/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>15142201
The only reason i buy it (from europe here btw) is when i'm making really shit grilled cheese.
the only other reason is for hamburgers.

>>15142201
Use them for grilled cheese and cheeseburgers
That's it

>>15142206
German here American cheese is very popular, we have lots of good cheese but Kraft American singles is the highest selling SKU in large markets

>>15142201
they're actually decent in sandwiches, grilled cheese and burgers.
Quebec has an amazing range of cheeses, but they're not used for the stuff i mentioned above.

>>15142201
Elderly Americas are certainly much more likely to buy it than Millenials (and Zoomers I assume). They are ok for a few uses like burgers, but the quality of cheese at random ass suburban super markets is actually great both stuff from Wisconsin and Vermont or Europe

>>15142201
Unpopular opinion but there's literally nothing wrong with this stuff.

>>15142201
Thank you anon for speaking the truth.

I feel like if the people the buy it and the people that talk shit about it would both simultaneously stop existing if they just tried some deli American cheese.

>>15142201
A slice of this, a slice of bologna, a little bit of mayonnaise on white bread. That's heaven

>>15142201
how are you supposed to make a real patty melt then you stupid cuck?

>>15142316
I use a nice sharp cabot cheddar

>>15142311
what the heck is that product? How can american cheese be sharp? its not aged

>>15142400
>How can things be artificially flavored?

>>15142201
>cheese?
CHEESE?

I like cheese
Pee in me
I like cheese
Pee in me
I like cheese
Pee in me
I like cheese pee in me
Nigger yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Consume the cheese so i will be in oeeeee hahaa

>>15142201
I have kraft singles in my fridge. It's far more protein than more cheese and less kcal.

>>15142311
This. American cheese =/= kraft singles
Real American is a milky delight

>>15142444
Based retardposter

>>15142441
no artificial flavors moron

>>15142444
trips of true art

>>15142444
So fucking based

>>15142467
>>15142489
>dirty double
Duth donkey nigger dig nigger dig nigger dig nigger diiiiiig
A HOLE TO POOP IN I need
The nigger hole to poop into
Yes
I need nig dig big to fake my fig nig
Retard diiiiEEEEEEEEEEE

>>15142551
Piss pot pie friend
Piss pot pie :)

>>15142206
>>15142222
American, and this is pretty much it. I usually have some in the fridge in a pinch, but rarely use it. If I'm planning on burgers or lots of grilled cheese, I'm usually buying Real American cheese from the deli. The singles are just for when I go to use the deli cheese and it's gone bad since the singles keep for a long fucking time.

>>15142621
Its like a canned good. I have it around and use it when i have to improvise something and I have no good cheese

>>15142481
Yeah, where does it say that pray tell?

>>15142621
>I'm usually buying Real American cheese from the deli.
What makes it real?

>>15142797
It's actually 100% cheese, 0% plastic

>>15142222
These are king of the grilled cheese, since they melt so well. I use them for burgers too for that same reason.

>>15142400
Sharp American tends to be made from aged cheese. After all, real American cheese is just a pasteurized processed cheese.

>>15142201

I have heard they are good for melting on burgers. I normally keep shredded cheese and some deli cheeses like colby-jack and some sharp smoked cheddar.

>>15142712
and the natural flavors is just annatto to give it a little color. American cheese is just regular cheese with a emulsifier so it melts with separating

It's the only cheese that goes right with egg sandwiches

>>15142201
i want to go back

>>15142222
Nah, I use a slice of cheddar for burgers

>>15142201
They are good for grilled cheese. I have a bunch in my fridge. Shut the fuck up.

>>15142797
It's made from the actual cheesemaking process and not just the byproduct of that like normal american cheese.

>>15143244
Isn't that what government cheese was made of, the brick?

>>15142201
The reason Americans got the stereotype of not being able to make actual cheese and that all we have is kraft singles comes from government programs in the 1970s-80s. Before we figured out food stamps, the government would just straight up send people food. One of these was government cheese which was basically the equivalent of kraft singles but in a giant brick and was much firmer. For whatever reason, whatever our poorest eat becomes what foreigners think everyone here eats, it's like thinking that all chinese people eat dog.

