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General threads are cancer and you should kill yourself.

>>14787839
Suck my dick you faggot

Why does /ck/ hate MM?

>>14787863
Makers Mark? More like Makes me Barf, HA HA HA

MAKERS MARK HATIN'

>>14787897
CROSSPOSTIN'

>>14787922
KEKMAKIN'

there is already one whiskey thread faggot

>>14787837
for £20 its a decent bottle. Although id recommend looking into indie bottlings of Glen Keith, especially 20+ year old single casks as that range is where the spirit really shines for me.

>>14787837
Wild Turkey Kentucky Rye or Jack Daniel's Tennessee Rye?

>>14787837
If you liked it, who cares what other reviews say?

What did you like about it? Are you wanting to explore more scotch next (there's a pretty decent range of flavors and styles within scotch itself) or would you like to branch out to something not-scotch? And if not-scotch, would you prefer something more or less similar to what you've had?

>>14788617
Wt101 or knob creek for rye

Lagavulin 12 is my favorite whisky

>>14787839
how much time do you spend posting this? you're basically a step down from a janny

>>14788617
Skip both and get Bulleit Rye

>he dilutes and/or chills his whiskey

>>14789680
Second.

A drink a bottle of 750ml jameson every night

>>14787837
Aberlour 12

>>14787863
I don’t hate it but I won’t buy it. For $15 more I can get a better scotch or for $15 dollars less I can get Jack and get hammered. Let’s be honest, if someone is drinking Jack they’re trying to forget some shit.

>>14787847
based t shirt

Picked up the Highland Park and the Laphroaig last week, was almost out of Taliskers.
Pretty big fan of the Highland, the Laphroaig doesn't have much to it.

What do you fellas think of Johnny Walker Black Label?

>>14790037
Mixer trash scotch.

I generally dont drink hard alcohols. But latelly I want to drink them while watching movies & series.
Now, how much one should drink per session, without problems? Any advise for it?

>>14788617
God damnit, there should be a rule to keep Americunts and their bogwater out of whiskythreads. Bourbon is trash and you are a tastelet and human trash if you prefer it to scotch. Fuck!

>>14790176
Get whisky glass, fill it to the level of your first finger digit. That's about an ounce, or half a standard drink. Refill it to your liking based on that information

>>14790179
Go back to Redd/int/, kiddo.

>>14790204
The irony. Bourbon=reddit, Whisky=4chan. You need to go back.

>>14790037
I'm a scotch snob but never actually tried it until a few days ago
smell is ambiguous toasted malt and smoke
taste is ambigous sweet malt and what I can only describe as wool sweater, with some really weird tannin and dryness on the back end for a bunch of 12 years
don't recommend at all, get jameson instead for good budget whiskey

>>14790037
Underrated. It has become popular to trash talk it but it is decent in taste and price. I like the taste of red fruit, raisins mixed with a whiff of smoke.

>>14790037
it's drinkable decent table whiskey. Although if you want a blended scotch that tastes better and is cheaper go for Famous Grouse. Plus the bottle has a cute bird on it

>>14790303
>Jameson
vomit inducing

>>14790020
>buying Laphroaig Select instead of Laphroaig 10
Why would you do this?
>buying Highland Park
Oh. Oh no. It's retarded.

>>14789969
Jack itself is overpriced, Evan Williams is cheaper and better.

>>14790037
>Marathon
Based

>>14787837
Where did you get it for £20?

>>14790544
I like them. First time trying both of them.

>>14787837
Never heard of Glen Keith. What makes it better than a non-distillery edition? it looks NAS and unfinished to me.
Anyway, I am a firm believer in "any glen will do" so now that you've got the basics covered try something peaty or something sherried. I recommend Ardbeg (though maybe Talisker if you're skeptical) and Lassanta/Ruben.

>>14790020
How does the Select compare to the 10 or QC?
I'm fairly skeptical because it seems like a younger 10 that wasn't made cheaper for no reason.
The QC also competes with the 10 in terms of price, which I'm not a fan of. You're kind obligated to try it if you like the 10, but you're just going to decide which is better and never buy the other one again. I much prefer 12-15-18 ranges where it's pretty clear they're trying to put out the best they can for a price point. Talisker worst offender.

>>14790037
Depends on market.
Here it is cheaper than a 12 year old Speyside, and the Green is more expensive. So although it's not great it has a place.
I hear in other places it's almost as expensive as the green, which is cheaper than 12 year old Speysides, so there's no place for it at all.

>>14790037
For me, it's JW Green

>>14790179
>>14790238
Tonight I'm drinking britbong seethe, triple-distilled, finished in ex-bourbon casks.

>bought Redbreast 12 instead of Glenmorangie 10
please tell me I didn't fucked up

>>14794641
You bought an excellent irish instead of a solid, entry level single malt.
Not a bad choice at all.

Any tips on how to not immediately drink all the scotch I buy?
I don't buy alcohol because I end up drinking it every night until its gone. Makes me feel like an alcoholic.
But I do enjoy scotch.

>>14795561
Quit for a day, extend to a week if you can. Then to a month, then six. You'll feel noticeably sharper

>>14795771
I haven't drank in a few months. It's just that when I have it, I like drinking it every day.

>>14795561
Before I drink I make sure I have a lot of food and non-alcoholic drinks at home so I won't feel the need to go out when I get hungry. Then I get something that will get me good and drunk, for me its a half-pint of Wild Turkey 101. That will give me a really good buzz, then I get hungry, eat the good grub I bought, then climb into bed and watch a movie. Just so you know, this will be expensive, and you will get fat. Good luck.

