/ck/ - Food & Cooking

do you want somewhat elabroate and substantial vegetable dishes, or just to learn how to cook various vegetables well? The latter is more techniques and shopping practices than recipes.

>>15103611
> I might as well go check recipes from great depression or wwii, at least those have ingredients I can recognize by name.
You should. There's simply no reason to read "vegetarian" recepts. It's all new age fake stuff written by liberal elites who sniff their own farts. Just buy an old cookbook or get one from your mom.

and it's quite naive to assume that all sage advice can be accessed by a rudimentary google search

I made some tofu stir fry the other day. It was on the lighter side but it came out great. Also, of you don't already have sesame oil and soy sauce in your fridge you should still get it as it can be used in a lot of other dishes.

budgetbytes com/wprm_print/recipe/52338

Go to your local store. Buy vegetables you like. Put them all in a pan. Put oil in. Fry them. Eat them. Wa la

>>15103623
>learn how to make interesting vegetable dishes from a generation which habitually boiled vegetables to mush, viewed them entirely as 'sides' to meat, and was scared of other cultures

really nigga?

also
>being a smug liberal douchebag
>being a bad cook
not related, at all. Don't play identity politics with your food anon

>>15103623
That's how it feels. Those recipes that calls some specific type of onion and potato in addition to multiple varieties of mushrooms from world over and some sort of bean I've never seem in my life can go fuck themselves.
I once saw a video of this kind looking grandma that taught how to make a "poorman's meal' or something like that from depression era and it was perfect: Simple ingredients, quick, easy and delicious.

>>15103629
Everything you’ve ever learned in life can be googled. Sorry. That’s what separates entry level labor from skilled professionals. I don’t post the answers to my problems online so other people can figure it out. I make people pay me for them.

>>15103643
the point of recipes is to teach you techniques and to give you ideas of flavour combinations

if you can cook you largely don't actually follow them, you just read a few to get some ideas, and then wing it and improve based on tasting and thinking about your cooking. If you can't cook, a recipe won't help you anyway.

Desserts and baking are the exceptions.
So really your bullshit recipe examples might be just as helpful as 'simple, easy, quick, delicious' 19th century grandma tier which if you werent a retard you could likely do anyway.

>>15103645
this post makes no sense

>>15103641
>he thinks veggies aren't sides to meat
lmao at being so poor and self hating that veggies are your 'main' ingredient
but other than that the older generations were simply much better at simply preparing dishes than the new age crowd is. All thr buzz feed recipes require half a dozen unknown ingredients because it's just soooo awesome and cool to use.
>>being a smug liberal douchebag
>>being a bad cook
They're the same thing when it concerns vegetarians and their new age cooking sites.
>>15103643
Honestly the poor eras are better for cooking quality because everyone had to make do with low quality cheap ingredients and make them taste good. When WW2 ended, a craze in America began with jellying food. Kind of shows that good times create bad cooks.

>>15103658
>if you can cook you wouldn't need recipes
>if you can't cook recipe won't help you anyways
get a load of this retard

>>15103756
a recipe won't teach you how to salt correctly, how not to overcook anything, how to buy inseason and fresh ingredients and store and use them correctly or how to balance to taste.

thats 90% of cooking.
A recipe can teach you techniques and flavour combinations.

>>15103751
>aspic is your reason why old timers were better cooks

>>15103611
Get pot.
Get vegetables.
Chop vegetables.
Fry some of them in the pot (not cook completely).
Add salt, water, bring to simmer to simmer, then add the rest of the vegetables in inverse order to how much they need cooking. Potatoes go in first, carrots in middle, greens last (just before you finish boiling).

Works with anything you have.

>>15103775
Fuck. Wrong reaction pic.

>>15103775
are you going to include a recommendation for fresh garlic/ginger/chilli, aromatics or spices or coconut cream/stock or really anythingn that would make this good anon

>>15103775
Just came back from grocery with potato, carrot, eggplant, pumpkin and chickpea. Apparently chickpeas needs to be soaked for hours so I'll leave it for tomorrow.
How do I use those cut pumpkins? My guess is after potatos but before the carrots.

buy chinese greens, bok choi, choi sum, gai larn etc
whatever is freshest.

slice in half
wash thoroughly (dirt hides in them)
microwave miso paste & butter together and whisk
massage all over greens
grill them until slightly tender and blackened on the leaf tips
eat with rice

there's your interesting technique + basic flavour combo for that subset of vegetables.
A recipe would be more complicated based on wanting to differentiate itself. And whether it's good or not depends entirely on things outside the control of a recipe like selecting the best greens and how you grill them and balancing the miso butter.

