192374
>all these people talking about Sibarist because Hoffmeme mentioned it
>people are actually buying filters that cost 70 cents each

>> No.15192978

>>15192583
They're some of the only decently fast draining filters. I've been using them months before Hoffmann, it's been fucking obnoxious to get them after he made them popular.
They're also like 40 cents each if you buy directly in bulk, not 70 cents.

>> No.15193206

>>15192583
>>15192978
What's so special about these filters? Are they made of magic paper? I buy store brand ones that cost about $0.05 each.

>On July 8, 1908, the first paper coffee filter was invented by German housewife Melitta Bentz. She wanted to remove the bitter taste caused by boiling loose grounds or using the typical method of linen to brew coffee.[3] She patented her invention and formed a company, Melitta, to sell the coffee filters, hiring her husband and two sons to assist her as the first employees.

>Coffee filters of paper are made from about 100 g/m2 filter paper. The crimping of the sides allows the coffee to flow freely between the filter and the filtration funnel. The raw materials (pulp) for the filter paper are coarse long fiber, often from fast growing trees. Both bleached and unbleached qualities are made.[4]

Typically coffee filters are made up of filaments approximately 20 micrometres wide, which allow particles through that are less than approximately 10 to 15 micrometres.[5][6]

>> No.15193509

>>15193206
It's not very special. It's expensive because until very recently, it was a very low volume niche product for absolute coffee autists. I mean, even laboratory filters guaranteeing very specific performance parameters generally aren't that expensive to manufacture, but are expensive (especially if you buy in small quantities) because they're not high volume products.

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What electric kettle do you guys use?

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>>15194223
I got two bona vitas, on one you can set temperature, other just boils normally

>> No.15194418

>>15194223
Stagg ekg.

>> No.15194423

>>15193206
>>15193509
They drain substantially faster than Hario v60 filters, which already drain substantially faster than any filter that fits a #4 Melitta cone. This allows for a finer grind and better extraction than using other filters. It's not about the ability of the filter to filter, coffee can be fucking great even without one (see Turkish), but the ability of the filter to get out of the way of using ideal brew parameters.

Even if you're not so spendy, the Hasio Switch will let you use better filters than tho Clever ALL the time for approximately the same price uith Hario filters, and open the option to splurge on even nicer ones on occasion.

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>>15194223
The shower screen basket on my Decent.
It does a better and more consistent job pouring with more customizable timing than is possible by a human. While also allowing some interesting things like temperature profiling during the pour.

>> No.15194509

>>15194223
Stovetop kettle because I brew most of my pourovers right off the boil. I've also got a hot water dispenser for my Flair/tea.

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trying to get into brewing my own coffee. just bought a cheap french press and a bag off coffee ground.
old mate told me that i should use hot water not boiling. what other little things should i be doing to maximize my coffee experience

>> No.15194813

>>15194731
https://youtu.be/st571DYYTR8
Also Hoffman says boiled water is fine

>> No.15194924

>>15194731
Get your french press technique down like >>15194813 and then treat yourself to some decent coffee, like the stuff that's $12-$15 per 12 oz bag. Try something that's medium roasted.

>> No.15195147

>>15194223
Some cheapo home electric kettle. I really can't justify the price point for goose necks, even if I do pour overs for around 1/3 of my brews.

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>>15195147
i got an off-brand (non-electric) gooseneck for $15 last year. comes with a pretty shitty thermometer on the knob. But I pretty much exclusively drink pourover.

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Put a tea spoon in my mug and add a cup of water then stir then top it up with full fat milk.

>> No.15195748

>>15188920
Video plz plz plz

>> No.15195758

>>15194223
Just your normal cheap stainless steel kettle that reaches boiling point for a few seconds. I reckon I dont need those fancy schmancy goosenecks
because I have a flair espresso maker and it works great when I preheat the brew head in the kettle . I do everything pretty quick so the brew head stays hot. Im probably gonna upgrade to a La Pavoni eventually because I cant be bothered being careful with the hot water and I keep burning myself.

>> No.15196338

>>15194418

>> No.15196362

>>15184595
test

>> No.15196438

>>15195748
I never really liked making brew guide videos from a mixture of market saturation and not really liking prescriptive guides for brewing in general, but I might make an exception for this thing. Or at least a little overview. I feel like it got a bad rap when it came out for being completely fucking silly, because it is, despite being a pretty flexible little coffee maker.

>> No.15196459

>dump day old coffee
>into rebbl matcha latte to get dregs of matcha off the bottom
>shake half heartedly
every day we move further from God.

>> No.15196543

seattles best breakfast blend out of a french press, like every morning.

>> No.15197167

easiest way to get liberica coffee?

>> No.15197553
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15197553

How much coffee do you go through in a month? I'm buying up to 4 lb every month.

>> No.15197578

>>15197553
Around 2.5lbs/month. 2 cups a day at 20oz beans pers cup.

>> No.15197598

>>15197578
20g*

>> No.15197616

>>15197578
deez nigga drinking beens

>> No.15197641

>>15194423
Is it really better to grind fine and have quick brews for pourover or grind coarser and have slower brews a la kasuya method? I imagine grinder quality plays into this, less fines the finer you can go without clogging the filter.

>> No.15197761

I got a coffee advent calendar because recently I've been trying single origin beans to see if I can tell the difference. I don't think so. I make it in a french press, use a hand-crank burr grinder, and so far I've had Tanzanian peaberry, Ethiopian Suke Quto, Sumatra Mutu Batak, Costa Rica La Minita del Sol, and today a Colombian Abuelo from Narino. I'm sure most of those "estates" are not that great, but shouldn't they differ a little more than just the acidity? Maybe I'm just a tastelet but I don't think I can tell. What should I change?

>> No.15197782

>>15197641
Kasuya is a quack who relies on showmanship and story. Basic geometry tells you how much coarser grinds kneecap your extraction. The square-cube law is a fucking bitch.

>> No.15198584

>>15197761
Do you live in a hard water area? It can mask a lot of flavours. Get a third wave water kit or check barista hustle for water recipies.

>> No.15198606

>>15198584
>water recipes
Do coffefags really?

