/ck/ - Food & Cooking

EAT THE BUGS

>>14786468
The average human being eats over a pint of feces a year, stop acting like a few bugs are yucky and you're above eating them

>>14786474
source?

>>14786474
you can eat a literal pint of my shit in one sitting, pal

>>14786483
guarantee you that anon pulled this bullshit statistic from some askreddit thread

>>14786431
>2 billion people around the world already eat bugs
What is this estimate based on? As far as I can tell, it originates here: http://www.fao.org/3/i3253e/i3253e.pdf where it's stated like a fact twice without citation or explanation.

Who is pushing this eat the bugs narrative?
Is some rich asshole out there promoting bugs so he can keep all the steak to himself?

>>14786534
You really gotta wonder (((who))) could be behind this

>>14786521
Those 2 billion people worldwide are easily majority 3rd world shithole countries where they have to eat that shit to survive.

>>14786474
that number's skewed by India alone though

>>14786431
NO.

>>14786468
NO.

>>14786474
NO.

>>14786534
A retarded Swedish girl.

this is why i hate economists
we should band together and abolish economists

>>14786534
>Cheap to produce
>Shelf stable
>Can easily be manufactured into a variety of produce
You would have to be crazy not to try to force people to eat them
>Animals require vaccination which is expensive and their health is subjected to rigorous controls with high fines for those who ignore it, they require a lot of space compared to bugs, the require special feed, there needs to be several plants to butcher them and trucks that keep the meat frozen, you need a lot of people working on those plants

This makes me feel like people in the past were quantitatively richer than we are today. They could eat actual whole COWS, and now we are not allowed to eat them. What is going on? Is soylent green (the people kind) about to become reality?

I will not eat bugs. I will starve myself to death. I don't give a fuck about your economy. I will starve myself to death first. Fuck you and go fuck yourself.

>>14786601
That's problematic, sweetie.

YOU WILL EAT THEM

>please bro 2 billion people already eat bugs bro. it doesn't matter if they live in 3rd world countries bro, eating bugs is the future bro please. you can't eat food anymore bro you need to eat bugs because poor brown people eat bugs bro please.

>>14786603
not if i'm dead

which i will do with pleasure

>>14786561
Yeah that's the implication, but what I'm saying is I doubt it's that high even if it's just food-poor countries. I mean, I've gotten people to admit to eating dog, alligator, guinea pig, and other weird shit, but never bugs. If it were really that common (2 billion!), I think I would have met at least one immigrant who has eaten a bug and is willing to talk about it.

>>14786617
I've eaten deep friend tarantulas before, they're delicious. Its like eating a soft shell crab

>>14786431
The future will be meat grown in bioreactors. Or widespread escargot farming.

>>14786617
alligator is pretty fucking good, kind of like a chicken taste with a soft steak consistency. not eating bugs tho

>>14786592
The environmental reasoning is sound and I would genuinely be up to incorporating bug protein into my diet unprompted, but zealous push from Silicon Valley types is suspicious as fuck.

>>14786593
Only on earth. On Mars and in the wider solar system, men will still eat and live like free men.

>>14786483
my ass

>>14786474
Even if you acidentally ingest it by water or food, you still wouldn't want to gobble down a bucket of feces for dinner, would you? WOULD YOU?

>>14786689
>The environmental reasoning is sound and I would genuinely be up to incorporating bug protein into my diet unprompted
Imagine a world in which bugs are not only present in each product in you local grocery store, but are in fact a main ingredient? A world in which GMO insects are mass produced and forcibly introduced into people's diets? Would you really wish to live in such a world?

>>14786783
Yes to bug protein. No to mass production and forced consumption.
The water savings alone are enormous and I don't want to have global thermonuclear war over the Great Lakes and other water resources.

>>14786783
Actual dystopia movie tier, but sadly it's increasingly probable that it's our future. Just look at how corn and soy monocultures have made their way into nearly every mass produced processed foodstuff. It probably won't start with cockroach candy bars a la snowpiercer, but with "Natural Chitin Extract" or whatever bug-derived ingredients these massive food corporations will cook up.

>>14786815
You really think you got a choice on the matter? The multinational corporations will just continue to use the same practices they already employ! Do you not see what happened with GMOs? You don't really get a choice unless you are capable of paying extra for organic food, which most people can't!

Do you really think it would be different with this?

>>14786824
This guy gets it!

