/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>14969325
no, macallan 12 sherried really is awful. it's cloyingly sweet, like everything you hate about cough syrup but worse.

Americans are dumb as fuck
Kilchoman is a council estate on islay.

>Glenrothes 10 is a particularly wonderful "dram"
Glenrothes was a dumping ground for weedgies that out weedgied glasgow.
pic related is glenrothes.
oban is a dropping off point for low-tier east-european prostitutes and Highland Park is a well known place for dogging and cottaging.
Glenmorangie is focal point for the scottish cock fighting and dog fighting community.

My Dad shagged a transvestite in the Ardbeg public toilets, in the 80's, before it was cool

>>14970916
>American
yes
>council estate
idk what that is, welfare housing?

>dogging
this one means fucking strangers, right?
>cottaging
no idea on this one, help a burger out.

anyway what's your overall point? that we drink scotch thinking it's refined and highly cultural, but the places it comes from are all ghetto and looked-down-upon?

>>14970916
I like how you left out how Speyside, North of the Cairngorms is one of the most beautiful regions of the UK and on the right day, truly spectacular.

>>14970639
Hard to say, It's not like I've compared them back to back.
Glenlivet 18, Inchmoan 12, North Star Fettercairn 12, Old Pulteney 18, Taketsuru Pure Malt, 1960's Haig, or maybe just JW blue.

Glenlivet 18 was pure luck. A friend was in Taiwan and I told him to buy Glenfiddich 18 because it was by far the best savings. He bought the wrong bottle. Tried it with him.
Blue was a sip at another friends place.
The rest were at a whisky bar. The most expensive, Old Pulteney 18, was gifted by some guy who liked the idea of a friend and I working our way through the menu. He also payed for Hibiki 17 and another $50 dram that also didn't make the cut. DESU the Pulteney 18 is only marginally better than the 12 and totally isn't worth the money despite being on the above list.

>>14970916
>Glenrothes was a dumping ground for weedgies that out weedgied glasgow
Glenrothes has the most sherry flavour out of any whisky I've ever tried including other 100% sherry matured whisky's. If it's a dumping ground what does that say about Glendronach, Aberlour or Glenfarclas?

>>14970639
Redbreast 27
Drinking it by myself on my 27th birthday while eating Whataburger
It's good stuff, the port works wonders

What's everyone's favorite (relatively) low cost ol reliable?

For me, it's Evan Williams black label, followed by Wolcott. Need to poke around in scotches more tbqh and find one in that category. JW Double Black is a nice blended one, but I gotta find a solid Single Malt I can always fall back on.

>best whiskey
Laphroaig 10
>circumstances
it was getting shilled in whiskey threads so I went to my liquor store and bought a bottle

>>14971176
Oh and to answer the thread question:

>best whisk(e)y you've had
Slane

>circumstances
March birthday, got a collection of Irish bottles to match the month. Fell in love with Slane over the others (iirc i tried Bushmills and one other I forgot), and I've been a slut for anything sherry casked ever since.

>>14971176
>>14971211
You're drinking real garbage. I don't think whisky that cheap is tolerable.
If I had to pick particularly good value whiskies I'd go with Glen Moray 15 or Starward 2 Fold. But I'd really want to push that little bit further and hit Ardbeg 10 or a Dalwhinnie 15 on sale.

>>14970639
i have a friend from my tiny home town, who is a brewer (really tiny brewery, he doesn't even have a website, but the beer is excellent), once he tried to make a whiskey, in scotch style, matured in ex-port casks (here in portugal it's easy to get a hold of used port casks).

One day he was closing for the night and I was the last customer, he figured it would be a good time to show me the whiskey.

Holy shit lads. Even thought it's only 3 years old, it was a great dram. Viscous, oily, really long aftertaste... Of course, it was cask strength, non chill filtered, and no caramel added... He used a small barrel so this 3 year old tasted more like a 10 year old. Our warmer climate and drier climate may have helped too.

Sadly, it was only an experiment and he only used one barrel, so it ran out.

>>14971256

>hur dur preferences are objective, your faves are trash

I'll put the ones you're suggesting on my wish list for when I'm not a broke student, but I've learned to enjoy the sub-$35 bottles of "garbage" I can actually fucking afford.

>>14971309

Tell that dipshit to do both beer and whiskey, start an empire, get bought out by Diageo and become a millionaire.

>>14971340
They are mixing spirits.
And saying drink better stuff isn't a meritless argument. You should seriously consider drinking beer or wine which does far better at those price points.

Actually here there is no sub $35 whisky at all (JW black ~$50) so you wouldn't even have the choice.

>>14971360
fuck diageo

>I dilute and/or chill my whiskey

Can /ck/ rec me any good bourbons? Willing to spend up to $100 when I head to the liquor store tomorrow.

>>14971920
Old Grand-Dad 114
Woodford Reserve Double Oaked (or, if you can find it, Double Double Oaked)

>>14971965
>Old Grand-Dad 114
I like the proof, but the price scares me. What makes you recommend it?
>Woodford Double
Definitely on my short list.

>>14971612
realistically speaking, playing with the water on a new bottle above the shoulder is good to find where you get the most favor. Ice throws a wrench into the whole experience imho. May as well have a cocktail.