>>15103789
https://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2014/02/the-best-baba-ganoush-recipe.html

highly recommend this for your eggplant.
the only even marginally obscure ingredient is tahini.
I like to add diced tomato, onion and minced parsley to it.

>>15103789
honestly, unless you're making hummus, which imo is not even worth making at home either, fuck dried chickpeas. Buy canned chickpeas. It's just so much easier. You don't lose much.

>>15103789
>carrot
slice longwise relatively thin on a diagonal bias
toss with some salt
let sit in a collander for 15 mins
dry off in a towel
toss in a bowl with oil and pepper
roast in a tray on highest heat. Don't crowd the pan, let each carrot piece touch lay flat.
when it begins to burn on some edges, (remove here, done, if you just want nice carrots) drizzle honey over them all, toss, and spread back out, and roast again until the honey caramlyses and it further blackens
remove
wash your pan before it sets

blend tahini with water until mayo consistency
beat in olive oil, as much as you like

toss carrots in tahini sauce,( toasted nuts, and herbs if you want)

really punchy dish to bring big flavour to a meal

>>15103789
Never used pumpking, not native to where I'm at. Also love me some eggplant salad (you can look it up) . We have squash tough. If it's anything like squash, it's not going to need much cooking. The rule of thumb is: the closer a thing is to being edible raw, the less cooking it needs. That's why beans need a ton of cooking, potatoes a lot but not as much as beans, carrots just enough to make them soft.

>>15103781
Of course you can add those. I was just giving rough outline.

One of my favorite recipes is to boil diced squash, have the squash + liquid blended, then add salt + pepper + sour cream, and bring it to boil again (just long enough to homogenize the sour cream with rest of it). Squash cream soup.

>>15103611
Vegetarian meals are always unsatisfying anon. We're fuckin persistence hunters.

>>15103811
It wasn't an extensive search by any means so I might have missed it, but I couldn't find it. It's a small local store after all.
>>15103828
Like, just placing the tray on the fire? I have wok, can't I make it do? That would be easier.
Anyway, I don't have tahini nor honey at the moment, so I'm going to just write it down for later.
>>15103847
Thanks for the tip and I'll check the salad.
>>15103849
Several cultures around the globe dealt well with little meat.
And I'm not planning to become vegetarian, I just want to eat more vegetable sides and enjoy a soup/stew.

>>15103863
roast means in an oven
you don't have an oven?

>>15103879
Yes, I have an oven. I'm just dumb and missed the "roast" part and assumed your fried it.

>>15103764
nigga no it's not. i need a recipe because i have no idea if raw califlowee will kill me and for how long i need to cook it so it doesn't kill me. that's the whole reason for recipes. so you make something fundamentally edible. I genuinely don't know how to cook veggies.
>>15103771
You know that's not what i meant and buzzfeed recipes will never make you a good cook.

>>15103623
>Mom, depression, sage advice not on google.

I agree. I am actually reading this cookbook from a West Virginia ladies church group and I think this stuff is amazing

Helpful hints for veggies

>>15103890
Raw cauliflower is good in salads. Won't kill ya. The same goes for raw broccoli. They're good cooked too, but no need to overcook them.As the rule of thumb from >>15103847 says. You'll learn from experience. No one is born a good cook .

I don't know who Sue Ann is but her recipes seem so interesting

This morning I ate a grape tomatoes and mushrooms fry up with some sliced cheese and blackberries. Pretty simple. You can go as hard or easy as you want.

Online recipes on lifestyle websites suck. There's better info on YouTube in my opinion. Look for an amateur looking video with good comments.

>start adding lots of vegetables to my diet out of a desire to "be healthy"
>now my shits smell horrible and I can't stop farting
>and this is normal
Fuck this I'm going back to primarily meat. I have it a try and it's been a terrible couple months. I'm farting all the time and I'm taking large shits way too often. Vegetable based diets are a fucking scam.

>>15103931
>>15103939
>>15103949
this is midwestern garbage tier

fucking canned vegetable casseroles and false middle aged woman 'lifehack' nonsense lmao

you can unironically do better with 'leftist hipster new age internet bullshit' and a LOT better if you discard the false dichotomy entirely.

buy an Ottolenghi cookbook

>>15103967
it's your gut bacteria
you've bred creatures that like the food you've been eating for years and years and they aren't just going to fuck off and immaculately be replaced by other creatures that like your new diet in a couple months.

