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Is Kobe beef really the best beef out there or is it just a meme?

>> No.15099568
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>>15099534

>> No.15099571

>>15099534
It's really the best but not at $50/lb.

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>>15099534
It's pretty great, but also a meme. Japanese meat autism leads to a lot of upselling and overpriced shit. Like, Kumamoto horse is pretty fucking fantastic, but they get most of their horse meat from Canada.

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>>15099577
Yep. People hear that the Japanese pay tens of thousands of yen for first-of-the-season micromanaged perfect fruit and laugh. Then they hear the same thing about beef and take it deadly seriously.
There are diminishing returns and limits to everything. It's good, but not commensurately good with what it costs.

>> No.15099699

>>15099577
Horse meat? Christ, they really will eat anything

>> No.15099820

>>15099647
>diminishing returns
Diminishing utility. Returns refers to labor. I apologize for my autism with regards to economic terms.

>> No.15099845

>>15099699
Only the US and a few weird east African countries have bans on eating horsemeat. It's actually pretty fucking great.

>> No.15099907

>>15099534
both

>> No.15099914

>>15099699
Horse meat is fine 2qhwyf

>> No.15100403

>>15099534
Lived in Kobe for 10 years here.
Nah it's far from the best beef even in Japan.
It's just marketed really well as a luxury item.
If you want the good shit you need to travel to places like ishigaki or matsuzaka and have their beef.

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Like all things Japanese, vastly overrated while at the same time utter garbage

>katana are flimsy pig iron peasant cutters
>samurai are mentally ill masochists
>sushi is stinky rice with fish scraps
>candy is either disgusting colored sugar or bland rice trash
>kobe beef is disgusting lard with traces of meat
>etc, etc

>> No.15100884

>>15100861
>lard with traces of beef
Does not compute.

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This was $110, was ok
I guess it was worth it because I did foot stuff with the girl after

>> No.15100967

>>15100950
Based. Did you cum on her toes?

>> No.15101135

>>15100967
inside the footpucci

>> No.15101149

>>15099534
i only like my Kobe when it's been cooked in airplane fuel after crashing into the ground for extra tenderness

>> No.15101244

I need to do foot stuff with my older vietnamese girlfriend. Unfortunately she is bad about waking her feet (as am i)

>> No.15101259

How much better do you think really gets? Not much. It’s just faggots wasting money on expensive shit because they think it’s classy or something. Yeah, it’s the best, but 2nd place is so close behind that 50/lb vs 4.99/lb makes the choice for you.

>> No.15101483

>>15099534
I don't understand teppanyaki
they don't rest the meat before they slice it
wtf?

is it just to keep it as hot as possible because it's so fatty and if it cools it congeals?

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>>15101259
have you ever eaten a prime ribeye steak? I thought beef was good but nothing amazing until i tried it.

It's truely next level.

I'm willing to entertain that the next level of quality is even better.

>> No.15101520

>>15101483
they usually just sear it before slicing, then cook it as cubes
no juice lost

>> No.15101545

>>15101520
that's how you're supposed to treat stew meat...

>> No.15101609

>>15101545
the meat they give you at those places is bottom shelf marinated sirloin anyway

>> No.15101680

>>15099647
I was reading about it a while back some of their prized peaches are actually grown in georgia and then sold in japan for the equivalent of about $65 each

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>>15099699
American detected.

>> No.15102120

>>15102109
Why didn't they bother to ask that one African country?

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>>15102120
>You want me to tell you the legality of horse consumption in the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic?
>Nah, I don't feel like it.

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>>15099647
>People hear that the Japanese pay tens of thousands of yen for first-of-the-season micromanaged perfect fruit and laugh.
they don't though?
careful selection of fruit, pruning back other fruits to increase sugar content, letting it fall naturally at peak ripeness, etc makes the fruit taste a whole lot better.

those Asian fruit gift boxes are almost always higher quality than the regular swill, because Asians don't shove food down their gullets like cattle. Best part is that they're usually almost the same price as the regular slop too, just that you have to make a bulk investment by buying a pack of 15 or so.

>> No.15102811

>>15101499
I don't think any food is worth spending upwards $200 for. That's just needless opulence and vanity.

>> No.15102828

>>15101483
some types of wagyu the beef fat on the meat is such high quality that melts at such a low temperature that it has to be kept chilled right up until it's time to be cooked

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It's "woman meat", because only a woman or someone with equal estrogen would fall for this marketing BS.

