/ck/ - Food & Cooking

learn how to properly stock a pantry. it's not easy.
the only way you save money as a homecook is by really using all your ingredients before things go bad.
most retarded shit i see is when my roommate wants to make tacos so he goes out to buy an entire head of lettuce, use maybe a quarter of it, only to throw the rest out.
>What foods are you better off buying?
my pantry is mostly italian and korean. i don't have any ingredients to cook indian food at all (nor do i know how to make it) so i buy that from restaurants.

>>14834098
>makes a pizza
>mad that he didn't buy a frozen one
Do Americans really?

>>14834098
If all you are going by is "cost", you should just buy a bag of oats at the farm-feed store.

What was I thinking... You should buy them from the farmer. They are much cheaper once he's run them through his horse.

>>14834098
Brownies isn't one of them. Your brownies suck and are cake like because either you added a rising agent which you shouldn't or too much flour
Pizza is one of them tho, at least the dough. If you can buy raw dough then it makes no sense to make your own unless you want to show off. It's just too hard and time consuming

>>14834098
How did you manage to fuck up brownies?

>>14834270
A bald guy with prison tats made it look easy on youtube, I followed his recipe, but the cut the extra chopped chocolate cause it was too expensive.

>>14834203
I know, right? Why would he even bother making a pizza from scratch when everyone knows Germany perfected the frozen pizza years ago and ships them all over the world.

>>14834300
Since I was a child I have always just used the recipe on the box of hershey's cocoa powder and it always comes out perfectly

>>14834098
I completely disagree with you about the pizza. By making it at home, you build your pizza related cooking skills. Then, over time, you're making better pizza than you could buy for so little money.
As for lower quality quick pizza, you can make that at home too. Sometimes I buy bagels to have for breakfast, but sometimes I take a bagel, split it, put pizza sauce and mozzarella on it with some other stuff, usually pepperoni, and bake it. All those ingredients I have on hand anyway, and the final product ends up being better than store-bought pizza bagels for not as much money. I've done the same with flatbread if I have any on hand.

Home cooking isn't necessarily just about saving money. It's about investing in developing a skill that makes you independent of the system. Society could break down tomorrow and other people are just going to starve because the only cooking skill they have is pressing numbers on a microwave.

>>14834337
I'll never starve so long as I have my guns and a can opener. :^)

>>14834098
I'm off of delivery pizza. Delivery charges are the biggest fucking scam in the restaurant industry. They don't go to the driver, it's just an excuse for pizza chains to tell you that a $12 pizza costs $10. It's not even about the money, I just don't like paying people to lie to me. Newman's Own pizzas with the sausage and uncured pepperoni are good for the price, and only take 12 minutes to pop in the oven.

Making your own pizza is not cost efficient. You do it because you enjoy it, know you can make something that tastes better, and don't want nigger spit in your food.

>>14834344
>C-can I get a pepperoni pizza Pweez?
> Sure that will be 10 dollars.
> K but you gotta send a guy to drive it all the way to my house.
> Oh okay, so 12 dollars with delivery.
> REEE it should cost the same, YoU sCaMmInG mE!

>>14834254
I can smell your grinning yellow teeth from here. What's with retards thinking it's either full send one way or another? There's a middle ground you fucking idiot

>>14834098
Honestly all of them. This board is one big meme, always claiming you should make everything from scratch whenever you can. Okay retards so to make a sandwich, according to you, I need to:
>bake and slice the bread
>catch, cook, and cut tuna
>make mayo from scratch
Every god damn time? Do you have a life? Where do you get all that time? Here's a non meme answer:
>buy loaf of bread
>buy can of tuna
>buy jar of mayo
>prepare them whenever you want a sandwich
Wow, saved yourself probably a day of labor with a couple dollars. Fucking useless retards.

>>14834343
Misconception. Within two weeks anyone not armed won’t have any supplies and if you need them you need to kill someone else who is also armed and bunkered down giving them a defensive advantage.

>>14836448
Go back to your fast food thread mouthbreather.

Most premade food, assuming you're buying the good kind, is just better.
>brownies
>ketchup
>yogurt
>mac n cheese
Some examples. Sure you could make it at home but it's going to cost a lot of time instead of money and probably won't even taste as good.

>>14836421
Not him, but you came away with the wrong point. Pizza being delivered instead of picked up is the default expectation, and advertising prices should reflect that. What should happen is that there's a discount for picking up the pizza. Nickle-and-Diming with fees not shown in advertising is a pox.

>>14834098
this post was brought to you buy Nestle, buy our premade shit.

>>14836448
Kraft Heinz corporation endorses this post

>>14834098
If reasonable home made foods like pizza are more expensive than premade or fast food then something is really fucked about your local economy. That shouldn't happen.

