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olivool, since it's in nearly everything i cook and so much of it is terrible quality

>>14952479
usually cheese

>>14952479
Filet Mignon

idk I just really like it. I’m a fan of tenderloin

>>14952479
Coffee, I guess.

Coffee
Brioche
Parmegiano and eggs
Wine

>>14952479
Good sourdough big italian bread not wonder bread bullshit (for the wagecucks, your day is instantly 10x better if you have a salami etc real sandwich on something crunchy and crusty rather than a depressing turkey and spirt of mustard on soggy bread)

scallies are just about the perfect food for me. because they're expensive as horsecocks i rarely eat them, but when i do i pay the top dollar to buy them at the fish market in the shell. fuck it's so worth it.

i've been able to make even the frozen bag scallops fry up crispy and be edible, but that's not even similar to a truly fresh scallop

>>14952479
Foie gras

>>14952479
Camembert de Normandie.

>>14953776
Also cacao beans

>>14952479
Ill spend the extra money for prime beef. I also buy sea scallops a few times a year

>>14952479
Shellfish.

Alcohol
Cheese
Condiments like miso/chillies/vinegars/etc
Olive oil/butter
Coffee
Cured meat occasionally
Bread, rice
Spices

>>14952479
>What are some foods/ingredients you're willing to splurge/spend a lot of money on?
All of them. I may not be rich in most areas of my life, but I will damn well enjoy my food.

Totally agree with Parmigiano Reggiano, Grana Padano is nice too but Parmigiano is just superior.
Just avoid the fucking fake "parmesan" that the amerimutts invented, pure cancer.

>>14953815
Its made to sprinkle over poverty tier spaghetti and ragu canned sauce, its like 30% cellulose by weight. It was never meant to be good.

>>14953776
would bang

>>14952479
Eggs, milk, meat. I grew up with chickens and like the illusion of humaneness that “free-range, grass-fed” gives me. I’ll always get straight up GMO rice, beans, and produce though.

>>14954004
> ragu`
> poverty food

>>14954060
It is a poverty tier brand of canned sauces in America.

I don’t even know what good cheese is outside of parm reg, feta, and manchego.

I have a panic attack in the cheese section so I leave and buy “Italian cheese” from the plastic section instead.

>>14953776
looks skeezy, why is she dressed like a slav? why would I eat something with a slav on it?

>>14952479
is it even that expensive? the stuff goes so far I don't think buying blocks of it is much more expensive than the powder

>>14952479
Cheese
Alcohol
Good cuts of meat, I suck it up and go to a butcher
Ingredients I only use rarely

>>14954185
It costs almost twice as much as the grated stuff.
$15 for 16 oz grated
$28 for 1 lb of parmigiano-reggiano

>>14954207
walmart near me

>>14954229
Those are both the same thing doofus

>>14954229
If it says parmesan, it's not parmigiano

>>14954253
>>14954256
>it's not cheese unless it comes from this specific region of italy
get the fuck over yourselves

>>14954264
> talking about parmigiano reggiano
> It doesn't matter if it is actually not parmiggiano reggiano!!!!!

Are you retarded ?

>>14954264
It’s not {Cheese of X Standard} unless it’s {Cheese of X Standard}...seems logical enough.

I think if you actually look, no other region puts in as stringent of requirements for their cheese, so you aren’t merely paying for a name, you’re paying for a process first and foremost.

>>14954278
now you're being intellectually dishonest
>>14954281
you're talking out of your ass. they got the government to protect the name. of course the stuff that isn't imported has the name changed

>>14954302
The govt protects the name, but they also impose standards (most restrictive cheese standard on earth).

So you pay a percentage for name, but it’s mostly for the exacting standards, which is also why it’s so highly prized (no good substitute).

>>14954334
there are good substitutes they just don't come from that particular region of italy

>>14954256
this shit costs half what you claimed it did

>>14954360
Name them

Haha yurotards are seething we can get better parmesan in the usa for $3 a pound or less

boars head
name brand worcestershire
good apple juice

>>14954588
Pre-grated cheese? GTFO

>>14954551
it is called parmesean

Cheese for sure. Kroger here in ohioland now has a little cheese section in the deli section that has a pretty good selection of cheese. The problem is that you have to come on the first few days its cut or it ends up pretty nasty. But I've been able to try a lot of nice cheese I wouldn't have otherwise. Also real fresh mozz is one of my most beloved comfort foods that I will spend basically the maximum on the quality/price curve.

