/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>14674608
cross-contamination is absolute bullshit, just ignore that whole thing

>>14674608
Say what?

vegans are trying some weirdass tactics to push their agenda these days.

>>14674739
I'm not vegan faggot, just trying to cook healthier and not eat take out all the time

>>14674608
If your meat is of such poor quality that you'll fucking die if it's slightly undercooked or a particles of it touch your vegetables you probably shouldn't eat it at all.
If you have good quality meat, none of this matters, just don't leave shit out on the counters like a slob.

>>14674649
that craps just for people with food allergies and food preferences when you're working in the food industry

>>14674608
don't be lazy

>>14674608
cut your vegetables first and get a bigger cutting board so you arent' dripping meat juice everywhere like a retard

>>14674760
you can make a healthy meal with a meat. nig

>>14674608
One and two are legitimate, always prep your veggies before the meat. And clean off your tongs if you used them to transfer the meat to the cooking medium of your choice.
The rest is horseshit, clean you utensils and cutting board before you go to bed, the rest is good.

>>14674879
>you can make a healthy meal with a meat
did I say you couldn't?

>do NOT use the same cutting board for your vegetables afterwards
why the fuck does this matter if youre cooking the vegetables too lmao

>>14674608
don't you have an impossible whopper thread to bump or something?

It's not that hard bro. Whenever I cut meat I transfer it to a bowl then rinse the cutting board under hot water, squirt dish washing liquid on it, give it a good scrub, rinse off with hot water then let it dry off in the dish rack. For the bench just give a quick spray, wipe it off then rinse out your cloth well (which you should be doing anyway). Once you get used to cleaning up as you go this will all just become regular routine stuff.

>>14675232
then why you saying cooking meat isnt worth the hassle. that is BITCH TALK

>>14675393
I asked a question, not a statement

OP in here straight throwing a fit over his own incompetence. The answer is to stop being a lazy faggot and shut the fuck up.

>WAHHH I HAVE TO FOLLOW A MODICUM OF FOOD SAFETY, MAYBE I'LL JUST FILL MY DIAPER INSTEAD.

Get a clue, you manbaby puddle of shit.

>>14675440
im saying stop being a girl

>>14674655
korean beef tartare is more superior

>>14675498
who are you?

>>14674608
I only follow that shit with chicken.

>>14674608
Sometimes I cook two rare burger, eat one, and let the second sit in room temperature for some hours until I get hungry again and eat it.

Those aren't rules and I don't know who told you they are.
It's good advice and you would normally do those things, but there are often reasons you don't need to.
>vegetables can be treated like raw meat products EG. you're boiling them
>meat is sufficiently fresh and parasite free to be eaten under-cooked

>>14674608
Rotten meat juice is highly toxic

prep meat either before anything else and quickly clean, or prep it after everything else
cook until its done
use 2 tongs if its chicken
how is that hard?

they're for retards like you who needs rules in their lives because you lack critical thinking

>>14674608
If you're cooking the veg after it's been on the same board it's fine.
Only meat I'd watch out for is raw chicken, even then it's not going to kill you, you might just get the shits for a bit.

>>14674608
ok dude

>>14675498
But their languege is ugly

>>14676663
>use 2 tongs if its chicken
why?
also is it true that chicken causes more food poisoning than all other meats combined?

>>14678702
Probably but if you're not 90 or cooking for someone who's 90 who gives a fuck.

>>14674608
Never cared about any of that and I'm fine. Stop being a retard.

>>14678806
>Probably but if you're not 90 or cooking for someone who's 90 who gives a fuck.
because I don't want food poisoning anon....
last time I had it I was knocked out for the whole weekend, terrible experience

>>14674608
>>disinfect cutting board, countertop, sink after cooking with meat

Why would I disinfect my sink with meat?

>>14676740
Germs can't be harmed by other germs.
Humans can, however.