>>15143322
The guberment cheese program was a subsidy for the dairy industry . Giving it to the poor was an afterthought because they had to do something with it.
They also gave butter

>>15143343
>The guberment cheese program was a subsidy for the dairy industry .
All food stamp/EBT programs are subsidies for the agriculture industry, it just also has the side effect of keeping people from going hungry.

Add a slice of this to your ramen

>>15143322
Most boomers legitimately did not eat much good cheese, and still do not. But its not because they couldn't, America has always made plenty of excellent cheese, it was just rather niche until Millennials started buying it a lot more (similar trends with food in general, the move from fast food to fast casual, from Olive Garden/Applebees to local places, from Bud Light to craft beer)

>>15143350
all social programs are designed to make poor people think they are getting something from the government, that is the primary purpose, if you can also hand out money to a not poor group to secure even more votes in the process thats a bonus

>>15143438
I would say cheddar is the exception, the one cheese we've always been able to make well is cheddar. In fairness it's an easy cheese to make, it doesn't require some overly complicated process.

>>15143446
I mean I was on EBT for a while and I was thankful for it because having to not be stressed out about food for that month is a big deal.

>>15143438
not in the North East, my elders never stopped bitch about how good their cheese used to be "my cheddar was so sharp it would crumble" etc.

>>15143464
If you were from upper class circles that is very plausible, but I don't think Uncle Tommy from Southie was doing that in the 80s

>>15143474
In the 80's they were still putting real provolone cheese on Philly cheese steaks, the though of whiz would have been blasphemy.

>>15143457
are you a single mom?

>>15142206
Literally this. I can not think of any other dishes I actually use this with except grilled cheese and burgers.

>>15142201
If you are so schooled in the wonderful world of cheese then obviously every American has one of pic related at home which coincidentally happen to be the Norwegians greatest and only invention and contribution to the civilized world

>>15143666
As a single Millennial midwestern man I can confirm I have one of those

>>15143666
Why does satan want me to buy a cheese knife?

>>15143603
>Literally this. I can not think

American cheese consumption is directly proportional to I.Q. its literally a superfood

>>15143692
oh buddy...don't do it!

>>15143683
You have passed the test and I like you, isn't it the midwest that has quite a lot of Scandinavian heritage or is it more like the midnorthern (can you even say that?)

>>15143686
rofl, look at that guy he is sooo short ^^

>>15143692
>American cheese consumption is directly proportional to I.Q.
I think you meant inversely proportional to IQ , no smart person would have so many slices on hand

>>15143746
> isn't it the midwest that has quite a lot of Scandinavian heritage
Yes, specifically the upper midwest, Wisconsin and Minnesota. Also where most of the cheese is made

>>15143692
Is that a real Tetra-Pak or a knockoff if it is then I approve even if it has one of those screwtops.

Actually I kind of like Kraft singles (haven't tried Velveeta) but I'm just guessing they aren't good for you seeing as they don't really behave like real cheese should but they are pretty tasty though just really expensive (if you eat a lot of cheese) unless you buy a bigpack of some generic brand if you have a store that stocks it near you that is.

>>15143749
> no smart person would have so many slices on hand

Does it expire? No
Does it increase in value? Yes
Is it healthy? Yes
Will I eat it? Yes

We can't all be in mensa but surely your ego will allow you to admit you are wrong

>>15143768
>I'm just guessing they aren't good for you seeing as they don't really behave like real cheese should
The primary difference between it and "real cheese" is just some emulsifiers like sodium citrate or sodium hexametaphosphate that relax the proteins and allow the cheese to be soft and melty. They're pretty boring and common salts that are used in a variety of foods, and you can add them to any cheese to give them the same properties.

>>15142201
You only eat it if you get high on weed at a poor person's house

>>15142279
Based "american euro solidarity poster" poster.

>>15143768
Velveeta (and its poor half cousin Kraft American) are cheese 2.0 hop on board

Scientists remove all the toxins and impurities in cheddar cheese and volaré you get velveeta. Poor people don't like it because it has half the calories and fat but rich (and smart) people prefer to be svelte and lithe and nimble not to mention joints as limber as a plastic wrapped slice of heaven.

>>15143759
Sweet!

>>15142201
>Most cheese eaten by educated middle class americans is of the highest quality available on the planet
No they don't, but pic related is way more common than the plastic shit in your OP and it's perfectly serviceable.

