/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>14577532
Dessert

>>14577532
Drinks

huge improvements already! keep it up!

I would eat here OP (except that Oregon selection), but it's gonna be a nightmare having such a varied menu. Just the kitchen and prep logistics alone give me a headache

>>14577559
True, I do think about that from time to time. America is just so vast that I might need to do a specific region.
>North East
>Mid West
>Deep South
>West Coast
>Texan (deserves it's own category)

>>14577532
You're going to have to work carefully with your beef supplier. KC Strip isn't a common cut (at least, not common more than 300 miles from KC), substituting the NY Strip would be inaccurate.

>>14577532
What happened to the Arizona Fish Tacos?
Maybe do Arizona chimichanga instead (Chimichanga was invented in Arizona)
also 8 slices of pizza is a lot for a single entree.

>>14577532
I thought Oregon would be something like pot brownies.

>>14577785
cali should be pot brownies and Oregon should be super soy sludge

it's too much. you should have, like, five main courses.

>>14577536
>Ohio Milkshake
how is that different from regular ones? you should make the milkshakes in malt flavors and call them 51 States Milkshake

It's pretty representative of regional foods so good job there.

My only gripe with this is that some of your dishes are not 'diner' food at all. I don't think I've ever seen pizza, brisket, tacos, burritos, or strip steak on a diner menu.

If your idea is creating an American themed novelty restaurant with the motif of an american diner then these items would be far more appropriate.

add Oklahoma Indian Tacos and you're good.

>>14577825
>If your idea is creating an American themed novelty restaurant with the motif of an american diner then these items would be far more appropriate.

Yeah, thats something I was going for. It's really hard to find one of these types of places outside the US.

>>14577958
No chicken fried steak?
How are your biscuits?
These are important questions directly related to the success of your venture.

>>14578011
>No chicken fried steak?
Which state?

>How are your biscuits?
They'll be served with the Nashville Chicken

>>14577532
I thought Kansas was more known for their bbq ribs?

>>14577532
Boston doesn't really have its own chowder style. If you are making it cream based, call it "New England Clam Chowder"
If tomato based: Manhattan Clam Chowder.
If clam juice based: Rhode Island Clam Chowder.

>>14577532
Crab cakes should cost more than $8.
t. marylander.

>>14578184
I'll up it to £10. Also, £ are worth more than $.

£ = British Pound

>>14577958

more than half your menu is not american diner food so i wouldn't theme your restaurant as an american diner but you're pretty accurate on americana/american regional. i've always wanted to open an american place in europe or asia and your menu seems perfect for a taste of the states. an american diner is more like grilled cheese, benedicts, breakfast burritos, burgers, chili. what you're doin is american regional which i think is a great concept outside the US but execution/technique is going to be difficult with the diversity of your menu. for example your texas brisket is going to require a 10-12 hour smoke where your brooklyn pizza will require making your own dough in a hobart. so lets say you have one guy handling the brisket working the smoker for an entire day another guy is going to be handling the pizza dough for 4 hours every morning. if its going to taste good and be authentic you're going to have to find an amazing prep cook or else you will be running labor well over par.

What the hell is a Colorado Smash Burger? What makes it unique to Colorado? Burgers are just... American. Get rid of Texas and KC selections and just do barbecue general to also include Memphis, St Louis and the many variations of the Carolina's. Make it a rotating special or something. That frees up a spot for shrimp and grits because you have't represented the south east coast at all.

>>14578241
I pay $25-30 for good crab cakes in maryland.

Anything under $18-20 is using imitation crab

>>14577532
i used to love to make menus as a kid. I would make my mom play restaurant with me and serve her plastic food on dishes

>>14578329
>What the hell is a Colorado Smash Burger? What makes it unique to Colorado?

I chose Colorado because thats where the smash burger was invented.