>>14678855
I was kinda kidding but following these guidelines to the letter is top notch living in constant fear unless you're a pro cooking for hundreds of people a day and a bad contamination could potentially effect them all. If I watch you feverishly cleaning shit over a steak I'm gonna think you're a pussy. Chicken, I don't really fuck around too much but I'd be kicked out of a restaurant kitchen in minutes for sure. It's just not as big of a risk as a lot of guys think it is. I've never experienced food poisoning desu, maybe that's why I don't fear it. Lack of respect for how much it sucks. Idk

>>14674608
>disinfect
Hot water and soap

>>14674608
>disinfect
Literally just fucking wash it as you would any other object.
>countertop
If you leave raw meat on it like a retard
>don't use the same utensils afterwards
Or just rinse it off quick before you use them
Takes like 5 seconds
>Use the same cutting board
I don't know who doesn't have a small and a large cutting board.
That said, I would imagine most of your vegetables will reach temp while cooking so who cares.

>>14678922
>I've never experienced food poisoning desu, maybe that's why I don't fear it. Lack of respect for how much it sucks. Idk
it's like an intense bad flu, comes on fairly quickly, you rush home trying not to vomit in your car
then you get knocked out and become so weak you can barely walk to eat ice chips as if you drink water you'll throw up again
otherwise you're passed the fuck out in a delusional state for 1-2 days

I probably got it from bad chicken at my schools Panda Express
never eaten at Panda Express again ever since

>>14674608
i find this post very islamophobic and anti-semitic, please delete it

>>14679165
>>don't use the same utensils afterwards
>Or just rinse it off quick before you use them
dead wrong, this will definitely transfer bacteria over

>>14674608
>>do NOT use the same cutting board for your vegetables afterwards
That's why I always cut the vegetables first. Really doesn't even matter though if you're cooking the vegetables.
>>do NOT leave out for longer than 1 hour once done cooking
Do you think this uniquely applies to meat?

>>14674608
It's really not that hard to cook meat. Some people actually do it every day!

>>14674608
Or just be like these children

>>14679217
If you do a shit job retard

>do NOT use the same cutting board for your vegetables afterwards
Easy, cut the veggies before, or don't bother at all if those veggies are going to be cooked anyway.
>do NOT use the same utensils used to handle raw meat on your dishes afterwards
This is a given. I use a utensil to geab the meat, use it to flip once and not again.
>do NOT eat unless properly cooked to an internal temperature of 165 F minimum
Beef chunks don't need this to he eaten, as per steaks.
>do NOT leave out for longer than 1 hour once done cooking
No, iirc it was 4 hours. Theres been times where I've left food out like an asshole for 3~ hours and it was perfectly fine, no fucked up stomach or anything. Raw, yes, put that shit away.
>disinfect cutting board, countertop, sink after cooking with meat
Meh, I just wash with hot water and soap, have never had a problem.

Most of these things are for restaurants as they can be held accountable for food borne illnesses not abiding by these guidelines: serve safe. You never know what kind of person you're cooking for and what kind of busted immune system, illnesses, disorders or diseases they have that an improperly cooked meal might push them over. Fucking retard OP.

>>14674760
Well you're being a complete fucking faggot about it.

>>14674608
None of it matters if you just cook everything. You're not eating raw vegetables, are you?

>>14674649
a toast! a toast to you!

>>14679740
>catches salmonella and dies

>>14678702
>why 2 tongs
>place chicken in pan with tongs
>let it cook on 1 side
>flip with the same tongs
>now chicken is cooked
>still use raw chicken tongs to move/grab cooked chicken
Yes, why?

>>14678855
>tfw never had food poisoning
I feel left out.

>>14679217
t. I don't have hot water

>>14679898
>>14679920
so now I also have to clean my tongs AND use hot water to disinfect every time I cook chicken?
Jesus fucking christ I might as well be running a meth lab

Wash my cutting board once a week and flip it over for vegetables/meat
On an unrelated note I've had diarrhea for days now.

>>14675498
No, you just are weeb kpoper end yourself

>>14679971
If its too hard to be sanitary, cooking isnt for you so stop bitching

>>14674608
I leave food out up to 24 hours before I put it away sometimes. I haven't had food poisoning since the mid 90s. fight me.

>never done any of this gay shit and never got sick
Must be some wh*toid shit tb h

>>14679888
>>14679740
pretty based. after some generations they can eat any raw meat possibly?