>>14971920
Wild Turkey 101 - balanced and cheap
Makers Mark OG or Barrel Strength - Light and Tastey
Old Grandad 114 - Bold/complex and spicy
Evan Williams Bottled in Bond - rich with oak
Buffalo Trace - Sweet and fruity with some vanilla
Knob Creek - Sweet and Oakey
Elijah Craig Small Batch - like WT101 but with its chest stuck out
Old Forester 1920 Prohibition - overpriced and underwhelming

dont go overspending on bourbon. more than $40 a bottle is too much. the flavor stops expanding and your bling factor starts going up.

OGG114 is worth the price as long as it under $40, dont fret you'll probably want a second bottle before your half done with the first.

>>14971990
>What makes you recommend it?
It's as intensely flavorful as anything under $100.

Total Wine in Mountain View, CA (right next to Palo Alto - super wealthy area) has a $45,000 whiskey - a 50 year old Balvenie.
Balvenie has very little flavor to the spirit, so this is obviously all cask.
How silly.

>>14972053
>>14972039
How's OG114 compare to the BiB version?

>>14972087
skipped it and went straight to 114, but if you believe the "higher strength = more flavor" then lower proof = less flavor naturally. for me the 114 is the typical bourbon but with a clear rye note and a spicy effect on your tongue like cinnamon. it holds a few drops of water and mixes well with lighter whiskeys but i wouldn't do too much of either because the punch upfront is kind of its move. I've heard people talk about the BIB and remember hearing it having a slightly acetone nose, but i dont get that on the 114 after letting it sit for a few mins so idk. my bottle is about a month old and well under half and its started to get sweeter since, but its still not too sweet. the difference is like $10 at most and would recommend the 114 over BiB anyday.

>>14972268
Higher proof doesn't always mean more flavor, and you've left out quality of flavor from your analysis. Which is important because when it comes to scotch you're often comparing a cask strength NAS against an older 40-46% abv bottle.

Actually, I suspect the improvement from abv might cap out in the low 50's. But I'll trust the distillers rather than dilute a whole bottle and sit on it for a month, risking the whole thing.

>>14971134
>some guy
>multiple shots that cost as much as 7 or 8 shots at a party bar
Yall missed an interesting threesome

>>14972061
Some tech bro will buy it spontaneously when he sells his shitty app idea for $1m.

Recommendations for bourbon?

>>14972426
wild turkey 101

>>14972380
I don't need to be doing shots, I had already tried like 35 whiskies that night.
And in the general case where I'm drinking at anywhere but a bar, party shot prices buy you a fairly high end bottle of scotch.

Also I'm totally not into threesomes, let alone MMM; the worst possible threesome.

>>14971612
Depends entirely on the whisky.

>>14972313
>and you've left out quality of flavor from your analysis.
>>14972039
>Old Grandad 114 - Bold/complex and spicy
flavor is big, makes me salivate, decently long sweet and tannin-y finish and you can taste each note pretty clearly without much digging. its got balls and let you know first sip. if you havent had much rye before, having some immediately before will help you notice that chunk of the mashbill, but if you have had rye and dont prefer it, it could turn you off.

>>14972426
>cheap
EW BiB
>middle shelf
Maker's 47, Rowan's creek
>higher end
Noah's Mill

>>14970639
I've had jw blue on a few occasions but I think Michter 10 year was the best I've had.

>>14972528
>reseller faggotry raised the price from 100 to 150
>it still sells out instantly

bourbon crash when
I can still readily secure Shenk's/Bomberger's, which are both Michter's stock and are rumored to be at least 10 years old, and are both cheaper.

>>14972534
It costs $250 here, as opposed to JW Blue's $200.

>>14972534
I don't know what you're talking about but mine were all single shot situations from 25 to 40 dollars per. I'll say the best shot I've ever purchased was Don Julio 1942 for 6 bucks from people that didn't understand what they had. I think you can still get it for ten at Stage Door in Vegas.

>>14972313
>less diluted doesn't always mean more flavor
Yes it does, baka.

>>14972398
kek probably
I'd rather have 500-1000 bottles of $45-90 whiskey.

>cooking board
>full of alcoholics
why am i not surprised.

>>14972601
There's plenty of examples of less flavorful higher abv spirits.

>>14972630
There are zero examples of 10-year-old cask strength releases which are less flavorful than their 10-year-old 80-100 proof counterparts.

>>14972638
Glenfiddich's 15 year old cask strength release is less intense than the regular 15 year old.
Glengoyne 10 isn't less intense than it's NAS cask strength.

>>14972755
>Glenfiddich's 15 year old cask strength release is less intense than the regular 15 year old.
If it is, then the regular 15 year old is NOT simply the cask strength release diluted. They must differ in an additional way which makes the regular not really the CS release's "counterpart", like different ratios of different ages, etc.

>>14972763
You act like there's some causal truth behind this.
Flavors change at different abvs, it's not just straight amplification, and alcohol will numb the tongue at higher abvs reducing flavor.

>>14972919
>Flavors change at different abvs, it's not just straight amplification
Broscience.
>but muh guaiacol study
Whiskey just diluted in a glass =/= whiskey diluted at the distillery then allowed to rest and combine for fuck knows how long before it reaches the consumer.
>alcohol will numb the tongue at higher abvs
Certainly not the first seconds of the first sip, and since the numbness does wear off gradually and quickly, if it's actually impacting your flavor perception you're drinking your whiskey too quickly.