If you'd done it vice versa you'd be experiencing very similar things. So it's nonsense to say one thing is good or bad because it doesn't sit right with your digestive system.

fermented food can help.

>>15103967
Depends on what kinds of vegetables and how you're cooking them. Some will make you fart, some won't .

I got a hold of some jerusalem artichoke a while ago, it was like a potato but way tastier. Anyway, I avoid those (not because I don't like the taste), but because they make me fart much. I still eat lots of vegetables tough. Maybe you're just eating the wrong kinds.

>>15103811
Agreed, dry chickpeas are a bitch

>>15103967
You know that it takes time for your gut bacteria ratios to shift in response to a change in diet? I personally don't have this problem after shifting to very little red meat and lots of fresh vegetables and fish and other lean protein so I wonder what you are eating.
If your "eating primarily meat" is like salted pork n beef and lunch meat and shit, you gonna have heart problems, lol.
There are no high life expectancy diets that are composed of "primarily meat".
Just lookin' out for ya, bud. Gotta eat a lot of plants if you wanna live longer.

>>15103981
very wise and good advice, and a good mental paradigm to hold in ones mind

>>15103971
>Canned food is garbage so recipes suck.

Well glad you are so wealthy to ship in fresh produce in winter. Or is it not November where you are?

Anyway. Use frozen or substitute fresh.

I think I am for sure going to make Sure Ann's spinach souffle

>>15103643
>recipe includes green onions, yukon gold taters, and shiitake mushroom
>Bro what the fuck onions aren't green and what the hell why would I put SHIT MUSHROOMS in my food
>this is a globohomo conspiracy I just want normal food
You are fucking retarded hahaha

>>15104120
no it's not winter where i am. and i eat mostly seasonal fresh winter vegetables when it is winter like carrots and brussel sprouts and stuff.

canned beans suck ass.
some canned veges are legitimate like canned tomatoes or canned chickpeas.
same with some frozen veges like frozen peas are good.

What the fuck do you think you know anyway? You already admitted you can't cook.
Sue Ann's 'souffle' doesn't even have eggs in it. It sounds disgusting. It's Peggy Hill tier.

>>15104120
below it is a recipe for sweet potatos and marshmellows lmao
i know this is your national cuisine and i don't mean to insult you but it's honestly like milksteak tier

Probably one of the easiest things to do is just bake vegetables. There are a lot of good vegetables that can be baked, and a lot just taste better baked.

Meat is the easy mode of ingredients. It is really, really hard to fuck up meat to the point where it is not at least "OK". This is why flyover trump supporters mostly only consume meat (and fried wheat & corn-based products, but that is because of their addiction to grease, sugar and salt). They lack the intellectual capacity to learn how to cook non-meat related dishes. By the way I am not vegan or even vegetarian, I just know how to cook.

>>15103971
shut up you faggot
imagine some neckbeard who's never cooked for a family of four in his entire life act this arrogantly against sweet Christian House wives. Goddamn kill yourself you bitter peace of shit.
>>15103949
I want to give Sue Ann my creamy corn. Seriously though the spinach soufflé sounds delicious.
>>15103945
I thought you couldn't eat califlower raw. I seriously thought you'd get food poisoning. I might try it out someday.

>>15104020
Only steak and chicken thighs and I'm sure you'll live to 70. Eat processed meat once and BAM throat cancer. Many such cases. Sad!

>>15104225
>ironic unironic born again christian defending "sweet christian housewives"
>also thinks that eating cauliflower raw give him food poisoning
yep checks out

>>15104238
It shouldn't but after the mutts won WW2 and gave everything to the 'bankers with the funny nose', I didn't stand a chance in this hellhole. I've never been taught to cook.
Also my bitter atheist friend, show me some of your amazing recipes, since you're so much better than these nasty Christianses, right? Atleast they had the balls to put their shit into a book instead of shitposting about them on a Tuvaluan goat herding forum. I will try their spinach soufflé and very probably like it. You've however not done squat to help me l2cook except bitch about things you don't like.

>>15103981
I got over the initial "shock" and I'm not complaining about that. I'm just comparing now to before my diet change. I just need to eat so much more mass to get the same amount of calories, so now I do a big poop at least once a day as opposed to 3-4 times a week.
It's just not fun, I would rather eat less food and get the same amount out of it. It doesn't mean I'm not going to eat vegetables anymore, I'm just going back to eating them occasionally as a side or snack instead of massive plates.
IMO it's more about biomass than gut bacteria.

