/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>14986859

drink at home then.

ssething

>>14986859
>he goes to a bar to drink
Bars are for socializing, not for getting drunk

>he can't taste the difference between draft and can
pleb

>>14986869
Why not bring a pack of beer on a mountain? Why not buy and drink beer at a brewery!? Why not BYOB to a restaurant?

>>14986878
Fuck bro, I'd love to smash a box of beer on a Mountain.

>>14986865
>ssething

HEY HEY PEOPLE

>>14986874
>he doesn’t purchase a keg from his local brewery and hook it up to his draft lines that he cleans bi-weekly in his outdoor tool containment home and guest house

But yah get to the bar!

Or even

>he doesn’t brew his own beer with his neighbors and foster a sense of both community and fellowship with the people he lives around
>instead it’s better to give money to some random asshole

K

>>14986878
Most people don't hang out on mountains, so it's usually pretty tough to socialize that way.

>>14986890
But I don't want to drink a keg of the same beer, I want to drink a couple of pints of different beers

>>14986884
Yes! I would also not charge you $1 to hand you a fucking beer on the mountain!

Hold up, why the fuck are you tipping someone who poured you a beer?

>>14986874
>he can't taste the difference between draft and can

Nothing like the ball-cheesy bacterial bouquet of draft lines that haven't been cleaned in a year, eh?

>>14986893

Really? That's a shame... I live in them.

>>14986900
Why do you go to such shitty bars?

>>14986897
I thought the mountain was BYO..

>>14986896
You’re talking about a keg of beer which has the same monetary cost as 8 beers at the bar. Buy more kegs. If you are about to make the argument that you want to try 6 different beers from 6 different kegs that only works for like 3-4 nights and then you have done the combinations. Either you will have to argue to me that you’re going to go out and drink once and never again for months or admit you’re supporting assholes. You won’t admit any character flaws since it’s 2020 so really there is nothing to say to you other than go fuck your self.

>>14986899
To show off how much disposable income you have. Again, bar culture is entirely designed around what makes women horny.

>>14986901
Looks more like hills than mountains you pussy.

>>14986914
I will admit that I only drink once every couple of months

>>14986917

Whatever makes you feel better about living in an urban hellscape surrounded by people that want you dead.

>>14986918
You’re morally obligated to never drink the same beers twice or you will become the giant asshole. If what you are saying is true it is the one rare mathematical case where it’s true that a bar has some value, at which point just invest in your friends having more kegs over time and by the time you want to drink the pricing will be the same for you while heavily increasing value for your friends. Thus it is mora not to visit bars.

>>14986901
Anon, that’s a hill

>>14986916
This. If you work well in public, tip well, socialize, and are not awkward, women will bubble in their panties

>>14986927
>make your friends host an entire bar setup so none of you have to go to the bar and meet people
>this is the only moral action

>>14986859
It's called pre-drinking and bringing in your own pint. Try it sometime, retard.

>>14986941
I did not say it was the easiest course. It is the most moral.

How do you even order at a bar? I've never gone to one and I don't have any friends to bring with me. Do I just sit anywhere and wait for someone to notice me?

>>14986925
Triggered much bro..

>>14986982
At some bars, yeah. At others you walk up to the bar and tell them what kind of beer you want. It's not hard, m8, it's just like a restaurant but you get beer instead of food.

>>14986991
Alright, thanks. I wanna try visiting a bar at least once in my life

>>14987009
It's a small dream, you could literally go do it right now.

Bars are for having fun and socializing, not for saving money on booze. Don't be a loser that sits at the bar by himself.

>>14986859
That's normal for beers that aren't shit.

>>14987016
Or more. Bomb! is over $10 a glass when my local bar manages to get ahold of a keg.

>>14987009
What's stopping you from going right now?

Overpriced alcohol in general seems to be a problem in the west. Where in Japan I have heard it's almost cheaper to drink at a restaurant than to just buy it at a store. I'm Canadian so no matter where I purchase my booze I'm getting screwed over price wise.

>>14987025
I'm autistic

>>14986859
I prefer going straight to the brewery for beer and bringing food with me or they almost always have a food truck parked out front. I had fry bread tacos one time that were killer. Another place had a guy selling brats made with elk and venison and boar and shit. They were the best brats I've ever had.