Should I get Four Roses Single Barrel or Small Batch?

I cant find ancient age anywhere. I mean ANYWHERE. Im checking distributor sites and it does not exist. Is this a kentucky only thing?

can you even like whisky if you hate cuck daniels

thoughts?

>>14973253
neither

>>14973253
Old Grand-Dad 114 > Four Roses Single Barrel > Four Roses Small Batch

High rye > other bourbons

OGD 114 > other high rye bourbons

>>14974408
Yes, that's bad whiskey. Even fucking Evan Williams Black Label is better.

>>14970639
For me it's Lagavulin 16.
And no, I don't watch Parks and Rec

>>14970639
Excluding scotch, I'd say makers 46.

>>14970639
Oban 14 or Clynelish 14
Oban is also the first decent scotch that I tried, at a bar, paying €3,50 for a glass years ago, because the name was the same as a french/japanese cartoon I watched and I thought it would be cool to get into whisky.
Clynelish I ordered last month at a whisky bar I'm visiting lately when I was with a friend who is also somewhat into whisky, among the ones I tried in that bar it was the one I liked best.

Whats a good beginners whiskey? I drink a lot of fireball but didn't think that really counts

>>14975918
wild turkey 101

One of the Glen Morangie 12 year olds - can't remember which - in some 17th century timber framed pub in Worcester bought for me by a friend I lost contact with years ago.
Many pints before that so that might have impaired my judgement

Just drink jack. You also won’t look like a pretentious douchebag while doing it.

is maker's mark a good beginner whiskey?

>>14976892
You could pick worse. But it’s pretty one-dimensional and, dare I say, soulless. Same with Wild Turkey.

I think Larceny or even Bulleit make for better low-cost intro bourbons, or Old Forester 100 or Elijah Craig if you want something with more balls.

>>14976892
That's a fine beginner whiskey. It's on par with Buffalo Trace, and Bulleit.

My personal preference in that price range is Wild Turkey 101 though.

Ok you fucks, you've finally memed me into buying your faggy bourbon Wild Turkey 101. It is literally..okay. While it has nothing on a decent single malt it is not the trash i thought it would be. For the price it packs a decent punch. Why is it so sweet though? Do you add water to it?

For me its single barrel Knob Creek

>>14975362
I enjoy Jack Daniels but I accept it for what it is, its like the smirnoff of bourbon.
Problem is, here in Canada at least that for the same price the sell Jack I can get Bulleit or Makers Mark so I usually just go with the latter.
If shit was cheaper it would be my daily drink but fuck me if I have to pay $35 for a quart of cheap whisky.

>>14977128
>Do you add water to it?
>>14971612

>>14976455
There's not that many, why wouldn't you just try them all?

>>14975841
Get ahold of the GoT Clynleish if you can. Clynelish is way better at higher abvs.

>>14972948
What a load of shit.
The only thread of truth here is that you need to wait when diluting whisky, but it's totally irrelevant.

>>14977214
You don't need to do shit when diluting whisky because you shouldn't dilute whisky. Opinion disregarded.
I bet you don't even drink 6 PM. Life begins at 6 PM.

Recently found this as a great midshelf option

>>14977222
You've misinterpreted the points presented by both sides.
We're not talking about adding water to whisky in your glass while drinking, but about distillers adding water to whisky prior to bottling.

I am firmly on team trust the distiller, and drink it at whatever proof the whisky is bottled at.
The other guy believes that the only reason not to bottle at cask strength is to cut costs.
There's more to it than that. Especially when the whisky is bottled at 50% and over.
But he's all like fuck you, alcohol = flavor, all dissent is unscientific because science is about unquestioning dogmatic belief based upon intuition, your tongue isn't working.

>>14972426
Depends on your price range.
For me, I love Buffalo Trace, Eagle Rare, Wild Turkey Rare Breed, and Jack Daniels Gentleman Jack.
All of below $40 at stores.

I only drink the most prestigious whiskey from the most skilled artisans.

>>14977414
Distillers shouldn't add water to whiskey. They should always sell it cask strength and let the buyer decide how much they want to dilute it.
The patricians, of course, will enjoy it neat and appreciate the whiskey at its most intensely flavorful.

>totalwine finally gets a shipment of Mellow Corn
>its a whopping 2(count them two) fucking cases
>12 whole bottles after being out of stock for 1/3 of the year
>2 bottles already gone less than 12 hours after the site is updated
on dram #2 and its very plain, but plenty sweet with little to no oak. 8 drops of water after 5-10 mins of being in the glass is the best its been. I had a flavor that made me think of the fairground as a kid and thats been high note of the whole thing so far. Second most distinctive note is raw corn husk followed by almost kettle corn like sweetness on the back of a sawdust flavor. Not bad, but isnt blowing away either. It'll be a week or so before I know if its daily sips tier.

>>14977222
6pm? woooow!

just picked this bottle up today for 38USD. Going to try it here in a little, will post thoughts.

>>14977577
It's too good!
Whiskey is not just a drink, it's a spirit to polish your soul!
It's for people with class, and the lessons they have learned on their own.