>>14786853
Imagine a world where industrial farming doesn't exist, be it beef or bug or bcrops.
People move back out of the cities to take up human scale farming.
Sustainable 100 mile diets become the norm.
We eat the bugs and don't have to nuke Canada to steal their lakes.
We also grow mealworms in big pools not for eating, but for breaking down plastic and polystyrene and we stop throwing it into the ocean like a bunch of savages.
Globohomo GMO merchants are all shot in the streets like dogs.

Is that so bad?

I don't fucking care what arguments or what angle you try to work on me
I will never eat that garbage and neither will anyone in my fucking family. If they do, I will slap it out of their fucking hands
Same with fake meat

>>14786899
Do you mean veggie meat or lab meat?

>>14786474
>The average human being eats over a pint of feces a year

They don't, this is one of those dumb "you swallow X number of spiders in your sleep" non-factual "facts". Thank you mr totally not malfunctioning fact sphere.

>>14786689
Nottice how it's economists not scientist promoting but eating and global warming and then they call me anti science for being skeptical

>>14786890
Why give up industrial farming just to farm bugs? Bugs are ONLY appealing to industrial scale farming since they're way quicker to breed and simpler to process than livestock, not to mention the lack of ethical constraints. The only reason the industrial farming complex doesn't replace all their herds with bugs today is because consumers don't want that (yet). But the second is stops being viewed as disgusting to eat bugs (read: the second the propaganda takes hold), industrial farmers will switch to more profitable bug production in an instant.

damn, where my soijak bros at? thought i'd see some in this thread. I can't post any since i'm range banned from uploading images

>>14786916
Uh
the science of climate change is pretty undeniable
If you're seeing economists pushing it instead of scientists it's because you're in circles that have already ignored the scientific and environmental arguments for the past 40, 50 years and they are considered short-sighted and greedy enough that only an economic argument will be convincing.

>>14786431
Just raise and eat chicken. hardly take up room, feed them some scratch and scraps, and get eggs and meat in return

>>14786914
>"you swallow X number of spiders in your sleep"
This always bugged me. Spiders are all ectotherms, but they're in no way attracted to warm and moist places.

>>14786916
Pop science convinced an entire generation to develop a cult-like obsession with cutting up sixpack rings.
Actual science made sixpack rings naturally degradable after legislation was passed back in the 90s.

>>14786928
>environmental arguments for the past 40, 50 years

Shut the fuck up, faggot. Go inhale Thunberg's environmentally-friendly farts or something

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kGB5MMIAVA

>>14786928
>Trust the science, bro.
>You're just short-sighted and greedy.
Purest pottery.

>>14786947
>the earth is flat
okay smoothbrain

>>14786952
Where did I say that, you faggot? Did all the bugs you love to eat ruin your eye sight?

i've had fried mealworms and crickets. wasn't too bad tbqh. i think i'd get sick of the crunchy exoskeleton texture if i had to make a meal out of it though

>>14786952
>DUDE I just LOVE the hustle and bustle of the round earth, it’s so GLOBAL and makes me feel like i’m on one of my favourite SPHERICAL OBJECTS. You should totally come on down to my penthouse apartment, it’s got EVIDENT CURVATURE OF THE EARTH and everything, we can crack open a nice fluoridated water or three and get crazy watching some ted talks on their free streaming app! and dude, dude, DUDE, we have GOTTA go down to the natural history museum- listen here, right, it’s a MUSEUM where us LEARNERS who do LEARNING can go LEARN. BUT!!!! it’s also about NATURAL HISTORY like when we evolved from lesser lifeforms, so we can discuss awesome THEORIES, without dumb denialists bothering us. speaking of which megan and i have finally decided to get shot- literally -we’re both getting free flu shots tomorrow at the hospital, that way we can take fewer sick days and earn money to spent more on ourselves and our BOOK COLLECTION. i’m fuckin EDUCATED man, i’m gonna EAT this iodized salt and not develop a goitre!!!

>>14786948
Don't trust, verify. That's the scientific method in a nutshell.
Through decades of verification, it has been shown conclusively that we've fucked up the planet. Anyone telling you otherwise is a shill for an industry that fucked up the planet and doesn't want to face consequences.

>>14786958
>>14786960
I will happily reference the little known image of the post known as >>14786947

>>14786960
hi heckin based russia :)))))

>>14786973
>posting a faggot wearing a "I hecking love science" shirt means you can just make up random bullshit nobody said

Shut up and eat your bugs, they're getting cold

>>14786960
>iodized salt
Based, should have been drinking fluoridated water instead

>>14786431
The people pushing this kind of shit are welcome to taste a bullet.

>>14786961
They're typically eaten as a snack food in most places. I can't think of a single backwater SEA country where they're considered a main dish.

