/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>15121789
>That grind consistency
>That flat bed
you using a spoon or swirling? Looks great either way

Today I had my coffee with some cookie dough and milk mixed in

I've been enjoying some brazillian coffee aged in a bourbon barrel from a local place that my mom found. I've liked that sort of thing since happy mug did a series of small batches aged in various alcohol barrels. It's been a while since I've had any like that so I was glad to get another.
I broke my french press the other day but had a spare lying around so I'm all good.

>>15123260
>mixed in
pre or post-brew? I've never tried putting something so solid in mine, just cardamom or cocoa powder.

I'm getting more of a seared bite on the Aeropress, than I'm getting on the actual V Six- no no no no no no no no.... No please don't say that no no no... No. Nonononono. No no nono no no. NONO NO NONO NO NO NOOOOO. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm not gonna trip. I wanted to come in a 100% hater.

I'mma tell you off the top. I wanted to take a sip of this and be like 'ehhh nah nah it don't it it'- I'mma just flat out say it; your Aeropress /ck/, IS BETTER THAN YOUR ACTUAL V SIXTY /CK/. YOUR AEROPRESS /CK/ IS BETTER THAN YOUR ACTUAL V SIXTY /CK/. IT HAS A MORE SEARED TASTE.

IT'S MORE OF A BREWOUT FLEX. IT JUST TASTES BETTER. Get over here. You get back in the cabinet. /ck/. That sip is so flavorful my m- and the fact that it works so well, it literally compliments the aroma. Like I'm not even mad that I'm sippin' up, and I'm not even mad, that I'm sipping coffee right now with my breakfast.

You can really taste the chocolate notes because the sear, on this press based situation right here, it's so strong and you barely get nutty notes but the notes are there so you get a crunch off it, with soft fruity action with BPA? /CK/, YOU'RE ONTO SOMETHING, AND I LIKE WHERE YOU, YOU GOIN' /CK/, THE AEROPRESS COFFEE SON!

>>15123456
Post, the flavour didn't come through too much and just made the brew kind of sludgy

any coffee bean retailers going to have a black friday sale?

Community Coffee breakfast blend.

>>15122892
Just a few swirls today. Usually I'll agitate with the dumb kruve spoon(actually incredibly useful and not a bad buy for $10) but I was too lazy to go get it.

cobbe beans

I'm looking to buy a digital kitchen scale for general purposes but I'm not autistic about my coffee. Just wondering what functions and capability you look for in a good coffee scale. As long as the scale can measure reliably, tare weight, and measure in intervals of 0.1 grams then that covers 90% of it right? I don't care about apps and stuff.

>tfw nobody has V60 size 01 brewer in stock near me

Perc folgers black silk + baileys, at midnight. I'm at my parents' for thanksgiving so this is what's hand. It werks I guess
>inb4 virus

>>15124523
I would say it also need a relatively fast response time.

>>15123456
My old place in Vancouver was trying that out with some single origin Guatemalan before I went home. I never got to try it, but I did get to smell the beans, smelt beautiful.
>>15123863
Maybe, the coof has made green beans cheaper, but then again, they might just use it as an excuse to sell you overstock.
>>15124523
Something that can go to .1 of a gram and that has a decent response time. When you get to the higher end you can get ones that can give you information in regards to your flow rate. But you're talking the kind of money that could be spent on a much better grinder

Have been testing a new Ethiopian. My third batch is a win. First attempt was at a city roast, which was fruity, but not overwhelmingly so. Some berries going on, some other kind of fruits I'm not capable of isolating. A faint whiff of florals. There was an annoying hint of herbal and anise which kind of dragged down the lightness. Felt...unfull. Not rounded.

Second batch I roasted to what I believe is something between a city and full city. I'm always scared of overroasting anything delicate. The rando fruits toned down. I picked up a hint of blueberry. The anise flavor at city began to be replaced by chocolate. Like a semi-sweet chocolate.

The thrid batch at full city completely removed the licorice-like taste, and the blueberry is much more prominant. Full on 70% dark chocolate covered blueberries. Fucking fantastic. Somehow very well-rounded now, clean finish. This is my lovely Christmas coffee.

I recently started putting a dash of turmeric on my coffee (and tea). I recommend.

How do you take your coffee?
Milk, no sugar.

>>15125166
As part of a complete diet.

How much caffeine is in a 6 cup Bialetti moka pot? I drank one today and I'm about to make myself another one but don't want to OD on coffe

I live in southern California. Anybody know of some good decaf for espresso?

>>15125626
>>15125626
I googled this extensively. You can determine the approximate caffeine content of a cup of coffee based on the amount of coffee grounds you use. The 6 cup Bialetti can hold about 20g of coffee.

Based on what I read this can produce like 110-180mg of caffeine, or about the equivalent or one or two cups. This varies based on the grind and beans that you use (as well as the brewing method but moka pots brew the same way mostly).

The maximum (medically defined) "safe" level of caffeine is around 300mg a day for a healthy adult. Having 2 6 cups a day is probably okay, but it is nearing the higher levels of caffeine consumption.

I'll be drinking this bad boy today and every day for the foreseeable future since my wife's aunt and uncle brought us half a kilo's worth of coffee

>>15125917
My nigger. This shit is cash.

>>15125926

I could easily drink this every day if my body let me

I haven't had anything other than pour over since the start of the year.

Help me bros, the horrible desire to upgrade to espresso is kicking in

>>15125626
don't even worry about it, I've consumed upwards of 700mg in a day before with no ill effects

>>15122874
used to drink hipster coffees made with aeropress and freshly ground beans but it's really not worth it. just spoon a bit of cheapest insta to hot choco nowadays

caffein addiction is nasty

>>15125973
espresso machine? you'll be disappointed

>>15125973
Cost it out before you decide to pull the trigger. It costs a lot more than you may realise, that doesn't mean it's not worth it.

>>15126250
soccer-mom-tier meme
I bet most "coffee addicts" are Karens who drench coffee in sugar
Coffee is in general a pretty healthy drink

>tfw to stupid to make good coffee

>>15126806
>French press
>Scales
>Stopwatch
>Pen and paper
>Write down water weight, coffee weight and time brewed
That's all you need to do

>>15126900

>>15126782
$500 for a flair and a hand grinder. Not too hard to price out.

>Why yes, I do drink Maxwell House every day. What gave it away?

