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Jewish interventionism

The single time i tried out Postmates to get some taco bell or whatever, i got my food and the site would only redirect me to the driver to force me to tip them. Never used their site again.

>>14636315
Because other countries also actually respect the workers and dont make them rely on tips to make a living

>>14636424
>respecting the workers
lol go spout your commie shit elsewhere

>>14636435
Paying employees a reasonable a wage isn't communism you fucking retard. The fact that American waiters and delivery people get shit wages and have to rely on tips to make up the difference is the answer to OPs question whether you like it or not.

>>14636315
It's a filter for plebs who can't understand how to navigate society.
Tipping well, and being friendly, has led to me getting loads of free stuff, probably more than I spent on tips

>>14636494
So youre saying blame the gay community for making tipping normal in america. Got it.

>>14636494
>all male dining parties
where do I sign up??!

>>14636315
Because corporations have directed the cultural zeitgeist to make both employee and consumer alike believe that it is the consumer's responsibility to pay an employee's wages and not the employer's.

>>14636315
Because as a chef I know how nice it is to get them, and how im not a poorfag so an extra 10% of my bill in change as a thankyou goes a long way.

>>14636454
Thing is with this I tend to see vastly more instances of service industry people saying they would hate to get a minimum wage instead of tips, as they make significantly more money than their employer would likely pay them.

>>14636531
They go out to eat more b/c of more disposable income, and thus understand how things work

We have too many blacks and white trash that order delivery.

>>14636585
My disposable income isn't for some cucked waiter can stand there and guilt me into giving them a $50 tip regardless of my meal's worth. My income is what it's for, me.

>>14636315
We're developing country tier in our worker's rights, and only intend to make it worse as time goes on.

>Try to save as much money as i can during the virus down to the dollar anytime i order out
>Door dash sometimes does promotions for members like they do now
>Driver texts you to guilt trip you cause you got an amazing deal but wont tip

Should be fucking illegal to ask anything of the customer especially right now

>>14636637
>$50 tip
So you meal was $333? Or is math hard for you?
Maybe this is why anti-tipping spergs seethe so much. They just can't do math

>>14636637
that's the most fucked part of tipping is the expectation of 15-20+% based on how much you spend. as if the fact that i spend $200, you're entitled to $40 for less than an hour of "work"? you carried food to my table and refilled my drinks. ooooh! here's 15 bucks. fuck off and get a real job if you don't like it.

>>14636994
Then who would serve you your food? Somebody has to do this job, until robots get more advanced

>>14636315

I don't mind tipping but the latest obnoxious thing is the credit-card terminals with the LCD displays that ask you to "select your tip" from a few percentage choices... and at one place, the choices STARTED at 20%. And you can't "just pay cash" anymore to avoid this awkwardness, because "legal tender for all debts public and private" has apparently become meaningless since Kung Flu dropped into town.

>>14636315
Tipping is pretty retarded, but European countries have been the butt of jokes for having shitty, rude, and lazy waitstaff in movies as far back as at least the 60's.

>>14636994
>Thinks doing anything in a restaurant is easy
Restaurants are one of the most abusive, strenuous work environments on the planet. Most of the time you don't even get a lunch break and your boss yells at you for taking a piss. It's a tiring, demoralizing job and Karen-ass bitches like you treating the staff like dirt should be run over by a combine tractor.

>>14636315
tipping is a US institution because it was thought that black people couldn't get jobs or paid normally so we would tip them as it is our privilege to help freemen. noblesse oblige and all that. other countries didn't really have. there are some other things people do though like sinking that is usually to show off wealth. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_(behavior)

>>14637032
>other countries didn't really have
the whole slavery thing the same way

>>14636994
Servers are taxed as if 12% of their sales volume is made in tips. If you tip less than 12% then they have to pay to serve you

>>14637021
I dont think websites like UberEats or GrubHub understand putting the tip at 20% by default is a lot of money for mcdonalds or whatever the fuck is being delivered

>>14637026
Why is it the customer's fault that restaurant work is bad? To me, it seems like maybe the owner is the one who deserves to be bitched at, not a paying customer. Nobody is forcing them to work there you know.

>>14636435
>pay workers a living wage
>FUCKING COMMUNISTS!!!

Why do americans shit up 4chan so much?

>>14637068
Servers don't even pay taxes or cheat taxes, don't give me that nonsense. The truth is, it is an easy way for an unskilled worker to make money, and when someone with actual brains and IQ realizes he or she doesn't want to give away free money, these unskilled workers REEE like no tomorrow.

>>14636315
France forces you to pay gratuity like 15%

>>14637080
RENT FREE

>>14637026
>don’t get a lunch break
Lmao imagine not knowing your rights as a work you, letting your boss take advantage of you, and place the blame on the customer

>>14637091
It happens though, these delusional fucks actually think the customer is the one keeping them from making good money. Crab mentality these low IQ fucks have. Go pester your employer for more money, nigger.

>>14637082
>unskilled workers
>I work a job that requires me to suck the bosses dick and kiss customers asses while I sit on my ass watching spread sheets go up and down is 'skilled'.

I worked a high paying job, I know what it was like, it was far less 'skill' compared to what I do now. And entry level jobs in my career path are considered "unskilled". Stop calling jobs that do require skill unskilled, some servers and delivery jobs make lots of money and it's not their fault the boss won't pay them what they are owed for the labor and time put in.