>>14977475
Is it the most intensely flavorful though? And even if it is the most intense, is it the best?
I have had less intense flavors at higher abv. And I've had the same bad flavor, but more intense, at higher abvs. If you look at any video of distillers trying to pick an abv for their whisky you will see that different flavors change different amounts depending on abv.

Why do you think you could do a better job deciding the correct abv than the pros.

Have you ever had anything distilled above 63.5% and did it help?
I've had an over proof rum. I've had home made whiskies and rums distilled on column stills. It doesn't help beyond what you would get from 5X% abv. And unless you're drunk to start with it will burn your tongue immediately masking flavor, then numb it, continuing to mask flavor.
Some cask strength whiskies have this level of burn, some are really subtle even at high abv.

Have you ever had anything fortified with neutral spirit and did it help?
It doesn't imo. At least not above like 8%. Alcohol is not the source of flavor.

>>14977524
You know the response to demand is delayed by the age of the whisky right? Unless the distillers predictions were spot on in terms of growth.

>>14977927
>Is it the most intensely flavorful though?
Yes.
>is it the best?
Yes.

>>14977950
Read
>>14977414
>But he's all like fuck you, alcohol = flavor, all dissent is unscientific because science is about unquestioning dogmatic belief based upon intuition, your tongue isn't working.

>>14978020
I did read that objectively, factually incorrect post.

>>14973396
where do you live? It's fucking everywhere in texas

>>14978250
new england

>>14978232
Wear that willful ignorance like an armor, it will protect you.

I know this is a whiskey thread, but give me some mid tier/inexpensive brandy recommendations.

>>14977207
thanks for the heads up, I considered it months ago but haven't tried the 14 at that point, and last week when I checked a bottle of the GoT edition went up to ~€85
I'll be sure to buy a bottle if it returns to around €50 though

>>14970916
this is correct. scotch is very gross. almost any other alcohol will taste better because they aren't trying to make it out of the stuff the horses did not want to eat.

just bought some bulleit rye

What whisky should I buy and display in my cabin to show that I'm a man of good taste?

>>14981661
something you like
don't be like these chinese and indians buying things to covertly tell others you're wealthy

>>14981661
A premium 2012 Sierra Leone, black edition boosted cask strenght

>>14981695
If you're displaying it it probably shouldn't be half empty. Buy a collectors set or something discontinued. Benromach is making their labels ugly moving forward, maybe pick up a bottle. Get an old Quinta ruben if you can find one floating around (even though it's worse).

>>14978604
I like martel VSOPs.
Also Hennessy Master Blenders is pretty good if you're willing to go highish end.
Château Du Tarique VSOP is like a more boring Speyside, maybe give the XO a go.

>>14976491
Overpriced for what it is. get the Aldi knockoff, it isn't any worse.

>>14976934
>Bull
Yeah

>>14976491
Jack is some nasty shit and you should feel bad for drinking that, only bitches and homosexuals drink that shit.

Fuck, i thought getting a lot of booze and drinking it would somewhat fill the void but i got 4 new bottles and i feel empty. Even the drinks don't taste so good anymore. Not like they used to. Am i just not drinking enough?

>>14982484

>>14982484
how is the bottle floating

>>14970639
I’ve been really getting into old fashioneds. Anyone have any bourbon/variation recommendations?

>>14982966
knob creek single barrel and/or willett family estate 4 year rye if you can find it
bourbon old fashioneds are wimpy unless it's high-proof

>>14970916
>Kilchoman is a council estate on islay.
What's it like being retarded?
I've been there by the way, its not anywhere close to a council estate that you'd find in Manchester much less Glasgow.
>>14971176
Standard Buffalo Trace and Wild Turkey 101 are good everyday bourbons. For scotch, Islay Mist is alright as is Black Bottle.
>>14971309
Which brewery? Lots of distilleries run a still while selling beer to pay for the operations. Tell him to do that if he can get the licensing for the stills and warehousing and it doesn't break the bank. Good whisky if marketed correctly is a strong commodity.
>>14972061
You've clearly never had indie bottled Balvenie (Burnside) then. Because a lot of them are exceptional and cost nowhere near as much as OB Balvenie.

>>14982957
I don't know that one is empty and thrown away.

I don't know about the best whisky. but I'm enjoying some Ardbeg 21 right now.

>>14982966
An old aunt used to make me "old fashioneds" when I was a little kid. There was no alcholol it was pretty much just chocolate syrup and high powered seltzer water. She had those really cool old seltzer water bottles with those bottle chargers.

>>14983173

>>14983182
>>14982966
When that aunt and uncle weren't around a cousin and I used to have seltzer water fights with those things. It was hilarious.

>>14983195
>glass isn't skinnier on top than on bottom to facilitate funneling of aromas to the nose
>alienware

>>14983153
Here independent bottlings cost $100 minimum. And the ones at that price are not amazing, though they do feature whisky that doesn't get imported.

choose one and why

>>14983492
Which market are you in? If you're in the USA even control states have ways to get in liquor from the U.K. that even after shipping are worthwhile and customs rarely give a shit.

>>14982983
Had knob creek but I’ll for sure try the others

Cognac is better than brandy which is better than whiskey but vodka beats them all

>>14970639
What’s the consensus on Woodford Reserve?