>>15126998
and how much for a grinder that'll give you consistency in your espresso? Couple of hundred depending on what you decide to go for. Then you gotta get your coffee and be prepared to waste a small/moderate amount of it too for figuring out how much pressure to apply and your grind and dose.
If you end up going with something that uses pressurised steam, the same more or less applies but now you need to factor in cleaning supplies(Because it's very fucking important. Pic related) and money you'll spend on learning to froth milk and practice latte art(If that's your thing)
The cost can quickly tick up. If you drink espresso every day and will use it every day at home, then go for it. It's even better when you know how to use one too.
The last thing you want is for it to end up next to your nutri-bullet and George Foreman grill being unused and not getting you moneys worth from your investment.

>>15127172
based

I've been drinking lavazza dark roast drip, can someone recommend me something better kinda tired of it.

Blogpost: I intend to consume several cups of coffee today. Thanks for reading.

>>15127198
...


>$500 for a flair and a hand grinder.

When someone posts a concise 15 words, read them all.
>Flair Signature Black - Blemished
1 $159.20 USD
Pressure Gauge Kit
1 $50.00 USD
Subtotal $209.20 USD
Total $209.20 USD
Payment $209.20 USD

Kinu M47 Phoenix 1 $199.00


>$500
>$500
>$500

Even gave you an extra ~$100 because they don't always have scratch and dents available. With that extra hundred, you can get a bellman. Don't repost shit from 2015 and feign authority on a subject.

Anyone have trouble pushing the plunger down in a french press sometimes? I don't know what's causing it but it's fucking impossible. I unplunge and push back down, nothing. I take it out and stir it, nothing. Some days it just decides to not let me push down on it, despite the fact my grind is the same every time. If I do brute force it, coffee shoots up out of the container. It's getting really obnoxious.

Good morning, Thanksgiving morning

>>15122874
bought pic related
its shit
sending it back
pls recommend me something good and cheap

>>15127363
any drip brewer but with a fantastic grinder and decent beanz

>>15127306
Didn't read the second part so happy to concede on the price of a flair and a grinder. But I want to reiterate, I'm not saying you shouldn't, I'm saying be very sure that you want to. There's nothing worse than seeing the kit just sitting on a counter top as a decoration or just not being used.
>>15127363
Not picking on you, but this is kinda what I'm talking about. You need to know what you want, and what will be able to deliver that for you. Doing the work before hand will benefit you in the future. If you don't enjoy it, you won't use it and it doesn't matter how sweet of a deal you got or the stupid amount of money you spent in hindsight, that won't be enough to motivate you to use it. But if you do love it, if you love a morning espresso, tinkering, measuring your flow rate, temperature and then putting some of your shot into a refractometer to measure the tds, then you'll love whatever you get because you'll buy what will allow you to do that and you'll use it every day.
I'm not feigning authority, just saying think it through.

>>15127616
>I'm not saying you shouldn't, I'm saying be very sure that you want to.

And I'm saying $500 is a pittance for a "proper" espresso setup like a flair. I'd rather that sit around than to see someone give breville any more money for plastic internals that will crack over time sitting dry. Ideally you'd want to start out with a cheap, low maintenance, like a fully manual, over a gaggia or rancillo you'll double your investment modding opvs and piding etc etc. Stop trying to discourage people from trying things they're interested in. You're making up artificial "hurdles" like


>Then you gotta get your coffee

You're telling me COFFEE is an expense when you're making COFFEE? Stop the fucking presses man.

>factor in cleaning supplies

Jesus christ.

Sifted pourover #2. 50/50 ethiopian honey and elsalva black honey. Assuming if I actually brushed my bottom sieve between brewings I'd significantly less fines on the cone like before.

>>15127946
>making me thirst for craft coffee with no intention of sharing

>>15127829
>>15127616
>>15125973
Flair is definitely worth it. I've had it for 2 years. First thing I got tired of was manually grinding. I won't upgrade the Flair until I can afford 3.5k on the Olympia Cremina.

>>15129383
> tired of was manually grinding

Eh I kind of enjoy the process. I've also got a real nice machine for stringing tennis racquets I've upgraded as much as I can, but I tend to use my $200 dropweight more. I may just be weird.

For me, it's silly cups from goodwill.

>tfw Stagg EKG is on sale at Costco
>tfw don't have Costco membership
>tfw still too expensive

>>15126806
>>15126900
Oh my god nigga you cannot be serious
>Stopwatch
Just give it a few minutes, you don't have to be autistic
>Pen and paper
What the fuck
>Write down water weight, coffee weight and time brewed
Why tf, if you use the same god damn cafetiere every time then it will fit the same amount of water in it every time, again, you don't have to be autistic over 2g extra water

Literally just work out how many cups you get from your cafetiere, chuck in about 15g per cup of coarse ground coffee leave it a few minutes. Press. If it's too weak, use more coffee next time.
And don't use boiling water, give it a minute or so after boiling to cool down a bit

>>15129587
I enjoy the manual espresso machine, but getting the electric grinder has made the workflow very efficient. I can pull shots back-to-back very quickly.

For me, it's Folgers out of the $10 coffee maker I got at Wal-Mart. I drink 5 cups every morning.

I enjoyed a pad coffee with milk

>>15130886
Yeah makes sense. I haven't snagged any additional baskets/groupheads. I went straight into roaster+lunar+sep.

>didn't enjoy coffee
>years later got into it
>enjoyed different kinds of coffee
>consume it moderately (not more than one cup a day, usually several days apart)
>lately have troubles handling the caffeine
>sometimes even a cup makes me jittery and dizzy, get palpitations

dafuq happened? how do I minimise the effect of caffeine while still enjoying the taste of coffee?

Blogpost update.
Had two coffees.
Didn't enjoy them.
Maybe tomorrow.

>>15129383
I'm going to imagine that your setup is always that neat

Gotta go drink more cawfee. Work is boring and I need something to help me pass the time

>>15130784
>Just give it a few minutes
Yeah and have unpredictable extraction
>if you use the same god damn cafetiere every time then it will fit the same amount of water in it every time
Different coffees bloom very differently, and even the same coffee will bloom different depending on freshness. Measure your water.
>coarse ground coffee
You don't need coarsely ground coffee for french press
>press
Don't agitate the grounds unnecessarily
>And don't use boiling water
Use boiling water if you have light roast beans.

It's okay for you to brew imprecisely but it's not the best way. Learn a bit about coffee, then start talking shit.

>>15122874
A very nice Kenyan peaberry. Lovely acidity and flavor. I mostly use a V60

>>15131518
>Use boiling water for light roast
Ahh yes, drink underroasted coffee you have to burn to get down you, good idea
>You don't need coarse ground coffee for French press
Do you know what a french press is?
>Don't press
You're supposed to fucking press a cafetiere before you pour your coffee you megatard
>Learn a bit about coffee
Nigga i run a coffee roasting company. The average dude isn't fucking expected to weight and document every part of making a coffee, just fucking brew it and enjoy, it's fine that you're an autist, but not everyone here is.