>>14836483
>This is what he gets upset over
Its almost like it costs money to add toppings but it doesn't cost less if you remove them.

>>14836512
Not everyone wants pepperoni pizza. But nearly everyone wants their pizza delivered when they order pizza. This is what it meant by
>default expectation

>>14836470
Shut the fuck up you girly European faggot. Go bake your bread while someone fucks your wife.

>>14834098
What toppings could possibly cost that much??

>>14834098
Honestly the only one I've encountered is filo pastry. You CAN make it yourself but to get it anywhere near as thin as storebought is a gigsntic pain.

>>14834098
You want to absolutely save money? Make your own coffee. It cost pennies to make and it's sold for dollars.

>>14834098
>>14834266
Cake like brownies are usually due to overstirring the batter. Keep it to 100 stirs or less. It helps if you mix your wet and dry ingredients separately first before combining. That way you're not trying to beat the egg while also incorporating the dry ingredients, which will take too many stirs.

>>14836588
Okay, admittedly I've got two pizzas worth of ingredients, other dough balls in the fridge, block of motz was like $3 bucks peporon was $4 tomato sauce was $2, this plus hand kneeding dough from scratch,
$9 where i can get a bigger 1 topping pizza for pickup down the road for $10, or no prep work frozen for around $5

>>14834098
it looked better than it tasted.

>Hey guys I'm really bad at cooking and baking that means everyone should buy their food pre-made!

imagine being this dude

>>14834098
>shitty cake brownies
you get much better brownies if you melt chocolate on the stove than if you use cocoa powder. it's very easy to do, and that one small change will make them as good as a box of pre-baked brownies, even if you're a shitty baker

>>14834098
take out pizza > home made pizza > frozen pizza

>>14836631
also don't bother with a percolator or a french press or some fancy pourover shit, just buy a cup-sized strainer and some small filters. put the coffee grounds in the filter, the filter in the strainer, and the strainer over the coffee cup. slowly pour the boiled water over the grinds, and you have yourself a cup of coffee.

dairy products and flour are the only things i can think of that i can't make better and cheaper myself

good or meme?

>>14837561
I had a drip coffeemaker that costed me 20$ and lasted me a decade.
Seriously, you can't beat that.

>>14837610
a strainer costs like $5, I just beat it by $15

>>14834098

Sushi.

>>14836872
>admittedly I've got two pizzas worth of ingredients
>$9
For two pizzas. $4.50 is a lot less than $10. Though you also don't account for the cost to bake or time to make. But by doing it at home you can use better ingredients and more of them for less.

>>14837568
>when you can't carry your diverse family to Pizza Hut because you spent cash on crack cocaine but it's okay because P.Murphy takes food stamps so you can watch your kids can be happy eating pizza and playing on a stolen PS4 that BeBe's little cousin Jamal got for him since your S.O. is doing 5-10 years in state penitentiary for armed robbery.

>>14836881
Cake brownies suck. You could salvage it by putting frosting on it if you want, or just some whipped cream or something. Like someone else said it's probably from too much flour or a leavening agent which proper brownies don't need. Surprisingly the best brownie recipe I've found is one from the Walmart brand of cocoa powder, though their cocoa powder actually isn't very good and I'd recommend using another brand. They come out perfectly fudgy.

It's more expensive to initially buy the ingredients but it gets cheaper in the long run because you get more meals out of it, and generally cheaper premade food skimps on the things you should be eating more of and it has more cheap filler. That's why most frozen pizza has a thick crust and not very much cheese.

>>14837690
You still have to generate boiling water.
Besides, that strainer thing doesn't worth the trouble.

>>14836459
Carbon monoxide poisoning is the great equalizer. :^)

>>14839806
You are a dumb nigger if think that is going to work in any way shape or form.

>I'll just poison them!
>I can burn down their house!
>They are totally incapable of reaction or simply shooting me as I am an invisible ninja that can do anything I want and they can only allow my plans to completely succeed.

No you would be shot by some boomer the instant you tried getting near his house and that is if you are lucky. The second ground of people to go after the unarmed? The armed and lone wanderers. Groups will take over and kill every dumb nigger that thinks they are rambo because its far easier to kill you and take your shit than to try to shoot their way into a house that may or may not be booby trapped but certainly has guns and a massive tactical advantage.

Croissants and ketchup aren't worth making from scratch.

I tried making pancakes from scratch but the result was worse, more expensive, and more work than just using the premade mix in a box. It's a pancake anyway, it's basically junk food, no need to make it from scratch.

>>14840015
You can get lighter pancakes from scratch by using cake or pastry flour which has less protein, or substituting some flour with corn starch.

This is my favorite pancake recipe though, I really like the texture and flavor but I don't think there are any boxed versions of something like this.

>>14834300
>changing the recipe
You can't fuck with baking recipes unless you aren't a mongoloid.