>>14680039
shutup groid

wash all your meats before handling and you'll be good

>>14674608
>do NOT use the same cutting board for your vegetables afterwards
i wash the cutting board in between uses. handy to have some hot soapy water ready in your sink
>do NOT use the same utensils used to handle raw meat on your dishes afterwards
what "utensils" are you using to handle raw meat...? don't tell me you're so afraid of touching raw chicken that you use tongs or a fork. just grab the thing with your fingers and wash your hands afterward you baby
>do NOT eat unless properly cooked to an internal temperature of 165 F minimum
a lot of meat and cuts you can eat rare, but yeah, to be safe you should cook to a high temperature. 165 is bullshit though--your chicken, among other things, will be dried out by that point. shoot for between 145-155
>do NOT leave out for longer than 1 hour once done cooking
... yeah?
>disinfect cutting board, countertop, sink after cooking with meat
are you rubbing your countertop and sink down with your prime rib or something? don't tell me you're washing your meat. please tell me you're not doing that

>>14679905
It's possible you've had it and just not realized it. I think I might have had some sort of food poisoning last Sunday from some chicken that was leaking in my fridge. It was really only bad for a few hours.

>>14680364
I suppose, but no time have I ever experienced any tummy issues other than a few times taking a dump.

>>14674608
All of this only applies to chicken, salmonella is a bitch.

>>14676391
Rare burgers taste fucking nasty i hope you get food poisoning you fucking chud

>>14679203
Food poisoning actually can take days to kick in, depending on the virus. Most people don't actually know what made them sick.

>>14679740
>inuit
>in any way normal
Might as well go tell chang to drink a glass of milk so you can laugh as he shits his guts out.

>>14680405
for mine I ate around 12 and got sick around 6

>>14674608
>>do NOT use the same cutting board for your vegetables
how else am I supposed to season my cast iron cutting boards?

>>14680393
Seethe, tastelet. Your cope is palpable.

>>14675393
Oh shit, it's BITCH TALK. Better not talk shit about cooking MEAT. I don't wanna be a BITCH.

I. ALWAYS. EAT. MEAT. MEAT. MEAT. MEAT. MEAT.

>>14675491
>
But I am a girl senpai uwu.

I'm prepping your meat now so you can slam my meat later > _ ^

>>14679971

Lol just don't touch things with the tools you just used to handle raw chicken. Is that difficult for you?

>>14680154
I like to wash my cutting board instead of the meat. I find the cleanliness transfers to the food more efficiently.

>>14680408
>Inuit not normal
>Chinese lactose intolerant
>Therefore humor

The fuck?

>>14680970
>The fuck?

>>14681065
Dunno where you're from, but that's a pretty common thing to say.

>>14681065
it's gonna be a good day when posting images like this is an instant ban
go ahead and quote my words with another soyjack. seethe for me.

>>14681162
Do yourself a favor and report every soyjak post. It's only the right thing to do, and if more than like 5 people used the report system, this site would be a much better place. People on /v/ have been convinced by the retards who post this low-effort shit that self-moderation (a.k.a. making sure the site you're browsing is actually fucking usable) is stooping to the level of the essjaydubyas.

>it's gonna be a good day when posting images like this is an instant ban
>go ahead and quote my words with another soyjack. seethe for me.

>Do yourself a favor and report every soyjak post. It's only the right thing to do, and if more than like 5 people used the report system, this site would be a much better place. People on /v/ have been convinced by the retards who post this low-effort shit that self-moderation (a.k.a. making sure the site you're browsing is actually fucking usable) is stooping to the level of the essjaydubyas.

>Dunno where you're from, but that's a pretty common thing to say.

>>14681257
>>14681261
>>14681269
Kek

>>14679971
well you should be doing that anyway
use 1 pair while the chicken is raw, after its browned put those in the sink and then get your second clean pair for the rest of the cooking

>Do yourself a favor and report every soyjak post. It's only the right thing to do, and if more than like 5 people used the report system, this site would be a much better place. People on /v/ have been convinced by the retards who post this low-effort shit that self-moderation (a.k.a. making sure the site you're browsing is actually fucking usable) is stooping to the level of the essjaydubyas.