>>14577532

>>14577536
2.50 for a LIT?! I'd be getting ripped at your place


Also add some damn NC BBQ - it's a chopped pork sandwich
Maybe a chicken salad sandwich too that's pretty american idk what region though

>>14578381
Well good luck with copyright/trademark infringement

>>14578416
>Maybe a chicken salad sandwich too that's pretty american idk what region though

Washington D.C suits it, rich professional guy who is health conscious type of food

>>14578457
Note the [space] in between 'smash' and 'burger'.

:)

>>14577532
Maybe you should add another menu item
>Deport all the illegal immigrant Mexicans that the democrats want as slave labour for their businesses, democrats never gave up on getting theur slaves back, 4 more years of TRUMP sweeties.
>With caramelized onions.
>£5.00

That would be truly spectacular OP, simply delish. Mmmmmm onions. Vote TRUMP.

>>14578462
>tfw you're too full to kneel for nogs after a double chicken salad on an everything bagel

>>14578493
haha, the D.C boomer.

>>14577532
Green chile chicken enchiladas or stuffed sopapillas or a smothered breakfast burrito would be more representative of Santa Fe anon.
t. New Mexican born and raised

>>14578560
>t. New Mexican born and raised
Hello Walter White.

>>14578241
>£ = British Pound
Oh wow I thought that meant rupees

>>14578241
You clearly have never had real crab cakes.
As the other anon said, good crab cakes are $25-30+, and that's usually only for 2 maybe 3 crab cakes.
If I saw $13 crab cakes (£10) on a menu, i simply wouldn't order them because at that price there is no way in hell they're using good crab meat, or even crab meat at all.

>>14578689
fair enough

Would eat, but still no butter burger. This is not authentic.

>>14577532
Looks good OP, you made good improvements.

>>14577572
you could go region locked or do something like bbq (just for example) and do all different types of bbq -- all you'd need is a smoker and a bad ass grill -- from different regions. like north carolina bbq, georgia bbq, texas bbq, kansas city, memphis... that kinda thing. if not bbq you could do this with sandwiches too

>>14580196
>from different regions. like north carolina bbq, georgia bbq, texas bbq, kansas city, memphis... that kinda thing. if not bbq you could do this with sandwiches too
not too shabby of an idea

>>14577532
I mean it sounds great, but having a varied menu like this is going to be hell on the cooks. Something will have to give: pizza is time consuming and so is brisket, other items are faster in the kitchen like the lobster roll, and gumbo is also a long cook. It sounds delicious though. But some of these longer items will have to go.

Fast items like:
fish/lobster taco
lobster roll
crab cake
etc are good

>>14580340
if op is buying live lobster that stuff can be pretty energy consuming too

>>14577536
>blue hawaiian
this
also might be worth looking into some new orleans cocktails like the sazerac, hurricane, the hand grenade or the coveted lafitte's purple drank (yes that's its actual name)

I like the regional foods, you got pretty close

>>14580363
>purple drank
i like to call it nigger juice

>>14577532
Where’s the Indianapolis Breaded Tenderloin

>>14577532
why is this shit so fucking expensive kys you fucking nigger

>>14577785
Oregon is nigger dick

>>14580560
there's lots of costs because the menu is so varied and exclusive.

>>14577784
>Arizona Fish Tacos
Wait, that's not just a euphemism?

>>14577532
>still pretending like vegan soy food is the only thing Cali has to offer
>literally the best Asian and Mexican food comes out only from Cali
God I hate midwestern faggots like you

>>14578329
>Burgers are... American
No they're not.

>>14577536
Lol 2.50 Long island iced teas... people would be getting fucked up

From a Texas fag you don’t want to be smoking brisket if it’s not a bbq place. Now way would that be profitable or efficient

I’d make Texas a ribeye and Kansas City something like spare ribs

>>14578042
> chicken fried steak?
>Which state?