>> No.15198621

>>15198606
Yes! I have a whole guide I've writeen: https://awasteof.coffee/how-to/mixing-water/

Not only is your water most of your coffee, 90%-99% depending on how you brew it, but the minerals in the water can dramatically effect extraction, and alkalinity sources can directly cancel out any acidity which murders fruiter coffees. With a lot of water in swathes of the US having pretty high levels of calcium carbonate (more or less chalk), a lot of people are brewing with water that's erasing the acidity in their coffee. Not a big deal with grocery store coffee that was never acidity focused anyway, but can ruin any brighter SO coffee real fast.

>> No.15198743

>>15198584
I moved a few years ago from a place with very clean, tasty artesian water to Pennsylvania, and apparently my city's water is considered hard. I didn't know this could be a problem. I could buy some bottled spring water and brew two cups to see the difference, right?

>> No.15199032

>>15197553
I use about a pound a week.

>> No.15199329

>coffee "theory"
>extraction yield
>roasting curves
>water recipe
>thermal management
>pressure profiling
>processing methods
>grind distribution measurements
>distribution tools
>single origin microlots
snake oil sold by hucksters to gullible baristas and hobbyists, to make the whole scam seem legitimate. the fact is any idiot can make coffee.
none of this matters, just mix the water and beans, dial your drink in, and get on with your life. if you need an e-celeb to tell you how, you should just remove yourself from the gene pool.
coffee isn't a hobby. go ride a bike.

>> No.15199526

>>15199329
Aeropresser detected.

>> No.15199700

>>15199329
I can objectively prove to you that most of those things are not snake oil with a blind triangulation test on video.

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>>15189806
Sometimes a full cup is fine too.

>> No.15201035

>>15198743
If you can get water with low mineral content that could work i think.

>> No.15201118

>>15199700

Are they worth the effort?

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Comandante C40 and the Kinu M47 simplicity.
Which is, (((((better))))) long term considering I don't yet have a brewing method for espresso.
Does the replacement pour over bur for the Kinu justify its €50 cost compared to the €35 red clix by comandante?
I got the money for either and am desperate to graduate from this Hario hell.

>> No.15201369

>>15201246
An extra 35 for slightly smaller steps, or an extra 50 to have a pristine set of espresso capable lower burrs hanging around for a rainy day. Basically paying that extra 50 for 2 grinders. I've got the phoenix with no pourover burrs, otherwise I'd do a

>>15199329
>grind distribution measurement

for you.

>> No.15201386

>>15201246
I have a Kinu M47 Simplicity and I chose it over the Comandante because it looked much more durable, and also because I plan to go to espresso soon. I currently use it without the pour over burr for V60 and french press, as they're currently out of stock from where I can buy them. It's way easy to grind with, though I imagine that the Comandante would be just as easy. My brews are pretty good, definitely leaps and bounds better than my previous Hario. I'm not even sure at this point whether I still need to get the pour over brew. That said, the downside to M47 Simplicity's durability is that it's way heavier than the Comandante, even with its plastic parts, so the Comandante is much more travel-friendly.
Just to fuck with you, I think you'll be completely fine with either.

>> No.15201478

What's a good baby's first machine for espresso with support for steamed milk? Note I'm upgrading from a krueig so anything's an improvment

>> No.15201485

>>15201478
this is entirely dependent on your budget desu

>> No.15201533

>>15201485
Is $300 a good budget? I just want something I can use to make cortaditos on par with what you'd expect from a cuban bakery

>> No.15201598

>>15201533
Breville bambino.

>> No.15201600

>>15184595

>had my first two cups of the day

>gigantic, cleansing dump follows immediately thereafter

I fucking love my digestive system, no joke.

>> No.15201602

>>15201533
And no, $300 isn't a good budget.

>> No.15201603

What makes a hand grinder better than something like the Capresso?

>> No.15201628

>>15184595
is ethiopian coffee really as good as I've heard? Is it the coffee ground or also the preparation? Would ethiopian coffee found in ethnic shops be elgit?

>> No.15201635

>>15201602
Fuck, that's the same budget I used for a high-end CPU, why is this shit so expensive

>> No.15201642

>>15201635
because you don't want boiling pressurized water to fuck up a single time, which is why we didn't link the $150 hand-press ones

>> No.15201650

>>15201628
>would ethiopian coffe found in ethnic shops be legit?
going to give an extremely rushed explanation here to genuinely try to help

the shop, store, branding etc does not impact the quality or sourcing of the coffee. you always want to aim for coffee that is boldly stamped with "DIRECT Trade coffee" on the side/front - NOT Fair Trade, NOT anything else. for quality and ethics, you want direct trade. realistically, you may not be able to find direct-trade coffee sources anywhere near you depending on where you live, so just look for fair trade locally roasted blends either at your local coffee shop (just ask an employee, they'll know what they have) or even better/easier just google local roasters and go buy it directly from them

>> No.15201652

>>15201642
fair enough, that is the same reason I've stopped experimenting with a chinesium moka pot someone gifted me

>> No.15201760

>>15201118
That's up to you.
But most of them are objectively not snak oil in that one can consistently pick out the difference made by them in blind testing.

>>15201478
Eh, not necessarily. Bad espresso can be really impressively bad. Keurig at least isn't outright difficult to force down like bad espresso can be.

>>15201650
Most good coffee isn't direct trade. Almost all good roasters go through importers for the overwhelming majority of their coffee and may only have one or two relationship coffees directly sourced with a farmer a year. Even big names in good coffee like Tim Wendelboe mostly go through importers.

>> No.15201903

>>15201369
>>15201386
I could get the Comandante today for around €220 and the Kinu for about €280. I also am tempted to grab the Comandante and spend that extra €60 on a set of scales.
But that does mean that I cannot replace my burrs as it doesn't seem that Comondante sell them, just the red clix for further adjustment.
Should I really care this much? Or should I just shut up and buy one?

>> No.15201907

>>15201760
>quality -and- ethics
you're right that you probably aren't getting the best coffee buying a grab-bag of direct-trade - you should still exclusively be buying direct trade coffee if you're not a piece of shit

>> No.15201933

>>15201907
The importers that the best roasters use treat farmers right too. Better than most roasters are capable of since they have more resources and can actually buy out entire lots even when they're not tiny side projects. Direct trade is in NO way inherently a good thing over a quality importer. Roasters like Tim Wendelboe or Coffee Collective don't go around buying lots from importers that treat farmers like shit.
Transparency of the chain is far more important than number of steps in the chain.