>Bought a €50 hario grinder
>Got what I fucking deserve
I need to save up and fast, I can't do this much longer. Put 30g in and got all these boulders out. I think I could get a more consistent grind if I stood on it.

I've decided to up my brew game and get myself a moka pot, cause I love me a small and strong cuppa. Any purchase tips? I've got an induction stove so my choices are limited. I've been looking at the 2-cup Bialetti Venus (picrel).

Also, what should I look for in beans for a moka? I gather medium-light roasts are the common recommendation.
Storage tips also appreciated, since I only drink a cup a day, whichever beans I buy are going to stay at my place for some time.

I'm drinking Yerba Mate It's good stuff unless it's not but i like it. It taste like smasched cigaretes.

Try it out someday it's not bat at all.

>>15131141
How's the Lunar, considering its price?


>>15131421
My whole home is pretty neat. Both my wife and I keep the house spotless, so there's plenty of time to organize, even with kids.

>>15131551
If you actually ran a coffee company, you'd know that 100°C won't burn shit in coffee; coffee roasters go way higher. Higher temperature water only extracts more. But sure, drink overroasted bitter shit you have to dance around to not have taste like mud. And you still won't get any origin charasteristics aka good flavor from that shit.
>Do you know what a french press is?
Yes, an infusion brewer. No need to grind super coarse. If finely ground coffee will get to your cup, so will the fines from any coarser grind.
>You're supposed to fucking press a cafetiere
So you're saying you know how to brew a french press better than someone who was the world barista champion?

>The average dude isn't fucking expected to weight
Yeah but the average dude is fine with an ok cup. If you want a repeatedly excellent cup, measure that shit. And if you're up to debating coffee on 4chan you're more than autistic enough to use a scale, get over yourself.

>>15131870
I've got no issues with it. Its literally the only smart scale that'll fit under the flair, other than the new smaller cinco or whatever for $30 more. I use it for drugs too so having hundredth of a gram res is helpful. + you know, washable.

Any tips for making coffee with a Vietnamese drip filter?

>>15131533
I tasted Popcorn and marshmellows when I had some Kenyan peaberry. Probably one of the best coffees for milk based and cheap too.

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. 2:1 black honey to eth honey. I'll have to roast more tomorrow. Might knock out my shitty christmas gift roasts tomorrow and just get those mailed out early.

>>15131551
>>15132505
You know this thread should just be renamed specialty coffee general so that retards stop coming in and posting about their instant coffee or old burnt beans or spouting shit like,
>I like my coffee black cause I like the bitterness and it makes me a man

>>15132505
Yes they do go higher than 100c, i roast in excess of 200c daily, however, green beans, if you aren't a complete tard, you'd probably realise that raw beans have a higher moisture content than roasted beans, hence they burn far more easily.
>Overroasted
Kek I think you mean properly developed, if you're having to use water over 98c then the coffee is too acidic, just give it slightly longer development time in roasting to knock that shit out properly
>If finely ground coffee will get to your cup, so will the fines from any coarser grind
Right okay fag, go make a cafetiere with espresso ground coffee, then go make one with cafetiere ground coffee, and see the difference in bits in your cup
>So you're saying you know how to brew a french press better than someone who was the world barista champion?
It's literally in the name you idiot, french PRESS. Yes there are ways of getting weird and wonderful cups of coffee which astound people and win competitions, hence why some people brew espresso at really low pressure/temps, the stuff that wins competitions is very different to the stuff drank by most people, the reason being is that while it might taste very interesting, which is good for comps, it's not good for daily drinking
>You're more than autistic enough to use a scale
Yes, i am, i weigh my coffee, i don't however, weigh the water into the cafetiere as i know you will not taste the difference unless drinking coffees back to back, a cup of coffee made with 10ml more water is not going to be discernable a day after drinking it previously, get over yourself faggot

>>15133117
Don't

>>15134016
y tho.

>>15125179
Amen

I feel like Ive outgrown the flair which Ive had for the last 6 months and now Im thinking of upgrading to a La Pavoni which Ill probably buy around late next year. Any flair to La Pavoni lever fags can tell me if theres an actual improvement in your daily cup of coffee or is the experience and quality of coffee kinda the same with all lever machines?

>>15131638
Did you adjust the grind? I have a €50 hario hand-grinder from years ago that ground finer than that...

>>15134007
>green beans
What do you think light roasted coffee is? I'm pretty sure >99% is at least at first crack.
>raw beans have a higher moisture content than roasted beans, hence they burn far more easily.
Yes, because water is well-known for its inflammability
>properly developed
Well, this really is a matter of taste
>water over 98c
You know it rapidly drops well below that in the brewing vessel, right?
>espresso ground coffee
Of course not espresso grind, more like medium/medium-fine. But not coarse either. But that's my bad for poor wording
>It's literally in the name you idiot, french PRESS
Well the first modern french press was patented by an Italian, even though french is in the name so that means nothing

Not pressing the french press isn't some competition trick, it's easy and actually improves results (less fines in the cup)

Yeah, it's not such a big deal but for someone starting out it's good to eliminate all variables so they can learn the process and dial in.

>>15136410
>What do you think light roasted coffee is? I'm pretty sure >99% is at least at first crack.
Exactly, so when it's roasted it has less moisture and is easier to burn, there is a reason why mocha pots are so looked down upon and that reason is that if you leave it for any longer than absolutely necessary, it burns.
>Well, this really is a matter of taste
To a degree, yes, but if you're having to use boiling water, then it's probably too acidic
>You know it rapidly drops well below that in the brewing vessel, right?
Yes if you were to pour it in the cafetiere without it touching the coffee grinds, then sure. But typically the water will instantly touch the coffee while it's too hot
>Not pressing the french press isn't some competition trick, it's easy and actually improves results (less fines in the cup)
Can't see how it gets less fine grounds in the cup, but whatever, I'll take your word for it maybe I'll give it a go sometime, however, if you didn't use such fine coffee, it wouldn't be an issue

>>15136475
>when it's roasted it has less moisture and is easier to burn
Yes and therefore lighter roasts wouldn't burn anyways? But the point is that boiling water doesn't burn things, it simply extracts more. The bitterness is already in the coffee and a brew that's too hot simply brings it out. This is not such a problem with light roasts because they aren't as bitter to begin with.
> if you're having to use boiling water, then it's probably too acidic
You don't use boiling water to necessarily mellow acidity, but rather to extract better. Light roasts need this because they're generally harder to extract.
>. But typically the water will instantly touch the coffee while it's too hot
The temperature will drop very rapidly, it'll probably already be below boiling once it's poured. And if you extract for, say, 4 minutes, it's not such a big deal that the first three seconds are too hot, it's much worse if the last minute is too cold.
>Can't see how it gets less fine grounds in the cup
The pressing agitates the water bringing fines that have fallen to the bottom back up again.
> if you didn't use such fine coffee, it wouldn't be an issue
But then you'd extract less. And every grinder produces some fines at every grind setting.

