/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>14889334
I like Taliskers 10 year, probably my personal favorite.

>I refuse to believe one of the greatest writers of all time said that. Alcohol is BAD.

>>14889359
You're in denial

>>14889334
I really like laphroaig 10, but max 2 glasses if I want my tastebuds to taste anything the next day

this board is called Food and Cooking not Drinking and Alcohol

>>14889431
Alcohol is an edge case.
You're allowed to discuss booze (and tobacco) on the basis of taste, but group therapy over alcohol addiction is off topic.

>>14889431
You can pair foods with whisky
You can cook with whisky
You can fuck yourself

behold, the child of canadian ingenuity. over 150 years of this country's existance, 50 years of labour camps and blowing up chinese with dynamite have we come up with the finest whiskey in north america

Found this great recipe for a hazelnut cake with a whiskey-caramel icing. The recipe says 2 table spoons of whisky, but I have no idea what whisky would go well with this. I'm guessing Laphroaig quarter cask, which is the only whisky I have available right now, is unsuitable. Or is it?

>>14889431
Ok chud

>>14889334
my favorite whisky is hennesy

Suntory Toki or Crown Royal

sold old TV to a couple /Creolebros/ and picked up some more Rye. let my Glendronach 12 sit for about 90 mins before i finished it while watching Stan Helsing(that prime Diora Baird tho) and man that is the best Scotch I've had thus far. kinda want to find the 15 Revival but its back to being hoarded again I think. The Rittenhouse is nicer in my opinion it reminds me more of Old Grandad 114 and the Bulleit has a dill pickle taste, didnt get any Rye taste, so dissappointed in that regard considering its "95% rye".

>>14889828
you definitely dont want that flavor poking through. use something you would drink but also that has a low abv. Honestly I'd go with like Evan Williams Egg Nog or just regualr old Bailey's/Ryans Cream/cinnamon liqueur

>>14889625
it's a real shame canadian whisky tastes like shit

>>14890227
i think you mean tastes great?

>>14890227
its well known canada makes the best whiskey in the world. you know nothing, you 6 yo child.

I just bought Woodford Reserve Double Oaked and Russell Reserve 10 Year, haven’t tried the latter yet but I really like the former.

I just got Weller Special Reserve and its good

>>14889339
For me, it's Talisker 10

>>14890227
90% of it is for sure. While they have almost no rules in place for what can be called a whisky, it's usually so they can push out the cheapest shittiest drain pour to appeal to the homeless. But every once in a while, you'll get a place that makes some good stuff except they have barely the budget behind them to bottle and ship within their province, let alone all of Canada or even internationally. No Canadian whisky shipped internationally is good, you need to just go into liquor store, not be a social retard and get free samplings from the local distilleries. They normally have a bunch saved from previous events or just sample bottles for these scenarios

>>14890078
dill pickle is actually a very common rye taste, along with green apple

>>14890952
its clouding my judgement if I want to get something like Templeton, Old Forester or Pikesville, I definitely DONT want the same flavor for 3x the price. I enjoy the thought of a Rye that tastes more like the bread, THATS what I'm really wanting.

>>14889431
Find me the Drinking and Alcohol board and I'll go right there you simpering weak-willed faggot

>>14891105
>tastes like the bread
Where do you live, generally? Around here there's a craft brewery and distillery that uses their beer mash for a line of whiskies.

>>14889334
Old Forester 1910

>>14891162
What do you guys think of their 100 Proof Rye?
I think it makes for a decent mixer.

>>14891172
I think their >$20 products are really good. Their 86 bourbon is my favorite mixer hands down. Makes a killer Boulevardier and Old Fashioned alike.

>>14889334
May be trashy tier but Crown Royal.

>>14891105
>I enjoy the thought of a Rye that tastes more like the bread
Much of the flavor of rye bread comes from the caraway seed they put in. Make sure you're not mistaking for rye what is actually caraway.

>>14889339
vomit

>>14891128
Midwest USA, sounds interesting enough

>>14891662
obviously, but I have gotten some faint rye bread flavor from one of them, very subtle and my memory probably filled in the blanks. Some thing a bit more upfront would be neat.

>>14889334
How do I get into drinking whiskeys?

>>14892532
organically

Newfag here, started drinking whisky recently, being my "first" bottle one a Glenrothes 10y and now that I finished it I wanted to try some irish whisky. The Jameson Black Barrel is going right now for 20€, would it be a good starter or should I buy something cheaper like Tullamore.