>bought a wild turkey for the first time from amazon
>got returned because i forgot you need to sign that shit since its an age restricted item
fuck sake

Any other Lagavulin 16 chads in here?

>>14796319
This is almost exactly what I do. Except I usually don't have the foresight to buy food first and order takeout/buy frozen white castle burgers from the corner store. It's why I don't buy booze ever.

>>14789665
He's a powerless janny, the lowest lifeform on earth lmao

>>14796351
Diageooooooo

Thoughts on the Black Snake whisky ? A lot of people seem to dislike it but I am enjoying it right now.

>>14787837
Has anyone tried Ardmore Traditional?
I've had Ardmore Legacy and it was terrible. It tasted like peat and nothing else. But I also had a IB 6 year old and it was substantially better (though probably still to young).
It's on sale and sales suck at the moment.

>>14796326
Yea I can't get an ID because the post offices are only open during work hours during COVID, so I've been ordering in other peoples names.

>>14795787
Drinking one dram a day isn't too bad. It's under the weekly intake recommendations (though some countries claim you need some alcohol free days).

Anyone ever try pic related? I can't imagine it actually being a small batch. I also can't imagine it being worth $35/liter

>>14797462
One dram a day master race reporting in.

>>14797510
I bought it for 28$/L and it is actually very good, and yes, small batch. they are a buying club so they get access to excess good shit from different producers. Their Kirkland single malt scotch is also very good

>>14797538
The small batch remark is if they're able to get a pallet or more of it to every store how small of a batch could it actually be?

Thanks I may give it a shot the next time I see it though.

>>14787863
Maker's Mark as a company is pretty good, their 46 and Store Picks are pretty good, but standard Maker's is mediocre and their bottle is pretty gimmicky.

>>14790037
Based Marathon poster, I think it's the bare minimum neat-drinkable scotch, I generally use it as a cocktail mixer since using a single malt would be a waste.

Drank a dram of each of these tonight

Bruichladdich Classic Laddie
Oban 14
Ardbeg 10
Auchentoshan Three Wood

WILD TURKEY 101 IS OVERRATED!

>>14790037
good for scotch & soda and rusty nails

>>14797956
how is the oban 14 and do you think it's worth $83? since we're getting royally screwed with scotch prices where i live i assume it's not.

>>14798391
Rude.

>>14798456
It's ~70 here. I think a lot of people like it because it's a very mild scotch. Which can be good, but if I'm looking for a mild flavor why am I paying that price

>>14798493
>if I'm looking for a mild flavor why am I paying that price
yeah makes sense. finishing off a classic laddie right now, then i'll have a corryvreckan. cheers anon. have a good one.

>>14797510
>7 years
>51.5%

Sounds great to me

>>14798456
Only if you're Australian.

>>14798534
I don't think you're giving light whisky it's due. There is some incredibly complex stuff out there, and on a good day when you haven't eaten anything weird, it is absolutely top tier.
And lighter stuff tends to age better.

In the case of Oban it's the age you're paying for. I'd probably go for Clynleish 14 or Dalwhinnie 15 instead though.

>>14796351
just finished a bottle

beautiful expression

>>14798550
I love Clynelish 14. We just don't have it very often where I live. I almost bought a bottle of Dalwhinnie 15 recently and I might buy one this weekend especially since it's almost $20 less than the Oban.

WHY THE FUCK DID THEY CHANGE THE AUCHENTOSHAN 12, it was my favourite go to budget malt and now it's garbage, why would they do this to me? What is next? glenkinchie? don't they dare

>>14798848
Bourbon is a better buy at the price range of budget/entry level scotches anyways.

>>14790504
your opinion is garbage to be honest

>>14797510
I'm 90% sure this is basically just single-barrel dickel

i think whiskey tastes like shit

>>14798883
no

Halfway through a bottle of Tenjaku, it's very nice, really drinkable.

In Asia so figure I'd try more Japanese whiskeys, what should I try next?

>>14794641
No Redbreast is fantastic

>>14794641
both are great, I personally prefer redbreast but for a begginer I would say the kind of sharp alcohol you can get with irish might be too offensive.
>>14798883
>guy lists two most delicate and floral whiskies you can get
>DUH BOURBON
can you not?

>>14798883
Only if you're in America. When both are taxed Bourbon gets blown the fuck out except at the bottom end.

>>14799081
>Tenjaku
I tried it at a blind tasting and it handily won.
Not amazing value for money though.
Taketsuru Pure Malt is the only other Japanese whisky on my to buy list (though there's definitely one missing).

>>14787837
Balvenie Caribbean Cask. By far my favourite Scotch which is mildly odd because it’s finished in rum casks and rum is the only spirit I don’t enjoy.

>>14797956
>Oban
good choice
>>14798456
My favourite. It's great.

>>14787837
Use reviews only to map out good future purchases. If you like a whisky, you like it. That's all there needs to be to it. Elitists can fuck off.

Is anyone else a poorfag and has only 1 bottle to sip at a time? I hate the repetitiveness but can't afford to buy multiple bottles rn. It fucking sucks.