>>14986192
The basic bourbon is mediocre, the double oaked is excellent.

>>14983153
>Which brewery?
It's in Portugal, you wouldn't know it.

>>14986189
And Armagnac is beter than Cognac.

>>14984418
left, because the bottle looks a tiny bit less bad

>>14984418
bruichladdich, more alcohol and basically the same profile, less peaty, more coastal

it's another "I grabbed something new at total wine for the hell of it" episode.

it's really not that good, especially when OGD114 is available for cheaper as well.

yeah each sip is just regret.

fuck

>>14986673
>tfw I nabbed the last two Longrows and the last OGD114 from the shelf on my last Total Wine run
Feels good, man.

>>14986673
TW employee here
the whole hickory hill line is trash, the devil's river cask strength is good but less rye-driven compared to OGD
you can make a good whiskey sour with it though, that's what I did with mine

My location almost never sells OGD114 except to me

>>14986707
whats the employee benefits like there and why is their rewards program such shit?

>>14986650
is Craigellachie actually peated though? I've seen it on peat lists/recommendations but not one review has mentioned peat.

>>14987043
>why is their rewards program such shit
I don't work there but this is obvious: because their prices are already very fucking low.
I'd much rather have a store with very low prices and minimal sales/rewards programs/etc. rather than the CVS Pharmacy model of stupidly high prices and aggressive sales and discounts to make you feel like you're not getting raped when you're actually getting raped without lube.

>>14987068
>very fucking low
it varies. some stuff is priced comparatively, but others are just stupid high on already pricey bottles. in my area they compete with Friar Tucks which has like nothing in terms of the variety. Store is basically half the size and the whiskey isle in small as fuck and split between bourbon, rye, Canadian and scotch. their prices are usually only a few dollars difference if at all. Hell my TW doesnt even stock Eagle Rare or Longrow. Friars is even worse.

>>14986189
cognac is brandy.

>>14986267
Probably not but I'm curious to know. I've never heard of Portuguese whisky so your buddy would definitely have a first to the finish line advantage.

>>14978604
I always recommend Maison Rouge, cheap enough to cook with even. It's my go too. Copper & Kings if you are looking for decent american brandy, and Laird's 12 year is always tasty if you are looking for a good apple brandy.

fucking cork is shot on the Glenfarclas 12 AGAIN.
at least this time it didnt taint the whisky. best thing Macallan 12 has done in years is sacrifice its unused cap.

>collecting whiskey to drink
Based
>collecting whiskey to hoard and not drink
Unbased
>collecting whiskey to not drink but, rather, to display
Turbo-unbased

>>14989315
My favorite port has a glass cork which I think is pretty fucking neato.

>>14972426
Maker's Mark. No way back.

>>14972426
Old Grand-Dad 114 if you are a man.
Maker's Mark if you are a woman or a gay homosexual.

Got the last bottle of Glenfiddich 14 at my local liquor store.

What am I in for

>>14990474
A lack of flavor or interestingness.

>>14989514
What if I display it to offer it to friends? I don't drink myself, but enjoy when people do.

>>14990804
You are probably based and a great host

>>14990827
I have mostly budget stuff, but pretty much everything from recommended lists, like the Glenlivet 18, Glenmorangie Quinta Ruban 14, Ardbeg Uigeadail, Bunnahabhain 12, Green Spot, Redbreast 12, Liberties Copper Alley, Teeling Brabazon, Hibiki Harmony, Rowan's Creek, Noah's Mill, Don Julio tequila, Roku and Hendrick's gins (the bottles are awesome), some rums like Mt. Gay XO, St. Nicolas Abbey Rum, Santa Teresa 1796 Doorly's and Appleton. If anons have any suggestions what they'd like to be offered on a visit, I'd like to look at them.

Do these glasses really make a difference?

I've never had a whiskey I liked

>>14991498
definitely. it may seem sort of gay or hip or whatever but legitamately adds a hefty amount of smell and taste you would otherwise be missing.

Picked up a bottle of this the other day. It's pretty good.
There's some peat in there, but not so much that it would scare away a newbie. Probably a good peated single malt for someone who wants to try it but isn't ready for a Laphroaig.
I like a lot of peat, but I'm not always in the mood for it, so I think I'll be keeping this around for when I just want a glass of something that goes a little easy on it.
Very nice for sipping overall.
Tried it with a little water and that was good too, but didn't really give me any notes that I had been missing when I had it neat.

>>14991655
it doesn't look gay until you put a giant stem on it like this queer >>14991669

>>14970639
My father bought a bottle of Ardbeg whiskey the day I was born. It's remained sealed, to be opened and consumed at my funeral. That whiskey is now 63 years old, my age plus 10. He has a bottle his father bought when he was born, and it's now almost 87 years old, 10 plus his age. My grandfather's bottle contained whiskey that was 103 years old when we drank it at his funeral.