Coof

MY HEART'S BEATING MY HEART'S FUCKING BEATING BUT I'M STILL SIPPING I'M STILL BREWING

Why the fuck are kalita and v60 filters so pricey for what they are? Is there any cone which takes cheap filters and isn't made of plastic?

>>15138060
L2coffeesock

The absolute fucking state of this general. I really need to get around to writing a pastebin.

>>15138103
Doesn't filter cafestol and kahweol

>>15138181

Try not being a fat fuck and/or having bad genes and you don't have to worry about your cholesterol.

>>15131735
I have the Bialetti 1 cup because i like it fresh. i use Illy ground beans for moka pots, you can but it at some grocery stores or online

>>15125917
isn't half a kilo a pound...?
Like, a totally normal amount of coffee?

>*our special Christmas blend*
>burnt to shit dark roast verging on charcoal

Why do they do this?

>>15138246
Or you could use paper filters instead of a fucking sock

>>15140260
He's bitching about the price of paper filters. I offered a buy once solution. The issue here is his health isn't worth a few cents per cup.

https://www.healthline.com/health/high-cholesterol/coffee-link#benefits-of-coffee

>inb4 is coffee good for you

can anyone recommend a bean with strong blueberry notes?

Having some trouble with my V60 lads, still very slow on the drawdown (4mins+) tastes hollow/overextracted but not awful

Tried grinding coarser and slightly cooler water and a lower dose
Best results I got;
18g coffee 350g brew, 40s bloom

Got a feeling it might be grind inconsistency (cheap electric burr grinder)

>>15140931
Blueberry jellybeans

>>15141139
try grinding a little bit finer (or at least undo the extra coarseness you added). less water. no need to make water cooler. lightly stir the bloom to make sure everything is soaked evenly. extremely slow pour.

but yeah a cheap grinder will cause a lot of fines. i found that grinding coarser on a shitty grinder actually clogs more. i could be wrong though.

>>15141150
Thanks Anon I'll try this later
I've been thinking about upgrading my grinder anyway but I don't have a lot of room in my kitchen, the only decent quality ones I can find are massive

>>15141205
i just got a comandante recently actually. quite pricey but it's an absolute unit and should last for life. you could also check out kinu, 1z, or timemore for handgrinders.

>the I've slept for almost 10 hours afternoon sip
Anyone else?

>>15131735
Only two kinds of Moka pots you really need a normal 3 cup or the one that creates the creme. All the other ones are too big too small or memes.

Good morning.

>>15141646
Morning moka bro
>>15131735
Get a baletti, but I recommend 3 cup. 3 cup is about the size of a double shot, maybe slightly bigger. Also try to get an Italian market import. They tend to be nicer. I like the dama nuova look.

As for beans I personally find very light beans to come out like shit and overly acidic. Don't get beans with a white center vien. Get ones that are at least light toasted brown all over like aldis breakfast blend. Also if you don't have a grinder, I like to buy whole bean and grind at grocery coffee grinders. That way it's the right grind size since you want it finer than most coffee bags are, but a little less fine than brick coffee.

>>15141139
>18g coffee 350g brew, 40s bloom

350/16=22. Up your dose, but yeah, get a grinder.

I never drink coffee but had 3 and a half strong cups today. I'm sweating, feel anxious, have diarrhea, and my heart is pounding. Is this normal?

Too much autism in a thread about a relaxing beverage. Put some grounds in this thing with water (I don't measure either) and mix 60/40 with milk when brewed. Plus 2 spoons of sugar

>>15142162
ps I'm a spider

>>15141867
>white center vien
>grind at grocery coffee grinders
>>15142162
>cafe bustelo
>60/40 with milk
>2 spoons of sugar
absolute state of mokafags

>uber casual coffee drinker
>cafe verona every day, black
what do i try next nippas?

Some local brand, in a moka pot, a bit of italian sweet cream. Probably be drinking a lot today & tomorrow.

>>15122874
>Moka pot coffee.
>Got it from the grocery bulk coffee bin: Kenyan beans, medium roast
>Capresso grinder, moka pot, stovetop

flatbedlife. Post your beds boys.

>>15142284
I forget what the roaster term is, but the really light coffee always gave a white or cream line down the middle. Also considering bustelo tastes like charcoal, drinking it with a good amount of milk makes sense. That or personally I would only drink it as a cubano.

>>15145178
Silver skin. It's the innermost layer of the coffee cherry surrounding the seed found under the parchemnt. AKA: chaff. It's very thin and papery, and flies all over the place during roasting. Wet-processed coffees usually remove more of it overall than dry-processed coffees, although this is not always the case. The amount of silver skin left inside the seed's crevice has to do with roast level and seed shape. The darker the roast, the more likely the last little bit of chaff escapes the seed cleft, however, larger, denser beans sometimes just do not let go of the crack chaff because of the shape. It it tasteless and does not affect most brewing methods with the exception of espresso. It can be removed via sifting very fine grinds. I have a wet-procesed coffee right now that retains that little bit of chaff even at a full city or vienna, and an intensely fruited dry-process that has almost none after cinnamon, but both are very good coffees. It's a silly thing to judge a coffee by.

Coof

>>15145531
I loved the coffee lesson, but I'm afraid you misunderstood my point. Its not that beans with a silver chaff are bad; I've enjoyed the aldis donut blend in my french press which is very light and has a sliver chaff. That anon was asking for moka pot coffee recommendations. In my 2 year experience very light coffee that has a silver chaff come out unappealing and so acidic sometimes it causes my half&half to curdle a bit. Imo beans that are at least cinnamon to medium roasted are best in a moka pot. I use my French press for lighter coffees.

>>15143782

>>15147011
I just wanted to talk about coffee.
:)

What's the best hand grinder if I mainly (pretty much only) drink cold brew? And is the pic rel list (source below) decent or bullshit? Looking to spend 100 or 120 max. Prefer hand grinder due to lack of counter space.

https://www.luckybelly.com/best-coffee-grinder-for-cold-brew/

>>15147733
(I know four of the ones on the list are not hand grinders, disregard those, I'm asking about the three hand grinders specifically)

>>15147152
Cumberland Farms has the best coffee. 7/11 has the best danish. Economically speaking of course.