>>14799602
when the repetitiveness gets to me I buy like 10 of those mini 50ml ones just so I have something different to drink

>>14799602
if you want to just try as many whiskies as you can join facebook groups n shit, you will get tons of people shilling their samples, getting shit like 10 samples for 30€ n shit. you can get a deal if you just want to try something. I don't like em personally prefer having a bottle, but curious poorfag has go to do what he has go to do

>>14798909
>I think whisky SUCKS!

went with an old classic this week. good times

>>14800020
A friend gave me the blended variety, I'm not much of a whisky man but I appreciate the gesture a lot. What would be the best way to enjoy it?

>>14797462
>weekly intake recommendations
Pretty sure it has been roundly concluded that the recommended intake is no alcohol.

I drink anyway and just try to make sure I'm enjoying it.

>>14799416
This, unless you think you enjoy talisker

How long one does (1) one bottle usually last you? Let's say a bottle of 750ml.

>>14800368
Depends on what it is but I usually just have 3 glasses max on a saturday evening. Cheaper swill I might down more on a friday, not the good stuff.

>>14787837
How do you guys drink straight alcohol, it all tastes like shit. I can only drink it when its mixed with tea soda or milk, and at that point your just trying to mask the alcohol taste.

>>14800490
you have to get accostumed to it? Drink weekly and everytime use less and less of your mixer, and then when u are left with just whisky and ice slowly use less and less ice. Also cut down sugar, the sugar heavy diet makes you think the booze is drier than it actually is

>>14799602
I buy multiple bottles to sip on at the same time, but I only buy on sale.
You could do the same if you delayed for a bit, or bought a new bottle slightly before you finish the old one, etc.

>>14800368
A month.

>>14799602
My Maker's Mark ran out so I headed to the store and looked at some of the liquors recommended here, boggled at the prices, and grabbed some Bulleit instead. It takes me a while to go through a bottle anyway, so I'm still working through the cheaper stuff.

>>14799152
>guy lists two most delicate and floral whiskies you can get
>DUH BOURBON
>can you not?
I'm just trying to nudge the poor lad in the direction of heterosexuality, anon.

What can I get that is similar to Jameson Black barrel, definitely my favorite irish. I tried green spot and writer's tears but BB still came out on top.

>>14800368
a week typically. unless I have a wine dinner or mixed drinks somewhere else in the week and skip a day.

>>14799152
Let me guess- you tried Jack Daniel's, and then stopped?

>>14800036
you mean yellow label? for a bottom shelf whisky it's decent. nothing to write home about so feel free to look up cocktails and experiment.

>>14800368
~3 months unless i'm lucky enough to have friends over.

I love whisky but sincerely dislike drinking.

>>14800490
go online for samples and try glenmorangie, ardbeg corryvreckan, woodford reserve and booker's all side-by side(first sips in that order). Take your time, sip them back to back over two hours. You'll get it.

>>14800622
>muh bourboun for the big roughneck straight man
People who take pride in bourbon as masculine are the kind of gay where they lie to themselves about their sexual arousal while watching WWE, UFC and football.

>>14800368
I got about 3-4 bottles open so I'd say those last me 1-2 years.

>>14800861
aaand he shots, and misses.
No, I enjoy bourbon, in fact weller, bookers and michters american (not a bourbon but close enough) are one of my favourtie drams. Wish weller was more easily available in europe.
I was saying that recommending bourbon to a guy that you can assume is not new to whisky and is clearly into light and floral stuff, is retarded

>>14787837
>>14787837
Judging by the ££ I'm guessing you're in UK, which means, you might be able to get 'Ben Bracken' from Lidl, which is very cheap, but probably a good place to start. They do a 'Highland', an 'Islay' and a 'Speyside'. I tried the Islay and it was very good.

If you want to get into the real thing, then, first of all, check what deals there are. I usually buy something that's aged 10 or 12 and has a good sale price.

I really like smoky/peaty whiskies, but it's not to everyone's taste.

Glenfiddich is really nice, and probably a decent place to start. It's easy going. I wouldn't get a bottle of Laphroig or Ardbeg to start unless you know that's your thing.

I've never bought bourbon in the UK, I don't think there's much price difference between bourbon and scotch in UK.

The reason I recommend 'Ben Bracken' is, if you're new to whiskey you probably won't notice much difference between distilleries in a region. But the 'Ben Bracken' ones will give you some idea of the characteristics of the best known regions, Islay, Speyside and Highland.

This is all scotch of course, I don't know anything about the Irish whiskey.

>>14801213
It's not so much taking pride in bourbon as masculine as categorizing almost any other whiskey as more heterosexual than Auchentoshan or Glenkinchie.

I enjoy various bourbons, ryes, Highlands, Speysides, Islays, Irishs, and a few Japanese whiskeys.

Spend less time finding things to hate and more time finding things to love and one day you'll be as big a chad as me.

>>14799969
Recommend? I'm part of a boomer one my boss invited me to, but no one there does samples.

How do I trust samples are real?

>>14803321
Well, never had those< but fair enough.

this is my go-to

>>14804050
this is my once-in-a-while

>>14800368
1-2 years. i drink only once or twice a year.

>>14791884
I haven't had 10 or QC. I'm a bitch and don't like rough whiskey, and from what I've heard the Select is smoother. Still a bit much for my taste. Hence the Taliskers.

>>14800490
I can't stand cheap whiskey. For me it's not the taste of alcohol though, it's all the shit that is in cheap liquor.