>>15104020
I'm going to be a total cripple by the time I'm 60 so I'm not planning on living any longer than that. No point in being alive once my joints calcify and I am bedridden.

>>15104269
>Mutts won WWII
What kind of history books have you been reading?

>>15103611
Give me a few examples of "multiple expensive/time consuming/rare ingredients". You can almost certainly find cheaper substitutes or omit a few things.

potato and leek soup is bretty good.

>>15103775
>Here is a statistical analysis proving Donald Trump lost Chicago, one of the bluest cities in the country
Why would anyone create that image? A combination of TDS and sore winner-ism?

>>15104508
Oh nevermind. I misunderstood the image because I didn't understand Benford's Law/the curve.

>>15104225
>I thought you couldn't eat califlower raw. I seriously thought you'd get food poisoning
Just remember to wash it well. Then again, same goes for everything raw.

Actually, my favorite way to eat cauliflower is pickled. I can't find that at stores, so usually from my relatives I get a jar of those. Never made them myself. Pickled is also my favorite way to eat watermelon.

>>15103611
you get what you're looking for. Most dishes I made recently are trivial to make vegetarian (chicken stock -> veggie stock) or already are.

>>15104355
I have psoriatic arthritis. I'm 27 years old. Funny, today is a pretty bad joint day for me due to the rain in the midwest.

Stop being a child. You are choosing to be unhealthy. Stop blaming it on the disease you have.

I suppose if that happens at 60 you can decide if you want to keep going or not.

None of that has happened yet. You don't know what you will look like when you are 60. Don't ever deflect your self-destructive choices on your disorder again.

>>15104524
Also, the best pickles are made with brine. The sourness should comes from slow lactic-fermentation, not from vinegar. If you haven't had brine-pickles, you haven't had pickles.

>>15104524
Look for giardiniera--also sometimes called hot mix--near the pickles and olives (maybe vinegar, too). It'll often be mixed with carrots, pearl onions, peppers, and celery but there's usually tons of cauliflower in there.

All things considered, it's pretty easy to make too. Literally put raw cauliflower in a jar, boil up any generic brine mixture, and pour it over. If you're doing a big batch and saving some, then you'll actually want to go through the canning process, but if it's something you'll consume within a week or two you can just keep it in the fridge.

>>15103611
Julia has real recipes for vegetables.
Most are simple, but time honored as good.

https://youtu.be/qUsS-z6LxI8

>>15103611
You're good to go the moment you have good broth. The rest is pretty straightforward.
A few examples:
Penne with Saffron (broth, onions, butter, penne, parmesan, some saffron)
Short pasta with salsa real (white bread, milk, flour, broth, white wine, butter, carrot, onion, parsely)
Any cream soup (squash would be seasonal)
risotto of any kind
rice with sauce and veggies (or curry)
or if no broth is available, milk is already extremely versatile
gratins, soups, pastry, cream sauces, mashed potatoes, literally X with bechamel is fine.

>>15104524
I blanche my cauliflower before pickling

>>15104429
Falwell's Liberty University textbooks, ofc! We was xtians, 'n stuff lahk 'dat, 'k?

Potatoes are already a story on their own.
Fried, boiled or baked, as salads, as a base for dough, or just on their own with onions, garlic and egg.

>>15103641
That pic is from me country :^)

>>15104355
You should be shitting every day regardless, holy fuck I can't believe you'd rather just be constipated half the time you psycho. If you're eating so much god damned meat that you can't shit you're looking at colon cancer and prostate problems

Jesus H on a pogo stick, how hard is it or how retarded are you? It's as easy as throwing broccoli on a plate, microwaving few minutes, toss parmesan on top. Or get a 3 quart pot, dump in a thing of chicken stock, a few bits of chicken, chopped onion, broccoli, corn, tomato, beans, simmer an hour or two with 11 herbs and spices. Whatever fresh or canned vegetables. There are no stew rules. Or sloppitus in a pot rules. Throw whatever in, cook low and slow and add ounce or two of water as needed.
I'm a fan of hot chili powder, MSG, garlic powder, and whatever else is laying around.

OP try out different salads (making your own dressings is pretty easy), baked vegetable dishes (potatoes are best for this), or pickling (I pickle red onions and carrots often then use the solution as the base for a vinaigrette).

