/ck/ - Food & Cooking

costs twice as much as meat and is less healthy for your body

>>14706734
I've had boca burgers before and they weren't terrible, I'd never take one over real meat though

>>14706734
burgers for proper sir's finally

I get vegan chicken patties. I like then with some ketchup.

>>14706734
You can make that argument for everything though.
>Why not suck a dick? Afraid you might like it?

>>14706771
That’s their marketing slogan

>>14706734
Burger is the only red meat available in Canada that doesn't cost $8 an ounce, so people eat burgers all the time to remind themselves what meat tastes like. Don't take that away from us too.

>>14706734
>plant-based
What's the carb count?

>>14706768
>I get vegan chicken patties
so not chicken patties?

>>14706734
My tits are big enough, fatty

>>14706734
>what, afraid you might like it?

I think those are weird because the are a "vegan" product but use palm oil. That harms my favorite animal!

>>14706734
I don't want bitchtits.

>>14706734
Bad, plain veggie patty like black bean, or Impossible it is

>>14706995
topkekku

>>14706734
too expensive. give me a pack of 10 for 3 dollars canadian (will never happen in this country) and i'd buy it

>>14706745
Source on the second part?

>>14707540
every medical journal ever written about soy

>>14706745
Real fish; 24 dollars for a small cut

Fake Fish; three dollars for a whole bag

>>14706734
32% less fat than regular ground beef
i smell bullshit. would love to see what that asterix says

>>14707595
kek you’ve outed yourself as a flyover with that post bud

>>14709738
I looked it up. It’s just three sets of parentheses.

18 grams of fat per 120 gram burger = 15%.

>>14709759
But fat is good for you, if it isn’t why are avacados healthy?

>>14709759
>parentheses
i can lierally buy 12% fat ground beef in any shop, why would i buy premade vegan burgers that cost way more if i wanted a low fat version? (I'd do neither because it's a friggin burger and i want fat in a burger)

>>14709748
I live near the beach but it doesn't matter since ite the internet and I'm not posting the full details of my location for strangers

>>14709823
You’re either lying about seafood prices in your area or where you live so it doesn’t matter you’re a liar either way.

I'd rather pay less for a product I already know tastes good.

>>14709822
Because it's not disgusting, planet ruining beef.
Pork is cheaper, healthier and tastes better.

>>14709832
I saw the tag and it was definitely 24, but it was from a butcher

>>14709839
>butcher
Just stop, you’re embarrassing yourself

>>14709836
because soy is so good for the plant

>>14709852
Better eat soy yourself than to eat soyfed beef.

never had that but beyondmeat is better than actual burgers imo, too bad they have a fuckload of salt and saturated fat

vegans, fix this and i will buy your product even though it costs more

>>14709860
Who eats soyfed beef? Are you poor?

>>14706734
i've had the impossible whopper and it wasn't bad, but i'm not paying at least double for plant mucilage. i'd be willing to try bug patties because it's actual animal protein the body can effectively use

>>14709873
I don't eat beef.
It's not like you have a choice what your beef was fed.

>>14709866
How are you so braindead? Less salt and fat means it'll taste like shit. Stupid anime poster. Post your bussy instead.

I ate four beyond sausages yesterday, was pretty good

>>14709883
how about you make it with less saturated fat then.........................................

>>14706734
Pic related is my go to veggie burger but I will be willing to try that.

>>14709880
that's exactly what it's like

>>14709850
You're the one who asked, and yes it had the packaging that butchers offen use

>>14707084
monke

>>14709866
The owner of beyond meat isn't vegan, so more like it's the omnivores who have to fix it

>>14709917
>The owner of beyond meat isn't vegan

So he's just in it for the money?

>>14709880
kek what world do you live in? Sounds awful

>>14709908
You don’t get fish from a butcher, anon. You are clearly lying again. You need to stop this compulsive lying to a stranger on the Internet and get some help.

>>14709941
tell me why David sold it to me then? he works at the market and had it in butcher paper????? Butcher paper..... THE BUTCHER HAD BUTCHER PAPER!!!!!!!!!!!

>>14709953
Seek help

>buying fish at the butcher
do Americans really?