>>14800368
if im alone the whole time, usually a month or two. if i visit friends usually i'll bring a decent bottle and that bottle will be gone by the end of the night, though

>>14800368
I have a 750 from last November. Just something for me and my GF to sip on

>>14804360
If you drank one dram a week (30ml) you'd be done in 6 months. Clearly you haven't been sipping on it.

>>14804369
>dram a week
That's hardly sipping. Whiskey is for special occasional for me. Generally I have cider the once every week or two that I drink.

How good is the Glenlivet 12? I bought one because I haven't tried Speysides yet and it came with a free glencairn glass.

>>14803883
find somewhat local groups and search for those that allow sample sales. Also you can try creating posts asking for help in choosing the right whisky, some sample shill is bound to crop up in your pms

>>14804485
it's ok, nothing special, but definitly not bad

>>14800368
3 weeks/1 month.

>>14800675
Glenfarclas 105 is a quite similar but better. Good value/l to boot.

>>14799081
>>14799173
Before looking at "Japanese" whiskies, try finding out if they are imported grain shit. While I agree that taste comes first, stop reinforcing shitty business decisions.
>>14804854
Really now? Let us examine the facts. Jameson is 40% Irish with an additional distillation.
Glenfarclas 105 is 60% with an intense sherry finish.
I'd say those two are fucking far apart, you can even look at the tasting notes. The 105 is more towards pic related, less complex obviously.
>>14800675
Cannot talk from experience but I'd go for a bourbon cask whisky, non-peated ofc.

If the dude with the Caol Ila special bottlings is around, care to give a word or two if they were worth?

>>14790601
Based. BiB crushes all.

Perfection...

>>14805570
I have a bottle of their An Oa which I think is pretty good. I'm thinking if I should next get a bottle of the Uigeadail or an even higher line from Ardbeg. Anyone have any experience with the non-Ten/Wee Beastie/An Oa/Uigeadail Ardbegs?

>>14806013
Corryvreckan is the best of the always available Ardbegs, IMO. It's everything great about Ardbeg on steroids.
The Uigeadail is the most complex with the nice peat/sherry balance but the Corryvreckan just has more Ardbeg character.

>>14806108
>>14806013
Wish I had a bottle of Blaaack CR

What can I make if I have a malibu, kahlua and a jameson?

>>14789961
I bough this in my local tesco today. Not disappointed so far.

>>14787837
Gordon Keith is better.

>>14801324
Don't open too many bottles at once. Whiskey can be noticeably degraded after 6 to 24 months of being opened.

How many of you have ever met a woman who sincerely enjoys islay scotch?

>>14807086
I introduced my boyfriend to Islays.

For me, it's Jim Beam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaUH-mYyZuE&t=3

>>14806704
>6 to 24 months
even as a casual drinker how the fuck do you stretch out a bottle for 6 months

>>14807387
You have more than one bottle

Any Glenfiddich lovers? What I drink when I'm feeling good and to pair it a No. 4 Monte Cristo.

>>14807387
The goal, if you're not a one a day drinker, is to have as many bottles open as drams you would drink in an evening. Though you'll frequently have more than that as it pays well to maintain an additional cache so that you only have to buy on sale and when the sales are good.

>>14807086
Of my drinking group one girl does (though she seems to like everything), and another much prefers medium peat ala Talisker.

glenmorangie is pretty good, thanks /ck/

>>14807108
>>14807996
Pretty cool.


>>14807988
>only have to buy on sale and when the sales are good.
>Michigan
>sales
Fucking control states. Who cares if we still have AR15s, this country ain't free.

>>14808226
They're shit, actually.

this is the first time i've drank in some years. it was only 3 shots why im i so fucked up im not even small

>>14808556
you're shit, nigger

>>14808549
>Michigan
Except I'm Australian and probably pay double what it costs you anyway.

>>14808952
Thought and prayers to you whisky bro

>>14804595
Thanks anon. I liked it, nice for the price point and especially with the freebie. It's a nice sipping whiskey.

Is this stuff exciting at all or is it just the 'lite' version? I like Springbank a lot, what does this ogffer?

>>14805347
Isnt it fucking obvious that you (can) dilute the Glenfarclas? Just goes to show you are clueless. I had both recently so I know what I am talking about. You add a ton of water and it becomes a nice strong flavored scotch that has a similar taste to the Jameson only better. You are also ignorant of the fact that the Jameson Black Barrel is also sherry'd to begin with. The Jameson Black Barrel is close to being a watered down Glenfarclas 105. The sherry in the Glenfarclas is not that thick (not like a Hughland Park, Glendronach), raisins, banana, chocolate and burnt apple are the primary tasting notes.

Dont listen to this idiot and consider buying the Glenfarclas 105 next. You won't be sorry. Quite strong flavours and great value for your money. Its a step up from the Jameson.

>>14809341
>added water to scotch
>knows what he's talking about
Pick one.

>>14800368
less than 2 days

I had Jim Beam for the first time and had no idea that it would have a caramel kick to it. I really liked it. I've had Canadian Club before and it was kinda meh.

>>14809477
Found the retard.

>>14809805
Neat is objectively the correct way to enjoy whiskey. Diluting whiskey is objectively incorrect and is for women and gays.

>>14809477
You are beyond help. Whiskylet.

>>14809805
This.

What's the most Halloween-ish liquor/brand?

>>14809341
>Glenfarclas
I don't know about you, dude, but I'm not prepared to walk up to the counter and ask the clerk for some "Glen fuck ass" ha ha ha sorry man

If the ABV isn't above 50%, you should drink it neat.