>> No.15202008

>>15201903
It's unlikely for you to need to replace the burr due to wear and tear for either the Kinu or Comandante, unless you're using the grinder for something other and harder than coffee. If you take good care of the default burr for any of those two, it will last a lifetime.
Also
>€60 scale
That price is overkill; it almost sounds like an overpriced Hario scale. Just get a heatproof chink scale that has 0.1g minimum division and has a timer.

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>>15202008
My 5 year old niece Darcie who comes up to my room to watch me make coffee asked what I was up to. I showed her a picture of the burgandy C40 and M47 simplicity and said that the C40 is better because it's red. Guess it's settled then. C40 it is.

>> No.15202424

>>15195619
As much as I distance myself from instant coffee, I have to acknowledge Douwe Egberts Gold with milk got me into the drink.

>> No.15202506

>>15201652
My $150 scratch and dent flair is perfect. But he wants milk and the bellman isn't exactly beginner friendly.

>>15202008
And just get pissed that your $60 scale lags.

>> No.15202545

>>15194437
I am now jealous. What do you have for a grinder?

>> No.15202738

I'd like to get one of those single-serve coffee makers (think kuerig type machine that uses the cups/capsules)
But I have no idea which one to get. I know a big problem for the keurigs is apparently they don't get hot enough to brew the coffee properly. But all the reviews I can find for single serve coffee makers don't list the temp they get the water to.

What is a simple, single-serve coffee maker that uses the cups/capsules and gets the water to the correct temp?

Before you mention it, I intend to use a reusable self-fill cup with my own ground beans. The reason I want a single-serve machine is convenience and speed. Not explicitly to use the ready-made cups.

>> No.15202754

>>15202738
what's your budget? keep in mind you need to not just get a keurig machine, but one that has entirely separate settings for pods and one for coffee - that's why many complain about them not getting up to temp

if you want something simple and affordable that does exactly that you may consider just grabbing a Nespresso. i would never really recommend Nespresso for anything other than exactly what you want

>> No.15202784

>>15202754
I probably should have been clearer in my OP. I'm not exclusively looking at keurig branded ones. I just used it as an example since it's the most well-known brand.

Ideally, I'd like to not spend more than around $80. I really don't need one that does more than just make coffee from the cups/reusable cups.

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My cappuccino :D

>> No.15202836

>>15201603
They're usually better on price-performance, not necessarily better. With a hand grinder, you're just paying for a burr set and build quality/ergonomics, whereas with an electric, you also have to pay for a motor, the housing, buttons, UI, etc. Plus most hand grinder designs have next to no retention.

>> No.15202846

>>15202796
dogshit m8

>> No.15202854

>>15202796
fuck that other anon who doesn't drink coffee i'd give you $7 for that right now

>> No.15202866

>>15202796
How did you prep the milk? You got a steamer at home or are you using a milk frother like the Nespresso one?

>> No.15202882

>>15202784
Get a classic (not Vertuo) Nespresso machine if you want something espresso-like. I got an Essenza Mini last year, and it was fine until I upgraded to a real espresso machine. I still use the milk frother that came with it for my Flair.

>> No.15202923

>>15202866
I pour frothed milk over the coffee mixed with sugar.
Yes, I use the nespresso machine (Aeroccino) which is one of the best purchases of my life.

>> No.15202951

>>15202923
Credit where it's due, those things are actually quite good. My parents got one. You can also use them to make mochas. Add 1.5 teaspoons of raw cocoa powder and 1 teaspoon of sugar and just let it run for latte milk. Surprisingly good.

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>>15202951
Yes they’re good, I also had an espresso machine with the steam arm but the aeroccino is better, but then again it wasn’t a fancy machine even though it was good at its job.

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>>15202545
EG-1, older generation v1 plus some tungsten burrs from SSP.
Pictured with Bripe.

>> No.15203152

Realistically, what's the upside of having a dual boiler espresso machine in a household over having a single boiler one? Is there any? If you're brewing like 1-4 coffees a day then being able to brew and steam at the same time doesn't sound like much of a deciding factor.

>> No.15203211

>>15203152
All single boiler machines, save for the LM Shot Puller (which is a special order machine at the same price category as a GS3), generally fucking suck. The issue isn't that the machine is single boiler, it's that almost nobody makes an even ok quality single boiler machine.

>> No.15203227

>>15203211
So it's less that you pay for having dual boiler specifically, it's that you pay for a good quality espresso machine and those all have dual boiler as a sort of standard, right? I guess that's one way to stack up the price.

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>>15203013
Do I spot a TiScribe?

>> No.15203340

>>15203248
Yup. With v5 refills since I like them better than g2.

>> No.15203471

>>15203013
You ever compare it to an ek43 and have any thoughts on that?

>> No.15203485

>>15203152
You have to learn how to temperature surf to get decent espresso, and if you want milk drinks, either your steamed milk or your espresso will sit out for several minutes while you get the boiler water to the right temp for steaming or shot pulling. If you're just pulling shots, you could get something like a Silvia with a PID mod for better temperature control.

>> No.15203523

>>15203471
I've used both, but never had em side by side. So I can confidentialy say easier to dial in and less unwieldy to use, but I'd want more back to back testing to comment on taste comparisons.

>> No.15203601

do you ever make your own blends?

>> No.15203669

>tfw the wonderful peach notes in my Ethiopian beans can only be extracted if I use an immersion brew method
>tfw no peach if I use V60

>> No.15203680

>>15203669
harioswitch

>> No.15204037

Daily reminder that the correct English spelling of the Italian word 'espresso' is 'expresso'

Has anyone received their Stocking Mill Coffee order yet?

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>>15194223
Knock off stagg

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>>15203340
Exquisite taste anon. Rocking an Energel 0.5 in mine.

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>>15204037
This you?

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>>15204588
Why would that be me he is holding a sign expressing the exact opposite of my post

>> No.15204670

>>15204634
You're both faggots wasting your time?

>> No.15204718

>>15204670
???

>> No.15204736

>>15204037
I did not order any even though I said I would

>> No.15204743

>>15204736
Good, they had to hire 7 more people and buy another roaster just to start getting out the orders they got.

>> No.15205122

>>15186186
I literally made it three weeks ago

>> No.15205158

>>15204718
Shouting into the void.