>be a teenager
>get shitty service
>leave a shitty tip and a note explaining why
>go to the same place later
>get good service
>leave good tip
is it so fucking hard to do your job? Swear cunty waiters were the bane of my existence in high school

>>14636665
>Try to save as much money
>order out
How about go pick it up yourself? Or cook from home?

>>14636665
>>Try to save as much money as i can during the virus down to the dollar anytime i order out
>ordering out

>>14637114
Like you don't make mistakes at work?

>>14637122
Websites sometimes do coupons or promos or just general stuff for members. That doesnt mean order out every single day and waste all your money.

>>14637105
I own my own business, you projecting little shit. Waitstaff are unskilled niggers, just like you. Why do you feel entitled to money for moving food and refilling drinks? Why don't you get some actual skills, you dumb piece of trash.

>>14636315
because server wages are fucked up and they make most their money off of tips. if i'm not getting tips im not making money. full stop.

>>14636531
no we're saying blame black people for ruining the tipping culture

>>14637158
Judging from your language you don't own shit. A business owner would also be far more humble and libertarian and would agree that time put in, means equal pay out.

Someone is giving their time and energy to make someones business thrive and work within an economy.
If you do own your own business, then go ahead, start posting signs saying "I hire unskilled workers" see how that works out.

i would consider myself pretty left on most social issues and i can comfortably say that black people, regardless of their socioeconomic background, frequently do not tip at all if not very little.

>>14637020
This is dumb. I can literally place an order and pick it up myself.

>>14636494
jews do tip, they just only tip other jews
t. jewish

>>14636315
imagine being so degenerate that your order pizza instead of making it yourself.

>>14637193
How do you guys really tell? I mean sometimes it's obvious, but even the Nazi's generally had to like dig up records or shit. Same with other things. I worked with this MD and he was Egyptian (so he was shia or sunni, don't remember) and he confided in me that he won't take a patient who is the other sect, or if he is the only one available or has to because of laws, will do the absolute bare minimum required legally of him to not get sued for malpractice. I asked him how he could really tell, and he said sometimes you can tell by the name, Al-whatever, but he said that most of the time he could just walk in and immediately know. Still kinda bothers me because you can have people in the same town all over the ME be both, unless you know, genocide.

>>14636315
Unlike other counrties, the United States is not populated by autistic rude people, and we understand the concept of social grace

Aside from blacks

>>14637255
because america is a shithole and the people living in that shithole also are niggers

>>14636494
still not tipping

>>14637068
So can I bankrupt the wagies at a particular restaurant this way?

We have GST and a minimum wage. Plus we don't have the American Entitlement attitude.

>>14637255
American people are fake nice

Tipping is how the ownship culture makes poverty pay for poverty. Tip if you're a fucking asshole.

>>14636424
The workers are also fine with the system as is and make more on tips than they would on minimum wage. Anytime there's a movement to pay them min. wage there's pushback from them.

>>14638732
>make more on tips than they would on minimum wage.

That's not the point you stupid cunt. You should never depend on largesse. That's the lower class welfaring the lower class.

>>14638747
I agree, but that's just the reality of it. Restaurant owners love the system, the workers love the system, the government local or otherwise doesn't care, there's no incentive to change

>>14638757
And that's where the legal system needs to step in. Pedophilia might be great for some people but it sure as fuck shouldn't be legal.

>>14637026
>so, let's project someone else's problems onto random strangers
yikes

>>14637026

That's when a business shouldn't exist. If you can't do it right. Don't do it at all. No one will give a living shit. That's the entire point of competitive business.

>>14636494
So in conclusion, I should work at a gay bar.

>>14637032
get this /pol/ tier shit out of here. Tipping culture exists in the US because prohibition cut into the profits of restaurants that served alcohol, so they shifted the cost of their servers onto the customer. And of fucking course it stayed because it was a million times cheaper for businesses. And it still exists today because servers make much more money getting tipped than they ever would getting paid. I used to work for a kitchen that literally didn't even pay their waiters and just let them keep whatever they got tipped.

>>14638795
>management keeping tips
thats illegal as fuck in UK, but then again commercial kitchens are a lawless place

>>14637187
This is dumb. You don't have to tip at curbside service

>>14638806
everything they did was illegal. we all got paid cash every day under the table, and if the waiters didn't make enough he'd throw them something aswell. The owner hated it when people used cards because he was dodging taxes

>>14638810
nobody also has to drive to your house either do they

>>14638818
im conflicted by this behaviour because the guy obviously wants his business to stay afloat and he's trying any means necessary, but then he's being an asshole about it

>>14638824
It's not a big deal, he paid us fair. He was a jerk if you ever took a breather though. The most appalling thing was it was a really popular italian joint with regional awards where every single thing was frozen and microwaved

>>14637183
This is why relying on tipping is fucking stupid. If the staff NEEDS to work they NEED to pay them a decent wage. Don't rely on the generosity of strangers to do management's job because if a stingy nigger or asian enters the restaurant is makes more sense not to serve them at all.

Because in other countries we pay our waiters with wages...

>>14637032
It was a European nobility thing we imported you retarded racist fucking NIGT3R