>>14987043
Employee benefits are 30% off yellow-tag wine, 10% off non-yellow tag wine and yellow tag spirits
6 or 12 free bottles of wine a month if part time/full time, case total must be under 100/200 dollars if you haven't completed the optional internal certification or 150/300 if you have
all bottles must be yellow-tag
a free mixed six-pack of beer a month if you complete the cicerone training, must be under 50 bucks
It's pretty solid considering I only work there 4 times a month for the benefits, but the pay's just so-so. No commission

Rewards program is shit because certain states prohibit coupons/discounts on liquor, so they had to make it as backwards as possible to not break any state laws. However, if you wait until the 5x point events they do a few times a year, you can get several rewards in one transaction.

Craigellachie has slight peat in the ballpark of JW black, but it's mostly overshadowed by everything else. It is not the focus by any means

What is the wine of whiskey? Im thinking sherry

>>14992274
you mean the whiskey of wine? It's probably Madiera, but sherry's not a bad choice either

The wine of Whiskey would obviously be port-finished/wine-finished drams like Green Spot/Dalmore/Bendronach

Is the 80 proof Wild Turkey any good?

>>14992334
Yeah im a bit blasted and i mixed them up
>>14992389
Nah. 101 or bust. I get the feeling this stuff is going way up in price soon. Seems like a fad.

>>14992389
not really. it's absolutely worth shelling the extra couple of bucks for the 101

>>14986707
thanks I'll try making sours with it. didn't have the ingredients for a sour so I tried an old fashion. it was vile.

I'm half tempted to toss the fucking bottle, and that's saying alot since I managed to work my way through Kikori and winchester...

>>14971920
Jefferson's Ocean is pretty nice. About 90USD a bottle, though.

>>14989315
>me
>new to whisky
>stored 3 cask-strength bottles (2 springbank, one uigaedail) on their side for 2 months.

How will I know if the cork tainted them, or if it's just part of the taste?

>>14992190
Killer tradition

>>14977180
It's not perfect but somebody had to finally do it

>>14993133
believe me its like a layer of the stalest water youve ever tasted. pray you may get lucky, but the taste is noticeablely cork like. id say definitely go into them like nothing is wrong. chew and swallow them normally the first time and youll know. after letting it breath for 30 mins to an hour or so adding a bit of water its still distinctively nasty sour ass swill, then you prolly need to dump it or gift it to someone who will appreciate the gesture without mentioning the fouled spirit.

>>14993650
good job, now add some meme bottles like johnny walker jack daniels and whistlepig on the goofus side

>>14994225
laphroaig, monkey shoulder, OGD114 for gallant (i'm sure this will be a heated debate)

change the shape of the glasses, goofus has a short wide tumbler with an ice sphere and gallant has the humble glencairn

>>14994225
Talisker on the Goofus side.
>>14994259
>Monkey Shoulder
Ahahahaha no.

Goofus side: Talisker 10, Johnny Walker Blue, Jack Daniels, Maker's Mark
Gallant side: Springbank 10 or Longrow, Laphroaig 10 or Ardbeg 10, Old Grand-Dad 114, Wild Turkey 101

>>14993857
do you think 2 months was long enough to foul my spirits?

>>14984702
Australia.
And this is through Australian online stores.

Foreign sites all use the same courier service they use for everything else, get quoted a $40-$60 delivery fee, think Australia sure is far, and then quote it on their site without blinking. Plus when you consider that our prices include substantial tax ($21 for 700ml 40%abv + 10% tax, inclusive of alcohol tax) base prices actually need to be fiercely competitive.
The result is you never by alcohol from a non-Australian site. Literally no exceptions.

>>14970639
>it has a fucking triskel
take my fukken money!

>>14992161
I can't imagine being so insecure that I worry about the stem on my whiskeyglass possibly making me look gay.
Your life must be a fucking ordeal if you worry about shit like this.

>>14994259
What's Monkey Shoulder like? It's one of the few whiskys I can actually get in my town so I suppose I will be getting a bottle sooner or later.

>>14996634
Monkey Shoulder is very tropical imo, lots of banana and a bit of pineapple
I'm personally not a fan, but I see why lots of people like it

>>14996634
>What's Monkey Shoulder like?
It tastes like fucking nothing.

>>14996660
It's the Scotch equivalent of Bud Light.

>>14996634
It's a blend of Kininvie, Glenfiddich, and Balvenie.
Glenfiddich is timid. Balvenie is very timid. Kininvie is only available in a 23 year old variety here, but a review of their NAS claims it is "Extremely timid and lightweight."

It's nice I guess, but expect zero intensity.

Just been on some Redbreast 12, Dalmore 12 and a 1980s bottling Jamesons in a whisky night with my mates.

>>14995737
maybe, maybe not. I'd say if they were opened before being stored then I'd think maybe not, but you will only know when you open them. Reselling them on secondary markets is also a possibility if they are unopened.

>>14994810
>Bourbon not on the Goofus side.
Imagine being this deluded. KYS.

>>14975569
>For me it's Lagavulin 16.
>And no, I don't watch Parks and Rec
What does the one have to do with the other?

>>14977222
>don't dilute your Whiskey
>drinks blends
Opinion discarded

I used to like talisker but I've gone right off scotch always tastes harsh and gross. think I used to drink the 10y, might have been 15 idk

>>14998467
But anon, 6 PM is Truly Men's Hour!

>>14998453
Scotch Man drink scotch because he Stotch Man

Alcoholic snobs are the worst people.

They literally all taste the same. Sophisticated, expensive autism is still autism.

