/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>14655972
No

What's the deal with people leaving the sticker on their cha hai? I've seen it several times now.

If i want to get a Dayi 7542 to try is one from 2012 old enough? Or will it still be harsh?

>>14655992
>brit tea
Nothing of value desu

13 days shipping Taiwan->US. Which oolong should I try first?

>>14656768
Four season tea

Do you like tea?

Is it heretical to drink oolong with milk? I like the flavor.

>>14657015
It's fine, these is a reason why milk flavored oolong is so popular

>>14657028
I didn't know that existed

>>14657032
Calling milk oolong "milk flavored" is a bit of a stretch. Damn good though.

>>14656240
Shengs will lose most of the harshness within two years in most cases, shous will lose almost all fishyness with 1-2. A good rule of thumb is at least one year, two if the price jump isn't great. Any more than that you won't get heavy astringency or fishyness but you will start being overcharged for it since we are in a big bubble. 2012 should be great, if you can afford it.

>>14656747
there's no such thing as british tea you yank fuck

>>14656768
GABA tea.

Stupid burger here thats tired of drinking teabags that are only good when 50% of it is sugar, what do

>>14658079
drink better tea

>>14658119
no shit moron I was hoping to get recommendations for good tea

>>14658119
lmao the day is saved

>>14658141
I think the pastebin has some info for you.

>>14655972
Tea is probably lost in the mail. My suffering knows no end.

>>14655972
Lol you spilt your tea fucking faggot IDIOT

>get my silver teapot, don't drink tea for a few days cause my sleep cycle is fucked and I have more taste for scotch
>grab my gaiwan and brew some pu-erh as a sample
>Tastes incredible, almost like walnuts/ hazelnuts.

>>14655972
What's the best teabag brand? I've been trying a bunch, and so far my favourite is Yorkshire's. Also, could anyone recommend some hibiscus or herbals?

Didn't see it in the pastebin, but what's a good (preferably Japanese-styled) tea set to get? Should I go out and actually try and find one at an oriental shop, or should I just get one on Amazon?

>>14658779
Depends on what you want exactly. If you want an enameled cast iron kettle look on eBay for clearance ones from teavanna. They are made by a good Japanese company (collective?) iwashu and somehow end up cheap vs buying iwashu branded stuff.
If you want a traditional Japanese styled teapot look at the ones that Are being sold by the Japanese shops in the pastebin, look around on other websites. Amazon has a few okay pieces if you are willing to do some digging, oriental shops usually don't have anything exciting unless you are lucky.

>>14658678
>Best teabag brand?
If you live in the US try American Classic brand

>>14656768
Ali Shan

Looking to delve a little deeper into tea, really been enjoying some Twinings russian caravan loose leaf but I'm almost out and want to try something better quality.
Any recommendations on something similar?

>>14658983
If you live in the US check out Upton tea, they have a finest Russian caravan with a higher grade leaf than the standard blends, also their Robert Fortune blend.

>>14658991
I'm from Oceania, looks like Upton needs international customers to message them or something so I'll look elsewhere.

>>14658079
Trader Joes' English Breakfast is good by itself or with just about any food you can think of. Green box, pack of 60

Putting milk in hot leaf water is strange when you really think about it.

>>14659898
not really

>>14658857
>Japanese company (collective?) iwashu
iwachu?
http://www.iwachu.info/

>>14660369
Yeah thanks

I’m from here but I’m open to recommendations

>>14659898
Ok, Sartre

>>14661073
Get looseleaf Yorkshire gold

Anyone have any thoughts on Adagio Teas? They have a lot of different types but I was wondering if there's something a nub like me missed.

>>14661682
They aren't awful, don't buy flavored tea and you should be okay. They aren't generally liked around here because they sell a lot of flavored stuff.

>>14661720
I wasn't going to anyway, I was mainly looking at black tea because I don't have an electric kettle and I'm probably too retarded to get the temp right without one so I just boil it

>>14661331
Ok cheers I’ll try it

>>14661735
Yeah, black tea is good, try to get something Chinese and some second flush Darjeeling if they have it.

>>14662018
Was looking at loose leaf Irish Breakfast just because it's cheap but I'll keep this in mind tho

>>14659898
The weird part is getting the milk.

>>14662081
Iris breakfast is good if you like a strong tea that holds up well to milk.

>>14662103
The only tea ive ever had is great value brand tea bags so I'm pretty sure anything I buy will taste god tier

>>14662126

Buying all this tea that doesn't expire is making it way too easy to board.

Can you guys recommend any good Chai mixes to make/buy?

what kind of tea do you guys like for all day drinking?

>>14663965
Shou puer, once it isn't so hot out.

>>14663972
coward, during the heatwave over here I was drinking Shou and oolong when I felt like it, the ac was broken and I was boiling, but it was worth it

Does Matcha really require that bamboo brush and all that other equipment?