My go-to is a quick-pickling method I started doing a few months ago.
>1 cup water
>1/2 cup white vinegar
>1/2 cup apple cider vinegar
>3 tbsp maple syrup or honey
>3 tsp sea salt

This is good for a 32oz container. Tightly pack chopped vegetables of choice (if you want to add fresh herbs so ahead and do so at this point). When the solution begins to simmer and everything is dissolved pour into the container and let sit for 30 minutes. You can eat it right away but it's better cold imo.

>>15103643
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-GVl7scrYE
Is this the one you're talking about? It has meat so not fully relevant to the thread, though Depression-Era foods are some of the simplest means of vegetarian meals.

>>15103643
>>15103751
Why are you so proud of refusing to learn new things? If you did take the time to learn new things, you would be aware that America's post-war food culture was absolute garbage and that pre-war vegetable recipes require excellent ingredients in order to not be bland as fuck.

>>15103849
Vegetarian meals have been what most of the world's population has subsisted on for nearly every meal since the agricultural revolution you absolute mong.

Depression Era cooking is trash. Gelatins and charred steak. Just because someone uses a fancy potato in their recipe doesn't give you the excuse to be brain dead and not just use common sense.

>>15104704
Why do you have to be so mean

>>15103939
This is fucking horrible, nearly every ingredient is from a fucking can and the dishes are loaded with unnecessary sugar. This image is a perfect representation of the horrors of American cuisine.

>>15104355
fucking based. imagine eating beggies so you can live up to 80 just for the sake of experiencing old age lmao

>>15103611
What >>15104942 said. You rely on search algorithms designed for satisfying soys. If you had a proper cookbook (and I don't mean post-war mutt cooking) you would find that a large amount of recipes always has been vegetarian, but did not go out of its way to be labelled as such.

>>15104546
This. What % do you use? I did 3% a while back and they were far too soggy. No crunch at all.

>>15104955
Honey, it's what we do on 4chan. We don't really MEAN the insults. It is for fun. And whether or not you are, you will often be called any or all of tranny, fag, nigger, incel, aspergarian type, retard, plus MANY more! It is how we express our anger with the way the world is. Most of these are from young boys living in parent's basement full of testosterone but I am an old guy in my 50s making six figures. All kinds here, you tranny nigger fucker.

>>15104727
Based Gramma

What kind of noodles work best for veggie soups
I want to make a big pot of soup but I don't want the fucking pasta noodles I have to soak up half that shit by the time I eat some tomorrow

>>15103643
Whoever wrote that is either a chef and doesn't know any better, or where they live those vegetables are available at the local supermarket.
Here potatoes aren't labelled with their variety, so use whatever. Use whatever onion you already have, it's important not to be using perishable one off ingredients. Use white button mushrooms for everything.

>>15103611
Just follow normal recipes and don't include the meat. Stir fry meats can be replaced with tofu. Stew meats can be replaced with potatoes/carrots. Soups don't really need meat at all. Make bean dips. Make pasta.

It's not even remotely hard to cook without meat, just sounds like you want an excuse not to try.

>>15105443
>We don't really MEAN the insults

I do.

>>15104727
Her grand daughter is so fucking hot too. Cutie pie new wave Italian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhBZrPk2xaY

>>15103611
Make any kind of meat containing soup, and then just don't add meat. Wa fuckin la

>>15105712
8:40 makes me wanna propose. Great family values, polite, beautiful. Perfect.

>>15105700
>just sounds like you want an excuse not to try.
OP sounds like a proudly ignorant little bitch who refuses to attempt anything with the faintest learning curve and then gets upset and blames factors beyond his control when his inability to put effort into anything and lack of curiosity keeps him trapped in his bland, bleak, empty, miserable state of existence.
>waaaaaah the recipe asked for THREE different kinds of mushrooms! how can i possibly be expected to handle that sort of complexity???
>what's a russet potato? what's a yellow onion? fuck it, i give up :'''(
>learning basic cooking skills is hipster shit, look at this based wholesome xD church cookbook i got, all you have to do is dump canned shit into a casserole dish!
OP is the embodiment of mediocrity. He may as well just give up now, heat up some Tyson tendies, and blame his abject failure to become a successful, well-rounded human being on the jews.

>>15105149
3% sounds about right.
https://www.culturesforhealth.com/learn/blog/blog-post-one-ingredient-youll-need-crunchy-lacto-fermented-pickles/
Add horseraddish.

>>15106078
*horseraddis leaves. Or grape leaves.