>>15143782
That looks awfully coarse for a drip

Just memepressed this. Yesterday I did the same but it came out like shit, too acidic and kind of watery. Today, used a medium grind, but mainly bloomed a little longer, used hotter water, and pressed more slowly. Came out delicious

>>15147815
31grams at 1:16 in 3:45. Went a little coarser than usual since these unbleached filters are a bit slower.

>>15148104
Nice, now don't change all those variables at the same time ever again, just change the grind to taste
t. Veteran memepresser

Decided to use the drip machine for a change for my afternoon/ early evening coffee, little italian sweet cream.

>>15139754
>Bag says light roast
>Beans are medium-dark and oily
That's what I get for supporting my local roastery, I guess.

does /ctg/ have a tier list of grinders/brewers or whatever that is generally agreed upon?

>>15139754
Christmas coffee from my local roasters: medium anaerobic nicaragua caturra and light washed colombian gesha. Expensive for me but maybe ill try the gesha with a friend who's into coffee.

>>15149333
yeah here it is

grinders
>god tier
monolith flat max
>mid tier
niche zero
>shit tier
baratza anything
>neet cope tier
hand grinders of any kind

brewers
>god tier
aeropress
decent espresso
>mid tier
SCA certified auto drip brewer with timer
lever espresso machine
>fedora tier
v60, chemex, other manual pour overs
>retiree tier
semi-auto espresso machines
>shit tier
everything else

>>15149828
Fuck off.

>>15149828
Virtually identical bed to the last post in the last thread. Off a hand grinder. Fucking presslets man.

what's a good god tier coffee I can get for cheap in Canada?

>>15150316
>god tier coffee
>cheap

No such thing exists.

>>15150429
give me one of both for canada then please babe

>go to doctor
>blood pressure in the caution zone for hypertension the last year or so of testing
>doc tells me to cut down on coffee
it's over

>>15150478
Best
BC: Luna, Pallet, Bows & Arrows
Alberta: Phil & Sebastian, Monogram, Rogue Wave, Analog
Ontario: Pilot, Hatch, De Mello, Detour
Quebec: Fantome, 94 Celcius, Kittel
Maritimes: Anchored

Cheap(er) but still okay
Balzac (mass market roaster that still prints actual roast date on the bag)
Brown Bag Coffee Roasters (they roast on the slightly darker side)

Coof

What do you think about my buys?

>new coffee roaster/cafe opened up near work
>buy their cappuccino a couple of times a week
>can no longer tolerate starbucks latte because they taste stale and burnt

Great. So what do I do now?

Can I make mocha in a french pess or will I go to jail?

tea is drunk for centuries and much healthier and shit
your teeth get all brown and shit when you drink coffee disguisting

>>15150490
drink tea

>>15152072
i would never drink tea

Anyone know how long it takes for Hario to ship something?
I ordered a v60 on Sunday but it still hasn't shipped.

>>15152072
Tea stains teeth as well, you dumb cunt. Also
>muh coffee BAD
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31055709/
>Coffee consumption has been associated with decreased mortality in previous studies. As aging, obesity, and lifestyle factors affect the risk of mortality, the association between coffee and mortality needs to be examined in various subpopulations by characteristics of subjects. To quantitatively assess this association, we conducted an updated meta-analysis including stratified analyses by potential modifiers. We searched in the PubMed and Web of Science databases through March 8, 2019, and conducted meta-analysis including linear and non-linear dose-response analyses. We identified 40 studies including 3,852,651 subjects and 450,256 all-cause and cause-specific deaths. Non-linear inverse associations between coffee consumption and mortality from all-causes, cardiovascular disease (CVD), and cancers were found. The lowest relative risk (RR) was at intakes of 3.5 cups/day for all-cause mortality (RR = 0.85, 95% CI 0.82-0.89), 2.5 cups/day for CVD mortality (RR = 0.83, 95% CI 0.80-0.87), and 2 cups/day for cancer mortality (RR = 0.96, 95% CI 0.94-0.99), while additional intakes were not associated with further lower mortality. An inverse association between coffee consumption and all-cause mortality was maintained irrespective of age, overweight status, alcohol drinking, smoking status, and caffeine content of coffee. By region, Europe and Asia showed stronger inverse associations than US. A non-linear inverse association was found for mortality from respiratory disease and diabetes, while linear inverse association was found for mortality from non-CVD, non-cancer causes. Moderate coffee consumption (e.g. 2-4 cups/day) was associated with reduced all-cause and cause-specific mortality, compared to no coffee consumption. The inverse association between coffee and all-cause mortality was consistent by potential modifiers except region.

>>15141867
>female
Yikes

>>15152072
Black tea stains teeth way worse than coffee.

>>15152779
>>15141867
4channel2020

>>15151971
Does that business sell their coffee? If so, just start buying from them

>>15152779
>>15153210
Be nice, I'm just a 5'6" twink.

>>15151971
>>can no longer tolerate starbucks latte because they taste stale and burnt
That's because starbucks beans literally are stale and burnt. They over roast them to make the flavor the same no matter where you go

>>15152072
Have you ever seen a chinese person's teeth?

>try roasting coffee beans for the first time tonight
>kenya gakuyu-ini aa from happymug
>not really sure when first cracks are considered ended or if i'm doing it right
>think i might have cooked them past light and hope i didn't fuggit up
>chew on a couple beans to see what they taste like
>mind goes numb from the amount of flavor

why the FUCK did nobody tell me roasting your own beans was this good

>>15151971
welcome to understanding what real coffee is supposed to taste like. stop going to starbucks; their coffee is terrible

>>15154816
It's dead easy too.

>>15154816
What do you use to roast your beans?

>>15155052
i got a whirleypop for it. i drilled a small hole in the top and stuck a thermometer in it for monitoring the air temeperature. it worked well but i’m going to get one of those gun style IR thermometers to read the temperature of the beans since i didn’t feel like i was getting enough information from the thermometer alone

>>15155052
Personally I took a bread machine and a heat gun. I had to put the temp sensor outside of the case of the unit since it caused an overheat error. It works damn good. I do it all by sound and sight. Haven't had a bad batch yet. I basically wait til the end of the first crack stage and dump it between two colanders to winnow the chaff off. Then I put it on a cookie sheet until it's cooled. Stored for a couple days then ground at each serving.

>>15135191
I bought a used La Pavoni Professionale in the spring as my first machine. It needed some work, which was part of the fun for me. Love experimenting with it.

>>15154816
>why the FUCK did nobody tell me roasting your own beans was this good

I've been shilling diy popcorn popper builds for months.