If the ABV is over 50%, you can consider adding a few droplets of water to see if that gets you a flavor you like better. (YMMV)

If it's shit whiskey, you're just gonna basic bitch mixed drinks with it, anyways, so who gives a fuck.

this taste like shit, you guys tricked me :(

>>14810336
too woody? too spicy? too alcoholic? or was it your first bourbon?
What was the problem anon

>>14810342
Idk it tastes a bit like cough medicine. Liquorishy sweet medicine flavor. Don't like it.

>>14811232
hmm, so maybe stay away from bourbons high in rye, but thats weird never heard anyone saying stuff like this. If you want to keep trying bourbons try weller or makers mark. Or try scotch

tried this for the first time a couple weeks ago, really enjoyed it

>>14806389
It's excellent, like seared cherries and saltwater taffy. Definitely a weirder release, but on the good side of the spectrum.

>>14787847
why does he think fork lift guys are tough? they sit down all day and drive around

>>14811353
Maybe it's because we didn't go to your faggot university to get our neg holes pozzed

>>14811264
WT101 isn't even a high rye bourbon. It advertises itself as such but it is not. Its mash bill is about the same as Jim Beam or Evan Williams in terms of rye content.

Thoughts about Dalmore 12? My first single malt and I did like it, reminds me of orange chocolate.

>>14811745
I want to try it, but my usual liquor store doesn't have it and it's the biggest one in the area so I'm not sure where else to look.

>>14811745
I liked it. Some dried citrus but lots of toasty, dark flavors that was more reminiscent to me of tobacco. Would have made for an excellent cigar accompaniment if I had still smoked cigars.

>>14811306
Nice flex.

What bourbon makes the best Mint Julep?
Torn between Booker's and Maker's Mark 101

>>14812225
>booker's
>mix

What a waste

>>14805347
>If the dude with the Caol Ila special bottlings is around, care to give a word or two if they were worth?
Not him but that information is widely available on whiskybase.
Generally stuff like the 22yr from Feis Ile 2019 is secondary priced around 500 euros. Basically any 20+ year old Caol Ila or stuff from the 80s and before sells high these days because of rarity and that they basically had very similar specs to Port Ellen, however I find similar aged Caol Ila is meatier and earthier then Port Ellen.
>>14809341
>The sherry in the Glenfarclas is not that thick (not like a Hughland Park, Glendronach)
Highland Park OBs barely use sherry though. Glendronach's newer stuff isn't that strong fill sherried either, probably on par with Glenfarclas.
I can get the comparison between Glenfarclas and Jameson/Midleton at times because they both have some similar ginger and floral, but they're still very different whiskies most of the time given the banana and thick oily note that comes out of a lot of Midleton distillate that isn't really there in Glenfarclas which is a lighter, green fruit forward spirit.
>>14810006
Maybe learn the English language then?

>>14812225
OWA 107. However, I got it back when it was $25 and not fucking $60.

>>14787837
Oban 12 yr, Balvenie Caribbean cask, lagavulin

>>14787837
>I’ve been wanting to get into whiskey but didn’t know where to start.
Just buy shit and rember what you like and what you didn't

>>14789084
like bacon in a shotglass?

>>14790238
>>14787837
I drink indian whisky and work for micro$oft. Do I win?

>>14813326
I like how Quinta Ruben and Glendronach are on opposite sides.
Quinta Ruben has both more oak and more fruit.

>>14813476
>Quinta Ruben has both more oak and more fruit.
More sulfur too, probably.
>Glenmorangie in charge of cask quality control

>>14790176
>buy cheapest plastic rotgut whiskey at the discount liquor store
>drive home
>immediately pour 4 fingers in a whiskey glass and finish in 30 minutes
>repeat 4 more times
>finish the handle in 3-4 days
>ascend

>>14813326
Is there any negative to oaking your shit up if it's your first scotch. asking for a friend

>>14814266
nope, oak doesn't really mean wood taste, it means sweet spice and raisin, as well as nutty sherry

>>14814272
No, it does mean wood taste.
Oak has nothing to do with sherry or raisins.

As for if there's anything wrong with that whisky, the only critiques I've heard is that it's too intense, or that it tastes of wood glue. Neither of which I have a problem with.

>>14809305
Pls advise

Does abundah have the same sherry profile as macallan 12?

I fucking hate macallan, sickly, cloyingly sweet. But I like balvenie 12 and loove ardbeg uigaedail.

>>14814477
No.

>>14814266
the only way to go bb

>>14814266
Oak is fucking delicious as long as it's not too tannic.

>>14814477
jeez dude if macallan is sweet for you, your pallet is fucked

>>14816214
how so?

It's not just sweet, but a particular type of sweet. I think bourbon is sweet, but it's a pleasant sweet, like honey or something. Macallan tastes sweet like this nasty blackberry brandy (just the sweetness, not flavor) did when I was 8 and my mom would give it to me to solve diarrhea.

>>14816258
bro, thats weird, never in my entire life I would say bourbon is sweet, it's woody, spicy maybe I am a pussy that was bred on high sugar food but jesus christ

>>14813925
<not adding liquid smoke to vodka

>>14790500
Teacher's is where its at

>>14794641
You made the right choice. Objectively. The fact you picked my personal all-time favourite has no impact whatsoever on my judgement.

what's it like?