>> No.15205385

>>15203485
I impulse-bought a Sage/Breville Barista Express, mostly because it was on sale and I heard it's a decent machine to start with. After I pull a shot steam still starts flowing out pretty fast. Am I doing something wrong or is that a characteristic of that specific machine? I'm new to this.

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Bros, I think I fucked up. I'm getting my parents pic related as a Christmas present, but I forgot that they only use a Moccamaster. Is it doomed to become shit, or can a single origin taste fine as drip?

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>>15206082
Single origin can taste "fine" and even quite good as drip. Depending on the flavor notes you could even make a "nice" iced coffee during the summer months.
>>15205385
Worst case scenario, you learn something about equipment. I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that you'll spend more money on shit coffee than useless equipment over your life.
>>15204588
Checked.
>>15204064
Looks nice, can you control the water temp?>>15189806
I've only had about four, maybe five people ever ask me for this over the last five years. How are they?

>> No.15206520

>>15206224
>Looks nice, can you control the water temp?
No.

Fill with water, press button, get hot water

>> No.15206680

>>15206224
>Worst case scenario, you learn something about equipment.
Eh, I am reasonably satisfied for now. As I said, it was bought on a sale and I must say I enjoy the process being more involved than just pushing a button. So far my biggest complaint is that the tamper included with the machine kinda feels like it doesn't fit snuggly enough and always leaves a thin ring of untamped coffe around the walls of the filter, though maybe that's on account of me being new and tamping it wrong.

I only drank instant and moka pot (with cheap pregrounded beans) coffee before. If my interest doesn't wane in a few months I'll probably save for a good standalone grinder and then think about selling the Sage and upgrading. Also, didn anyone use the same machine and could tell me if its integrated grinder can grind for stuff like pour-over or French press?

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15206987

Picked this up yesterday. Pretty damn good

>> No.15207128

>>15203523
>easier to dial in and less unwieldy
Care to explain more? I've pretty much exclusively been using an ek43 for the last many years. Doesn't seem unwieldy to me, maybe because I'm just used to it?

>> No.15207173

>>15207128
In terms of dialing in, for example, if I'm pulling shots of three different things with three different settings, I can just go right back to that number on the EG's dial since it's ridiculously fine and pull the same shot I did last time. It's annoying, but possible, trying to do that on an EK with it's dial that's more calibrated for brewed coffee making small differences in dial position have a larger influence on grind size. I especially like this since I sometimes like to get a decaf option for late night espresso, mostly when I'm drinking Passenger since they're just about the only people I trust to roast actually good decaf, and it's nice to be able to maintain them both being dialed in correctly. And sometimes I just end up with more coffees when my local shop (Sump coffee) gives me a preview bag of something coming up for sale.
In terms of unwieldyness, I'm mostly talking about physical aspects of the grinder. Size, noise, etc. The EG is a lot smaller, a lot quieter, and a little less messy.

>> No.15207175

>>15185634
Coming from the guy who doesnt know what aeropress is.

>> No.15207176

>>15206082
Why in the world wouldn't it taste good as a drip? Moccamasters do a great job as well. You did fuck up buying a natural process, but that's ok - some people like them.

>> No.15207185

>>15207173
Ah, fair enough. I've got the 3fe dial for mine at home, and find that the resolution it gives is plenty. At work, for a 2L batch, the grind setting for batch brew is so coarse that espresso is just barely a possibility. If I zero the burrs to just touching, then there is a huge range for espresso but none for batch brews. I definitely hear you points about size, noise, and mess as well. Surprised I haven't ever seen a direct comparison between the two - especially in the pourover/drip range.

>> No.15207222

>>15201603
>What makes a hand grinder better than something like the Capresso?

Madebyknock. The Aergrind is awesome

>> No.15207270

>>15207173
Follow-up. How would you rate the factory alignment on the EG? And how easy is it to align if the factory alignment isn't satisfactory?

>> No.15207362

>>15207270
Really solid out of the box for me. It's really easy to align a lot radially, and easy enough to align a little bit in terms of parallelism. Though there isn't much to do if it's way out of whack in terms of burrs not being parallel, luckily it doesn't seem to be a significant concern with them.

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Early Christmas present, aww yeah.

>> No.15207502

>>15207176
>Not liking natural process
How's that shit taste working out for you?

>> No.15207522

>>15207502
Natural process is fun for a while, but they're almost all just the same thing after the novelty wears off. There's a couple farms that do actually really special natural process coffee, but for the most part it just ends up masking the actual origin characteristics in the same fermented fruit taste.

>> No.15207535

>>15207381
too small I'd have to brew twice for a coffee, but they're 10/10 great quality got myself one 6 years old of daily coffees and still going strong

just be careful to wash them afterwards or it erodes

>> No.15207536

>>15207222
>What makes

Not who makes.


>>15207175
Its a paper filtered french press. What do you think it is?

>> No.15207553

>>15184595
Am i the only one who sees the joker watching over these pajeets?

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>>15184939
Just get one (or a couple) of these. All parts are stainless steel, brews 1 cup at a time so it's not too much, no filter or other consumable required, and position on top of cup keeps steam in so coffee stays nice and hot.

>> No.15207706

>>15207535
The largers sizes were out of stock where my relative bought them, still appreciated nonetheless. Its a pity they didn't have the red one, it looks great too.

>> No.15207807

Ethiopian coffee does taste fruity.
This expensive pretentious shit really contrasts the bulk stuff I buy every month, feels like a different drink.

>> No.15208156

Is used (about 70% of store price) Wilfa Uniform worth it if I want to save for Niche Zero somewhere along the way? Is it even possible to buy Niche Zero anywhere with any reliability? It seems to be sold out.

>> No.15208286

>>15207807
Bought some from a local roaster today. Nice fruityness and sweetness.

>> No.15208385

>>15202796
looks like a sibby cub
:DDD

>> No.15208595

>>15184645
Thanks, y-you too

>> No.15208605

My folks love their Keurig but it's dying. Anyone happen to know what version is best that's being sold? They don't want a different system they always use the Keurig.

>> No.15208742

Quick q for you reusable kcup homos. Roasted up an lb of some cheap brazilian for my uncle for xmas. As far as I'm aware, he exclusively uses a refillable kcup. How am I grinding this for him? Its like $3 of beans, so I could give a fuck less desu. He's getting a few cigars with it as well.