>>15143538
No I was just a guy down on his luck and trying to find work but not getting anything.

>>15142201
>I do not know a single person who has this plastic cheese product in their fridge.
it sucks when you have zero friends.

>>15143896
no middle class person buys Kraft, they at least are getting Sargento

>>15143692
Oh hey, I found someone else here that shops at winco.

>>15143848
Velveeta is good for melting down into nacho cheese for chips, but other than that I don't see a use for it.

>>15143796
Yes but why would you add it to real cheese I mean yes american cheese singles is fine but why ever put it in real cheese as well.

I generally prefer sulfate salts over citrates for no good reason at all other than I just do (hmm aren't citrates often a bit more hygroscopic than sulfates which of course are pretty hygroscopic as well but not at a retardedly high level but then again maybe you can't really generalize like that and I may be way off).

>>15143848
Why don't you have added Vitamin D in your dairy products I mean you only get so much sun hours each year so why not just put it in something everyone eats a lot of and it doesn't look that unhealthy and those are the mega singles packages I prefer to buy when I buy american cheese like 1kg or if it's only like 500g-800g but probably 1kg

>>15143930
Can't you just stop with your retarded class bullshit already it's starting to get real old by now

>>15142201
as much as it is fun to make fun of burgerland, there is a huge difference between "American Cheese" (similar to a bland cheddar) and "American Cheese Product" (kraft...tastes like melted plastic)

>>15144005
kraft is synonymous with low class boomers

>>15143930
isn't sargento only pre sliced cheese and pretty much equal to kraft block cheese? Cabot is only marginally better, after that you gotta walk over to the fancy cheese counter

>>15144030
Sargento is on par with cabot

>>15144021
Not even close to a boomer and just take your class bullshit and stick it where the sun don't shine, Kraft was ok when it was associated with Freia.

Are you really so stupid that you think rich people eat different things than poor people, yes they don't have to put everything they have into food to make it to the next day but there really isn't any difference on the products they consume so can't you just drop the whole class meme, it's getting fucking ancient by now

>>15142201
Velveeta is an elite product consumed only by the superior beings that know processed cheese is the only cheese that incorporates whey, thus decreases waste. Wasting is for the weak minded.

>>15144055
Except for the sale of Malaco because apparently what they make is candy but have to keep chocolate because chocolate isn't candy you twofaced fucks, should have been an offence that led to execution by firing squad if you ask me

>>15144055
>Kraft was ok when it was associated with Freia.
I don't even know what that means

>>15144055
The dietary habits of poor people are a lot different than those of middle and upper class people, thats (part of) why poor people are so much fatter than everyone else statistically. The brands we go to are different, the proportions of ingredients are different, the ways in which we cook

>>15144098
No, poor people are poor and stupid and fat because they are stupid and lazy

>>15144110
>because they are stupid and lazy
which also leads them to Kraft, its all connected

>>15144030
>Cabot is only marginally better
cabot i high quality cheese mate

>>15144156
i get better cheese from Aldi at a better price (just not that happy farm garbage)

>>15144087
Then educate yourself https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freia_(chocolate)

But Kraft should get a bunch of shit for selling Malaco the fucks and Mondelēz can fuck off for (well I'm going to blame them for the changes to the factory either way) adding soy and coconut bs among other shittiness with the recipes making it all taste but most importantly feel worse when you have it in the mouth.

R.I.P. the majestic almighty "Trillingnöt" you will always be remember together with the other fallen, you were too great for this shitty world and may the people responsible for your demise together with their whole families forever live in infamy and shame before the cancer (kind of likely actually) finally cleanse the world of their wicked ways.

Always loved and never forgotten, now it is almost time for your day of glory (christmas) only to forever be a reminder of how much worse and hollow the world (of chocolate) will forever be without your glorious presence why couldn't it have been you who rose again after the wicked slew you oh almighty "Trillingnöt", will the pain ever heal ah "Trillingnöt".

Pic related is how to improve the second layer or the Alladinbox.

Never thought Marabou of all would be the ones to make Christmas worse but you know what I'm blaming Kraft and both selling Malaco and removing the "Trillingnöt" are such grave offences (even worse than the Coca-Cola Companies pathetic attempts of trying to get people to drink Coke instead of "Julmust" during winter and especially the holidays) that you know what just fuck those evil rotten bastards, sure the Malaco thing I guess I learned how to live with seeing as they still exist it just seemed like a retarded decision but making the "Trillingnöt" kill which impacts fuckin' Christmas of all things is just plain evil.