>>14889828
>Laphroaig and caramel icing
I don't have a reaction image to appropriately convey my disgust, but please don't do this

>>14892532
There are 3 general routes.
Desperation. You need to get drunk (alcoholism or whatever, I don't judge), and whiskey is what you found in the liquor cabinet.

Typical. You get a whiskey cocktail (7&7, manhattan, whiskey sour), like it, and start trying to more intense straight liquor. You buy a bottle or pour of a not low shelf, not top end whiskey, and find you like it, and start tasting other things.

Introduction. Someone who knows something about whiskey (sometimes that you want to suck up to for business reasons) starts pouring good stuff, and you do your damnedest to keep up and not embarass yourself.

Jack Daniels is a pretty safe entry point. Maybe order a pour of Johnnie Walker Green (Green is very different from Red, Black, or Gold; they are NOT acceptable substitutes). Rittenhouse is pretty good for the style, but it's not for everyone (if you get some and don't care for it straight, either learn to make a manhattan cocktail or soak fruitcakes in it).

Don't be afraid of the big brands; they're big because a lot of people like what they produce; you might too.

Id rather just mix some cheap herioin into a 2L of sparkling water.

>>14892532
Jameson was the first alcohol I ever had and it went from there.

>>14890906
this.

I managed to get my hands on the cask strength Lot40 a few years ago and it was great. good luck finding that in the US or outside of any LCBO areas really

>>14892532
Just buy a bottle and a glass, preferably with a tulip shape, and just pour a dram and drink it slowly. Slowly but surely you'll learn to like it. It takes much shorter than you'd expect.
I recommend starting with laphroaig 10

>>14889334
Scotch Whisky
>Glenrothes Brothers 12
>Lagavulin 16
>Balvenie doublewood
Honestly there are tons of good scotches these are just the ones that come to mind.

Irish Whisky
>Redbreast 12
>Teeling
>Tullamore

American
>Blantons
>Rittenhouse Rye
>Woodford

Next salary I'm going whisky hunting.
>Lagavulin 16
>Highland park 10
>Bunnahabhain Moine
>Balvenie Doublewood 12
>Talisker 10
>Aberlour 12
I can only afford 3 bottles. Help me choose which 3.

bourbon

wild turkey 101
evan williams 1783

everything else is garbage

russian standard vodka is good, too

>>14893541
WT 101 is garbage shit for alcoholics

>>14893534
Doublewood and Lagavulin for sure especially for hunting/being outdoors.

Talisker and Bunnahabhain sound good too, either of those for the third.

I'd skip the HP and Abelour

>>14893556
t. tastelet

>>14889359
Imagine being such a fuckup that you imagine people with their shit together have a problem with alcohol the way you do

>>14893604
Thanks for the input. Btw when I said hunting I meant as in looking for whisky not actually hunting animals....

>>14893534
Avoid:
Highland Park - overpriced garbage
Talisker - extremely overpriced garbage
Balvenie - no flavor
Buy:
Lagavulin
Bunnahabhain
Aberlour

>>14893618
t. alcoholic

>>14893534
For me it's Talisker 10

>>14893886
t. tastelet

>>14893711
>>14893711
Lmao, well I think my picks still stand. Just that Lagavulin is extra good around a campfire. Damp fall day, crackling fire, smell of leaves and trees, in that environment it truly shines.

>>14893856
How is talisker overpriced? It's the cheapest thing on this list, and holds its own alright. Also Balvenie is fuckin great.

>>14893993
t. alcoholic

>>14889334
>Scotch whisky
Yes.
>Irish whiskey
All taste same.
>American whiskey/bourbon
None. Stopped trying cause every single one I tried that was supposed to be good turned out to be some of the vilest shit I ever had the displeasure of tasting (Maker's Mark, Four Roses, Knob Creek, all vile shit).
>World whisky
JAPAN, MY NIKKA.

>>14893953
Why so many people like scotch from sherry casks so much? It's my least favorite kind of scotch. It's too fruity.

>>14893534
Oban 14

>>14894102
Around here Talisker is more expensive than most of that stuff

>>14894488
t. tastelet

>>14889625
so is this acutally good? what should a resident of onterrible buy

>>14894859
sherry is more palatable than peat.

>>14889334
Jack Daniels Sour Mash.

>>14894102
>How is talisker overpriced?
Its high price does not justify its very low quality.

>>14889334
I had a couple of bottles more than 40 years (20 or so bottle aged). An awesome find in my grandpas attic. I also got a decanter in the cleanout and i will say it is a MUST HAVE if you want to appreciate a whiskey of value

>>14895717
Pics?