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15208822

Total coffee noob here

I bought a large dripper (2-4 cups) so works great in the morning but In the afternoon when I only want one cup it seems to brew too fast and I get weak coffee

Any tips? Should I just grind finer, or do you think I need to buy a separate smaller dripper?

>> No.15209435

>>15208822
Just grind finer.

>> No.15210329

>>15208156
Of course. Unless you intend to do espresso. Probably no real need to upgrade from that anyway.

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How do you like your coffee?

>> No.15210818

>>15210329
Yeah, my goal would be espresso and from what I've found Wilfa can do it in a pinch but isn't ideal. I might still buy it and give it to my dad though, and hunt for Niche in the meantime.

>> No.15210971

>>15207536
It's a modular immersion coffee brewer. Whose only feature it shares with French press is the immersion part.

>> No.15211437

>>15210818
https://www.nichecoffee.co.uk/ Sign up to the newsletter, and you'll be emailed when the next batch is available for pre-order. I pre-ordered in mid-November, and delivery is scheduled for February (hopefully pushed forward to January).

>> No.15212520

>>15208742
I think it's medium-fine. My parents have one of these pieces of shit. I opened one up once and it looked a tad finer than preground for drip machines.

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15212554

whomever the fuck introduced me to drinktrade
TYBG
also i've recently taken the heatpill and been pleasantly surprised
brewing at boil vs ~90-94C has been great as I almost exclusively brew fruitier light roasts

>> No.15212558

>>15210971
You know if you jam a paper filter in a french press, its now a modular immersion brewer? The ap does not generate enough pressure to affect the brew whatsoever. Sure you can double the price of one with a prismo, and still end up with shitty coffee.

>Whose only feature it shares with French press is the immersion part.

You mean the entire method of brewing is exactly the same, other than the addition of a paper filter?


>>15212520
Thx senpai

>> No.15212911

>>15211437
Thanks. Having to wait is probably better anyway since I can safely save up money.

>> No.15213158

>tfw coffee tastes so creamy without adding anything to it

Ethiopia is a blessed land

>> No.15213165

>>15213158
for me it's fruity and acidic Kenya

>> No.15213630

>>15213165
I cannot stand acidic coffee. Fruity can be good though

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>>15213630
Prefer nuttier tastes

>> No.15215135

>>15184595
How often should I clean my french press as oppose to just rinsing it?

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15216269

pick my next single origin for espresso /ctg/.
I've already tried the Brazil and Columbia from these guys.

>> No.15216298

>>15184939
Only if you like filtered coffee. Aeropress produces very clean-tasting coffee in oppose to something like a french press or moka pot

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Augie's is shutting down all their operations. I might start home roasting. Where do you start?

>> No.15217480

>>15217251
There's a guy on insta who built a roaster out of an old bread machine, a heat gun, and a thermocouple.

@roastfromhome

>> No.15217532

decided to just start a coffee subscription and get random shit sent to me every week
i basically choose randomly anyway

>> No.15217970

what's a good sweet berry tasting coffee bean?

>> No.15217981

>>15217251
Popcorn popper is going to be the quickest "all in one" thing to get running. This has the same principle as bread machine roasting(they cut the bread machines heater wire and just use the paddle for agitation).

https://library.sweetmarias.com/larry-cottons-dog-bowl-roaster/

Sky is the limit.

>> No.15218128

>>15184595
I'm drinking some basic stuff since I'm just getting into using a French Press.
>Bodum French Press, 3 cup
>Wild Highlands Modern Single Origin from Scotland (exotic, I know). Gonna move to a stronger type from them next time
>7g of coffee, bloom with a bit of water for 30 secondsish
>fill and wait for four minutes
>pour
Open to suggestions about how to do this better

>> No.15218132 [DELETED] 

I do like this coffee though. A bit sweet and fruity. I might just run two at a time

>> No.15218142

>>15218128
I do like this coffee though. A bit sweet and fruity. I might just run two at a time

>> No.15218195

>F3 "cowboy coffee"
>0 results

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An evening brew using my press. Only got 27 grams left and the press doesn't get enough love from me.

>> No.15218478

>>15218322
aye whats good fellow staggbro

>> No.15218494

>>15184595
Coffee is Racist.

https://urnex.com/blog/addressing-anti-blackness-in-specialty-coffee/

>> No.15218679

>every high end roaster in the world pushes out Volcan Azul Costa Rica coffees at the same time

They're all from the Volcan Azul estate, but different varietals (slightly different harvest time) and different processes (vastly different post-harvest processing time), yet they're all coming out at the same time. How does this work? Did they stash all the finished green beans and hold a huge auction to move them all at the same time?

>> No.15218791

>>15218478
Love this kettle, temperature control is a luxury that is worth the money. How do you find yours?
Brew was nice, I should really use the press more often. I just dislike how it only brews one mug at a time.

>> No.15219562

>>15218791
it's great. came from a massive 1.7 L bonavita so time to boil is super quick (used to brew ~90-94C but now brew just off boil because most my beans are real light roasted fruity african stuff)
limited capacity but i only brew one cup in a v60 in the mornings
also my previous kettle didn't have the gooseneck which is fucking glorious

>> No.15219604

>>15219562
Different anon, but also picked one up recently. My only real complaint is that the neck isn't curved enough towards the end. It pours really nice, but I mostly do pour over and can't get as close to the coffee as I'd like. Otherwise I absolutely love it.

>> No.15219735

anybody else like to eat some of their beans after roasting them?

>> No.15219874

Thoughts on adding a pinch of salt to the grinds?

>> No.15220122

>>15219874
It's something boomers do to mask their shit coffee.
Just don't buy shit coffee.

>> No.15220958

>>15219604
why do you want to get super close? I actually find that I miss on some notes going so closely and without any agitation.

>> No.15221551

>>15186282
Yeah, I roast on a Behmor 1600+

>> No.15221560

>>15188957
No. You want as close to unimodal or bimodal as possible. Get a Hario Skerton or Porlex or something if you're poor.

>> No.15221656

>>15219874
try cinammon instead

>> No.15221683

Bros, a few years ago, I was walking through a discount store and saw boxes of Starbucks single origin Sulawesi. They were on clearance at $5 so I bought one to try. It was incredible. I went back the next day and bought the last 15 boxes they had. I went back pretty regularly but never saw it on sale again. I looked everywhere. Starbucks, Amazon, eBay, fucking everywhere and never saw it again. Apparently it was a limited run for 2016 only. It is easily the best coffee I've ever had. Rich, smokey, like drinking bacon. Please tell me some /ck/unt around here knows what I'm talking about and knows about some coffee out there that is similar. It's all I want for Christmas this year

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>>15215135
Once a week at least.