>>15102311
>Asians don't shove food down their gullets like cattle.
Yeah they slurp it up like pigs

>> No.15102937

>>15099845
Might as well go and take a bite out of your car like the uncivilized feral nigger you are. You're not supposed to eat horses.

>> No.15102957

>>15102937
My word.
The american truly is something else, isn't it?

>> No.15102965

>>15102937
Human beings are meant to eat whichever animal they damn well please, anon.

Even if it's poisonus.

>> No.15103083

>>15102811
yeah ok. buying a -good- prime ribeye to cook yourself doesn't cost $200 though.
but it sure as fuck isn't 4.99/lbs either

If you haven't actually experienced the point below meme territory, the true point before diminishing returns, then really your perspective is just a poorfag cope.

>> No.15103819

>>15102109
What is the burger's reasoning for this law?

>> No.15103852

>>15103819
Because Americans havent paved over their entire country to house imported Africans like Europe . We eat cows. When you can buy a delicious steak or a few pounds of burgers for $5 why would you eat some stinky horse for $10 a pound

>> No.15103860

>>15103852
I am not asking why burgers prefer to not eat it, asking what is the point of the law.

>> No.15103878

>>15103860
The United States has plenty of laws to protect the consumer because they care about citizens. I know consumer protection is unknown to the rest of the world who relies on the Latin saying res ipsa loquitor but we have progressed beyond those uncaring ways

>> No.15103910

>>15103819
Red Dead Redemption 2 is a good game.

>> No.15103915

>>15103878
How is banning horse meat protecting consumers. Where is muh freedom?

What is with this cope?

Wikipedia says it is because "horses in usa are not breed for consumption thus banned". Seems weird to ban it instead of putting regulations

>> No.15103918

>>15103878
>The United States has plenty of laws to protect the consumer because they care about citizens
10/10

>> No.15103924

>>15103915
The fact that they aren't bred for consumption means that they're unfit for consumption. By making it illegal to kill and sell horse meat they're protecting the consumer from things like disease. If you didn't know this, eating certain unsafe meats can spread disease.

>> No.15103930

>>15103915
Just because you are poor and can't afford beef doesn't mean the Americans should be forced to eat it, that's why non Americans eat meat full of hormones and pesticides and yall are short with deformed limbs and genitals

>> No.15104233

>>15099534
Yes but for the average person it's a waste. If $50/lb is nothing to you then yeah go for it.

>> No.15104241

>>15101483

This >>15102828, the really good stuff melts with your body temp just from holding it.

>> No.15104249

>>15099534
It's very good, but if you can't hit a three pointer with it every time, it's not Kobe.

>> No.15104254

>>15103819
People have trouble with the idea of eating animals that are "respected" like dogs, cats, and for some reason horses. The average American just doesn't seem them as livestock but instead as a prestige pet.

>> No.15104471

>>15103819
Americans are a bunch of moralfags. They see horses and think of muh cowboys, so they ban eating them instead of letting citizens choose.

>> No.15104477

>>15104233
the good stuff is closer to $300/lb

>> No.15105795

>>15099534
Huge meme

>> No.15105818

>>15099699
French in Quebec also eat horse meat, Delicious.

>> No.15105833

Its not a meme, its much better than many steaks but at a price. My parents got a few when they bought their beach house last year to celebrate and they were roughly $95 a pound which is on the cheap side. However they were fantastic.

>> No.15105843

>>15102828
>such high quality that melts at such a low temperature that it has to be kept chilled right up until it's time to be cooked
That doesn't seem like an indication of quality at all. That just means it is higher in unsaturated fat.

Higher quality meat would be higher in saturated fat. Raw beef fat should be like wax.

>> No.15105856

Anyone that says its not good got scammed at their local """Japanese""" restaurant that has no regulation overseeing what it serves as Kobe/Wagyu beef. It is however fucking expensive

>> No.15105872

>>15099534
It was in the 90s and early 00s, now it's a meme
sorry you missed out :(

>> No.15105876

daily reminder that kobe beef, real kobe beef, can only be bought in japan or in the close vicinity

Americans? Euros?

Yeah, that's not kobe beef. Once it's frozen or deep refrigerated it's soiled.

Sorry, anti-anti-podeans, you've been cucked out of good meat

>> No.15105883

>>15099534

It's one of those things that tasters couldn't tell apart in double blindfold test. It's all about brand and marketing.

>> No.15105891

>>15105883
found the podean

>> No.15106307

>>15104477
I have a feeling if they're asking $50 is already too much

>> No.15106418

>>15102311
>Asian fruit gift boxes are almost always higher quality
that's why they buy from Australia and the US?