>>14664775
>Does Matcha really require that bamboo brush and all that other equipment?
No, but don't be afraid to enjoy a tea brewing ritual

>>14663965
Semi aged raw puer.
I just love how sweet and bold a lot of it is, I've never been one for subtlety.

>>14656037
If I had to guess I'd say based on the stickers-on-cap tradition it's an attempt at getting street cred from a bunch of tools that amount to nothing else in life than the items they bought.

>>14665237
Any tips on what to look out for/avoid?

>>14665900
Matcha is pretty much peak tea autism. If you aren't importing it freshly ground directly from japan from a known good vendor just don't even bother.

>>14665993
Close enough, there's a place here that imports it from Kyoto.

>>14666101
Nice, you are lucky. So you don't need the folded 5000 times bamboo wisk, or the handmade artisan bowl. But i guess they are nice if you get into it. Lots of people use one of those little stick milk frothers like pic related and a mug. Or just a regular kitchen whisk if you have one.

>>14666208
>Nice, you are lucky
It's way overpriced for what it is, but I'm glad it exists so I don't have to jump through a million hoops.

What are your thoughts on Japanese or Chinese “milk teas”?

>>14664775
Nah an electric whisk is fine. Some people say using the traditional whisk is therapeutic though. A lot of independent coffee/tea shops make matcha the traditional way, although I don’t think they use a sifter

Am I missing something about Matcha? Is it supposed to be so fucking bitter? Like it's a ground up green tea leaf so by making it aren't you effectively steeping a green tea way too fucking long?

>>14666534
>Is it supposed to be so fucking bitter?
Yes, actually. The matcha latte you get at starbucks is flavored sugar.

>>14666534
For some reason the first time I had it, it was amazing, and I usually hate bitter stuff.

>>14654959
from the last thread about clay teapots, meileaf did a clay comparison vid, n.b Zisha = Yixing
>inb4 meileaf REEEEEEEEE
i personally dont see the point of getting a clay pot unless you really like one type of tea and want to get the maximum experience from it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oam3sZtmIJw

>>14666691
Yeah I'm still pretty sure the may use of clay pots in asia is to mute weird off flavors from humid storage. Or sour notes in oolong, so I don't really think it's worth getting into clay unless you exclusively drink Hong Kong wet stored aged teas.

I love tea!

>>14666691
This just reeks of hogwash.

>>14666834
me too!

>>14656747
>brit tea

I ran some coffee pot cleaner in my electric kettle and now it's sparking clean! Pretty exciting it was a mess of rust and hard water scale before.

>>14657368
There is technically a “milk oolong” as well as common “milk flavored oolong” which has flavor added. I’m drinking my milk flavored oolong today and it’s good.

>>14667464
I'll be ding danged. Never knew of the latter.

>>14666926
There really are different clays with different mineral content, and different firing techniques that will effect how a clay pot will influence your tea. It's just a really insane rabbit hole to go down. There is a very strong market in chinq for pots made of specific clays from specific deposits that get expensive very quickly. The stuff on the Chinese Domestic market made with the really desirable clays starts in the $500 range and just goes up from there. There is also a huge market for antique pots made in the old state factories in the 80s and 90s. It's all just so inscrutable to a westerner and very little information is available in English.

>>14657924
next you'l say
>there is no such thing as japanese tea you yank fuck

About to buy some puer, should i get a larger quantity of newer tea (circa 2011) or a smaller quantity of older (circa 2006) tea? Assume the teas are of roughly equal qualities.

What is the best oolong and why?

>>14668488
my ooshlong

>>14668488
My favorite so far has been a high roast dan cong oolong. I need to try more though.

>>14667965
Tbh you're not gonna notice such a palpable difference between 9 an 14 years. Sure there is a difference, but it's not like young VS aged Sheng it's aged VS aged, if you're asking that you won't notice anything between them and just get whichever you want. It's your money. But we're in a very big pu-erh bubble, so no need to go balls deep.

How do you control temperature without a thermometer? Mine broke, and I want some advice while my temp control kettle arrives.

>>14668899
Bruh

>>14668899
I hear you can watch the bubbles to tell, but I couldn't really tell you any more.

>>14668899
I got this off of Den's Tea but I haven't tested it myself. They seem like they know what they're doing so I'd bet this is somewhat accurate.

>>14668899
Thermometers don't control temperature, they measure it. If you want to control it, just adjust the flame and the time spent over it.

>>14668980
>not editing it to have two stars
Come on Anon, that's basic.

>>14666446
Actually really love them, but NOT for something relaxing to do. I keep them in their own realm like with soda or other "on the go" drinks. They fill that role well, but to me it's a different beast than tea. And further, I will say that proper chinese brands are sort of gross to me. Japanese and Taiwanese brands are superior from what I've tasted.

why is this shit so expensive

>>14670326
It isn't. You're just poor.