>>14895718
Sure. Dont judge me for my dirty stovetop. Roommates

>>14889339
Have you tried literally any other Talisker?

>>14895717
I've never understood decanters, wouldn't this just oxidize the whiskey faster? I thought it was common knowledge that the bottom of the bottle will never be as good as a recently opened one.

Totally different story for wine though since it 'opens up the flavor' - is it the same idea with whiskies?

>>14889828
If only you had the 10 which is old enough to be nutty.

>>14895793
Yes the oxidation lets it breath in a controlled way. The porous nature of the crytal speeds things up a bit while reduced off gassing holds flavors/perfumes in. You really notice the difference after a couple of weeks go by but you can tell the difference after a week

>>14890906
>While they have almost no rules in place for what can be called a whisky
This is probably a good thing in modern times in a first world country.
I have yet to come across a whisky related law, or even a sign of quality, without a delicious whisky that breaks that rule.
The laws should be focused more on if it whisky at all, rather than attempting to force whisky to be made in a certain way.

>>14893379
>I recommend starting with laphroaig 10
>as a first whiskey
wat
I mean, I like Laphroaig, but
wat
>>14890852
Oh, look, based mods enforced global rules 10 and 11 regarding the paid Talisker shill. Nice.

>>14892532
Go to a whisky bar with a friend.
Order half pours of 40 different whiskies to share.
Drink them all.

Given you're inexperienced I'd suggest you pick from each section of the menu, or each region, or whatever the bartender recommends instead of going A-Z down the menu.
And regardless I recommend you pick a reasonable price cap because your secondary goal at this point is probably to find something you'd actually be willing to buy.

>>14893119
>Jack Daniels is a pretty safe entry point
If your goal is to make them quit.
>Johnnie Walker Green
Not intense enough. Also Gold is an acceptable substitute, as is blue and platinum and other higher end Johnnie Walker whiskies.

>>14889359
? Twain was an avid smoker and drinker until the day he died, this was never in question

>>14895832
Interesting, thanks for the explanation.

>>14894102
Talisker 10 costs double in the anti shills area, which is most of the reason why he's so butthurt.

>>14893534
Bunnahabhain Moine is probably good, but limited edition and sold out already so I'd give it a go. Lagavulin 16 if it's gone.
Talisker 10
Aberlour 12 (especially if it's the more recent non chill filtered bottling)

Highland park, Balvenie, and the older Aberlour bottlings lack intensity.

Yucky.

>>14894838
IMO you should go into American whisky expecting everything to be a price tier below, as it is in America where it actually competes favorably against scotch, etc.

>>14894859
I think Talisker is only rumored to contain sherry, and it is not at all a fruity whisky.
But yea, people like sherry because it's fruity.
Just malt and wood is boring, you need at least a third dimension. And you can create that dimension (or increase it since sherry is fruiter than a naturally fruity spirit) by adding sherry casks. Or peat. Or whatever.

>>14889370
>>14893648
>>14895889
>unable to detect ironic shitposting
jesus christ, the fag even used a wojack to make fun of his post, can't anyone read between the lines anymore?

>>14895793
Some whisky is shit on the first sip and gets better with time.
You use a decanter either to hide the bottle for blind tasting, or so you can serve thirsty plebs bottom shelf stuff and horde the good shit for yourself.

>>14895880
Jentleman jack is just fine imo. Actual jack daniels is gross.

>>14895892
Cheers

>>14895959
Lol maybe if its glass

>>14890078
Rittenhouse blows away Bulleit. Both Bulleit rye & Bourbon are meme tier shit, but somehow people think the bottle is cool an it gets a pass. My personal favorite is WT101.

Old Grand-Dad 114 > Old Grand-Dad Bonded > Wild Turkey 101

>>14896135
...yeah I guess. I do love 114 a bit too much sadly

Maker's cask strength for me tonight boys.

>>14895983
i havent had WT in about a decade. I was split between the WT Rye and Bulleit Rye. WT Rye was under $20 and on the bottom shelf just below the Bulleit's so I went with Bulleit because WTs current advertising is cringe.

>>14891178
Their 86 is just great. My go to for whiskey in general.