>> No.15106634

>>15106418

Maybe some do but the Japanese absolutely do not. I went there twice for work and they gave my boss and I huge fruit baskets as gifts and they were all grown in Japan. They have a seriously odd culture regarding fruit.

>> No.15106653

Yes it's very good but nigga I ain't made of money

>> No.15106665

>>15102311
That's for gifts though, most people I knew in Japan bought their food at regular supermarkets like Ito Yokado, no different from the US other than the brands being sold. Or you know, Costco.

>> No.15106673

>>15099820
I don't understand how "returns" does not refer to cost in general, rather than just cost in the form of spent labor.

I'm pretty sure his usage was correct. Diminishing returns on *spent money*.

>> No.15106690

>>15106673
No him, but the basic rule of thumb would be the value attached to consumption vs resale. If you're looking at the value of the beef in terms of monetary value it'd be diminishing returns, diminishing utility would have to do enjoyment of something vs its cost.

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Yummy

>> No.15106697

>>15106692

>having such a fucking ugly cock

>> No.15106702

>>15102937
I think you are closed minded about it, you see horses as pets.
I have never eaten horse but if i ever get an oppertunity to get it i will. Besides horses don't serve much of a purpose anymore since we use machines to do hard labour instead of them, they are merly for entertainment such as racing and riding.

>> No.15106707

>>15106690
This makes more sense.

>> No.15106712

>>15103924
>as an american I should be entitled to government protection from consuming animals not bred as food
>also adopts turkey consumption as a national holiday event

>> No.15106715

>>15106702

I never had a horse but my cousin did (she was a literal “horse girl” stereotype) and theyre more like pets than you would think. They have personalities and quirks and are actually really loving.

But yes I would probably eat horse too.

>> No.15106867

>>15106692
wtf where did you get a picture of my cock

>> No.15106876

>>15099568
3 YEAR A5 PRIME WAGYU DRY AGE TEST FRIED IN WAGYU FAT SERVED WITH WAGYU SEMEN

>> No.15106920

>>15106673
The consumer maxes utility. The firms max profit by minimizing costs (optimizing return).

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>>15106876
>it's not a bag, it's a membrane

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>>15106876
DRY AGED WAGYU PENIS DEEPFRIED IN WAGYU SHIT EXPERIMENT
WOW GUYS

>> No.15108663

>>15099568
:O

>> No.15108677

>>15099534
A meme.

>> No.15108689

>>15106634
>They have a seriously odd culture regarding fruit.
It's because nipponese soil follows the ancient tradition of nipponese iron, namely being shit. They have to put stupid amounts of work into the local grown stuff, which is why it's so expensive.

>> No.15108893

>>15101149
Jet fuel can't make seared beef.

>> No.15108977

>>15102130
What kind of gaylord saves this pic on his pc?

>> No.15108986

>>15108689
>volcanic island
>the soil is shit
Anon, I..

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>>15099699
literally nothing wrong with that

>> No.15109359

>>15099699
American or bait detected. You can get horse anywhere in Europe.

>> No.15109596

>>15101135
Where is the footpucci? (Asking for a friend.)

>> No.15109719

>>15109359
No, you can't. There was a massive scandal about horse meat in Europe a few years back.

>> No.15109750

>>15109719
Only because it was meant to be beef. We bongs don’t eat horse but my italian wife does. French do too.

>> No.15109761

>>15109719
Yes we can. The scandal was passing off horsemeat as beef/pork.

>> No.15110109

>>15102937
bet you want to fuck every big rippling stallion you see

>> No.15110125

>>15109596
There are some questions best kept between you and your pastor, Anon.

>> No.15110145

>>15099534
Paid a couple hundred and had it well done before
It was alright

>> No.15110223

>>15110145
>and had it well don
Why would you do that?

>> No.15110430

>>15102120
learn your geography faggot

>> No.15110494

>>15109596
when the two feet go together the arch becomes the footpucci

if you were ever curious about the mythical 4th hole, that's it

>> No.15110503

>>15099534
Don't know. Never had it.

>> No.15110636

>>15104471
It feels good to live life as the "crusader" I call myself. I forget how the discussion came up one time, but I basically said I'd resort to cannibalism if it came to a situation of life and death and everyone gave me the evil eye and said how dare you. I know if you put someone in a situation actually like that, they'd do what they have to, I just get singled out as something horrible for being honest.

>> No.15111012

>>15102845
kek