Tea tastes like shit

>>14668899
which kettle did you buy

Despair not /tog/ for I have brought you what you truly desire I have failed you, Viciouska should be thiccer

>>14669360
How do I tell how hot the water is without a thermometer, wise guy?

>>14671047
Stick your finger in it

>>14668777
>But we're in a very big pu-erh bubble, so no need to go balls deep.
People have been waiting for the puer bubble to end and prices to "get back to normal" since 2004. Sure they corrected a bit once or twice, but the overall trend is prices going up up up.

>>14670348
It actually is. YOU'RE just poor.

turkish tea is shit
t. bought turkish tea

>>14670360
https://www.amazon.ca/Oster-Litre-Kettle-Variable-Stainless-Steel/dp/B0048BPWQE

being tired with the usual tea and life in general I decided to open one of the tea samples/gifts that I received with my latest orders
this first one is a light-ish shade of amber going a bit towards yellow-ish orange, the still-hot leaves have a distinct smell of tobacco and maybe a bit of legumes and look like mid-sized tie guan yin leaves, though the edges are a bit mroe jagged
the liquor has a clear rice smell, the kind you smell when you steam basmati or other aromatic rice, the taste is unremarkable, burnt greens and that's it, not particularly sapid, salty or sweet, and the aftertaste is a somewhat sapid, cooked greens taste
the sample was in the form of a small cake and from the looks of everything I'd say it's a relatively young raw pu-erh, it's not that good but the smell of rice is very nice, can you guys think of/recommend some teas that smell like rice?
>>14671047
you can ballpark it by looking at the bubbles, with just 1 minute of looking around I could find a wikihow article on how to tell the water's temperature without a thermometer, there are pictures of bubbles there to help you even

>>14671546
Thanks.

Where do you guys go for your milk oolong?

>>14671546
>can you guys think of/recommend some teas that smell like rice
I know there are some ripe puers that are flavored with rice, probably not quite what you are looking for.
https://yunnansourcing.com/products/2020-yunnan-sourcing-nuo-mi-xiang-ripe-pu-erh-tea-and-sticky-rice-herb
Also just noticed this which could be interesting, rice is probably beat out by the chempi
https://yunnansourcing.com/products/fuding-three-treasure-white-tea-in-tangerine-with-rice-stalk

>>14658678
Try Harney & Sons. I buy their loose-leaf 99.9% of the time but the bagged teas I've had from them aren't terrible.

>>14663250
I limit myself to three types of tea per order so my stash doesn't get too huge.

>>14671355
>no u
no u

what are some good ebay GABA oolongs?

>>14671546
>you can ballpark it by looking at the bubbles
Has anyone here tried this? Sounds interesting.

I grabbed some more tea. Really liked my last order from Kingteamall the storage is a great balance where its humid enough to age without getting any weird off musty humid flavors.

>>14671930
These guys aren't on ebay anymore but they started out there.
you even get your choice between balls and strips.
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/2018-gaba-tea-taiwan-high-mountain-tea-gabaron-tea-p0345.html
https://www.fullchea-tea.com/gaba-oolong-taiwan-tea-2020-high-mountain-cha-strips-shape-gaba-tea-p0647.html

>>14672142
I noticed a lot of the Chinese ebay tea sellers left ebay this year. I think that ebay was giving out refunds for orders with shipping delayed to due to covid so they probably got hosed on refunds.

Okay can someone redpill me on health teahouse shop on aliexpress? I know it's the same store as fullchea tea. But they offer dayis, mengku and other factory teas cheaper than anywhere else by a significant margin and they even have some black light checks of the watermarks so they're legit. But at the same time they have a giant melon 500g of something for like 12 bucks. Which, by the way, on a scale of none to Himalayan peasant, will contribute how much to my death by eventual fluorosis? Are they really good?

>>14673190
I wouldn't really trust any chinaman.

How does the caffeine in tea work. If I pour away the first brew will the next ones have fewer caffeine?

How many cups of green tea in a day is too many

>>14673217
Big same but then how am I supposed to get chink tea

>>14673410
Over 2 litres of it if you aren't exercising or aren't having a heatstroke.

>>14673190
>But at the same time they have a giant melon 500g of something for like 12 bucks. Which, by the way, on a scale of none to Himalayan peasant, will contribute how much to my death by eventual fluorosis?
Cheap weird tea like that is fine in moderation, no guarantee that it will taste any good.
>Are they really good?
I have ordered from them a few times and been happy with the results. Their prices are pretty good and I don't think they are selling fake stuff. They have a few of those "laobanzang" puer cakes that cost $12 or whatever that are obviously nit really laobanzang but they otherwise seem fine.
If you want some puer grab one of those xiaguan 2011 bulang cakes or the jingmai one, those are both a great deal. Those cheap 2007 menku cakes probably aren't fantastic just based on how cheap they are but they are probably serviceable. Also check out the the tulin cakes and tuos from around 2009 probably some good stuff in there.

