/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>14924565
That's perfect. It's grilled and has cheese. Not everyone wants liquid fat pissing out if their sandwich. Oozing liquid pus is American tier garbage.

>>14924565
Fuck you Americans you think your shit is any better fuck you

>>14924582
washed-up-chef apologist

>>14924582
>>14924586
Pathetic cope

>>14924582
This. Real cheese isn't supposed to melt the way that fake American cheese shit does

is that gordon ramsey, the biggest joke the cooking world has ever seen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlTCkNkfmRY
as always, chef john has to show you how it's done

>>14924611

You can still use something like cheddar to melt if you want to use a real cheese. He used fucking manchego which is usually as hard as parmesan.

>>14924565
Could you imagine how he would react if he were served this at a restaurant?

>>14924565
It's RAW

>>14924591
I've never been a chef. How could I be a washed up one?

>>14924565
grim

>>14924619
>Shity wonderbread.

Ah yes. But he's cooking for Americans.

>>14924582
>>14924586
>>14924611
>bongs will go as far as to defend THIS

>>14924680
When will you people begin to understand that a cheese sandwich CAN be grilled without the cheese becoming a fluid? Some cheese is best when it's warm, but not running all over the place.

If you want melted, then fine. Nobody's stopping you. But it's not the only way to make a nice sandwich.

>>14924565
that's some good fucking cunny

>>14924697
But he says it has melted when it clearly hasn't. That's the point of the OP, and therefore this entire thread.

>>14924565
Needs proper American Cheese

>>14924738
U need proper dick cheese

>>14924790
I’m circumcised

>>14924793
lmao nigga used my egg edit from yeseterday haha

>>14924793
Thats why i said u need some

>>14924726
Well. It's clearly not melted. If he said that, (I assume there's a video) then he lied.

>>14924697
>Some cheese is best when it's warm, but not running all over the place.
That's typically how I like mine actually but I don't think his even got to that point where it was warm because of how quickly it burned. It was literally only in the pan for 60 seconds before he took it out and started slicing it up, and it was a pretty thick sandwich. It can be done properly like that but he just messed up and his pan was too hot but didn't feel like doing it again I suppose.

It was funny too because after he took the sandwich out and cut it he was like "it's still so very hot" which felt ironic.

>>14924919
This is all TV nonsense then. They should have re-shot the presentation, with him achieving his goal. I doubt even the stupidest shitposter here actually believes that he is incapable of making a grilled cheese sandwich.

>>14924667
that's how you make a grilled cheese
anything else is faggot nonsense

>>14924582
Quit staying up all night drunk and shitposting on /ck/ Gordon

>>14925115
We saw him fuck it up in an edited video. They could have reshot it so he didn't fuck it up, but they didn't. From what I've observed, I can infer he can't make a grilled cheese.

>>14924619
based

>>14925224
exactly, and he's making tons of dough from posting this low quality videos. He's either lazy or he's given up because he's already swimming in money or he legit cant make a grilled cheese

>>14925224
Maybe he did this just so that all the food autists around the world would sperg out as you are all doing now.

Goddammit I have to go searching for this video now.

>>14925246
yes he's really owning all us 4chan fags that must be it

>>14924582
>the perfect grilled cheese has kimchi in it

Ok. I watched the video. He pan was too fucking hot. His bread was too thick for the time he gave the sandwich to cook. The cheese was not melted.

And he did a sad and shitty job.

>>14925172
wrong, it does have to be nice white bread but it absolutely does not need to be shitty american processed white bread, it can be like a milk bread or brioche and be wonderful

>>14925274
Well his sandwich is living in your head right now, isn't it?