>>14999028
Wait 'til you see watch snobs.

Just tried Glenfarclas 15. Good stuff. Makes a nice change from the ~61% Aberlour I've been drinking.

>>15000304
ah yes, yes, I, too, love to drink leather

>>14970834
I stay away from anything that's been aged in sherry casks desu. No matter how good the reviews, I always end up hating them.

>>15001227
>I always end up hating them.
Even A'bunadh?

>>15001266
Never tried that one. If I had a drinking buddy I would trade sips but I don't feel like buying a whole bottle of something I probably will not enjoy as much as advertised.

for me

OGD Bonded > WT 101

Anyone like Irish? One of my favourite bottles of all time is Writers Tears Double Oaked. Subtle cocoa flavors with honey and a light floral hint. Fantastic stuff.

love making old fashioneds with this, how do i into drinking it neat?

>>15001551
Pour it into a glass and sip.

>>15001551
tiny sips
I personally find it very easy to drink straight, but it's rye so it's gonna be spicy and less sweet than bourbon

>>14999081
>appreciate precision instruments made by hand
>also appreciate the rugged dependability of a casio g-shock
>really only shit on generic watches churned out in China with fashion brands printed on them for no reason

watch snobs are alright.

>>15001551
Get some Glencairn glasses and just put it up to like 1/8 of the glass, you’ll be able to get a full sniff for your whiskey and enjoy it in small sips.

Managed to snag some Knob Creek Single Barrel Rye and Buffalo Trace the other night, really looking forward to trying the former though I’m still amazed that Buffalo Trace is still only like $23.

Wish Wild Turkey would bring this back into market.
Picked up a bottle when I was in Japan.
I'd choose this over any overhyped BT bottle I've had so far.

Is it okay to add ice cubes to my whisky or I'm doing it wrong? Is it okay to mix cheap whiskies with Coca Cola? Are the Johnnie Walkers good or they're just a meme? Help me out bros, I'm just getting into whisky.

>>15001753
>Is it okay to add ice cubes to my whisky or I'm doing it wrong?
Do what you want, but people here will call you a fag.
>Is it okay to mix cheap whiskies with Coca Cola?
Yes, but people here will call you a fag for doing mixers.
>Are the Johnnie Walkers good or they're just a meme?
I rather like JW Black, though I definitely have much more expensive and refined whiskey. Cheapest = worst, but cheap != bad.
>Help me out bros, I'm just getting into whisky.
Welcome. Get ready for people judging your ever taste.

>>15001753
do what you want, but I personally find cold whiskey a lot less pleasant and the alcohol a lot more pronounced. You're better off adding water, which will change the aromas and flavors, often for the better
It's perfectly fine to mix cheap bourbon with coke. You should learn how to make an old fashioned/whiskey sour though, whiskey+coke is more about masking the taste for novice drinkers
the johnnie walkers are universally not worth it besides the green label, and even then you're better off buying a single malt in the same prince range

the best advice I can give you as a novice is drink slower

>>14997356
>opened before being stored then I'd think maybe not
They were closed. Why would opening prior have a 'defensive' effect against fouling? I'd sell them, but i don't think they'd move; easily found in any liquor store, middle-upper end.

>>15001753
It’s up to you, with some whiskey it can actually bring out more flavor but I tend to just enjoy mine neat.

>>15001753
the pseuds will tell you anything besides neat is heresy
just do what the fuck you want

>>15001363
If you end up tasting it at any point and not liking it then you know for sure you just have shit taste.

>>15001415
Based and high ryepilled.

>>15001608
>I’m still amazed that Buffalo Trace is still only like $23.
I got it for $21 and found it appropriately priced. It's boring and not particularly flavorful.

>>15001753
>Is it okay to add ice cubes to my whisky
This will reduce flavor intensity in two ways:
- Literal dilution
- Flavors are perceived as less intense as temperature goes down
It's not recommended unless you're drinking bad whiskey and you shouldn't do that.
>Is it okay to mix cheap whiskies with Coca Cola?
Yeah, get a cheap-ass handle of Evan Williams black label for that. It's good straight, too, though. You can chug it straight out of the bottle and it doesn't burn like you'd expect.
Decent way for a college kid to get drunk. I can't say I disapprove.
>Are the Johnnie Walkers good or they're just a meme?
Green is decent, fairly affordable (especially at Costco) and somewhat interesting. The rest are pretty fucking boring and not particularly flavorful.

For me.

>>14977721
Makers for me tastes pretty good but the finish drops off real fucking fast

>>14976934
>soulless. Same with Wild Turkey.
>Larceny or even Bulleit make for better low-cost intro bourbons

>>14984418
Had both, take Craigellachie cause I can get a litre for cheaper than a 750 of Laddie. Literally any other bottling from Bruichladdich is better than Craigellachie 13 except for classic laddie

>>14970639

Best whiskey I ever had was some that I made myself. I'm not about to say I've tried many whiskeys, especially anything that could be considered incredibly expensive, but I fancy myself as something of an alchemist, and I take my craft seriously. My shine came out incredibly smooth, and I made flavored batches for my paintball buddies who drank and did drugs all the time, and they remarked that it was damn fine stuff, and I believe them to be somewhat adept regarding the topic of decent whiskey.