>>14812651
To be fair, I trust a fag on a Taiwanese whisky enthusiast forum far more than people who cultivate a profile on a "real" whisky page. The commercial aspect ruins it for me. Cheers for the input.
>>14816980
If the 15 is anything to go by, expensive and peppery, no Talisker though. The diminished smokiness allows the subtler aromas to appear.

>>14811353
He's not very clever, that's why. Anyone who buys a targeted shirt like that is dumber than a computer algorithm

>>14789680
Bulleit rye is just MGP

>>14804054

They sell the airline size for .99 cents at my local corner store. I usually pick up a few for the drive home.

>>14807645
very good anon you truly have a classy taste.

>>14800368
Is it bad I drink 3-4oz (100ml+) every day?

>>14818109
for your health? yes.

Anyone have any recs for peated whiskies that aren't too brine-y in character? I've had Laphroiag 10 and Ardberg 10 but I'm interested in branching out to something a bit different.

>>14818354
Lost Spirits Abomination: Sayers of the Law

So I was in a restaurant a few days ago and they had Auchentoshan which I've never seen before so I ordered one from the waitress. When she was about to go, I said by the way can I get that whiskey with no ice? She comes back with two glasses, one for my Auchentoshan and one for my "whiskey with no ice". Did I say something wrong or is this waitress retarded? Do people in the restaurant industry differentiate "scotch" and "whiskey"?

>>14819026
was there ice in the auchentoshan? so yeah, she basically sounds dumb as hell.

>>14818354
I don't think those two are particularly briney, so your best bet is probably to abandon islay.
Benromach and Benriach for Speyside.
Inchmoan for Highland.

>>14817501
You can only use MGP as a pejorative if you're being charged premium prices like with Angels Envy. There's no reason to shit talk Bulleit Rye for being the same thing cheaper.

>>14817139
The well here is just as poisoned. No anons are being payed, but a lot of advice given here is parroted from the forums you distrust.
The commercial aspect is bad, buy you can find reviewers where comparative review isn't a concern (so if they run a review site or are a large retailer with no allegiances to specific companies).
What you need from advice is a combination of experience and a similar palate. You shouldn't expect to find either here.

>>14819875
>I don't think [Laphroaig 10 is] particularly briney
You what?

>>14798380
>>14798391
Get back here

>>14800675
I got this cause it was on sale, no expectations and was surprised how good it turned out

>>14809782
If you like caramel you might like maker’s mark. Not my favorite anymore, but a great whisky for getting into whisky. Has a very cherry/caramel/butterscotch thing going on. I need to try the 46, but the standard bottling is reliable.

>>14820680
>maker's mark
>caramel
rubbish, it's pure nail polish and wood bitterness.

one bottle a week is a pretty expensive habit, fuck

>>14787847
people actually wear t-shirts like this? embarrassing

>>14817139
I don't trust whiskybase on a lot of stuff (especially limited bottlings due to scalpers being scalpers) but its not inaccurate regarding secondary pricing aside from American whiskies which are even higher due to domestic demand.
>>14822472
I can't even go through 1 bottle a month outside of Four Roses or Wild Turkey maybe.

>>14820680
>a great whisky for getting into whisky
When people say this they always recommend a mixing whisky that could only conceivably be enjoyed neat by someone who inherently loves whisky (even the bad stuff), or they recommend a super light scotch with no flavor.
If you want to get into whisky try something top shelf with moderate intensity. An 18 year old Speyside, or a distillers edition with an age statement from any region. And move down in price from there.
The bottom up approach sends would be drinkers packing after their first dram, and only people willing to take 10 pieces of bad advice ever get anywhere.
>It's expensive
Yes, yes it is.

>>14820184
Iodine and ash, sure.
Salt? no. That's more Talisker.

And Ardbeg is even further from briney.

Damn good Irish whiskey if you have the means I highly suggest this bottle

>>14824738
not him but maker's mark is inoffensively sweet and uses no rye, I'd say bottom-up for bourbon works just fine, but maybe something more middle-ground for scotch

doesn't matter how high-quality a bottling is if someone hasn't developed their booze palate at all, or if all they drink is mountain dew

>>14824787
I fully disagree. Not just is it boring as you have claimed, it's young and boozy too. There aren't many worse choices.

>doesn't matter how high-quality a bottling is if all they drink is mountain dew
Pretentious and arrogant.

>>14824738
I started with Laphroaig and loved it. Get on my level.

>>14824849
>it's young and boozy too
way to go, you've described all bourbon
maker's is softer than pretty much every macro bourbon. It's not a perfect choice but it's a better introduction than jack daniel's. Buffalo trace would also be valid, but half of the US doesn't get it reliably enough to consider

having a palate saturated with sugar makes it much harder to perceive the sweetness of spirits, pretension has nothing to do with it

Got some Buffalo Trace at Winco for $21 to see what the hype is about. It's about as boring as I expected given it's low-rye, so I can see why it's popular. Completely inoffensive. Not as boring as Maker's Mark, but close. There's just a faint hint of wood in there that keeps it moderately interesting.

>>14824864
>way to go, you've described all bourbon
And yet you're saying to spend even less and go even lower quality when it comes to Bourbon. And I said soft is bad. You want intensity, complexity, and no gaping flaws.

>having a palate saturated with sugar makes it much harder to perceive the sweetness of spirits
You're projecting. Nobody has this problem. Unless you're actually feeding whisky to children.