>>15144156
this stuff is pretty good and about the same price as kraft, also in FL cabot is cheaper then kraft, by like $0.50

>>15144098
Obviously you have never eaten and/or lived with rich, poor or people with an ok economy which would be like most of the people because that is just bullshit

>>15144196
yeah, i don't care about any of this

>>15144220
Just fucking go to a grocery store in the inner city and one in the suburbs and tell me the relative stock of Kraft cheese vs fancy cheese

>>15144221
Then why did you ask and this is a great example for why we just can't have nice things

>>15142325
It wont melt as good. And even you know it.

>>15142201
I'm a french dude and as much as I like non pasteurised extremely strong cheeses, I find that the best cheese to add to a burger is this cooked blended slices of bland greasiness.
It's not great for anything else sadly.

>>15144231
What are you talking about stores in cities have a great amount of choice when it comes to products and a lot better prices than the countryside plus bigger stores (lower prices from the distributors/producers, bigger selections and the ability to lower the prices and still make a shit ton of money due to the lowered prices on products, lower rents and large amounts of customers that flock to you) usually opt to put themself outside of city centers to keep costs down but usually there are a bunch of parking spaces and buses/trains pretty much always stop there.

I mean if you buy food items at your local little kiosk at a huge markup fine but don't fucking compain about it, if you're unlucky enough to live at the countryside where you often don't even have a choice but have to buy at the poorly stocked overpriced shitty stores then yes those people I do pity because it sucks but anyone living in a city rofl give me a break they don't realize how freakin' lucky they are

Also what would what you propose ever prove other than the store manager and employees being retards and do you have any freakin' idea how much time and effort it takes to market a "new" item to your potential customers, it doesn't really take much work as not much really does you pretty much tell people what to do and they do it for some reason but it just doesn't happen like that and takes time.

>>15142201
I use it for grilled cheeses fuck off fag

>>15144231
i was a dirt poor renter in FL and lived walking distance to one of the most expensive properties in the USA worth $ 195 million, we both had to use the same stores.

>>15142206
>>15142222
>>15142621
>>15142865
>he doesn't fold them into quarters and eat them between saltine crackers with a dollop of regular yellow mustard while leaning against the kitchen counter in semi-darkness and wondering where his life went wrong
why are you people even visiting /ck/

>>15144238
>It wont melt as good. And even you know it.
I dont really care about how it melts as long as it does somewhat and has great flavor.
I am far more concerned with flavor than texture

>>15144231

>>15144281
Ingles in butfuk NC have a amazing cheese counter half thew length of the store with cheeses from around the world

>>15144291
Be gentle on the classfaggot don't burst his bubble that all rich people eat nothing but Beluga caviar all day and poor people eating nothing but literal shit and sniff Jenkem all day, his whole life and identity depends on it damnit!

>>15144299
checked
>reality sets in

>>15144281
the countryside and the suburbs are not the same thing

>>15144291
ok, but that is extremely unusual with how US cities are layed out. Most poor communities are rather sequestered from the normal people, this is obviously less true in the south where people are just much poorer overall

>>15144313
Where on earth are you finding cheese that doesn't melt, like seriously O.o

>>15144330
Yes really great stores do exist in the countryside but they are often very few and real far in between unfortunately which is one of the shittiest things about living on the countryside well that and no work, too silent, too few people, too little that happens and so on

>>15144343
True because pretty much everything about a city is great when it comes to living there while the countryside is pretty shitty and boring and the suburbs/inner city has such a great range of things to choose from with such ridicoulusly low prices that I can't help from wanting to stomp every spoiled citydweller that ever have the nerve to complain about ANYTHING about their lives fucking cunts, try throwing away years at the countryside instead of complaining you assholes.