>>14986859
>go during happy hour it's 3 bucks

Also 5 bucks for a beer is whatever, you poor? Don't go to normal bars if you are poor and get ale, order well rum and cokes

>>14987099
So? Throw on your roomy sweatpants, waddle out the door, and walk down the street to your nearest bar. They're not going to turn away your cash.

>>14987098
>Where in Japan I have heard it's almost cheaper to drink at a restaurant than to just buy it at a store.
If you like drinking a lot of mediocre beer in a small amount of time, sure, izakaya will give you as much as you can drink in hour-long time slots. If you really work at it, you can definitely drink more in an hour for a cheaper rate than if you bought the beers canned. You're still drinking shitty jap beer, though, because their craft industry is miniscule.

>>14987099
I'm definitely on the spectrum, but I love bars. No one bothers you. You feel like you're part of a group even if you don't know anyone there. I also like trying new beers and whiskies

>>14987113
But they'll think mean things about me

>>14987116
I'll do it eventually. I just have to muster up my courage

>>14987124
Do you work this hard to get tendies from McDonald's? It's literally no different.

>stingy serving so rampant here for so long that gov't stepped in and alcohol could only be served in approved glasses with approved pour lines
>glasses aren't certified anymore but the serving size regulations still exist
>somehow I'M the asshole when I call bylaw enforcement

NEET war now gas all normalfags

>>14987104
This is the quintessentially based Austin experience.

>>14987025
>>14987009
bars are closed due to covid rona

>>14987025
Lockdowns nigga.

>>14986887
kek thought the exact same thing

>>14987194
Austin minnesota?

>>14987254
>>14987258
Where? Everything's open in my state

>>14987272
Austin and the Twin Cities are perfect cultural twins, imo. Like if a hot brown tomboy and cold pale ice queen were twins.

>>14987315
Yeah when I went to austin all I thought was, this is like minneapolis but smells a little more of piss

>>14986859
Drink at home alone with your porn.

I’ll be at the bar with my buddies having fun with other strangers.

>>14986859
hah reminds me of when I paid 8 bucks for a fucking shot of bullet bourbon.
never again...

>>14986914
This nigga drunk as fuck

>>14986859
How shit are these pours that they're only getting 12oz to a pint? There should be a line, crown, or etching at the pint mark. That's where the liquid's supposed to come to for a pint. In England a pint's about 568mL, in the US, it's about 473, and in Canada it's 500mL. Any bar I've been in in the three countries has branded glasses (either the bar's brand, or the beers') with standardized pint marks.

>>14987393
... learn something new every day. Apparently Every pint I've ever had in Canada was short-changed. "Servers are legally required to pour an imperial pint of 568mL."

>>14987393
>>14987430

Samefag

>>14987446
Yeah, literally adding information to a post. Great sleuthing Matlock.

>>14987451

>>14987430
remember when liquor control boards actually enforced that
pepperidge farm remembers

>>14987464
In the UK, I've never had a problem - if it's short, or a shit pour, they'll top it up, or add a free pint. In Canada, I've never had a pint fall short of the line, I'm just pretty sure that it's only at 500mL. In the States, brewpubs seem to be the best place to get a pint - I get warned at shit venues and hotel bars that I'm better off ordering bottles.

>>14987464
I'm used to pints being poured to the rim of the glass, so it seems sort of irrelevant to me.

>>14987480

>>14987491
If it's 2" of head, that's kind of shite.

>>14987491
The extra room is for the head. An imperial pint glass gives four ounces over the line.

>>14987503
>>14987505
I don't even remember any noticeable head when I get a sour or an IPA. Stout is the main one I'll order where it's relevant.

>>14987512
You're getting bad pours.

>>14987519
If you like foam, I guess

>>14987512
It's harder to judge with a biergassed stout like Guinness or O'Hara's, but after the cascade there shouldn't be more than 1/2" of head.

>>14987278
Leafland

>>14987524
I do. But even if you don't, a layer of head keeps oxygen out of the beer and keeps the flavor fresh.

>>14987536
You're drinking the beer over the course of half an hour at most, there's no way oxygenation has that much of an effect.

>>14987540
Oxygen has an effect the second it touches beer.