>>14786964
Al Gore is on the payroll of both Apple and Google. Both sides of the argument are pushed by people and companies that make money for shilling their own side. Science can be and is very often biased and paid for.
Besides, going back to the "sixpack ring" example. The science-based environmentalist solution of making the rings solar degradable just ended contributing to yet another environmental disaster in the form of microplastics in the water. The legislation lead to a reactionary move that was short-sighted because people had pushed for action to be taken thanks to fearmongering and emotional propaganda.

Using phrases like "we've fucked up the planet" really just makes you seem like the unreasonable one here.

>>14786574
Eat the bugs bigot!

>>14786997
>earth flat
okay retard

Thank you for for following the arrows and preordering the microchip, sir. Here's your fresh plate of bugs

Provided they are nutritious and prepared safely, what is wrong with eating insects?

>>14787174
Taste like shit

>>14787177
Not necessarily

>>14787174
They're mostly guts and chitin, with little actual meat. Most places around the world where they eat them, they're heavily seasoned and spiced. They're also eaten almost exclusively as a snack food and there isn't a single developed country where they're considered a main dish or substitute for actual meat products.

Why always with the bugs?
Would a push for a heavier diet of poultry rather than beef/pork/etc not do any good? Fowl are less environmentally iffy and take much less space, no?

>>14787224
One of the main concerns is the environmental impact of chicken shit, but since it's probably the best nitrogen replenishing fertilizer it's kind of a moot point.

>>14786905
Veggie "meat"
Lab meat can be alright as long as they do it like they should

>>14786431
Yes, I don't know why are you posting that fossil.

>>14786760
I would just to get my yearly quota out of the way

>>14787224
Even pork isn't that bad. Beef and lamb are the worst offenders.
I wouldn't mind eating arthropods if they cost the same and are as available as other protein sources.

>>14787224
Because the intention is to demoralize and desecrate, not to optimise efficiency.

>>14786707
>implying we will have animals as they are on earth in non-earth environments

>>14786943
They still take months to break down and turn into micro plastics that animals consume

>>14787427
Asshats were able to transport Eurasian flora and fauna across hundreds of miles of ocean and make them flourish centuries ago. A McChicken on Mars using 100% Martian chicken is going to taste the same as a McChicken back home.

>>14787438
Yeah, I mentioned that later in:
>>14787021
Best laid plans of mice and men, road to hell is paved with good intentions, etc.

>Food made from bug powder? That's just gross and weird!
>Gelatin made from cow bones? Bee vomit? Rotten milk? Rotten, moldy milk? Yummy!
Please get an actual reason to oppose this shit instead of this shitty kneejerk emotional response

>>14786960
>crack open a nice fluoridated water
most canned water is reverse osmosis filtered

Bug protein would be a good way to feed the homeless, no?

You already eat bugs all the time. Produce has bugs in it, when fruit flies come out of something, their larva was in it when you bought it. All processed food has some bug parts in it, and just has to stay under a certain amount

>>14786431
We already experience a "bug death" due to the climate crisis.

And now libshits want to EAT insects?

Yiked and oofed.

>>14786521
>China has 2 billions living in retardism
>therefore, 2 billion people eat bugs

Not rocket science.

>>14786431
I'm from Buenos Aires, and I say eat em' all!

>>14787546
>feeding the societal leeches and mentally ill

>>14787491
Chickens would do very well in Mars. In the lower gravity they could fly with ease, soaring to dizzying heights.

>>14786431
The democrats will have people eating hair and sawdust given the chance.

>>14786468

>>14786474
>>14786483
He's saying we listen to bullshit all the time.

So essentially, we eat shit.

>>14786431
You now remember THAT scene from Snowpiercer

I've had worse

>>14786431
I will not do it, but I'm sure they will find a way to mix bug flour into my food.

>>14787764
There are bugs in your flour already.

>>14786431
Unless this board is inhabitated by third worlders in disguise, saying that bugs will be the necessary staple diet for the First World is not correct. Yes, tons of food gets wasted every year and, yes, it could feed everyone, but then one has to remember that the amount of food thrown away in those tonnes you could serve in good faith to a human being slashes the tonnage by half (and a milion or so people would already be left foodless), add the fact that you can't realistically make a supply chain that basically does TooGoodToGo on a global scale, as it would have an enormous cost literally no one will take up and it'd be almost impossible to avoid spoiliage, and you get an idea why selling bug flour becomes appealing: it's cheap, it doesn't spoil, it can turn a locust Attack right on its head, will only have a tiny market elsewhere that's not in food-endangered countries (as evidenced by the past three years of fearmongering and joos blaming), and due to that it'll make for some incredible PR.