>>15144417
*Stomp in the face of course

The only thing that is worse is when immigrants complain about how sorry people should feel for them buhuu their oppressed and buhuuhuu when they have whole fucking areas close to the city center and just because they aren't necessarily billionares they are so oppressed, get over your bullshit or get out and let people from the country get some fucking prime realestate and jobs you fucking ungrateful parasites (no it's not rascist because that goes for everyone with that fucking victim mentality not only immigrants and I guess it's the politicians, companies that can profit from pretty much slave labour, banks that can lend out more money at interest seeing as grown up people flood the country that all of a sudden can take loans instantly and gets a whole bunch of money to burn as soon as they get in and everyone that have worthless makebelieve jobs that are dependent on it and everyone that supports it and not them themselves as they are more like cattle being manipulated and sold in a sense), it's just bullshit that they get a home in the best parts of the country with the most jobs and a clean slate so they could take loans if they want to for some reason a whole bunch of money from the state not to mention all the economical help if they want to start a company while people born here have to wait in line to hopefully get an apartement it 8-12 years while having hard times to even find work during that time because of living in shitty areas of the country.

It's all just bullshit and I am sick and tired of hearing you morally bankrupt idiots dividing the people into classes, trying to put people in a specific folder so to speak and put people against eachother while flooding the country with immigrants that I don't really have anything against but can't stand hearing about how they are somehow oppressed when they get a fucking red carpet out and are treated like royalty but are never freakin' happy

>>15142295
>BuT iT's PrOcEsSeD

>>15142201
>Most cheese eaten by educated middle class americans is of the highest quality available on the planet.
lmao you niggers can't even have cheese made from raw milk. You never even had something as basic as reblochon. Get lost.

>>15145101
>lmao you niggers can't even have cheese made from raw milk
This is a myth

>>15144964
making cheese is a process

>>15142201
>He doesn't use it to hydrogenize his home made mac and cheese to maintain creamy consistency
What are you even doing mate?

>>15143749
Ugh, she looks just like my cousin who married into my family. I feel so bad for her. She looks like arnold schwarzenegger right before his head is about to explode on mars.

>>15145147
thats the funny part. Its extremely arbitrary to call some cheese processed but not others

Like the whole bullshit around "natural foods" agriculture is extremely unnatural, unless you are foraging or hunting and eating it raw you aren't fucking eating natural food

>>15145150
just use a roux ffs

>>15145165
Exactly and you can make American with a quality cheddar like >>15142925 >>15142311

>>15142935
This anon knows what's up. I hate Kraft singles 99% of the time, the other 1% is on an egg sandwich and I have no explanation for this.

>>15142222
Normal sliced cheese works perfectly fine if it's the right type.

>>15142201
I keep this in my fridge only for burgers or chopped cheese sandwiches. There is no other good use for american cheese.

Its just young cheddar with emulsifiers, preservatives, and whey added.

>>15145877
no, the entire point of American cheese is that the oils don't separate like other cheeses that leave you with a greasy mess.

>>15142201
>I am an American yet I do not know a single person who has this plastic cheese product in their fridge.
It was very popular back in the 90s.
As food/health consciousness grew it became less popular.

>>15142621
It's never my first choice for grilled cheese, but the high quality cheese always runs out first.

>>15142201
Eurotrash here, I love my high end cheese but picrel cant be beat for grilled cheese, burgers and proppa sloppa mac cheese

>>15142201
Every person I know who uses American cheese uses it in Macaroni or for burgers.
Macaroni specifically for the "melty" texture and not the taste, which is essentially a shitty white cheddar and thus gets covered by actual cheeses while still being melty. For burgers, it's almost a similar reason too except it doesn't have the flavor hidden by a superior cheese unless the cheese slice paired with the american cheese is also cheddar.

>>15145952
It's a good thing to add to any grilled cheese along with other cheeses even. The citrating salts that make it melt smooth work to emulsify other cheeses as well.

>>15145985
never tried mixing it, feel like a waste of a better cheese but if what you're saying is true...big if true

>>15142400
It's aged...why in the fuck wouldn't it be?

>>15146074
Because /int/ told me american cheese was melted plastic wrapped in more plastic

>>15146188
/int/ that's like a knockoff /pol/

>>15142201
I'm a professional chef and I use American cheese for making burgers, grilled cheese sandwiches, and also budaejigae. It has unique melting properties that can't be found in any "real" cheese.

>>15143686
Best way to harvest dick cheese

>>15142201
this thread is tl;dr but I think enough Americans are self-aware of the plastic cheese. the next people to bully are the ones that buy pre-grated cheese.