>>14987524
There should be some foam, unless they're scraping it off the top like the garbage pours in Stella commercials. Any gas not on top of the beer is usually still in the beer.

>>14987544
Sure, a miniscule amount. I refuse to believe it is tastable.

>>14987549
If you can't taste the difference then you need to quit smoking.

FUck I want to go out and have a pint

>>14987544
You'd only ever notice it in that timeframe on the most fragile pilsner or cream ale. You certainly won't develop anything sherry-like or papery from less than half an hour's exposure to 6 square inches of pint.

>>14987558
It's cool that you've acclimated yourself to enjoy stale beer but I'm not that basic.

>>14987582
It's cool that you can psyche yourself into a placebo driven trance, but unless that beer is completely flat, it's still pushing out CO2. It will not oxidize as long as it's still pushing CO2 out of solution to lie atop it in the glass. If you can't tell the difference between Saaz and Hallertau, you probably couldn't tell the difference in port-like oxidation between a Rochefort 8 and a 10, even with that hint of the flavour to look for.

>>14986859
$6 pitchers of Budweiser at my pub. I set the high score two years ago with 7. Fell asleep at the gas station and woke up in an ambulance. Good times joggers.

>>14986859
>somehow this 12oz “pint” costs the same as 6 beers
You're also paying to stink up some barstool with your farts and to sit around with your ugly pal.
It's like rent.

>>14986884
Usually when one of my friends and I go hiking we bring a 20 oz can of beer each. Its fun along with some cannabis.

>>14987115
>>14987098
Just about every chain and bar I visited had all you can drink options. For example, when going to Yakiniku you can add on all you can drink for about $15.
Alternatively, there's some bars and Izakaya chains that offer fucking huge quantities of beer for cheap. iirc there's a chain that only charges 300 yen for everything on the menu, and that included like 40oz glasses of beer.

>>14987534
Sorry to hear it brah. Fuck trudeau

I found a bottle of bloody mary mix which says "best by June 2016"

Do you guys think it's safe to drink?

>>14987664
It's regionalized. Toronto, Montreal, and I think Vancouver are shut back down in Stage 2 (Montreal might just be under complete lock down with flamethrower troops burning corpses in the streets). Outside of major metropolitan areas, pubs are open. Hell, Toronto, Peel and I think Durham regions (Toronto and the immediate area) are shut right down. In the Oakville area, one side of Dundas st. is Peel and the other's Halton. The bars on the Halton side are open.

>>14987696
Montreal is basically completely shut down. I guess I could have a beer if I wanted to drive 25 minutes to some small ass town that closes at 11

>>14987791
The deps and breweries have great beer in Montreal though. Fuck the pubs - you'd probably just be drinking with one or two friends anyway. Grab some Cards against Humanity or something, and have a good night in with some close friends once-in-a-while.

>>14986925
I disagree with some of your points, but the hills or whatever your picture is, does looks like a comfy fucking place to live in.

>>14987802
It's not the same as having conversations with weirdos hanging out at the bar and shooting pool. I took my degenerate activities for granted

>>14987847
I miss the weirdos too... had some real fucked up, eye opening convos any time I wandered into a pub downtown Montreal. Usually begun with "Don't let these people give you any shit. It doesn't matter that your accent's terrible, or that you might as well be an American. You're a good person, and the world needs more good people. We should have a shot!"

Bars suck.
Every single bar I've been to was run like a tourist traps, even in non-trendy cities like Baltimore.

>>14987847
I talked to a fed ex guy once who was really into collective soul at a local brewery. He was nice and extremely drunk

>>14986887
Based sseth poster

>>14986859
you're paying for the atmosphere of the bar which you can't get at home drinking like an incel

>>14987996
you're paying to be surrounded by hipster faggots

>>14988042
>he's not a hipster faggot

>>14988042
you're paying for a chance to copulate with a human female

>>14988109
Not at the gay bar I'm not.

>>14986859
>Doesn't make his own beer
Never, I repeat, never, never in a mijillion years ever ever going to make it. Kill yourself

>>14988159
Most people don't. Most people that do never get good enough to give it away. Some that get good enough to sell it still make shitty beer.