>>15147733
>>15147734
well in case anyone gives a fuck i went for the timemore c2 over a 1z JX because I'm just starting out

I want to press a button and receive coffee, milk and all. What kind of machine should I buy? A lot of people I know swear by JURA.

>>15155909
a smartphone

>>15155866
Noice. Let us know how it works out.

>>15141150
How slow are we talking here? I have the opposite problem as the guy you’re responding to on both chemex and v60.
I’ve been trying ratios between 1:14 - 1:16, medium grind, water just off the boil. Brew time is a little less than 3 minutes for chemex doing continuous pour like Hoffman’s video says.
The taste just consistency gets waterier but the taste is pretty consistent. I can’t catch the notes that are mentioned in the coffees package.

>>15122874
How's the diarrhea?

>>15155909
As far as bean to cup machines go, jura are among the best, none will be as good as someone competent using a normal espresso machine though

brehs help me. my v60 brew keeps clogging near the end. brehs it takes like 5 minutes to drain for 26g of coffee. i have a good grinder too.

>>15156498
You could finish pouring in about 1 to 1:30. Sounds like you wanna extract more. Maybe grind a little bit finer than medium? There's nothing wrong with 3 minutes though.

>>15156889
Do you swirl too much? You can clog the filter with that. If not, then try to adjust grind size.

>>15122874
I've never had coffee in my entire life. I'm 24. At best, I've had some coffee-flavored snacks. What am I missing out on.

>>15154414
Or British

>>15157136
On sex

hey moka bros ijust bought a moka pot any tips

I like cofffee

>tfw you make an absolutely perfect flawless espresso and then never manage to recapture it ever again when trying to copy the exact same steps

coffee is a cruel mistress

>>15157514
>he didn't use extraction profiler

>>15156539
What diarrhea?

coof

>>15157043
I actually do swirl a lot. I figured that maybe it could extend it. How do I get a good coffee bed without swirling though? And avoiding channels?

What kind of money do I need to fork out for an entry level electric burr grinder? Examples?
I'm not going to be using it for espresso
Thanks

It's not bad for preground.

>>15159322
Baratza Encore if burger, Wilfa Svart if Euro.

>>15152750
Still hasn't shipped.
I bought it from their website so they could get all the money. But I should have just gotten it on Amazon instead.

>>15158925
You can still swirl, just don't overdo it. Also don't pour too aggressively at the end of the brew to avoid agitating the bed unnecessarily.

>He doesn't get McCafe

>>15156930
I opened up my filter after brewing and the majority of my coffee is still slightly larger than kosher salt. Should I go finer?

Does anyone here make turkish coffee? I randomly bought the stuff to make it on Amazon and it has been fun but I don't know if I'm doing it 100% right. I hear opposite things about if I should stir it on the heat. I generally wait for the foam to happen and take it off then if i'm lucky I get more foam before I think it's about to boil and then have to pour it in my mug.

>coffee makers?
>presses?
>I just throw some water in a pan and boil it, pour it into my cup and dump coffee filter full of grounds to steep.

Does Bonavita still make the best drip coffee makers?

Retard here.

Should I get an expensive grinder and Espresso maker.

Grinder
https://www.crateandbarrel.com/baratza-sette-coffee-grinder/s618338?localedetail=US
Espresso maker
https://www.amazon.com/Gaggia-RI9380-46-Espresso-Stainless/dp/B07RQ3NL76/ref=asc_df_B07RQ3NL76/?tag=&linkCode=df0&hvadid=343221176295&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=6465246866584552337&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1028083&hvtargid=pla-756742326692&ref=&adgrpid=68269536879&th=1

Or just try an all in one?
https://www.amazon.com/Breville-Barista-Pro-Automatic-Integrated/dp/B08133HX34/ref=asc_df_B08133HX34/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=385266311735&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=8460192244181424479&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9018712&hvtargid=pla-841298634894&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=81511525194&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=385266311735&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=8460192244181424479&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9018712&hvtargid=pla-841298634894

>>15161418
>essexposting in /ctg/
Definitely separate grinder and machine. The gaggia classic has some quirks you have to learn but I'm fairly happy with mine. Can't speak on the Sette or comparable priced electric grinders though, I'm part of the handgrinder club.

>>15155485
Have plans for your build anon?

>>15161418
Have the BES870XL all in one unit which is basically the same one as you posted just with no digital display. Fucking love the thing, gets used 2-4 times daily.

>>15157136
I'm 25 and just started drinking coffee this March. It's pretty great, tasty if you make it right. I mostly use it as a ritual to take a break when working. Gives my mind something to focus on that isn't my profession and I get a treat at the end, maybe allows my subconscious to chug away at a problem while I'm focused on something else. For me it's kind of like brewing a pot of tea but with more focus and different flavors at the end

>>15156539
I exclusively use coffee for my morning enema, cleans me right out. Before bed I prefer a chamomile tea enema

>>15161418
>Sette 30

It doesn't have fine enough adjustment increments for dialing in espresso.

>>15161418
imo if you're using a Gaggia classic. Just get a Baratza Encore.

Is this the biggest coffee industry disappointment of 2020?

>>15161467
Run it hard until it burns out, decide if I want to do a full custom heater, or just spend another
$20 on a popper. Probably another popper since I'm a lazy piece of shit.

>>15161443
>>15161487
>>15161557
>>15161579
Thank you all for the responses.
Leaning between getting Gaggia Classic + Baratza or skimping easy on the BES870XL. Part of me wants to go overboard and get the grinds down. However, in all honesty, I think I'm going for the convenience factor.

Thanks again lads.

>>15159793
You can keep going finer as long as the coffee still tastes good.

>>15157294
I recommend using freshly boiled water for the moka pot before putting it on top of the stove. They say it tastes better this way, others say it doesn't matter if you start from room temp water, but for me, I'm just impatient. I manually grind the beans while the water is heating on a kettle. By the time the grinds are done, the water is most likely near boiling. I'll then be able to brew quicker on the stove top.
Don't fall for the seasoning meme. Disassemble (including the gaskets) and wash your moka pot every after use. The coffee oils will get burnt and will turn rancid, which will make your succeeding brews worse. Also when you store the moka pot, make sure it's slightly loosened so that your gasket doesn't get deformed.
Lastly, if you have a french press or a frother of some sort, have fun making milk drinks with it.

>>15161770
no the knob is big, that means it has to be good.

Does anyone have a good "algorithm" they use for pour over? looking to change up my process a bit.

>>15161786
Any chance you have the code, etc uploaded online? Looks like it would be a fun and tasty project.

>>15127946
reminder that flat beds are meaningless if you swirled to make it happen.