>>14709959
lmao im not the guy you're replying to just wanted to shitpost

Why on earth would you market your product as sneaky or manipulative in any way
especially a product people have trouble accepting already
i will never eat the fucking bugs and bug food and this just solidifies it

>>14709960
No they don’t. Anon is living in a fantasy land.

>morning star farms

>>14706734
Thanks for this post I needed some motivation to keep culling and butchering my male ducks.
They are fucking delicious btw

>>14709973
And you continue to deny reality. You’re sick, anon, and you need help.

>>14709927
What did you think???? How are you this retarded???You really need to be told that EVERY company is in it 120% for the money??
did you HONESTLY think for a second a company wanted to "make le world better XDD"????
Don't ever think that for a second about anyone. Not even fucking tesla or any meme reddit "let's save the world" companies

>>14709989
i knew there was a chance you might accuse me of being him, hopefully he posts again and clears this case of mistaken identity up...

>>14709997
I’m sure he will soon. At least 30 seconds after you made that post.

>>14709941
Here's your example

>>14710011
That’s a fishmonger/fish market, anon. Are you okay?

>>14710009
i normally like farming yous but im really not the fish guy, i live in arizona and hate fish besides deenz, stfuf..... plz.............. you're scaring me

>>14710011
>>14710019
You’re the one scaring me, anon.

This is the most popular board on 4chins it's not the same person

>>14709986
>eating meat to spite vegos and veggies instead of for nutrition
based

>>14706771

You won't know if you like it if you don't try it, bro

>>14709823

I accidentally posted my location to 4chan and some dude sent a pizza to my house. It was a bbq pizza with onions and jalapenos.

>>14710033
MROE HCEESE!!!!!!!! MORE MACARONI

>>14710056
Based pizza anon

>>14710057
You don’t have to go through the trouble of editing screenshots to keep up this facade, anon. The lies stop here. Be true to yourself and you will be set free.

>>14710045
I don't eat meat to spite them. I slaughter my own livestock to show them that its not required by law to eat animals raised in concentration camps. It's not easy to slaughter them but the males have to go or else they will constantly gang rape my females.

>>14710077
You raise ducks, anon? How’s that work out with their migratory patterns?

>>14710066
i like this back and forth

you are being Trolled epically.

>>14710094
No, anon. Nobody is being trolled here. You need to wake up.

>>14710106

>>14710083
Domestic ducks don't migrate. They can't even fly, they are too fat.

>>14710150
is that shoenice? Did he eat the duck whole?

>>14709934
Western Europe

>>14707549
Bullshit. The major consensus is that soy is actual healthy for humans
> hypocholesterolemic
> Phytoestrogen helps regulate estrogen production in women and act as bland substitution for women in menopause
> No "feminization" effect in pretty much any serious study

In some articles (weaks) they found a opposite effect of the soy phytoestrogen (which are affine to humans estrogen but not the same) lower the male estrogen production due toe substitution effect

>>14710171
No thats gold shaw. I do think he ended up slaughtering that duck. But mostly because it was getting too big to even walk. That duck was a FUH REAK.

>>14706734
>5.48 for two patties
I love paying for estrogen at a premium!

>>14710836
False. ORGANIC soy has been shown to have some health benefits for women. But if you eat industrial soy you are setting yourself up for some serious hormonal damage. Keep in mind the organic label may still leave you susceptible to some shady soy. If you wanna eat soy, you should grow it yourself and do research on the different varieties. I would use an heirloom soybean. Keep in mind that pests fucking love soybeans. I grew them mostly as a way to distract pests from my other organic crops. I would like to make my own tofu and soy sauce one day. The latter takes 14 months to make but you only need a drop to flavor an entire dish.

>>14710901
While I can agree that preferring organic food is a sensible choice what you wrote sounds like bullshit.

You need to provide some source on that

>>14710836
>>14710959
Fermented soy is okay, GMO mass produced soy is terrible for you and has residual roundup and other shit

Only get miso/fermented sauce/tofu, avoid edamame and soy additives

I'd rather rat bugs than this plant fake meat trash.

>>14706734
Slogan always came off as douchey. Doesn't help that it's for fake meat.

>>14707549
Forget about the soy, the 3rd and 4th ingredients in this are canola and palm oil. Overconsumption of shitty oils will ruin your health faster than soy.