>>14987254
>>14987258
Lol in your shitty country maybe.
We haven't had the virus for 6 months here. Bars, restaurants, concerts, night clubs, music festivals.... All back to normal.
Maybe you cunts should've stayed home for 6 weeks back in April.

>>14986968
kill yourself

>>14987393
>>14987430
same in the UK too. pints must be exactly 568ml (1 pint) by law (although most people do get shortchanged because of the head)

/Cheapassthread/

>>14989371
Hey! You came back! How was sobriety? The usual?

>>14988182
Let me guess, tiny population on an isolated island?

>>14986893
but mountains are the best place to hang out and drink beer

>>14986887

>>14986901

Those aren't mountains.

T. Coloradofag.

>>14989878
No, New Zealand.

>>14989964
So yes

>>14987661
>go hiking
>stinky fucking beaners have littered the trails with smashed bottles, used pipes, and dogshit
I really fucking hate you. These spaces were beautiful before you decided to make them into the pisshole crackhouses you scuttled out of.

>>14989982
???
You must live in California. Where i live people always pack out their trash/dogshit and whatever else. Its not hard to take some beers hiking and not litter. Sorry your life sucks.

>>14986939
It can't be that easy can it bros...

>>14986859
$7 is 20 cans of hamms

>>14989982
>littered the trails with smashed bottles, used pipes, and dogshit
you must not leave the city to go for a hike

>>14990115
>>14990167
They literally had to close a park because of all the garbage. It's about an hour's drive from Denver.
Never, ever legalize weed. You'll live to regret it.

>>14990270
>people visit colorado from all over to view countryside
>somehow the fault of weed

>>14989964
So a shithole faggy island.
Enjoy being a subhuman.

>>14990280
>dude weed lmao bros are totally always clean and look up after the places they're in

Sure, that's why their cities are bastions of order and cleanliness right

>>14986925
Those are hills, man. Very pretty but not mountains, I'm gonna guess you live in the Ozarks.

>>14986859
>Go to bar.
>Pay 7.00 for a beer.
>Get covid as a bonus.

Drinking a beer at home while relaxing is 10x better than the public alternative.

you guys are such silly autists. anyway where i'm from, people don't really go to bars alone. going out here is always in groups or social circles. sometimes i wish i could just walk into a bar and meet people easily like in the west, but here everyone is confined to their groups, friends, or acquaintances in bars.

You need to be 18 to post here

>>14986859
>plus tax
>plus tip
Lmao, what third world country do you live in where the price isn't just the price?

>>14990536
It's not super usual to walk into a place and strike up a conversation with a total stranger, but every now and then - especially after a couple drinks - someone catches someone else's vibes, and some good conversations and friendships can come of that. So can some horrible relationships and quickly forgotten one-offs.

>>14990621
Where are you that tax and gratuity are automatically included?

>>14990639
Most countries include the tax in the price of the meal because people don't like knowing how much they're paying the government.

You can report that place if they're fucking you on volumes. They can lose their loisence.

One good thing about Canada: if you think your pint pour is short, you can snitch on them to the government.

>>14991142
Or, you could be less of an ass, and bring it to the attention of your server for a free/full pint.

>>14986859
If you had a taproom closer than the bar why didn't you just go there to begin with? The only reason to go to bars anyway these days is for the food, but most taprooms have food trucks.

>>14991150
>Get shorted on a product you pay for
>Which is really fucking easy to standardize volumes within a reasonable margin
>Bar which has to go through a licensing procedure clearly does this consistently to grift customers
>Oh just be nice to the heckin' millionairinos! They're doing an oopsie! Just a silly jewin'

>>14991165
damn, i can become a millionaire just by opening up a bar?

>>14991165
If you know a bar owner who's making that kind of bank, send me an address - I'm nabbing some of those tips.

If the bar does it consistently, then yeah, do something about it. If it's a service industry fuckup - new keg, error on a tank/line change, new staff - just get your free pint and put it in your mouth before more words fall out.

>>14986859
Some beers taste better from tap depending on area, but bars are for socializing and picking up women.

>>14991180
Not right now. And you'd have to put about $500K into opening a bar in order to reap a million profit over a five year period. Alcohol's got a better margin than food does, but not without added risk, and the training needed to mitigate it.