>>15164376
Yeah, I stole it from someone else. I may be using a fastpwm variant, but you should be able to find a ton of different versions with a little googlefu.

https://github.com/greencardigan/TC4-shield/blob/master/applications/Artisan/aArtisan_PID/trunk/src/aArtisanQ_PID/aArtisanQ_PID.ino

https://www.tindie.com/products/artisanaltech/tc4-coffee-roaster-shield-tc4-plus/

>>15164391
Agitated with the kruve brew stick. Suck six dicks. Don't necro (you) me from a week ago.

Why is happy mugs Christmas blend so kino bros?

>>15122874
I drink hot coca and tea.
I quit coffee after my best buddy died.

>>15122874
this thread has been up for awfully long even for /ck/

>>15165520
sorry your little homie died, but rodents have shorter lives than people, so you will go through several little homies. are you really going to give up a food item each time

Where did the coffee wakes you up or gives you energy meme come from? I feel the same after drinking it despite people saying it's le jetfuel strong.

>>15166473
People react differently to caffeine. I drink about 3-6 cups.a day and have no issues with sleep or anything. Properly addicted.

>>15166473
It takes about 16-20oz for me to feel it. If I do 8 or so nothing really happens.

>>15166696
>16-20oz for me to feel it
at what rate?
I am at like maybe 1/8 grounds to 10 ounces of water or something.

>>15166473
3 double shots seems to be the point where I feel "jittery", nothing noticeable before that.

>>15166473
>be me at the beginning of october
>takes the no-caffeine-pill
>constantly wake up tired
>somehow my sleep schedule gets worse
>literally can't sleep
>be me end of november
>start drinking coffee again
>suddenly can sleep normally and wake up like a normal person
What >>15166675 is correct. If I don't drink coffee I can't sleep properly.

Vietnamese Coffee with pho. Yum!

>>15123260
>cookie dough
How does that work?

>>15168081
Fugg, I want pho.

>>15122874
I got a sample pack from treeline and started with this, it's nice. Great for this time of year with the fruit and nut.

Paid £20 for 340g of beans
A bit rich for my blood, but might as well see what the good stuff tastes like after my local roaster gave me a 1kg bag with the roast date being 2 weeks before.

>>15168238
>£20 for 340
woof

>>15168238
Im hesitating to get an ethiopian natural at 14€/250g as an end of the year treat. Why is specialty coffee so fucking expensive?

Finally bit the bullet and bought a Kinu M47 Simplicity. Holy shit, it's a hell of an upgrade from my Hario Coffee Mill Dome; beans that choke on the latter feel like they glide on the former. It can also probably double as a blunt weapon. I love it.

>>15166183
good

>>15168630
Nice buy. Its your job to stop the next moron from wasting his time/money on a hario.

just picked this stuff up. Pretty excited to make some.

>>15122874
>>What are ya drinking
Since nice Malabar coffee
>>Where's it from
India
>>How'd you brew it
Cowboy style. I forgot my moka pot in my dorm room when I escaped chink flu initial wave

>>15122874

>feeling tired
>figured one more cup of coffee couldn't hurt
>drink it
>head ache

Every time. Every goddamn time.

>>15122874
I'm drinking your mom's sweet puss juice, brewed fresh from the house.

>>15169779
just tried the Pallet. ITs so good brehs. If it was hot as shit in my thermos i would chug that shit and make more. Joocy as FUARK

>>15165286
Sorry that I hurt your feelings bro. The flat bed indicates (you hope) that your brew was even. But if you artificially make it flat after 2/3rds of the brew time has passed, you are just covering up potential flaws in your method.

But you're also the guy who has shit roasting curves, uses way coffee way too fresh to make espresso with, and complains about the cost of a 30 dollar aeropress despite spending nearly 10 times that on A FUCKING SCALE loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

Where should I go after French press? I have a chemex but am looking for nice drip machines.

>>15125917
based and huepilled

>>15166473

Two cups of >>15125917 puts me where I need to be. Sometimes I'll switch it up and get a cold brew with one shot of espresso (no cream, no sugar). Nice and earthy

>>15170469
Holy fuck nigga that shit's basically still raw

>>15170769
Why do you need to "go somewhere" nothing wrong with French press or chemex

>>15170653
Only thing I'm not complaining about is how my brews taste. Funny. You might get away with making stale aeropresso, but some people have standards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhsLtIIxNTo&feature=emb_title

>complains about the cost of a 30 dollar aeropress

Its not the cost I have an issue with, its the VALUE that purchase gives you. You're (potentially) an adult. Don't gimp your life by sticking by your poor choices.

>spending nearly 10 times that on A FUCKING SCALE loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

You've put more thought into the purchase so far than I did. Didn't make a dent in the bankroll. Maybe santa will bring you one? Easily small enough to fit into a stocking.

>>15170769
like the other anon said, no reason to do anything else unless you want to make stuff besides coffee.

>>15170893
why are you worried about the value of an aeropress if it doesn't matter for the scale?

is it good for you?

>>15171211
The scale brings far more value than I paid.
Something something
>The whole is greater than the sum of the parts.

Scale+SEP+flair is the cheapest avenue to a shitload of control over my variables+datalogging. When you're not a poor, you can buy dumb shit like that on a whim. I'll be shilling the urushi yasukiyo next.

>>15169779
>>15170469
I wanted to get that Pallet box, but I'm too poor.

>>15168081
Coffee with grilled eel is surprisingly delicious.

>>15155349
Nice, got mine new many years ago. Works best with home-roasted coffee.

>>15168630
Is this manual grinder really $345? Why pay that much to do all the work yourself when you can get a breville or baratza grinder for cheaper than that?

>>15173102
Just get a c40 and adjust the weight by a few .1 grams if youre under or over by a bit.

Monogram Banko Gotiti
Tastes like peach heaven

>>15155349
Im tryna find a used or broken La Pavoni in Australia but holy shit theyre expensive. Most used ones here are always 1000-1300 dollars, only one or two hundreds less than new. I dont understand why prices for La Pavonis are so high here?

>>15173102
The Simplicity is $269. Because it's portable, built like a tank, and disassembly and maintenance is a breeze. Also, I usually just grind for 30g and rarely exceed 40g if at all.
I don't disagree that an automatic grinder is nice, but the advantages of the Kinu outweigh the convenience of the automatic for my purposes. Also, it's not as if those 30g are hard to grind with it either.

Coof

>>15173411
>Kinu
>portable

Any opinions on the Decent?
Does it live up to its marketing of trying to rival commercial grade machines?
Any disadvantages other than price tag? Haven't done the research but I think there was one person in these threads that owned one

Have you ever been tricked by coffee temperature?

just got some new beans to roast

>>15175103

>>15175192

An ex barista friend bought pic rel gesha meme beans for 15€/150g. Pretty good honestly, roasted scandinavian light, nice acidity/fruityness/floral notes. Wouldn't pay for it though.