>invent diet that wants to go without meat
>invent fake meat to replace meat

what the fuck was wrong with Tofu?
tried beyond shit and I would take fried tofu, egg or grilled legumes anyday

>>14706745
you have to keep in mind that non-soy meat alternatives have only come onto the market over the last decade and that meat prices are artificially kept low by the government with subsidies.

I've tried
Beyond: not great, plasticine aftertaste
Impossible: too salty
Pure Farmland: horrible, gritty texture with bad, off taste and aftertaste; easily the worst
LightLife: most similar to real meat in both taste and texture but still not that great
I'll try this one and let you know IMO.

>>14711359
The best veggie burger I ever had did not try to disguise itself as meat in any way. It had whole beans and corn in it. It was clearly made from scratch and focused more on celebrating the flavor of the plants as opposed to trying to make a meat replacement. If you want meat eat some fucking meat. And get some high quality shit treat yourself mofo.

>>14711285
Those are for omnivores.
I'm not even a veg* but you're retard

>>14706734
I wouldn't give a shit if this stuff wasn't as expensive as organic free range grass fed beef.
like wtf, it's $20 per kg here. what in the everloving fuck?

>>14706734
looks disgusting, what is wrong with black bean burgers?

>>14709897
how much does that cost? they sell them in four packs where I live. they're like $6 for 4 or something

>>14707549
sure, just name one about this product and we're golden

>>14706734
>trying to reverse psychology me into buying your product
Fuck off I'm not 10 faggots

>>14706734
>our 24635th attempt will taste good, we promise!

>>14706734
I am afraid I will turn into a fag like OP.

>>14707540
A ground beef patty and veggie patty will usually contain the same amount of calories but veggie butgers replace fat with carbs. Incogmeato contains all these extra fillers which includes palm oil and GMO soy.
This product is so obnoxiously gay, they’re advertising this shit everywhere for everyone when this should just be marketed as a vegan product.

>>14710836
shut up mutant tap water drinking sheep

>>14711900
>r-real fakemeat™ has never been tried

>>14711286
Government doing something good for once

>>14711286
>humans have been eating meat for 10000 years
>probably ate insects like most modern apes before that
>but clearly this brand new soy protein and veggie oil lab creation will replace meat while being healthier

Reminder that the obesity epidemic was caused by switching cooking with animal fats like lard and tallow to seed oils.

>>14712239
>Obesity epidemic was caused by plants

but anti-vegans say that a plant-based diet makes people skinny... now it makes them fat? which one is it? it can only be one body type.

>>14706734
>just eat the soy, you bigoted racist

>>14706745
Beyond Burgers are now two patties for $4 in bumfuck nowhere Montana, so yeah I dont think the price disparity is gonna last much longer.

I also have a hard time believing zero cholesterol with half the calories is worse for me than meat.

Either way, I eat both the fake (non-soy only) meat and real meat about equal. dont see a problem.

>>14712285
>but anti-vegans say that a plant-based diet makes people skinny...
who the fuck says this ever
kill yourself

>>14712377
Yes, they do say that. I'm just confused which one is it? Does it make them skinny or fat? Anti vegans are so confusing

>>14712285
Raw vegans tend to be skinny because it's difficult to hit TDEE with fruits and veggies alone. The obesity problem I was referring to is specifically the modern trend of frying processed foods in soybean, palm and canola oil. Society switched from animal fats to vegetable oils because saturated fats were demonized, but obesity and heart issues have only gotten much worse in the past few decades.

>>14706734
Because I still have not found a decent fake meat substitute. The people who say they like this stuff are doing it for internet likes or have not eaten meat in 10 years and forgot what it tastes like.

>>14712529
Meat lover here who went vegan, try the Boca Nuggets and Gardein tenders.

>>14712529
I dont expect them to be the same. for instance jalapeno cheddar burgers are fucking phenomenal with non-soy fake meat, but a more traditional garnish is a little lacking.

>>14712534
Vegan of 8 years here who broke veg and lost his depression in the process: you’re full of shit

>>14712643
Veganism helped me, I know it's not the same for everyone

I'm vegan and meat substitutes taste like cat food basically. I've only encountered some vegan hotdogs that were OK. I'd rather combine different types of legumes and mushrooms to concoct interesting veggie burgers than eat some highly processed patty.