So of the 2009 xiaguan cakes I bought a while ago the silver pine and crane is my favorite, it's basically just a number recipe cake with nicer materials and it has some fruityness that the more standard cakes don't have.
The 2009 FT 8652 is okay, very standard with smoke and resinous pine flavor.
The 2014 golden legend is also pretty good, it has some deep bitterness in there somewhere, also smoke and mellow aged flavor. It also has some powerful energy, makes you sweat and has some tea drunk effects, a little rough on an empty stomach.
Overall i like all of them, not sure if I would rebuy any of them, i would get the silver pine and crane if i could buy it for $40 a cake but it cost nearly twice that.

>>14674406
*2011 golden legend
Got these from Kingteamall btw. Great experiences with them so far.

Ive been drinking this expensive shit.. It's not very good honestly. I'm looking for my signature tea /ck/, whats somthing that taste good and is expensive?

>>14674535
okay, after looking up other teas here i am now realizing that my tea isn't expensive. I will lurk moar.

>>14674535
>whats somthing that taste good and is expensive?
Good and EXPENSIVE coming right up
https://www.mariagefreres.com/UK/1-traditional_french_cotton_muslin_tea_bag.html
For something more practical get a finum brew basket and check out yunnansourcing.com

>>14674569
this is exactly the price range i was looking for. Thank you tea anon, im going to look through and make an order. The Opera Blue is catching my eye, along with the Morning Glory. I'll take a look at the finum brew basket right now

>>14656037
i use one of these as a cup to drink regular water, my whole life i have had to drink excessive water to stay hydrated, i can drink a full one in 15 seconds. normal cups do not satisfy me. my thirst is unquenchable, the t2 cha hai is the one thing that has given me value in life

>>14674663
The marco polo is one of their signature blends

>>14674663
The brew basket is for looseleaf tea, you should eventually try to get into looseleaf if only because it's more affordable to buy fancy tea looseleaf than to get it in bags

>>14674663
real men drink grandpa style

is puh-er from upton not worth buying? I want to try some but don't want to wait forever for it to come from china

>>14671546
What-cha has a scented Jin Xuan sticky rice oolong that has a very pleasant rice aroma and a mellow flavor. It's a tea I like drinking when I'm feeling cozy.

>>14658079
go to yunnansourcing and buy some samplers and figure out what you like. go from there and enjoy brother. you will drink them gong fu style. 5g of tea per 100ml of water, very short steeps. all you need is a gaiwan or a -200ml teapot for gong fu.

Will you be celebrating the Moon Festival this year, /tea/?

>>14675683
>is puh-er from upton not worth buying?
Not really, it's expensive and lame
Check out yunnansourcing.us for your domestic puer needs

>>14675923
Why would you suggest that someone used to tea bags use a gaiwan aon? YS samplers are solid but they can just use a normal teapot.

>>14676911
I wish, but unless things change with rona I won't have anyone to celebrate with. Mooncakes are gross anyway.

>>14677453
>Mooncakes are gross anyway.
???

>>14674663
I bought the loose leaf earl grey french blue which was about 40 dollars to the US for 100g on Amazon. 10/10 tea, do recommend

>>14667417
It says it on the box idiot, "Great Value British Breakfast Tea"

>>14655972
I make my tea in a 2 quart saucepan. I hammered the bottom of it a bit because it warped (it's pretty cheap guess it has a tough time with the coil on high), now the lid won't fit. Without the lid it takes a bit longer to get the water to boil, any advice?

>>14677575
Start microwaving your water

>>14677581
I can't put metal in the microwave.

>>14677647

>>14677715
I'll try it then

>>14677647
Pussy.

What is the most powerful tea you have tried? I want to get my hands on some more teas with powerful energy, not just super jittery factory teas but ones that make you sweat and are either powerfully entergetic or relaxing and stoning.
The two strongest teas i have right now in that regard are the 2011 xiaguan golden legend, it instantly makes you feel heat across your body and has a pretty powerful energy.
The other good one i have currently is 2014 (2018) Three Cranes Brand “Ye Yun Gu Shu” Liubao Brick this one isn't as warming and has a bit more edgyness to the energy but it's still got some real power to it.

>>14658563
Just got a notice that it just arrived to the country. Nice.

>>14678039
Awesome, it seems like shipping from China is mostly back to normal.

>>14674696
Same. I drink from a 1l measuring cup, and usually I just gulp it down.

>>14674696
But did you leave the sticker on it?

>>14676911
AAAAAHHHHHH I wish I lived where they made that shit fresh. Fucken love moon cake.