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>>15218128
Pic related. Tempted to get an 8 cup but that may be overkill

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No posts today?
€20 on a water filter today, I want to see just how much it's affecting my coffee. I'll use the last 13ish grams of this off in my press.

>> No.15224233

>>15213630
You don't get fruity without acidity. Think about any fruit, and they are a mix of sugary and acidic. Acid is the tangy crisp taste, not that bitter harsh taste.

>> No.15224241

>>15218128
>7g coffee
Either really weak or an absolutely tiny cup of coffee. Small batches like this don't really work well because the water will cool down too much too fast.

>> No.15224297

>>15224241
I've mainly been using it for single large cups, just filling it to the top(ish). Which obviously does water it down a bit, admittedly. I switched to 14g for a stronger cup today though.

>> No.15224378

>>15218128
>7g coffee
with how much water? that really doesn't seem like much at all
I do 41g with 650ml water which is basically 2 coffee cups worth
Also I do a quick stir at 00:30 and pour the remaining water in at 1:00. Not sure what difference it makes really but my coffee tastes good imo

>> No.15224441

>>15224378
Bear in mind, I'm only making it for myself for one cup. So it must be like 150-200ml of water. I'll up it to 14 or 21 next time.

>> No.15224446

>>15224441
*and then more if it's not enough. I'm definitely not getting the same buzz as instant, so that explains it. I'd read in a guide to use 7g and just went based on that. Well, I feel dumb, but hey, the more you know

>> No.15224483

>>15224446
There is a range, but I think the general recommended ratio of coffee to water for french press is 1:16.
Of course, you can make it your own way however you really want.

>> No.15224702

>>15221683
Sulawesi Toraja is a rarer Indonesian island coffee type, but it is not unobtainable. I'm sure you can find some green or roasted from a specialty roaster. Amazon, eBay, and Starbucks are not the place to find it. Google and DuckDuckGo are the way to find it.

>> No.15224754

Did my first home roast with popcorn popper. I used a single origin Brazilian. I'm surprised how even it came out. I'd say it's medium roast. What's the minimum time before I can brew it.

>> No.15224803

>>15224754
Grats!
Depends on the coffee. Some coffees taste great immediately. Some take 24-72 hours of rest to taste ideal. I suggest you test brew now, then again tomorrow, then the next day, and so on as part of your learning process.

>> No.15224901

>>15223879
Should have spent $7 on an aquarium gh/kh test kit instead. You're flying blind.

>>15224754
I'll usually do a test v60 after 24 hours then start pulling shots 2-3 days after that.

>> No.15224942

>>15224901
I'm a newish roaster. I have only tried about 15 coffees now. 24 hours is a typical resting time.

>> No.15225036

>>15224803
Different anon, I want to wire up a voltage regulator between the fan and heating element. Unfortunately isn't as simple as "Hook the + and - wires up" as they have split into three distinct wires for the element. Any idea where I can go to figure this out?

>> No.15225381

>>15224901
>>15224803
I took you advice and made a cup. It's been just over 24 hours and I really enjoy it. It's really clean and balanced, which is what I expected from this bean. Will the actually note profile change over time or just the amount of extraction possible.

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>>15225036
Yeah, buy a tc4+ and an arduino.

https://www.tindie.com/products/artisanaltech/tc4-coffee-roaster-shield-tc4-plus/

https://www.instructables.com/Arduino-controlled-DIY-Coffee-Roaster/

>> No.15226044

Wanna try making my own cold brew since we're coming into hot weather.
Is it really as easy as letting course ground coffee steep overnight?

>> No.15226617

>>15225381
You'll find out at 48 and 72 hours. Won't really change much after that until it goes stale. Stale coffee is no longer an issue for you. You have acsended. Every bean has a learning curve. Some coffees change wildly in character with different roast levels. I'm sure some people would think roasting is a pain in the ass. I think it's fun.

>> No.15228490

bump

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>>15222998
New coffee tin. I'm done for now, I think

>> No.15228908
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Coffee Siphon Master Race reporting in!

>> No.15228934

>>15228908
>dark roast blend
>siphon

For what purpose?

>> No.15228955

>>15228934
What would be better through a siphon?

>> No.15229217

>>15228908
Siphons look like some kinda alchemical tools and it makes me want to have one even if I have no idea how they work, purely for decoration.

>> No.15229349

How sour/acidic can an espresso be before it is considered to have been prepared wrong? Recently I've had my first proper specialty espresso cup made from Etiophian beans. It really did taste very fruity which surprised my instant coffee-conditioned tongue, but it was also kinda sour at the start before other flavours kicked in. I thought espresso is supposed to be on the bitter side?

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>>15228908

>> No.15229395

>>15229349
If you're preparing for yourself or other "specialty coffee" victims: no limit.

If you're preparing for anyone else: any detectable sourness is not acceptable.

>> No.15229536

>>15229395
I got it from a caffe. It was good overall, just not what I expected at all and it made me wonder if that was the intended taste since I have no real point of reference.

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Is 250g a week in a coffee subscription too much?

>> No.15230210

>>15228955
Nearly anything. Dark roasts are all bad. Try buying some decent coffee before blowing 200 bucks on a brewer. With that said, the siphon looks awesome.

>> No.15230229

thoughts on big face coffee and the owner, jimmy butler?

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>>15230229
forgot pic related

>> No.15230303

>>15230239
His face isn't that big.

>> No.15230370

>>15229677
250g is enough for about 16 cups of coffee if you brew 15g/cup.

>> No.15230383

>>15230303
he's 6'7" i think

>> No.15230404

>>15229677
I use 20g/cup. So 40g per day. Thats less than a week for me so just calculate what you would need...

>> No.15230445

>>15225381
>clean and balanced
likely it isnt on your first roast
cup your coffee next to high level roasters to avoid getting used to defects

>> No.15230454

>>15225036
Figure out what the wires are. Shouldn't be hard to figure out what to do from there.