>>14834337
Pizza is easy enough. It's just that people are fatally lazy.

>>14834098
Pizza toppings are pretty much whatever you have laying around. I've almost always got a bunch of stuff that would be good on pizza on hand. I almost never buy ingredients specifically for a meal, unless it's something special. That's part of learning to cook, knowing what you can make with what you have.

>>14839991
I make ketchup all the time, so fuck off Mr. Heinz.

>>14840015
You serious? The box stuff is basically just flour.

>>14840015
Were you drunk? I take that back, I can make pancakes drunk. You must have used soy milk.

>>14836881
did you not add melted chocolate into the mix?

Bruh tweak the recipe before talking shit. If the brownies are too cakey just put more melted chocolate and less flour. If it's not better than the box you're just doing it wrong.

I remember I made shepards pie for me and my gf a long time ago and we would have been much better off just going somewhere to get it. it was good and i felt it was a solid first attempt but we could have gotten it just as good for cheaper, quicker and more conveniently at a restaurant. money-wise, cooking is a meme unless you're doing it for your spouse and 2+ children. then you can see why it would be more cost-effective to do it at home. otherwise, just go out.

>>14840129
No, you're just bad at it. Even when I was single, I cooked everything at home. It was way cheaper, and definitely tastier.

unless you are really bad at it, a home made pizza will always taste 10 times better than any frozen one

>>14834343
so what will you do when you run out of ammo?

>>14840165

making oatmeal and rice & beans is not cooking.

>>14840213
Nah, I'm not you.

>>14840236

that didn't make sense. what are you drinking?

>>14836478
Everything you posted is better made at home. Especially macaroni and cheese.

Anything deep fried unless you wanna stink up your whole joint like grease

>>14840048
Don't forget to toast the oats first.

>>14834337
>learn how to properly stock a pantry. it's not easy.
>the only way you save money as a homecook is by really using all your ingredients before things go bad.
Thank you for at least being realistic. Stocking a pantry sucks, and requires a knowledge base. You have to refuse going out with people or having another food craving because you've chosen that you're going to eat whatever you bought, damn the consequences. Your friends want to hit the bar? Nope, can't, expiring produce.

>most retarded shit i see is when my roommate wants to make tacos so he goes out to buy an entire head of lettuce
He should buy a smaller portion of lettuce, but at that point he's not saving money. I'm not coming at you specifically, but cooking at home to save money better mean you're scraping by for your family or prefer being alone.

>Home cooking isn't necessarily just about saving money. It's about investing in developing a skill that makes you independent of the system. Society could break down tomorrow and other people are just going to starve because the only cooking skill they have is pressing numbers on a microwave.
Yet, you're going to be making cost effective pizzas in a home oven if "society breaks down?" My ass. You'll be eating hobo stew for the very basics of sustenance.

>>14840166
But not better than a delivered one. People aren't all good cooks. It's reality.

>>14840165
Congrats, jerk yourself off. I bet it's more likely that you just didn't want to admit your time and effort went into mediocre cooking that people would decline if they weren't you.

>>14836631
Or just don't drink the stuff, its bad for you...

>>14834098
Puff pastry.
More of an ingredient than a food in itself, but definitely not worth making from scratch.

Tonkotsu ramen.

>>14834098
Maybe you just suck at baking.

>>14835419
I buy a five pound tin of pizza sauce at a specialty store for 8$ Of which I use 25 cents worth per pie

Dough for one large pizza is easily less than a dollar even when I use semolina and organic flour.

Cheese is expensive but I like to use 1/8 lb
mozzarella and 1/8 lb provolone per pizza. Prices vary, I usually shop sales and buy bulk: 2$ per pie is about right but 3$ would be reasonable with extra cheese and some parm or Romano

I like the boars head pepperoni stick because I am not that poor use a quarter or a third of it: 2$

Slice black olives from a bulk jar : 50 cents
Sesame seeds for crust: 25 cents
Fuck ton of garlic: 25 cents
Grow and dry my own basal and oregano because I am not retarded.
7.25 $ is more expensive than the froZen turds but you avoid all the shitty filler and it makes bitches drip.

>>14836483
>>14836522
I fucking hate delivery. it takes forever because the driver gets lost, the restuarant ALWAYS forgets the sides/drink/dip/plates, and you never get enough parmesan or red pepper. AND it costs extra on top

>>14834098
Sushi. the rice is not as good and you won't get good fish.

>>14836448

Fishing for tuna is fun. Have you ever plunged a spike into a yellowfin or blue fins skull after you reel them to surface and have your buddy gaff them. I only wish I could do it to you as well

>>14840620
You know, you're agreeing with that anon.

>>14834188
Lettuce is good on its own why throw it away?

>>14834308
These are disgusting.