>>14991165
The only "heckin' millionairinos" selling beer are Disney and people who own similar venues like sports stadiums, and at those places you're paying $10 for an 8 ounce plastic cup of rebranded macrolager. And nobody is "standardizing" a pint into a 12oz glass, because nobody but OP would fall for that, and he's obviously not going to be a repeat customer.

>>14986859
That "friend" of yours ought to have kicked your stupid ass for embarrassing him like that, that's absolute horseshit and I HAVE been that friend. We were invited to a local taproom (aka a brewery-owned bar that serves the brewery's brews) and he said to the bartender "Yeah uhh I'll have uh Miller", she and the guy who invited us both looked at him dumbfounded, he pitched a fit. "Five dollars for a beer? Guess I'm having ONE fucking beer, then. What kind of a bar doesn't have fucking Miller?". God I'm still seething over it, horrifically classless ass-fucking-hole.

>>14991190
Fuck you dude.
If you short me what you're legally obligated to provide, I am reporting your ass to the liquor board. They send people in to investigate this shit. You will get caught, you will lose your license, you will get fucking punished for your grifting. There is literally no excuse for not giving a proper pour. If you cannot do the bare minimum to run your business, you do not deserve to be in business.

>>14991218
>$5 for a beer
Oh to live in the States. Miller's not even $5 a pint on sale here.

>>14991150
If it's an honest mistake of a pour yeah, by all means. However, if you live outside of eastern Canada it's often a case of misrepresenting product entirely.

>>14991225
Haha. Is this what they call the "Karen" meme?

>>14991225
If you go around reporting establishments instead of accepting a replacement pint possibly for free on top of the now-free shit pint you got, you can absolutely expect to be investigated for abuses of the legal system, and blacklisted on a city-wide basis once people catch on. They can refuse you service for any reason, especially when that reason is that you go out of your way to harm businesses in the field.

>>14986884
I tried this but when i got to the summit i only has one since i was afraid of falling off the mountain drunk on my hike back

>>14991244
Welcome to my blog. I apologize now, and profusely throughout.

I was on tour with a band in Vancouver. We had a day's rehearsal, which went smoothly, so we hit the pub. Someone fucked up a keg changeover so hard it fucked up the whole system - milk pours for everyone. The owner was behind the bar, and she was FUCKING MORTIFIED... So a bunch of musicians, crew, and locals drank for free until closing.

We gave her a bunch of backstage passes for that. We thought it was pretty decent of her to keep serving instead of closing down.

>>14987661
wow 20 whole ounces?

>>14990159
It's not "that easy", but both of those posters are describing essentially how the game is played in simple terms. I've also known people (well, one guy in par-TIC-u-lar) who have gone all in on that and genuinely fucked their financial health by playing that game too-desperately, going to bars too often and attempting to flaunt money they don't have to impress girls who would be repulsed by literally-everything-else-about-them except for the material benefit they can reap from this one man's desperation.

Make no mistake, though. "Fancy" bars and restaurants, "with good atmosphere", are merely stages on which to perform. Come to play, or stay home. Anyone who balks at 5-7 dollars for a pint of good beer is unfit to be taking up space in those kinds of places, better-served at dives with the 2-dollar-PBR's, and even then (especially then?) tip well to avoid being dreaded by the service staff. If you want cheap, too-plentiful booze without being expected to perform pro-social behavior, literally go to the grocery store and take your shamewasser home.

>>14991264
Yeah, and that's good ass service and also an honest mistake.
My problem is folks in more touristy areas who advertise a pint and price it like 20oz but then make it between 12-16oz and do not clearly indicate pour volumes on the menu. That's shady business, and outright illegal.
I mean I have no problem with a smaller pint, so long as it's clearly indicated and priced as such.

>>14991247
Imagine being this delusional
I'm not going to report every company willy nilly. Also, complaints can be anonymous. Fuckin retard. Go make me my tendies you fucking food service cuck.

>>14991313
They couldn't even offer a 12 oz "pint" or a 16 oz pint outside of the US. Apparently if I go down the road and say "Je voudrais une pinte s'il vous plait," they have to bring me 40oz. That must be hell in Montreal.

>>14991323
>Imagine thinking people believe you'll leave the house.