That's honestly it. Being in flyover land means splurging on fish is extremely retarded and I don't eat much in the way of red meat. Some organic produce is worth it but honestly the cheapest stuff is fine as long as it is in season.

>>14954588
lmao ameripoors

>>14952479
Macadamias

>>14954612
Im sorry, life must be hard for you if the extra ten cents is too much

>>14952479
Bread and patisserie, cheese, steaks, olive oil because I don't eat these things often and when I do eat them I eat them in a very simple manner so they have to be good on there own. But in some cases money doesn't = quality, I know a cheap arab bakery that is one of only three places that does a good baguette, not the best but up there.

any animal product because factory farmed shit tastes bad

>>14954695
He said better

>>14954302
>now you're being intellectually dishonest
Are you clinically retarded? The op is talking about parmigiano reggiano prices and you come up with parmesan, you absolute mongoloid

>>14954937
no one used the word better in this whole comment chain

>>14954945
it's the same fucking thing dipshit. just because it isn't made in a specific region of the world doesn't mean you can't make the same product. we have provolone in the US too but brits can't get it because they don't export it to the UK and it's illegal for them to make their own. calling me stupid doesn't make you correct

>>14954970
>it's the same fucking thing dipshit
It's not you tastelet cretin, and I had both

>>14954980
it's the english spelling of the italian word. it can be the genuine article even if it has that name. try informing yourself

>>14954960
I meant good

>>14954981
It's the word for describing a cheese "like" parmigiano. It's not a rebrand you idiot

>>14954995
don't make me quote the dictionary to you. stop calling me stupid. go look it up in merriam webster.

>>14954981
It’s not made with the same type of milk, it’s not aged, it doesn’t use the same bacteria, the real stuff is produced in wheels, the list goes on and in...

Not the same thing

>>14955006
It's a name to indicate a parmigiano like cheese
But as opposed to real parmigiano it's not guaranteed anything on the production process and the ingredients

They used parmesan because the parmigiano name is protected
That's why you have "nutella" and "hazelnuts and chocolate spreadable cream"

The difference between generic parmesan and the real shit it's obviously even for a dead toungue like you

I've got pasta and a giant block of parmesan, any way I can make myself a decent white sauce? I've also got bacon, if that makes any sort of difference

>>14955025
nothing about that requires it to come from the parma
>>14955028
the name indicates it can't be called the name which is a protected designation since it's not imported from across the fucking atlantic ocean. it doesn't mean anything else.

>>14955034
there are lots of ways to make sauce with it, but the most basic alfredo sauce is just butter and cheese

>>14952479
>splurge
Like jizz?

>>14955051
My God you are retarded.

The "disciplinare DOP" for parmigiano reggiano regulate the origin but **also the process and the characteristic** of the cheese

The parmesan cheese you have, they wouldn't pass the regulations eve if they were made in Parma.

This is the pdf, if you happen to know italian https://www.parmigianoreggiano.com/static/118c3adbbfba7f61f536bb418a820af4/c40fd4e7eff4f555239d98c418a9f918.pdf

You fucking retard

>>14955051
Cool, so just butter and grated cheese then. Would adding milk help or would I be fucking with an already good thing

>>14955097
it's impossible to make cheese the same way outside of a specific region of a specific country. all other cheese not made within those bounds certainly could not be made using a same process

>>14955141
Because parmesan not having a strict regulations, it's made with cheaper process which results in different taste and characteristics

>>14955106
no don't add milk, it will separate. if you want to involve milk learn about a bechamel. if you were adding cheese you would add it after making a bechamel. that is called a mornay sauce.
>>14955151
no, like I said earlier it's the english way of spelling it. it obviously isn't a technical designation and it is not codified in law. of course it can refer to cheeses that are not made to the exacting standards of whomever lobbied the european regulators, but at the end of the day it might as well be a brand name.

>>14955165
>it’s the English way of spelling it

Ok? The actual process and ingredients are way different

>it’s not made to the same specs

Yeah...so it literally tastes different...

You’re a retard

>>14955165
>english way of spelling it.
Again, it's not.
It's a name used that resemble "parmigiano" to indicate a "parmigiano-like" kind of cheese, for informing the customer.