Texas, Oklahoma, Virginia are all contenders.
Nobody south of the Mason-Dixon and east of the Mississippi is going to get offended if you accuse their town of having the best style of chicken fried steak.
Also has some crossover with a BPT sandwich.
Probably safe to blame it on Tulsa, but they'll come shooting at you if your CFS or gravy is inferior and reflects poorly on them. These are folks that will climb a water tower with a bucket of paint to defend their sister's honor.

>>14580536
You know damn well it's in Fishers.

>>14581601
New Haven has the first burger at Louis’ lunch

>>14577532
just do one thing well instead of trying to do every region... burrito, pizza and chowder on one menu? red flag.

just a cringe concept imo

>>14577532
Rhode Island clam chowder is the patrician choice - fuck boston and their cow based barf fest chowda

>>14577784
>8 slices
>a lot for single serving
pleb

>>14582213
>These are folks that will climb a water tower with a bucket of paint to defend their sister's honor.
Sounds like good hearted people.

>>14577532
I’m pissed you didn’t include the bacon-wrapped deep fried burrito you fucking cuck faggot
If you’re gonna do some stupid gay shit from California it might as well be a poke bowl or something like that, not some faggy vegan burrito that LITERALLY NOBODY ever actually eats

It’s supposed to be “American eats” but you’re already using faggy presumptuous Twitter-tier garbage memes as a source you fucking nigger

>Hawaiian drink
>no Hawaiian entree
OP you gotta rep the alohamohas

>>14583735
>poke bowl
>hawaiian

>>14583724
>It’s supposed to be “American eats” but you’re already using faggy presumptuous Twitter-tier garbage memes as a source you fucking nigger
triggered cali fag spotted

just face it, your state is known for it's veganism and green juice. stop harassing OP for your own shortcomings.

>>14583749
That’s not my point you fucking nigger it’s that nobody eats vegan burritos because there’s literally no fucking way you could make one that wouldn’t be complete and utter dog-food tier garbage bullshit
What the fuck is it gonna be? Beans and fucking rice? If I wanted a bean and rice fucking burrito I’d go to chipotle and get fucked in my loose asshole like a retarded soyboy cuck

>>14583760
well you clearly don't speak on behalf of your city.

>>14583855
>California is a city
>this is unironically how europoors think

>>14577559
Absolutely this. Talk about a Kitchen Nightmare. Maybe feature a new specialty each week, and once you sell out, you're done.

>>14577532
Looks very good, but the logistics would be a nightmare as others have pointed out.

Although I would get rid of crabcakes (they don't seem to be universally popular) and maybe replace it with a fish taco of some sort. Personally as a Minnesotan, I loved walleye tacos and also the oofda tacos that a Minnesotan street fair would bring.

The above is mainly because mexican-fusion style food is all over the US. I mean every cuisine too, e.g. Korean-Mexican fusion, etc.

OH FUCK OH SHIT HE’S HERE, IS THAT A CAMERA CREW? ANONS QUICK YOU GOTTA RECOMMEND SOMETHING GOOD TO SERVE HIM

Dubs decide what we serve mister Ramsay from OP’s menu

>>14583924
>Although I would get rid of crabcakes (they don't seem to be universally popular)
the only people that don't like them have never had good crabcakes.

They buy cheap shitty crabcakes that use imitation crab meat and tons of filler.

REAL crab cakes should have big ass chunks of crab meat

>>14583925
cheese and kimchi sandwich, burnt on the outside and cold in the middle, $23, because its expensive cheese.

>>14577532
What are the 100k noodles? Just incase somebody ordered them.

>>14583934
That could be true homie, but I've never had a good crabcake and I love crab. I haven't had them in Maryland, but I've tried them all around florida and was routinely disappointed.

But I could've just been unlucky.

>>14577532
>>14577533
>>14577536
>doesn’t have a yellowhammer drink or Chicken with white sauce for the “Alabama” category
Shit menu(s)

You know a long Island has five shots of alcohol, right? We throw people out if they have more than two.

>>14584003
he probably thinks its iced tea with a tiny bit of alcohol.