>>14895262
I bought a bottle once, it was alright. I've never bought expensive great canadian whiskeys yet, but there's a range of decent quality cheap canadian whiskey.
Are prices for whiskey as awful in ontario as they are in québec?

its actually amazing how quaffable good bourbon is

alright this Bulleit Rye is fucking awful. its gone to just tasting like pickle juice. do I return it or pour it back and forth between a pitcher and the bottle to airate the fuck out of it or would it make due in a cocktail? I literally cant finish my dram pham. its a bad feel ;__;

>>14896568
regular whiskey is 30$ for 750ml, premium whiskey is double that

Five years ago, I was ready to give up on Whisky after trying various different options until I came across pic related. It’s so smooth and it made me appreciate other whiskys. It’s still my favourite. I can enjoy this and not have a hangover but beer and wine fuck me up.

I know that lots of people shit on spirits that claim to be smooth, as if a spirit always needs bite, but Glenmorangie 10 just IS smooth. Not complex and exqusit, perhaps, but miles ahead of Glenfiddich for example.

>>14899344
I have come to the conclusion that I just really hate “smokey” whiskys. I’ve tried many but it’s just too harsh for me, even if I add a few drops of water. I like fruitier whiskys, or most of them are nice anyway. Not a fan of glenfiddich 12

>>14899334
Glenmorangie 10 is so smooth, sometimes I forget I’m drinking scotch. Really good dram though

what does smooth even mean?
something that lifts the saliva out of your mouth and coats your throat with it on the way down. is that what smooth means?

why have people been soyfacing over wt 101 lately? its way too sweet. if you want to keep with wt, russels reserve 10 is a couple bucks more and way better. if you are just going for getting plastered for cheap, ew bonded is a better deal.

>>14899372
Nobody likes smokey whiskeys unless it's in the background of flavour.
Smoke/brine people just want to look tough for being able to drink the nastiest and proofiest thing possible.

>>14899704
Smooth, to me, means that I can drink it without making a face. It means that I won’t wake up the next morning feeling like absolute shit. It means that I can taste what I’m drinking.
>>14899733
That’s what I’ve always thought but I’m no expert

>>14899334
>It’s so smooth
Oh look, it's an NPC.

>>14899718
>lately
It's been heavily shilled here as long as I can remember.

>Give me a pour of E.H. Taylor Small Batch. Any ice in there will get shoved up your ass.

>>14897858
stop buying diageo products my dude
mix it with coke or make a whiskey sour out of it

>>14899932
is there a pic or list of all Diageo products?

>>14895944

>>14889334
>pic related
>literally smells like Christmas
>tastes even better then Christmas

Yellow spot is an amazing Irish Whiskey too.

Scotch I'd have to go Lagavulin 12 - amazing for the price.

World whiskey, probably Habiki or Nikko - both are very smooth and delicious.

Bourbone I'm not too well versed but I love Rye so if anyone can steer me to some delicious Rye Whiskeys I'd much appreciate.

>>14899372
glenfiddich 12 is ubergay.

Edradour sauterness SFTC
Redbreast lustau
Booker's
Kavalan solist port

what are some scotch and irish whiskys under $30 that an bourbon/rye drinker would like

>>14900360
jameson

>>14892182
F, the place I was talking about is in Providence, RI.
I'd recommend trying out Bernheim's, it's a nice wheat-based whisky and probably easier to find.

>>14899932
>stop buying diageo products
This.

>>14900221
Try the cask strength next.
It's the only whisky I have ever had which is "balanced" yet still possesses intense flavors. Intensely flavored whiskies are typically unbalanced.

>>14900128
https://www.diageo.com/en/our-brands/brand-introduction/

>>14900360
jameson caskmates stout
I doubt you can get a decent scotch at that price

>>14892532
work manual labor

>>14900424
thanks, I'll keep an eye out.

>>14900484
>>14900545
always knew Johnnie Walker was a meme before the price hike due to Mad Men, this is good to know.

>>14893023
Redbreast

what is every scotch ever

>>14901070
scotch is too diversive to simplify it, but if I had to. I would say superior

>>14899932
don't have cocktail ingredients so i checked out my parents bar and all they have is this shit. are those premixed "just add whisky" cocktail makers any decent?
>https://www.amazon.com/Master-Mixes-Manhattan-Bottle-Individually/dp/B01LVZYGA6/ref=mp_s_a_1_13?dchild=1&keywords=Sweet%2BVermouth&qid=1602717142&sr=8-13&th=1&psc=1
example

What are some good moderately-priced 100+ proof whiskeys? I like Mellow Corn and Wild Turkey 101 but want to try something new.