It's not a mere translation, since "parmigiano reggiano" Is a DOP and It doesn't mean "from Parma" anymore.
You say like it's not al to translate a proper name like "nutella", which is not.

Not having the regulation of italy make it possible, and therefore sure, they use different and cheaper process in order to cut costs.

They are different products, end of the story. If you keep insisting on it you are clinically retarded

>>14954588
Love me Winco

>>14955151
>>14955195
since I'm tired of this shit and you're such a genius, I'm just going to quote the dictionary and wikipedia at you. language has nuance. autists don't understand nuance, and I get that. it's an english word, borrowed from french, to refer to an italian word.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parmigiano-Reggiano#Generic_%22Parmesan%22_cheese
>Within the European Union, the term Parmesan may only be used, by law, to refer to Parmigiano-Reggiano itself, which must be made in a restricted geographic area, using stringently defined methods. In many areas outside Europe, the name "Parmesan" has become genericized, and may denote any of a number of hard Italian-style grating cheeses,[25][26] often commercialized under names intended to evoke the original, such as Parmesan, Parmigiana, Parmesana, Parmabon, Real Parma, Parmezan, or Parmezano.[27] After the European ruling that "parmesan" could not be used as a generic name, Kraft renamed its grated cheese "Pamesello" in Europe.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Parmesan
>History and Etymology for Parmesan

>short for Parmesan cheese; Parmesan "of the city of Parma," borrowed from Middle French parmisan, probably borrowed from a western Upper Italian variant of Tuscan parmigiano, from Parma "Parma" + -igiano, adjective suffix of appurtenance, from Vulgar Latin *-ēs- (going back to Latin -ensis, adjective suffix of place) + Latin -iānus -ian entry 2

>>14955201
>>Within the European Union
I wasn't talking about europe

>>History and Etymology for Parmesan
The etymology means jack shit, words evolve over time .

"Parmigiano" is first a cheese and then "from Parma". It's so alien using it that italian use "da Parma" instead of "Parmigiano" to indicate something from Parma

>>14955247
lol okay whatever you win just quit here's a (you)

>>14952479
everything
spending money to be well fed is worth it

>>14955247
italy is such a piece of shit country with a crumbling economy that they have to resort to this dumb protectionism bullshit and even then they're completely fucked. I would not want to be an italian retiree

>>14955273
>>>/pol//

>>14955201
In the EU it’s defined differently, you are using parmigiano to define itself, Americans do not have that protection

Instant ramen, ironically.

>>14955290
this is more of a /biz/ thing. I don't give a shit about politics. the eurozone is a mess though and I don't believe in their draconian PDO bullshit surrounding cheese. there's nothing that requires a product to be produced within a certain region, but they have somehow convinced the EU to write laws around it. this isn't even trademarks.
>>14955297
they all brag about it if they're imported. you'd have to be an idiot to buy domestic shit thinking it's imported. I'm not talking about protecting consumers. cheesemakers don't give a shit about consumers when they're lobbying the government to write laws about what is and isn't allowed to be called something based upon which country it was produced in

>>14953798
Are you me?

>>14955306
>this is more of a /biz/ thing
It's not about crypto, so I don't know why do you think it belong there.

>the eurozone is a mess though and I don't believe in their draconian PDO bullshit surrounding cheese

You don't believe in numbers, color me surprised

>there's nothing that requires a product to be produced within a certain region, but they have somehow convinced the EU to write laws around it. this isn't even trademarks.

> I don't want to know how and where products are made. I like to suck industries cock down my throat and thank them

You and your country are a joke, seriously

>>14955306
americans are such culturelets

Cheese of course. One of the very few foods where price demanded by age translates into quality, unlike trash like wine.

>>14955529
Oh shit, thats the french cheese where the rind is formed by cheese mites!. I'm curious. I would try the rind because of the extra protein for dem gainz.

>>14952479

Anyway... in my case:
- Gouda cheese. Give me something at least semi-aged, none of that young shit.
- Bread. Love me my spelt bread.
- Beer. I like Belgian ales. Usually around 2x as much as a Heineken here in the Netherlands.
- Salmon

>>14955553
It's alright, not too flavorful, but just the right toughness. Also banned in murrika AFAIK