>>14583985
As I said in the thread yesterday, if you're paying less than $25-30 for crabcakes, they're probably garbage.

>>14577536
https://www.delish.com/cooking/recipe-ideas/recipes/a43639/tailgate-cocktails-alabama-yellowhammer-slammer-recipe/

>>14583891
I'm from Palm Beach, dumbass.

>>14584003
Forgot to add that American bartenders pour drinks stronger since we work for tips.

>>14584032
>be american
>forfeit two tips

>>14584003
>>14584008
>>14584032
OP here, i'll change the Iced Tea to £4.50, in dollars it will now be $5.90.

Sounds good?

>>14584088
Lol, no.

A long island iced tea usually costs $8-12 around here.

>>14584022
>I’m gay and suck cocks
FTFY

>>14577532
No buffalo chicken wings with ranch or blue cheese dress dips and carrots and celery?

>>14584088
No Alabama items???

>>14584111
not a regional food

>>14584117
cousin/sister fucking isn't a cuisine anon.

>>14583995
fuck yellowhammer imo straight to ale is better

>>14584128
>

>>14584139
i bet you like soy too you stupid barner

>>14584094
So should I charge more for the Long Island Iced Tea than the San Francisco Martini?

>>14584235
well lets see, the martini has a single ounce of gin.

The long island iced tea has 1 ounce of gin, 1 ounce of white rum, 1 ounce of tequila, 1 ounce of vodka, and 1/2 ounce of triple sec

So yeah, you should be fucking charging more for a long island iced tea that costs you 4-5x as much to make.

>>14584166
I had to look up what that meant. you're the retard who buys into dumb college football tribalism. one of my roommates works retail and has to hear roll tide all the time. glad I went to college

>>14584246
i graduated from U of A back in 2008 you no-name fuck.

>>14584276
war eagle asshole, UA is fucking shithole dump

>>14584276
I went to utk and never went to a football game. I worked at a baseball stadium for 2 years and had the owner offer me free season tickets and I told him I didn't like baseball. hell, I watched season ticket holders leave early most games

>>14584288
>utk

>>14584288
baseball is a dying sport, so you're not wrong.

>>14577830
Fry bread tacos are incredible

>>14584426
Only in America. The rest of the world loves it

>>14584434
lol no, baseball is an AMERICAN sport.

the rest of the world is into football

>>14577532
OP if you want some flyover state input I can provide some
>Minneapolis Juicy Lucy burger
>Springfield Horseshoe sandwich
>Wisconsin Friday night fish fry
>Quad Cities pork tenderloin sandwich
>Michigan pasties
>minnesota wild rice soup
>St Louis toasted ravioli
>Wisconsin cheese curds
>Milwaukee Bloody Mary
>Dakota Juneberry pie

>>14584426
so what's #1 over there? NFL and (American) Football?

>>14584478
actually there are some weirdo countries that are full into baseball, iirc that would be Cuba, Venesuela and Japan. Baseball is number 1 sport there.

>>14584276
>>14584284
>>14584288
>>14584304
Mark my words, Auburn will lose time Tennessee this year

>>14584631
To*

>>14584621
NFL or basketball

>>14584621
Basketball is #1 in the US.

>>14584639
and NHL is pretty niche?

>>14577532
Add Michigan pasties please, I want representation.

>>14584660
Michigan sucks, Ohio is a better state with better football

>>14584648
Wouldn’t say it’s niche, just not as popular as the other sports. More popular in the northern half for obvious reasons

>>14584671
lol what the fuck are you smoking?

>>14584631
literally no one gives a shit dude

>>14584663
football is for faggots and both those states are fucking terrible

>>14584682
Please point out where that image contradicts my statement. Not as popular as other sports

>>14584717
my comment was more about you saying football OR basketball. >>14584639


It's football by a mile

>>14584683
>t. seething coastie faggot or europoor

>>14584727
I'm the same dude that went to utk and never set foot in the stadium

>>14584763
oh so you were that weird kid that never had any friends in college....gotcha

>>14584671
Actually you are right, hard to call the best world hockey league "niche".