>>14824882
welcome to the pappy/blanton's hypetrain. The whole BT line is good bang for buck turned ridiculous by normies, collectors, and resellers
a friend with bourbon autism made me try some of his weller CYPB and it tastes like snickerdoodles, and not in a good way
just sweet peanutbutter
wheated bourbons are so fucking boring, I just drink rye if I'm not drinking scotch these days

>>14824888
You sound like you're describing what YOU want, not what a whiskey novice would want. Believe it or not, soft and ambiguously sweet is very approachable and is 90% of the reason buffalo trace is so successful.

>You're projecting. Nobody has this problem.
I work at a distillery, and several of my co-workers had this exact problem, they hated whiskey until they stopped eating/drinking sugar all the time.
Do tasting notes for a whiskey. Then chug a coke. Then do tasting notes for the same whiskey. There's a reason stella rosa is the #1 wine in america, and it's not because it's good.

>>14824914
Bourbons typically aren't flavorful/interesting enough for me until they have at least as much rye in the mash bill as Old Grand-Dad 114, a favorite of mine.
A notable exception is Woodford Reserve Double Oaked, because it's oaky as shit and I love me some oak.

>>14824958
Also, yeah, imma say it. Fuck it.
Old Grand-Dad 114 > Four Roses Single Barrel
And I love FRSB.

>>14824939
Approachable isn't good enough. Water is approachable.
And I still drink coke. Often right before / after neat whisky because people buy rounds. The sweetness of whisky is also besides the point. If that's what you want then you're better off with mountain dew because it actually delivers.
Whisky isn't as sweet as a dry wine. Or even beer most of the time. If your solution is give up sweet things so that you can taste more sweetness in whisky then fuck that, it's not for you.

>>14824914
>yall got any weller? :)

>>14787863
I do not hate Maker's Mark but I find it tastes too little for the price. It does not taste bad but it does not taste very good either. I would rather buy Bulleit if I'm buying bourbon in that price range.

>>14787837
I would say that Glenlivet 12yo or Glenfiddich 12yo are good places to start with scotch. Note that I am saying this as somebody with limited knowledge myself.

>>14824853
I started with laphroaig and hated it. Then the next nighf I tried it again. Repeated a few times until I warmed up to it. After that, pretty easy to appreciate all whisky.

What level am I on?

Any Irish anons know where to get scotch at a decent price everywhere I either has only a okay selection or ordering from the UK with 30 euros tacked onto the cost.

>>14826202
You're beginning to believe

>>14824961
based and granddad pilled

>>14787837
Get a bottle of Johnnie Walker Black for about £30.
You can get Johnnie Walker Red for about £16 - 20, and it's still nice, but Black is nicer.

>>14800368
>How long one does (1) one bottle usually last you? Let's say a bottle of 750ml.
About 8 hours.

Is this worth it?

>>14827462
yes and no? if you have a chance of snagging a sample do it, if you are thinking of buying a whole bottle I would say getting a kavalan within that price range is much better in terms of wine influenced whisky experiance

>>14827462
Yes, especially if you're buying a whole bottle. I would definitely pick this up instead of anything from Kavalan

>>14800020
I need to buy another bottle of this. I remember it having a nice cocoa and cherry flavor, with good rye

>>14827512
I have the kavalan single barrel and it's good but it's a little raw on the palate

>>14827803
I know you're memeing but I can get it for around $200 where I live if anyone else has legitimate opinions

>>14827962
I much prefer kavalan wine finishes, but I get what you mean they can be pretty overwhelming, parliment is definitly more settled and tame, but it still loses in terms of complexity, idk if I would go for it at that price but then again, time and time I learn here how fucked is america in terms of scotch pricing.

>>14816572
Genious

>>14790179
>poster posts about rye
>assblasted euro immediately cries about bourbon
Sad!

>>14797510
Usually kirkland booze is rebottled booze from some other brand

r8 my haul

>>14828396
Solid entry level/10

>>14828396
Let me know how that MM cask strength is

>>14828575
not my favorite cask strength and a little thin feeling, but tasty and i got it for 41 bux

Just got this bottle yesterday. I’m new to the whole scotch thing. No idea what I’m doing. Like bourbon, rye, and most Irish whiskeys though.

>>14800368
Alcoholic here, 750ml of whiskey is like 1-1.3 days. Trying to recover but keep failing. Kinda dying but have adapted using a high saturated fat died which protects your liver so not dead yet.

>>14828742
>a high saturated fat died which protects your liver
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29844096/

>>14828396
Based and oak pilled.

>>14828782
Imo if it's oak you're after your still better off with a scotch, just look for something using a bit of European oak. Like Compass Box Spice Tree.

>>14828115
Overwhelming it neither true, nor the issue.
The spirit is too young and the prices are too high.

>>14827157
Johnnie Walker Black is terrible for £30 in the English market.
Just looking at Tesco right now you can get Laphroaig 10, Glenrothes 10, Old Pulteney 12, Bunnahabhain Stiùireadair, Penderyn Madeira, Aberlour 12, Glenmorangie 10 for 30£.

As an Australian who has price parity with Jonny walker black ($54 AUD), the rest all cost $90 here (50£) and they are mostly worth it. You'd be insane to pick Johnny Black at that price.

>>14787837
Did Laphroaig run afoul of some gay EU truth-in-advertising law or something?

>>14828987
oh no, it's one of those retarded guys that see only age statements. 7-11 years is the age of kavalan, and it's in fucking tropical climate more than enough. Go choke on shitty 40 yr old glenfarclas

>>14829344
7 years is an age statement. I've had great 7 year olds. They weren't boozy though, which means they were actually ready to be drank.