>>15002358
Congratulations on your bathtub liqueur.

>>15002358
an "alchemist" lmao look at this goofus

Christmas is coming up, and I want to find a nice whiskey for my dad this season. I know he enjoys bourbon, specifically Blantons. Since I can't seem to find Blantons anywhere, what would be some good options for him? Looking to spend a total of $150 USD.
I would buy him something I think he'll like but I'm turning 21 this December, so I haven't a clue as to what is a good whiskey.

>>15002475
What state do you live in?

>>15002519
Indiana.

>>15002524
Not too far from KY. Shouldn't be too hard to find him a bottle of meme whiskey. Look up some big stores in your area and patrol their social media to see if they post their Buffalo Trace drops. If you find one that does, just wait until they post about it. If it doesn't have to be bourbon, my recommendation is a nice bottle of some Redbreast 15.

>>15002475
call your dad a memey fuck and gift him Noah's Mill instead

>>15001905
if you had opened them and new air had gotten into the bottle it may have released enough alcohol on the surface to make it less harsh for the cork(best case scenario). depends on your area for reselling. you'll have to eat some of the cost to get them to sell 2nd hand though. price the lot $20 lower than what you paid and you'll get some sucker, especially with the prices continuing to climb. maybe offer them to a local bar.

>>15002110
Every scotch that I've tasted that has been aged in sherry casks has that sickly sweet and sour taste of spoilt fruit that bites the tongue. I just hate that sensation. I like earthy peaty tastes and love honey, vanilla type sweetness. Floral notes are okay but whenever it gets too fruity I'm not comfy anymore. I just don't like it, if that's shit taste, then I have shit taste.

>>14986192
the standard stuff is just rebottled Jack, nothing to write home about.

>>14996664
It's half-decent, I keep a bottle around if I ever want a scotch and soda just because I don't like to keep anything in my bar that I couldn't drink straight.

>>15002475
Liquorstore fag here, honestly don't waste your time. We've gotten like 5x less allocated bourbon since the pandemic started and the demand for rare whiskies in December is so high that most stores are probably just going to save their rare/expensive stuff for regular customers, most stores have begun doing that anyways. Fucking bourbonfags will be lined up at opening if they even suspect the store has gotten a bottle of Blanton's in, shit's ridiculous and not worth the time. If any stores near you do a Maker's Mark Store Pick, I'd recommend getting that, it's a very unique gift that's usually accessible and won't break your wallet, and depending on the barrel combo it has the potential to be better than Blanton's.

Drinking pic related today/tonight, it's pretty nice, better than expected. Can't beat the price. They have a great apple brandy too and their other whiskies are also very nice. Not sure where else to find it besides locally though (I'm a St. Louis Fag). Glad I found this, we have more breweries than I can count here but not too many distilleries here, and this one has pretty good stuff and their prices are great now, I'm hoping they stay low but I'm sure they'll go up once they are more well known.

>>14970639
>Kilchoman
Sanaig is pretty good. Too bad I finished the bottle last month

>>15004539
fellow StL area fag, where did you pick that and how much was it? MGP? tasting notes?

>>15002191
Decent rye, I like this one as a mixer.

>>15002475
I’m partial to Wild Turkey Rare Breed Bourbon and Rye

>>15005575
I really liked Machir Bay (and wasn't very impressed by Sanaig). But I don't know about paying $100 for a 3-5 year old scotch.

>>15001753
Ice has a lot of problems.
Firstly it dilutes the whisky. Even if you think that's a good thing it's super uncontrolled. Better to use whisky rocks or chill the whisky itself, combined with adding a controlled amount of water.
Secondly it cools the whisky, which kills aroma, which lessens taste.

You can mix any whisky with coke. Even top shelf whisky. The issue is you're paying big money for nice tasting whisky and then you are masking 90% of that flavor with coke, which is a waste of your money. You're not even getting a big flavor improvement moving from middle shelf to top shelf, 1/10th of that improvement is pretty imperceptible. But it will be better than shit whisky and coke.

Johnnie walker has some good products and some good value. IMO:
Red: to bad to be considered
Black / Double Black: the cheapest sip worth whisky you can buy, $10 cheaper than a 10 year old single malt, buy it if you're poor.
Green: More expensive than a 10 year old single malt and less flavorful, wouldn't bother.
Blue: Fantastic whisky. But pricey. You may be able to do a lot better for like $50 less but I haven't explored much that price bracket. IMO price to performance for whisky in general is best at around Ardbeg 10 pricing and I generally only explore 25% above and below that (Blue is 150% above).

Is Longrow good if I like peat?

Mixing OGD114 with diet coke for an election night bender and none of you can stop me.

>>15005609
I got it at the Loughborough Schnucks. I'm not 100% positive but I'm pretty sure it's their own juice. sweet & spicy with light herbal notes(horehound). I got it for 22$ I really like it, I'm getting their bourbon or apple brandy next, and it's all around the same price

>>14996648
>>14996660
>>14996711
Thanks for replies.
Sounds like I wouldn't be a fan of that one, so I'll spend my money on something else.

>>15006531
It's my favorite of the heavily peated Scotches.

>>15006593
nice. i might give it a shot if the dirt cheap has it.