>>14577532
Are you looking for investors, OP?

>>14577532
>no pulled pork

>>14584959
north carolina is a state for faggot coasties trying to LARP as southerners

>>14584973
this nigga keeps using the term 'faggot coasties'

i'm dying hahahaha

okay I want a philly cheese steak

a slice of new york cheese cake and
Ohio Vanilla Milkshake

yet that is a whole lot of dairy going on.. also from jersey..

>>14577572
Do East Coast as it is the coolest and most epic region and it encompasses a few different cultures and has very good food

>>14584430
They are Injun tacos

>>14585361
>okay I want a philly cheese steak

>a slice of new york cheese cake and
Ohio Vanilla Milkshake

Thank you for your order, that will be £20.25.
So $26.54 in dollars.

>>14577532
To cut down on menu/ingredient bloat, what if you always did the "East Coast" type dishes, then had a seasonal menu that switched between West Coast and Southern (which seem to be the general groupings here) every 6 months?

>>14585510
that would be a good idea

>>14577532
>maryland crab cake
Promise me you won't just make a shitty crab cake and dump a cup of old bay on it. Everyone outside of maryland who labels it a "maryland style" crab cake does that and it sucks.

>>14577532
oklahoma onion burger

>>14577532
Margins are gonna suck

>>14585493
Not an unreasonable price if the food is good and the portions are large. But I know other countries don't take leftovers with them.

>>14585662
>I know other countries don't take leftovers with them.
depends on the restaurant to be fair, some are stingy but some are nice.

>>14585662
>Large portions
t. fatty

>>14586169
is the average american a fatty?

>>14584235
yes. LIITs are usually one of the most if not the most expensive cocktail on a drink menu.

>>14586169
Not a fatty. Just want something to eat the next day.

>>14584088
In Texas our iced tea is only like 2-3$. Set it at whatever feels right dude.

>>14586441
it's a LONG ISLAND iced tea, it has 5 ounces of liquor in it.

>>14586445
Yeah my bad. I realized it after posting.

>>14586441
based texas

>>14584235
I rarely see any cocktails cheaper than 8 or $9. Even at shitty college bars

>>14577532
>No southern cooking.
>No hot brown

List is shit

>>14589233
there's literally 4 southern main courses

>>14577536
it seems like you may think that the long island iced tea is an actual iced tea preparation that's common to long island, bongfriend. it is not! it's an extremely alcoholic beverage. there's so many spirits in it that i doubt you could sell them at a reasonable margin at 2 pounds 50, and also your restaurant would become a breeding ground for drunks because it would be the cheapest way to get drunk for miles around.
rest of menu looks pretty good! I'd say maybe you want to change the name of the taco to an El Paso taco or something, as San Diego isn't really associated with foods as much as Texas border towns are.

>>14584235
definitely. you're going to spend a lot of money making a long island iced tea, charge closer to $10. It seems like you're in a relatively cheap area (ie not a huge city) based on your other prices, so that'll be good. If you ARE near or in a big city, up that to the equivalent of $15

>>14589994
Are you counting Kansas City?

>>14580560
>expensive
How fucking poor are you? These prices are easily comparable to their american counterparts, some cheaper.

>>14590525
This anon beat me to it. I don't think OP knows what a Long Island Iced Tea is.

3/4 oz Vodka
3/4 oz White rum
3/4 oz Silver tequila
3/4 oz Gin
3/4 oz Triple sec
3/4 oz Simple syrup
3/4 oz Fresh lemon juice
Cola, to top
Garnish: Lemon wedge

>>14583760
>>14584022
>>14583724
Stop LARPing as a Californian. bacon wrapped whatever isn't a thing in Cali. Poke bowls are Hawaiian.

>What the fuck is it gonna be? Beans and fucking rice?
Clearly never had a burrito.