>>14788617
WT101 is already so rye-forward that the straight rye version is redundant.

>>14828396
Next time spend just as much on fewer bottles. Time to graduate.

>>14829341
What do you mean? Reporting tenths is standard.

>>14798380
OVERRATED DOESN'T MEAN "BAD"!

>>14829360
>I've had great 7 year olds

Anon, no!

>>14829555
It used to say "The most richly flavoured of all Scotch whiskies."

>>14829575
Maybe they changed it because it's wrong.
It's not even a favorite of mine, but when I think of "richly flavoured" I think of Lagavulin way before Laphroaig. That shit has a deep, intense richness to it, like smoked oysters.

My picks for mid-shelf bang for the buck
>bourbon - Larceny
>rye - Bulliet
>mixer - Two stars

>>14797640
>>14787863
This Anon has it. 46 is good, but their regular stuff is not worth the money.

>>14829565
Checkout pic related. A blend of one year old bourbon and 3 year old scotch.

>>14829565
Or this Auchroisk bottling.

>>14830051
6 year old

>>14829565
Or this old Ardmore, coming in at 8.

>>14787837
I love me some bourbon and Bulleit is my go-to for cooking and sipping, but buy some JW Double Black from time to time.

Tried Hibiki 17yr once and it was probably the best I've tasted. Smooth and buttery.

>>14790037
I agree with this anon >>14793175
Green Label is really nice and is pretty much a more budget friendly version of Blue Label. Just a nice scotch to chill out with on a comfy night.

Man I’ve been drinking bourbon and scotch with my friend and his dad off and on for the past two weeks, it’s really cool trying out stuff from his vast collection (including some really hard to get stuff ranging in the $300-$400 range) and we all seem to agree that Wild Turkey’s Rare Breed Rye is pretty solid. Where can I get some decent whisky drinking glasses like the one in pic related?

>>14828396
Double Oaked is pretty nice, I just got a bottle of that for a friend and it’s got a nice sweet, smooth taste to it.

>>14830113
That's called a Glencairn glass. I got a pair on Amazon for like 10 bucks a while back.

>>14828742
Fuck I drink Jim Beam 1.14 litre in 3 days, I guess I'm an alcoholic

>>14830125
I'm shocked by the lack of Chinese knockoffs. I don't need crystal glass.
And on top of that it turns out they're not even nice to drink from and I should've gotten a copita instead.

>>14830142
redpill me on copitas
give me a quick rundown

>>14789712
I like my drinks cold. Sue me.

>>14830113
They're called glencairn glasses. You can find them online or in just about in any store where you can buy quality glassware.

>>14830125
Thanks anon! I’ll try to get a couple on there, I’m really enjoying getting more into trying nice samples of these.
On another note my friend’s dad had this excellent Boone County bourbon as well, I have no idea how much it costs but it’s easily one of the best I’ve ever tried.

>>14830145
I have not found much of a difference between the deferent tasting glasses. All of them make whisky smell less boozy, which impacts taste.
The reason I don't like the Glencairn is because the lip curves out, which means you need your nose to the ceiling to sip the last bit of your dram. I find this is less of an issue with a Copita.
Conversely wine glasses are an ongoing expense because of how fragile they are, and my Glencairn is fine after being dropped a bunch.

>>14830125
>>14830175
Just bought this set, thank you guys.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08BKHTPCW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_l5QDFbGP2BGCX

I’m really starting to enjoy smelling good whisky as much as I enjoy drinking it (if not more so).

>>14830142
The crystal glass is fun to flick when you've finished your dram. It makes a pleasant sound.

>>14787837
I stopped by my local grocery store earlier today, and they had Glenmorangie 10 on sale for $35USD, $11USD off their normal price.

So, I bought a bottle. How'd I do, price-wise?

>>14830206
You mean this?
http://amzn.com/B08BKHTPCW
(See what I did there?)

>>14830322
in TX, 36 bucks is the standard price, but sales on liquor are disallowed
so you did just fine

>>14830618
>in TX...sales on liquor are disallowed
Excuse me, what? Spec's definitely has price markdowns. A lot of promotions for bars and restaurants are disallowed, though, like "buy one beer, get one free".

Which is better:
Laphroaig QC
or
Lagavulin 12 2018

is it bad i drink whiskey out of a measuring cup?

>>14826202
This was my experience. I'd never bought myself a bottle of scotch before, so I grabbed Laphroaig. The first sip punches you right in the sinuses, but once you know what to expect, it's quite good. Definitely a sipping whisky.

If I like Mezcal and bourbons, will I get into peaty Islay's?

Is there any budget Islay to get me started?

>>14832030
Laphroaig 10 is budget, quite good, but also the deep end.

port charlotte islay barley is ~$20 more expensive where I'm at, but I hear it's a good one that is less intense than froggy

>>14830322
Even my ripoff store sells Glenmorangie 10 for $34. I don't think you got much of a deal but you did get a good scotch

>>14830915
Sorry, I meant coupons.
And specs only marks down their in-house brands, same as total wine, since everyone pays the same for veuve/macallan

>>14832030
Good islays start at ~50
Peat Monster is a good place to start if you don't want to go balls deep on ardbeg/laphroaig
Ledaig is good too

Pic or else I'll get ignored, I can feel it.

Which is better:
Laphroaig QC
or
Lagavulin 12 2018