>>14706762
THIS! I tip my hat to my fellow vegans

I prefer natural products over artificial manufactured goods.

>>14706734
How much of a seared bite does it have?

>>14712690
Only the impossible burger has a seared bite, but I do get more of the crisp char flavor from veggie patties than I do from beef

>>14706734
This stuff is good and it is funny when tards get mad about it. Having said that though, after the first 1000 or so of these threads we should have been done with it. Spamming BS goes on /b/ you meme-loving faggot.

>>14706814
You mean ground beef you retard

>>14706734
I love vegetarian food. You can make a lot of awesome stuff with lentils for example. I also like meat.

What I don't like is creepy hyper-processed fake meat made with questionable intent. You don't make fake burgers for vegetarians or vegans, you do it to try and normalize/proselytize the retarded religion you've built around it.

Beans aren't meat, soy isn't milk, margarine isn't butter and you don't get an opinion on what I eat.

>>14712825
>>14712804
>>14712690
How much are you being paid to promote your disgusting cancer causing frankenstein processed Meat Substitute™?

Fake meat is like CGI- looks good in a vacuum, but put it next to the real thing and the difference is often staggering. I like making a burger with a beef patty and a black bean patty, the kind I get are almost like chili and it works well with some grilled onions, cheese and some mustard.

>>14706771
>Why not suck a dick? Afraid you might like it?
yes unironically but at least I won't be a fag that eats fake meat

>>14709897
>meat lovers veggies

>>14707084
Based pongobro

>>14706734
No thanks.
I try not to eat highly processed food.

>>14714304
Ground beef? Like a burger that fell on the ground?

Yuck dude, wtf is wrong with you.

>>14706734
I don't understand why the the focus of vegetarians/vegans is to create meat replacement products. There are plenty of tasty awesome foods that don't have meat in them yet instead of promoting those dishes they focus on replicating the taste and texture of meat with these super processed food stuffs. Just fucking eat meat for fucks sake.

>>14714368
A lifetime supply of Rustled Jimmies.

>>14707093
Then eat less meat and more vegetables.

>>14706734
Who are you quoting?

>>14706734
>let's replace good old meat with overly-processed garbage
Why are Americans like this?

>>14714964
>>/jp/

>>14714368
Seared bite is a internet meme, the initial person may have been advertising but the people copying it definitely aren't

This is my favorite. I still eat only veggies most of the time. Meat subs are just for omnis.

>>14706734
Can I give this a more seared bite

This is the only vegetarian meat substitute I’ve tasted that actually tastes as good as the original product. Only problem is shit is kinda pricey specially when you compare it to its meat equivalent.

I had veggie burgers before and they're nothing like the real thing.

>>14706734
>>14712690
>>14712804
>>14715940
>>14716053

>>14711412
Agreed. I eat meat, though sparingly. It's a religious/cultural thing to eat meat rarely. I've been trying the fake meat burgers not because I don't eat meat but because I'm curious to see how close they get.
I've never made one of those cool-looking veggie patties you're talking about but I've had them. I strongly prefer them over any fake meat I've had thus far and often even prefer them to beef. It varies on a day to day basis.
I do make bean patties fairly regularly, though. Think vadai except patty-sized and made from cooked beans rather than raw. I add spices and herbs and vegetables and chickpea flour (to hold it together) and shallow fry to set. Really good, but doesn't scratch the same itch as a regular burger or veggie patty would.

I had one and it just tastes of nothing. I ate it in a brioche bun and the bun was all I could taste. that's my main problem with all these substitute burgers, the complete lack of taste even after seasoning.

I also had the impossible whopper which was better but thats because they cook it on the same grill as the real whoppers in all the meat juice.

>>14706734
>what, afraid you might like it?
I wouldn't buy anything from a company named after Satan.

>>14706734
Gay

>>14706745
fpbp
not interested in eating something that came from a lab

>>14711011
Source?

>what, afraid you might like it?