I feel sad for you.

looking great OP! but you need a menu for side dishes. normal, nonspecific sides will do just fine (i.e. green beans, mashed potatoes). also, I highly suggest you have one chocolate thing on the dessert menu. restaurants that lack any chocolate dessert suck. maybe Wisconsin chocolate ice cream or something.

>>14578654
At the rate they're going they will be rupees soon enough

>>14590634
No, Kansas is midwest.

There are 4 southern dishes on the menu, check properly.

>>14578465
so the shitty restaurant chain Smashburger started in Colorado, yeah, but the concept of a "smash burger" pre-dates the fucking chain and started in, like, Kentucky. Not even close to Colorado

>>14590707
>Poke bowls are Hawaiian
No they aren't. They're 100% a mainland thing.

>10 for a burger
>12 for a pizza
>20 for a lobster roll
>15.
prices are a little fucked up & I don't even get the joke for 15

>>14590868
You're a piece of work. A real piece of work. I dont even know what you're counting because you're such a piece of work.

>>14591116
kys faggot coastie

>>14591274
Are you the fucker who said NC isnt the south? Keep saying coatsie I'll coast my dick down your throat

>>14591379
>t. faggot coastie

>>14591622
Yes sucks so bad I get to enjoy my 50 degree winters, can be in the mountains or beach in 3 hours, and enjoy the best college basketball around while you freeze your ass off and have your Bucks lose to Orlando

>>14578465
Pretty sure new mexico has been doing those hatch smash burgers for longer

>>14589994
Cajun food and Texas brisket is not southern cooking. And Nashville hit chicken is a meme entree

>>14592106
>meme entree
imagine actually using this term, what an autist...

>>14578340
Crab is cheap as fuck in the uk

>>14590930
That's about right for uk prices.

>>14577532
>£5 for a fucking taco
Neck yourself

>>14577536
Do you know what a long island iced tea is? It's basically all your clear spirits mixed up with coke. You're talking at least 6 quid.

>>14577532
>>14577533
>>14577536
So now what are you going to do with this list of foods and arbitrary amounts you've put the them?

>>14577533
don't bother with the key lime pie if you aren't using actual key limes.

>>14577958
Places with a menu like this don't exist inside the states... I am still confused. Are you trying to make a traditional dinner with dinner fair or an Epcot-esque American eatery.

>>14577532
Cool menu OP I nominate fried green tomatoes for an appetizer.

>>14592533

the only issue with OP is execution. a pizza place spends most their labor on dough. a bbq place spends most their labor on brisket. a cajun spot spends most their labor on roux and stock. so he's got 3 extremely labor intensive items that are an afterthought, none of them will be done correctly without having to have a specific person on staff that spends their entire job working on those items.

>>14592473
Good crabcakes use jumbo lump, or lump crab meat, not backfin or claw meat.

If you're making crabcakes from JUST jumbo lump meat for example, you'll probably need 2-3 crabs per crab cake.

A plate of 3 or 4 good quality crab cakes can take almost a dozen crabs.

>>14592799
interesting

>>14577532
That brisket better be fucking smoked anon

>>14578070
We got fatass burgz where they put all the toppings on the side because stacking is hard :(

>>14594104
nah it's actually a passover recipe passed down from my bubbeh

>>14577532
Bostonian here. The correct terminology would be New England Clam Chowder, but kudos for putting it on your menu. Unless you're making tomato based clam chowder, that's Manhattan, which is actually not real clam chowder and is an abomination before God.

Don't call it Maine lobster if it isn't Maine Lobster.

>>14577532
>Boston clam chowder
You mean New England Clam Chowder.

>>14594365
Only the finest robsters wirr be served.

>>14594375
thats unironically one of the few decent chinese people in this world

>>14594947
Yeah, and Jack Ma's a pretty nice guy, too.

>>14594965
good one

>>14577532
logistic nightmare

>>14577532
>california represented twice

Lol best state. Stay mad.