>>14924586
Wisconsin wipes the floor with your shitty eurocheese anytime

Cheese
Nice and melted

>>14924565
>>14924582
>>14924586
>>14924611
>>14924697
>>14925275
THIS IS A MELT. THIS IS A MELT THREAD.
A grilled cheese consists of only these following items. Cheese. Bread with spread (usually butter). This entire board consist of "melts". Almost every "grilled cheese" sandwich i see on here has other items added to it. Let me start out by saying I have nothing against melts, I just hate their association with sandwiches that are not grilled cheeses. Adding cheese to your tuna sandwich? It's called a Tuna melt. Totally different. Want to add bacon and some pretentious bread crumbs with spinach? I don't know what the hell you'd call that but it's not a grilled cheese. I would be more than willing to wager I've eaten more grilled cheeses in my 41 years than any of you had in your entire lives. I have one almost everyday and sometimes more than just one sandwich. Want to personalize your grilled cheese? Use a mix of different cheeses or use sourdough or french bread. I'm not a religious man nor am I anything close to a culinary expert. But as a bland white mid-western male I am honestly the most passionate person when it comes to grilled cheese and mac & cheese. All of you foodies stay the hell away from our grilled cheeses and stop associating your sandwich melts with them. Yet again, it is utter blasphemy and it rocks me to the core of my pale being. Shit, I stopped lurking after 3 years and made this post for the sole purpose of posting this. I've seen post after post of peoples "grilled cheeses" all over /ck/ and it's been driving me insane. The moment i saw this thread this morning I finally snapped. Hell, I may even start my own thread just because I know this one exists now.

You god damn heretics. Respect the grilled cheese and stop changing it into whatever you like and love it for it what it is. Or make your damn melt sandwich and call it for what it is. A melt.

>>14924582
seething europoor fuck. Hey do you use decapitated heads as soccer balls over there?

>>14926897
wow, didn't read but my instincts tell me I should comment something regarding autism. However, I realised that while you took the time to write all that, at the same time I am taking the time to read it and write this response, so who am I to judge you.

>>14925558
God knows this video has far more views than it deserves

>>14926897
I call it "toasted cheese" or a "cheese toastie", how does that make you feel?

>>14926986
There's a reason why no one wants the brits in their country.

>>14926897
based and informative autism rant

>>14926897
https://www.reddit.com/r/grilledcheese/comments/2or1p3/you_people_make_me_sick/

>>14924582
go away gordon

>band rehearsal starts
NOW WE ALL LOVE GRILLED CHEESE
THERE'S NOTHING LIKE THIS GRILLED CHEESE
>holds up two blocks of cheese that have never been used for grilled cheese before
BEAUTIFUL
>taps knife on board
THIS IS A DREAM COME TRUE
>puts knife away and taps different knife
BIG LONG SLICES
>cuts off the rind
LITERALLY CUT OFF
>exasperated breath
... THE RIND
>cuts cheese further
NICE LONG LUSCIOUS BRICKS OF CHEESE
MAKE SURE THE BREAD IS NOT TOO THIN
>cuts half the loaf off
BIT OF BUTTAH
>butters
SALT
>salts bread
>layers cheese on bread
TAILOR MAKE IT
>cuts cheese again
NOW THE SECRET IS...
>pulls out bowl of already made kimchi out of nowhere
HOMEMADE KIMCHI
>starts dumping it all over
BREATHTAKING
>camera pans to a fire
TOUCH OF OLIVE OIL
>dumps oil in pan
>mumbles beautiful
NOW PUSH THAT DOWN
>smashes grilled cheese down in pan
ON IN SHE GOES
PUT SOME WEIGHT ON THERE
>buttered bread sticks to spatula
>struggles to get it off
>clinks the spatula against the cast iron as punishment
GOOD
>smoke shooting out of pan
TURN IT OVER
>cheese hasnt melted
PUSH THAT DOWN
>squeezes grilled cheese down with rag
NICE AND CRISPY
>puts it back in
>takes it out
PUSH IT DOWN
>desperate to make cheese melt
HELPS CHEESE NICE AND MELTED
>puts pan back in
>elevates the flavor
>takes pan out
THAT BEAUTIFUL... GRILLED CHEESE
>burnt bread
>cheese still hasn't melted
BEAUTIFUL
>back in the kitchen
THE CHEESE HAS MELTED
>cheese can't be seen on screen
>taps knife against board
AND THIS...
>tries to cut the sandwich
CRISPY
>struggles to cut through the sandwich
>involves both his hands
>reveals cross section
BEAUTIFUL
>cheese hasn't melted at all
OH MY GOODNESS ME
>taps knife again
>slices grilled cheese halves into further halves desperate to find some evidence of melted cheese
OH MY GOD
>blows
>visibly struggles to take a bite
>chews
>shakes his head with contempt
OH MY GOD THAT IS INCREDIBLE
>struggles on another bite
WOW
SO GOOD
>ramsay buys a house in tasmania
>guitar solo

>>14926897
you're a melt m8 lolololol

>>14924565
>this man can do anything and people will defend it

>>14927934
i really hate how he does the "I'm so passionate about cooking" voice whilst he makes something that Weatherspoon's wouldn't even serve

>>14926897
How do you feel about a French toast with cheese?