>>14680970
>The fuck?

>>14674608
>>do NOT use the same cutting board for your vegetables afterwards
>>do NOT use the same utensils used to handle raw meat on your dishes afterwards
>>do NOT eat unless properly cooked to an internal temperature of 165 F minimum
>>do NOT leave out for longer than 1 hour once done cooking
>>disinfect cutting board, countertop, sink after cooking with meat
That shit only really applies to chicken. You can completely ignore it for lamb, pork, beef, other.

>>14674608
>tfw no cute thumbs-up-with-raw-meat gf

>it's gonna be a good day when posting images like this is an instant ban
>go ahead and quote my words with another soyjack. seethe for me.

>>14680970
>The fuck?

>>14680909
correct. dont forget it

>>14680970
>The fuck?

>>14680970
>The fuck?

>>14681162
>it's gonna be a good day when posting images like this is an instant ban
>go ahead and quote my words with another soyjack. seethe for me.

>>14681255
>Do yourself a favor and report every soyjak post. It's only the right thing to do, and if more than like 5 people used the report system, this site would be a much better place. People on /v/ have been convinced by the retards who post this low-effort shit that self-moderation (a.k.a. making sure the site you're browsing is actually fucking usable) is stooping to the level of the essjaydubyas.

>>14674608
Just cut your meat after your vegetables, you dumb cunt.

>>14681620
First thing you do. Always. Sear the meat.

>>14681733
I thought reverse searing was better?

>>14674608
Cooking with meat is easy, white people made it hard. Just stop being a sissy and cook normally you fucking faggot. To hell with cross contamination, mostly white people bullshit, the only thing i do is i use a separate cutting board if I plan to eat the veggies raw. I just don't want blood on my lettuce.

>>14681849
>bacteria is an invention of the whites, black people are immune to salmonella
must be why they eat all that fried chicken

>>14674655
F

>>14681382
>That shit only really applies to chicken.
chicken is absolutely not worth the hassle then, why do you retards bother eating this shit?

>>14682066
Because I like it...

>>14681849
das rite, preach brotha we wuz immune to salmonella n sheeit

>>14674760
I heard that Hitler was a vegan.
I don't know about that, though. He doesn't come off as that pushy.

>>14682126
He was a vegetarian and he despised drinking and smoking.

>>14682003
Ironically niggers aren't immune to salmonella because they too, eat from the same overly cautious food sources you whiteys eat from.

>>14682108
We actually wuz, 80% or something southeast asians had IgG against salmonella, explains why I can go out and eat at a random food cart and not get sick. It's just you whiteys and whoever the fuck you're babysitting be it the chink migrant or nigger slave descendant or the illegal spics that gets the shits whenever you eat legit good gado-gado. kys fags

>>14679203
is that the facial humilliation rich girl?

>>14674608
2 cutting boards, clean your knife. Not that hard you lazy bitch

>>14682126
>Let me abuse animals with disregard you pushy vegan

>>14684178
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>>14684284

>>14682170
But his drug cocktail was pretty fucking extreme. He just told himself it was to enhance his mind and body, not for recreation.

>>14684302
jokes on you, id eat dogs too.

>>14684325
>id eat dogs too.
oh okay then I have no problem with you then

>>14674608
>do NOT use the same cutting board for your vegetables afterwards
I just cut my vegetables first, then put them in separate bowls based on cooking time. It probably doesn't matter all that much what order I cut things in though since I generally stir fry and everything's eventually going into a hot wok. I use 1 big wooden spoon to stir it from beginning to end, cook by look & feel, and sometimes accidentally leave cooked meat out overnight. It's still fine the next day.
>disinfect cutting board, countertop, sink after cooking with meat
I really feel like you're being dishonest about the cleanup involved. Moreover I feel like this is some kind of false flag.

>>14674608
These are mostly rules that apply in a professional kitchen. Not for home cooks. The reason the rules seem stringent is the volume of food and revolving door of staff create lots of opportunity for fuck up. Additionally, food poisoning at a restaurant can be detrimental to business so they’ll do everything they can to avoid it.