>> No.15230468

>>15225381
Depends on roast level. Darker roasts will age faster, so require less time before being optimal. Longer for lighter coffees. You can mitigate this by grinding an hour before brewing for the first few days. I roast quite light, and rehydrate the green before roasting, and find that it takes around 5 days before it starts to taste how it should, and is best around 2 weeks after roast.

>> No.15230476

>>15230468
>>15225381
Oh, and yes mostly it is just solubility increasing, but also some of the flavors from the roast (smoke mostly) will leave the surface as well during that time.

>> No.15230483

>>15229349
Well, that depends on taste. Ideally high acid is balanced with similarly high sweetness. Bitterness is not really desirable for me.

>> No.15230509

>>15230445
It's a specialty bean that I already drank a bag of from the roaster and they were selling green beans as well. I kept my brew methods the same, and it taste nearly identical except maybe slightly less of a certain note I was expecting. That note also isn't as noticeable in the aromas right now. I actually think it tastes a bit sweeter though.

>> No.15230512

>>15230483
Oh yeah, it wasn't bitter at all. Very fruity, with a bit of smokier/nuttier/molassy (I don't even know) end. A bit of a rollercoaster, really. It was Fahem espresso from Tim Wendelboe in Oslo.

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>>15228908
Tea-like coffee

>> No.15230543

>>15230468
>>15230476
It's a medium roast and I find it very drinkable flavourwise within the first couple days. it's a lot better than I expected for my first roast.

>> No.15230713

>>15230509
That's fine, my point stands. Likely that isn't a coffee from a top tier roaster. I would say that 95%+ of local roasters are mediocre to dogshit. And since they are selling Brazilian coffee, they probably are not very good.

What do you stand to gain by insulating yourself from things that will make you improve?

>> No.15230722

>>15230512
Yeah, Tim roasts very light. High acid high sweetness. It's not for everyone, but when done right it's incredible. And when I say it's not for everyone, I only half mean that. Our tastes have evolved over millions of years to find the flavor profile of ripe fruit desirable. Light roasted coffee of high quality replicates that profile - high acid high sweetness. So we are evolutionarily programmed to prefer light roasted coffee. There are those that have become so accustomed to whatever garbage they are drinking that they poopoo it, though, and power to them.

>> No.15230741

>>15230543
Fair enough. Glad you like it. It's interesting how easy it is to make "good enough" coffee. Takes about zero knowhow, or even execution. This is a trap most (like nearly all) roasters fall into at some point, and most end up staying in forever. You heat the bean, it gets roasted, it tastes like coffee, it's not terrible. Must be doing something right. Huh, maybe I've found the key, or I'm a natural at this. And then they avoid experimenting beyond the narrow scope of profiles they have, because it can be costly, and it's hard to actually get significantly better results. So they say, good enough, I make great coffee. Meanwhile, they are subjecting their coffees to a variety of roast, green quality, and storage defects. They get used to these. They don't taste top tier coffees, and if they do, they pretend that when those coffees are miles better it is because of some secret sauce that is only available to larger roasters such as better green quality or better roasters (see people who pay retard bucks for "geshas" and probats).

I worked for a while with a roaster, interested in doing third wave style coffee. Problem was he kept over roasting, baking, stalling, flick n crashing his roasts. And they weren't great. So I would get him to cup some world class coffees alongside his. He, his wife, and I all vastly preferred the other roasters coffee. But he was resistant to any and all attempts to improve.

Don't let this be you. Your coffee now is mediocre at best. I promise you. This doesn't mean it's not enjoyable or even better than some local roasters. But it's not anywhere near as good as it could be with some effort.

>> No.15230747

>>15230519
You just mean to say weak. It's really that simple. Tealike and it's not absolutely fucked in the roasting process? Just not strong enough, add more coffee and/or increase your extraction.

>> No.15230827

Well, shit guys. I just dropped some coin down on a big old batch of green for Christmas presents for family. I'm probably not going to be able to roast it up on time, but whatever. An attempt will be made. I bought some pretty good shit. I really hope this won't be a pearls before swine scenario.

>> No.15231357

>>15226044
Yes, i use 1:8 ratio

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>>15230713
>>15230741
The roaster I got from does not generally do brazilians, but they had a natural and have been trying as many different ones as possible lately. I also went with brazilan because I'm roasting for Xmas gifts, and most people I will be giving it to have not been exposed to any sort of floral or fruity coffees. I will probably go with a washed Ethiopian next time. I do not think I have some gift of coffee roasting, and do not consider myself a connisuer, but I've tried dozens of roasters recently and I would only say a few were amazing. I got my beans from the most expensive of all those roasters although this brazilian was the cheapest out of all thier beans. I have no intention of getting more serious about roasting anytime soon, my first attempt made a better cup than 100% of shitty beans I've tasted, and pretty comparable to a lot of specialty beans I've tasted over the last few years.

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>>15230713
I'm also not sure what you mean by insulating myself because I'm here asking for opinions. I'm roasting for fun and because I think it will be cheaper. It will still cost more than buying grocery store beans but it's obviously worth it. I'm using an 8 dollar popcorn machine from the 80's btw. Too bad can't just share a cup with you.

>> No.15231415

>>15231389
cute quacker

>> No.15231538

>>15231389
Yeah, maybe I jumped to conclusions a bit regarding insulating yourself. I suppose I already had a preloaded response based on what I've experienced with roasters regarding their own roast quality.

Based on the roast degree in that picture, it's likely that it is neither clean nor balanced, as it is quite dark. If that roast degree is similar to what you got from the roaster you sourced the green beans from, they are not likely to be of the tier of roaster I was suggesting you taste your coffee next to.

To really assess your coffee quality you should taste side by side your coffee and other roasters' coffee - having a cup made one day or even an hour or so before and comparing that to one now doesn't work well at all.

The main goal was to try to divert you from falling into the trap of thinking your coffee is better than it is, along the lines of the process described in this post
>>15230741

The quality, based on quaker count, of the green seems to be reasonably high. Usually with naturals and brazilians you see much higher quaker proportions.

>> No.15231622

>>15231538
Different guy, but you sound like a pretentious asshole. Are you one in real life, or do you just play one on the internet?

>> No.15231719

>>15225036
>read the datasheet

>> No.15231787

>>15231622
Sorry that you feel that way

>> No.15231918

>>15231787
Nice nonpology for talking down to that guy.

>> No.15232283

>>15231918
I wasn't talking down. I have experience, he just started and was looking for feedback.