>>14706734
I tried it the other day with my roommates. Too expensive, but tastes pretty much the same as a meat patty of similar thickness (thin). Better off just going with a bold flavored bean burger

>>14706734
I've tried them I don't actually like them, the meaty alternative is way better. The only vegetarian food I like is food that was meant to be vegetarian in the first place. Trying to convince meat eaters to eat a vegetarian dish that replaces something they enjoy will never work.

>>14709836
I grind beef and pork together for my burgers, you can't beat me anon.

>>14714907
Half the vegetarians I know are obese and subsist on cheetohs and oreo cookies. Half of them want shitty processed burgers just like meat eaters.

>>14707084
To be fair before the palm oil kick the rainforests were chopped down for grazing cattle. The solution is to cull the humans, save the monkeys.

>Water, soy protein concentrate, canola oil, palm oil, methylcellulose.Contains 2% or less of natural flavors, potato starch, salt, yeast extract, cultured dextrose for freshness, apple juice powder (color), cornstarch, sunflower lecithin, vegetable juice concentrate (color), vitamin B1 (thiamin hydrochloride), vitamin B12, ascorbic acid for freshness.
yes i'm afraid of the damage it will do to my body

>>14719734
>being a bigger pussy than someone who would willingly ingest soy product
oh no no noNONONONO

>>14709748
You've outed yourself as a poorfag thinking that there's no such thing as $25.00 fish. It exists and it's worth every penny.

>>14706734
waste of money
real vegetables are cheap
keep it

>>14719708
I am okay with this.

>>14710901
nobody eats industrial soy, in the EU its all organic. maybe in the US of shit they feed you literal cattle poison.

>>14720970
Not gonna argue with you that america has a shit food culture, but Europoors are definitely not free from shit processed food.

>>14706734
my friend had one of these burgers, they were giving them away in a free promotion outside of wal mart. He nearly threw up

>>14706734
When will people learn to stay the fuck away from food fads? Especially when they brag about being low/no fat?

>>14721231
SHART
IN
THE
MART

>>14710836
>>14707549
>>14710901

>>14721257
> I don't know what internet was meant for

> scholar.google.com
You fucking instagrammer

>>14719708
Cut down for palm oil and soybeans but keep telling yourself it's all bc of grazing animals vegan cuck

>>14706734
Look into what building is right over the street of their factory, you will understand quickly that this is no fake meat.

>>14716072
>stake
Fucking hell

>>14721296
your argument is irrelevant if you can't back up what you say anon, and DOOD JUST GO LOOK IT UP YOURSELF is not good excuse

>>14721593
All I know is I heard some holistic lady on youtube talk about health benefits of organic soy but even then I'm still skeptical and I generally try to avoid all soy products because I'm not an asian who has evolved to eat that shit. I could send you all the links in the known universe but ultimately you are gonna have to decide for yourself like the big grown up that you are, I'm just some anonymous troll on 4chan and if you take any advice from anyone on here then clearly you are a moron and you should go back to riddit where you belong.

>>14721593
Did you try it? Because you we can access the same sources and have the same knowledge of you just try it.

You wanted the source and I showed you where you can find them

>>14709836
>Pork is cheaper, healthier and tastes better.
fucking based
go on, king

The flavor isn't the only issue. I will only eat fake meat when its equivalent in price.

>>14706734
Soy stuff tastes like trash, not trying to meme just the texture feels off. Beyond and impossible are both fantastic

>>14707084
Sleep tight monkers

>>14709986
Raising animals yourself is more cruelty free then a good most of these vegan products, I'm sure your quackers live a great life

>>14721242
imagine being this butthurt over "mericans"

>>14711495
>those are for omnivores
wat?
fucking third world retards I fucking swear

>>14722369
My honk demons live and die outdoors on rotating pasture. They go in their giant coop at night and are let out at sunrise. I am only slaughtering my surplus males since ducks are rape goblins and from what I read the ratio needs to be 5 females per male. So the males that do live get to be ultra chad ducks with their choice of cloaca.

>>14706734
This plant meat thing is such a meme. It really doesn't taste that great and it isn't filling either. There's something completely missing from the taste and the substance. That said, it's definitely a healthier option than meat, and I would buy it more if it wasn't so ridiculously overpriced.

>>14711412
the "conventional" liver I buy looks nothing like that. Where The fuck are you from

>>14706745
>Source: My rancid, gaping asshole