>>14901913
glenfarclas 105
I assume you are in the states so old forester, elijah craig

>>14901913
Old Grand-Dad 114 is the manliest whisky ever. That's 114 for 114 proof. With 27% rye in the mash bill, it's got spice and kick. This is not a smooth whiskey. This is a delicious, intensely flavorful, complex and balanced whiskey that'll put hair on your chest. I highly recommend this intensely masculine bottle of poison wood water.
Just look at this shit. Even the massive fucking cork is manly as shit.

>>14901558
Make your own manhattan.
What you'll get from a mix is nothing like a real Manhattan. That's not saying that you will like a real one more, the mix is basically just sugar (HFCS) juice so it may suit you more.

>>14902015
Ok chud

>>14902003
Yup, I'm. Thanks for the recs, will check them out. Would also like to find more corn or rye whiskey than just bourbon.

>>14902015
Doesn't looks like it's near me, only bonded.

>>14902021
Stop trying to force this meme.

>>14902034
Hudson makes a nice 'Baby Bourbon,' 100% corn mashbill. It's very sweet. Worth trying once.

>>14902034
if you want to splurge, balcones true blue or baby blue is fucking amazing corn whisky, no idea about the pricing in states but here it would go for around 80$?

>>14902034
Bonded's still really good for the price. High rye mashbill = welcome to Flavortown, son.

>>14899932
That's like saying don't buy "made in china."
Not just is everything made in china, but the good stuff is too.

>>14899344
>>14899372
But Glenfiddich sounds like exactly what you're looking for.

>>14899704
It mean's it isn't harsh. No single flavor sticks out like a sore thumb, especially the harsh booziness of alcohol itself.
What you're describing sounds more like a combination of tannic (saliva out of mouth) and oily (coats everything on the way down).

>>14899827
>without making a face
Good
>I won’t wake up the next morning feeling like absolute shit
Absolute horse shit.
>It means that I can taste what I’m drinking
Usually the opposite; spirits lacking in intensity are necessarily smooth.

Ardbeg has been great bang for buck for the last few years. Lagavulin has an 8 year old sold for very reasonable prices that is very high quality. The 16 is too damn high now.
Laphroaig has recently gotten worse, at least the typical 10 year old bottling. Springbank continues to be one of the best I've ever had. I've been drinking scotch for long enough to see certain brands cycle in quality, and I bet there are some cheapos on the shelves now that are actually great that I haven't discovered yet.

>>14900221
Redbreast is nothing special at all.
Interesting mouthfeel, but there's nothing to the flavor. And for whatever reason it costs double here.

Lagavulin 12 is also terrible value. The 16 is decent value considering the age, but the 12 costs double that.

And then you pick really over priced Japanese whisky's for the world category.

I don't think you'd know value if it slapped you in the face.

>>14902483
Springbank is my distilleryfu. Springbank a delicious and a cute!

>>14902483
>Lagavulin has an 8 year old sold for very reasonable prices that is very high quality
Here the 8 has only ever been $5 cheaper than the 16 and it's substantially worse.
Laphroaig Select, Ardbeg Wee Beastie, Talisker Skye/Storm, Bowmore No.1 , etc are all about the same price as their standard bottlings too.

>>14902529
you like the taste of condoms mixed with tears?

>>14902424
name a good product then

>>14902603
I don't think it tastes like that, and if I did I think I'd think of "rubber" before I thought of "condoms." I think you should do some self-reflection on why your mind immediately moved in a penis-related direction, anon.

>>14902824
A good Diego product, a good Chinese product, or just anything?

>>14902859
the former as the latter does not exist.
>>14902858
idk anon, it's just that taliskerr and springbank have similiar reviews, people talking about "childhood" and how it reminds them of the taste of used condoms, tears and the scent of their father. idk man, campbell town whisky ain't my thing

>>14902874
Johnnie Walker, Caol Ila, Oban, Talisker, Lagavulin, Dalwhinnie, Clynelish, Singleton, Auchroisk, Inchgower
Roe & Co
Bulleit
Bundaberg, Pampero
Baileys
Casamigos
Guinness, Kilkenny

All have something good.

so far only the Heaven Hill bottles(Rittenhouse and EW BiB)have produced bubbles when pouring into glass... this normal i take it?

>>14902896
stopped reading at talisker

>>14899334
>>14899372

Gonna give Irish whisky another try soon with Redbreast 12 year. If it's not VERY good, then Irish whisky just sucks

Is Ballentines any good? If not, please don't laugh at me without explaning why.

>lets a fine spirit sit for TWO(2)days
>pours it out "because I bought it"
moar like Ralfy the whisky WASTER!

WHAT A CUNT!!!