I once did a cold water extraction on codeine (otc opioid), fav brand was out of stock so I bought the one with 1200mg of caffeine in the whole pack, and ingested that with ~280mg of codeine.
as I was already drinking 8 cups of extra strong coffee a day it didnt do shit to me

>drink instant coffee
>starting getting jittery, increased sweat, head feels heavy and hot
>few hours later feel like passing out

What the fuck do they put in this? Doesn't happen with sugary iced coffee. I think I'm done with instant bros. I can't drink most tea either, makes me feel awful and nauseous.

>>15176020
Instant is often made from robusta coffee. It has a higher caffeine content.

>>15176020
You put too much in. Caffeine overdoses suck

>>15122874
This might sound like a loaded question, but I was wondering if any of you had a quick rundown on regions of coffee beans from around the world. Maybe a good detailed infograph?

I don't get how Scandanavian, Arabica, african, Latin American whatever beans are chosen
Also what the fuck is up with these roasting cage prices?

taking my >>15158248 without cream or sugar for a week and i want to tell everybody

Should I get the new E&B burr set for my timemore slim? Ive had it for a year and been grinding at 12-13 clicks for my flair once a day. The burrs feel like they arent as sharp as they once were, they tend to "catch" on beans when they never did that until about 2 months ago. Are they dulling or is that normal?

>>15176413
How much does a new burr set cost?

>>15176413
A slight bit of googling tells me this

>Update :
I remembered seeing Socratic did a particle distribution on Comandante, EK43, and Kinu and posted the result on their Instagram. Referencing on those, the Timemore new burrs don't really perform as well. The Kinu and Comandante have the highest peak at 20%+ while the Timemore peaks at 15%. So this means that the shape of the graph for the Kinu and Comandante has steeper slope while the Timemore is a lot less steep and more spread out, making the grinds are more uneven.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UT8BfogMG0h-4pALSaQyyf5xHG-Kl6Tf/view

Are they a meme? I've never used one

Finishing up the pot. 1 cup folders dark, 2 shots whiskey, 2 shots Irish cream

>>15177053
Makes a very rich tasting coffee, pretty good but I don't like cleaning up after.

i am going to get a niche this time

>>15177060
yes, if you can keep it clean

>>15176844
$45 on Prima. Not bad at all imo
>>15176895
I appreciate the info a lot anon. The burrs seem to be an upgrade to my old 2019 burr set but still not as good as something with narrower steppes or steppless. Ill probably buy myself a kinu within a few months but as of right now the beans catching are making me lose my shit and i want an instant solution

>that smell after roasting bali blue moon beans to a solid medium

>>15177053
moka pots make very good coffee if you use the right type of roast/grind. try making a pot with cafe bustelo (or other similar espresso roast) and add a scoop of ice cream into it once it's in your mug. tastes fucking fantastic. note that grind should be coarser than a true espresso grind but finer than a drip brew grind

>>15177766
What? I'm grinding my own beans for one thing, and when I drink coffee I want coffee, not ice cream

>>15177314
Fuck it, Im thinking of getting a 1zpresso pro. I like my timemore but im tired os spending about 3-5 minutes grinding at an espresso setting and the big gaps in steppes are starting to annoy me. Also kinus and apollos are never in stock

>>15177783
Mokapots are great at overextracting the fuck out of stale preground. Basically their only value. If you're grinding fresh, avoid.

>>15177766
>add a scoop of ice cream
I like affogato but to add ice-cream to coffee everytime? Nope.

>>15176255

>>15178808
Those generalizations are all fucking over the place.

Anyone have experience with putting a PID on a newer model Gaggia Classic? Curious if it's worth the money as opposed to just saving the cash for a very eventual upgrade to a nicer single boiler PID machine like the BZ13.

Looking to get a coffee machine for some one as a present, budget is around 300. I want it to use whole beans and not pods but I also want it to be simple to use (maybe as simple as a one button push)

What would you lads recommend?

>>15122874
Instant vanilla caramel latte, Maxwell House.
Use hot water from the dispenser to melt it, then fill the rest of the mug with milk.

What coffee beans should I get my mom for Christmas? She usually just uses Starbucks for her french press but I'd like to treat her with somehing more expensive and higher quality.

Do you people sieve out the chaff before taking pictures of your meme coffee beds?
Because mine usually look like someone’s clipped their toenails over the grounds

>>15179253
Buy her starbucks, from the local location, just stop and get them ground from the whole beans. for french press grind (4? I forget) right at the register. When you give someone a gift, get what they like, not one up them. Try the Siren's Blend or whatever time of year is the special one or single estate, right now. https://www.starbucks.com/menu/at-home-coffee/whole-bean

I miss the Mocha Valencia that starbucks used to make, so sometimes I will buy Orange coffee online from San Marco and add ghiradelli chocolate syrup. I don't live near a Fresh Market anymore (but they also have a fresh orange), but amazon has everything. Highland Grog coffee is a fun Christmas mood blend, I sometimes buy from various brands. I'm also buying Pecan coffee this time of year.

If you bake, pair a hispanic coffee or some other region's coffee type with pastries that match. Beinets with chicory blend. Bustelo espresso and milk with pasteles. Croissants with french roast.

>>15142168
Hello, spider. I am also spider.

>>15179253
get your mom the highest quality she'd appreciate. most people who drink starbucks regularly will appreciate anything that doesn't taste like dried out burned dogshit. even a medium roast lavazza, or whatever generic house blend from your nearest local cafe. don't waste quality beans on someone who can't tell the difference.

>>15178007
You can make good coffee out of moka pots, it's just unreliable as fuck since you can't control many variables. I've had specialty medium roasts come out great with the proper grind/technique. Not very repeatable though.

>>15179253
Get her a light roast, ground by the roaster at pourover coarseness. See if she can appreciate the difference.

test

>>15179866
You can make good coffee by stirring grounds into hot water.

>>15178996
Moccamaster. You may have trouble brewing whole beans though. Might look into grinding them first.

alright bros can i grind my coffee beans with this
or do i have to get a grinder

>>15123260
every time i open this thread this image does things to me

>>15180288
u need a grinder

>Brought some Jamaican blue roasted just last week
How best to dial it in?
I use a breville oracle

>>15180288
you need a grinder, a conical burr grinder is best.

>>15179866
>You can make good coffee out of moka pots, it's just unreliable as fuck since you can't control many variables.
You're just a shitter anon.