>> No.15232297

>>15231363
>DeMello
It should be good regardless of the country of origin.

>> No.15233284

>>15231538
It's darker than anything I have gotta from the roaster before, I'm cutting the time on the next roast.

>>15232297
Luckily my best friend worked there and his shop is supplied by them now so I have been getting their roasts for a great price for years now.

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Want to get into espresso on the cheap.

How's this:

-1Zpresso JK Pro grinder for $220 (CAD)
-Flair NEO manual espresso + gauge + portafilter with the mesh instead of the pressurized hole ($250 cad)

VS

HOPE for a breville barista express machine BES870XL at ~550$ CAD

Only bonus for the manual setup is it'll probably only break once im dead and control over everything, but the price is basically the same as a low range machine that does everything so i dunno

>> No.15233452

>>15230722
I did like it so I'll probably try to look around for more like it. Thankfully Norway, and Oslo in particular, seems to have a decent number of roasteries.

On that matter, anyone has any recommendations in that area for someone new to specialty coffee?

>> No.15233706

>>15231357
Oh that seems pretty easy to do then.

>> No.15233988

>>15233367
Looks good. Could try to snag a scratch and dent signature as well.

>> No.15234169

anyone know any good coffee roasters in australia?

>> No.15234584

>>15184595
I'm eating instant coffee. I like to make the coffee in my mouth.

>> No.15234590

>>15234584
veganpilled and based

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Is the Barantz Encore what I should be getting to grind my beans?

>> No.15235396

>>15235378
It's the lowest end electric grinder I wouldn't outright tell you not to get.
You can do better for a similar price if you're open to hand grinding.

>> No.15235486

bought some supermarket coffee beans in a pinch that was described as a blend with arabica written on the front
from the taste it, it must be majority robusta
oh well, good excuse to break out the moka pot, because this makes dogshit filter coffee

>> No.15235602

Just bought my first Bialetti.

Any advice for a beginner ?

I heard that it is necessary to heat on the softest possible fire.

>> No.15235630

>>15235396
I'm not, I just want to push a button.
While I like my morning coffee ritual, I don't really want to sit and literally grind.

For what it's worth I'm using the Hario coffee syphon to brew my 'fee

>> No.15235814

>>15231389
>>15231363
im at 72 hours now and it seems more acidic, which i enjoy, but im going to roast for a couple people that might not like it that way. should i roast a bit darker for them?

>> No.15235944

>>15235814
Try grinding finer? I wouldn't roast darker than that. It's already on the dark end of medium, beyond that you're just going to get more bitterness.

How long was your roast total, and how long after first crack starts until you dropped the batch?

>> No.15236081

>>15235630
Might be good enough then, and it's hard to do significantly better without going manual or paying a LOT more.

>> No.15236099

>>15235378
Get it. Its a good value for what it is. You wont be able to do espresso with it but coffee is fine. You can also upgrade the burrs cheaply to be the same as their $250 model. It is a little loud.

>> No.15236438

>>15235814
Every coffee is a little puzzle. You might want to experiment with various roast levels to figure them out before you give them to other people. Personally, I never buy less than 5 lbs of anything now that I can read cupping scores and kind of kow what I like. Most people who aren't coffee nerds, or have never gotten into roasting cannot articulate what flavors they like or dislike in coffee beyond light/medium/dark. You probably can't fuck up here though. Most people drink shitty coffee, so anything better than what they're used to will blow them away. City to full city is the place to go when you're not sure what someone will like.

>> No.15236513

yall got good guides/videos on actually buying beans for coffee and or espresso? Ideally without paying a fuckton of money

>> No.15236869

>>15235944
It was 6 mins total, it was kinda hard to hear but I tried to stop it just as 2nd crack was starting.

>>15235602
Use boiling water, it will brew pretty quickly regardless of stove setting.

>> No.15237067

How does a moka pot coffee compare to a coffee from an espresso machine taste wise?
I want espresso at home, but I don't have money or space for a espresso machine. I don't care about crema as long as the coffee tastes good

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Folgers is the best coffee in a can, prove me wrong.

>> No.15237718

>>15237638
Why bother? The king of a pile of shit still lives on a pile of shit.

>> No.15238217

>>15236869
That's probably too fast to get proper development at that roast level - could be where the extra acid is coming from. Tough to slow it down without mods though.

>> No.15239036

opinions on lavazza light roast beans? seeing lots of bad reviews on amazon but it seems like most of them dont understand what a light roast is

>> No.15239095

>>15235378
Kind of disappointed, grinding at 30 for french press doesn't yield an even grind. It's ok, but it's $140 for just ok. Very loud.

>> No.15239157

>>15238217
I can try it outside, the weather is pretty cold

>> No.15239478

any barista anons here? Have an interview at a local cafe (p cute third wave spot) and am kinda nervous even though i really enjoy coffee. Any motivation appreciated

>> No.15239761

>>15197553
Jesus just use grams, who the fuck uses pounds for coffee?

>> No.15239927

>>15197553
~30 g per day so about 2 lb per month

>> No.15240284

>>15239478
no, but good luck lad.

>> No.15240387

>>15239036
Neither does Lavazza. Go to someone like Coffee Collective or Tim Wendelboe for that.

>> No.15240392

>>15239478
be confident in yourself! Good luck, I hope they give you the job

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>tfw mostly dialed in my Sidamo
jesus this is good
>>15239478
Good luck, go get 'em tiger.
I don't do anything coffee related professionally but legitimate enthusiasm for a job has usually helped me in interviews even if I spill my spaghetti.

>> No.15240716

>>15239478
Wear a plaid shirt. There are more third wave places than you think, that are more interested in the "Idea" of a contemporary, minimalist, specialty coffee shop. You want to fit that vibe too. Other than that, be yourself and don't be afraid to ask something like "Another specialty coffee shop opens down the street, they offer you a position there, working with top of the line equipment and a better salary, if you were to turn that down and stay here, why would that be?"

>> No.15241078

>>15239478
Show that you have an interest in coffee, but don't come of as a "coffee enthusiast" as those sorts don't really work well at most cafes - a lot of the work has nothing to do with coffee. Show that you have knowledge of the company you are applying for. And hopefully you're likeable - most of the interview is just a vibe check.

>> No.15241214

Postie just delivered my new Comandante grinder. Guess I'm not sleeping tonight