That's not the worst I've seen.
My brother-in-law puts butter after, AFTER he grills the sandwich.
WTF he prefers to eat colour and flavor lacking piece of dried bread over beautiful, crispy, mouthwatering grilled cheese.

Gordon is a gay slut, I used to wait tables for him in London back in the 90s. At the end of every service he'd take me to the basement where we kept our produce. He would pull his trousers down and stare me in the eyes. "MY ARSE ISN'T GOING TO FUCK ITSELF IS IT BIG BOY?!?!" I would just always reply with "No Gordon." I would then pull out my courgette and olive oil and begin penetrating his donut hole. After he came he'd scream at me "CLEAN THE FUCKING STATION YOU STUPID IDIOT!" "Yes Gordon" I would say as I cleaned his bum bum. He'd walk out of the restaurant and enter a car driven by Marco Pierre White. One time I heard Marco say to Gordon "I doubt it's as sore as when I used to humiliate you in front of the boys at Harvey's" I saw Gordon cry after he said that.

>>14926897
>melt
never heard of it lol. what a dumb name for a sandwich, especially considering your argument, grilled = melted, melt = grilled. control your autism

>>14924582
Based

>>14924640
he called Ramsey a wash up and you an apologist

>>14924582

I've also explained several times already to the cooklets on this board that the cheese in the video IS IN FACT MELTED! It's just that the variety G uses here has a certain kind of cheese skin on the outside, that prevents the inside from flowing out. If you dug your teeth in, it would taste like gooey heaven - believe me. As for the bread... well that's a bit unlucky, but it's not as bad in reality. The camera settings his crew uses are partly to blame.... contrast and saturation are turned up far too high - you can easily prove this to yourself if you compare it with the unnatural color the pan has. All a matter of contrast.

>>14929526
It was only in the pan for one minute. Not even exaggerating. Bread and cheese that thick won't be fully warmed through that quickly.

>>14924619
Honestly this changed my life when I first saw it.

>>14926897
Sounds like you're the melt lol

>>14924582
>>14924586
why are europoors so obsessed with America? what is the explanation for this phenomenon?

>>14926897
>THIS IS A MELT. THIS IS A MELT THREAD.
>A grilled cheese consists of only these following items. Cheese. Bread with spread (usually butter). This entire board consist of "melts". Almost every "grilled cheese" sandwich i see on here has other items added to it. Let me start out by saying I have nothing against melts, I just hate their association with sandwiches that are not grilled cheeses. Adding cheese to your tuna sandwich? It's called a Tuna melt. Totally different. Want to add bacon and some pretentious bread crumbs with spinach? I don't know what the hell you'd call that but it's not a grilled cheese. I would be more than willing to wager I've eaten more grilled cheeses in my 41 years than any of you had in your entire lives. I have one almost everyday and sometimes more than just one sandwich. Want to personalize your grilled cheese? Use a mix of different cheeses or use sourdough or french bread. I'm not a religious man nor am I anything close to a culinary expert. But as a bland white mid-western male I am honestly the most passionate person when it comes to grilled cheese and mac & cheese. All of you foodies stay the hell away from our grilled cheeses and stop associating your sandwich melts with them. Yet again, it is utter blasphemy and it rocks me to the core of my pale being. Shit, I stopped lurking after 3 years and made this post for the sole purpose of posting this. I've seen post after post of peoples "grilled cheeses" all over /ck/ and it's been driving me insane. The moment i saw this thread this morning I finally snapped. Hell, I may even start my own thread just because I know this one exists now.
>You god damn heretics. Respect the grilled cheese and stop changing it into whatever you like and love it for it what it is. Or make your damn melt sandwich and call it for what it is. A melt.