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It's almost like you should go vegan to not get cancer or something...

>>14437661
>Beef causes cancer
>Pork causes cancer
>Chicken causes cancer
>Eggs cause cancer
>Fish causes cancer
>Dairy causes cancer

from where are you citing?

>>14437670
vegan youtubers.
vegetables are missing over 15 nutrients

>>14437667
fpbp

>>14437675
>Just artificially add them! It's the same thing!
>Slurp slurp mmmm yummy soy gimme more vegan friendly meat substitutes waiter!

>>14437661
Allt these things contain Purines and Nitrosamines which are unhealthy in high doses.

That doesnt mean if you eat a steak everyday you will definitely get cancer but mathmatically your chances are higher.

If you will get cancer in the end is determined by a lot of other things.

It's similar to cigarettes. They give you a higher chance getting lung cancer/ heart attacks but its not absolut. You can still die of skin cancer because you smoking all day in the sun without suncream.

>>14437703
>oh let me just blend my smoothie
>for lunch ill be blending a vegan cheese sauce for my Mac n cheese
>for dinner? u guessed it, blended soup with bread! mmm so good

>>14437661
Just add lots of vegs and fruit to the meat, they combat cancer :D

>>14437667
>B12 deficiency causes several symptoms including:
>Weakness, tiredness, lightheadedness
>Heart palpitations and shortness of breath
>Nerve problems like numbness or tingling, >muscle weakness, and problems walking
>Vision loss
>Mental problems like memory loss, depression, or changes in behaviour
You should thank the evil animal abusing food companies for putting artificial b12 in shit like cereal so you retards don't die
>inb4 eat pill

>>14437661
None of those cause cancer. They can promote growth by a tiny percentage but anything can since it's just cellular growth. Eat what you want, exercise and mind your portions

>>14437661
all of those actually prevent cancer, cancer is a result of antinutrients like oxalates and goitrogens, found mainly in grains and leafy greens

>>14437661
No, its just that a lot of Nutrition "Research" fails to isolate their variables. So when they say "meat consumption increases risk of cancer" they're doing so with data that's getting confounding affects from other parts of people's diets.

>>14437721
>Nitrosamines
But these are only a thing in processed meats, and even then you'd have to eat an absurd amount to significantly raise the risk.

>>14437661

>>14437667
Sure worked for Steve Jobs right?

>>14437661
Much depends on how food is prepared. Vegan food can be more unhealthy if it's heavely processed for example.

Also, diet is super complicated and even "scientifi"c sources can be unreliable. You shouldn't trust singular findings on this field, but rather look where there are multiple sources saying the same thing.

Also, first time hearing chicken, eggs, fish or dairy are unhealthy. Citation needed.

All that being said, there usually are health benefits from limiting meat consumption, so if it's not done stupidly, like eating a lot of "impossible" style fast food, it should be good. Same with replacing pork with chicken. Likely gonna do you good.

>>14437667
It's almost like you can't go a single thread without telling everyone you're vegan. Nobody cares. It's not gonna save you from cancer dumbass.

>>14437661
>being alive gives you cancer
Don’t smoke, don’t drink, work out, don’t be a fatass, and moisturize. Even if you die of cancer, you’ll have good years. Other than that, just enjoy a steak pussy

>>14437661
the solution grassfed instead of grainfed

hot take: sugar causes cancer

It's not the meat and eggs that give you cancer, it's all the shit they put into the meat and eggs.

>>14437661
Living causes cancer.
The only way to prevent cancer is death.

>>14437661
None of these inherently cause cancer, but higher consumption is correlated with a higher chance developing cancer compared to not consuming them. Correlation is not causation.
>>14437667
It's also misleading or down right wrong to assume that you will not develop cancer if you do go vegan. There are many factors, not just diet, that lead to the development of cancer, with genetics being the most probable cause and exposure to mutagens (high-energy radiation, inhalation of halogens, etc.) being a close second.

>>14437915
>Don’t smoke, don’t drink...don’t be a fatass
This is what you need to be worrying about. Some studies I've looked at said animal products don't really cause problems for anyone who isn't already at risk of heart problems because of those factors. That's when minimizing animal fat in your diet can actually help prevent heart disease, but continuing to be obese or a heavy smoker or alcoholic is still going to cause you to end up with some kind of issue if you don't deal with that. It's probably just widely recommended to minimize animal fat because most people can't seem to get their weight under control, and saying "minimize animal fat if you're overweight" would probably just cause more problems.

>>14437739
just take flintstone vitamins bro

>>14437667
I can't get what I already am.

>>14437820
What happened to Steven?

>>14437661
Breathing causes cancer

Maybe if you were Mr. Creosote and ate a gross ton of meat every 6 hours you'd get cancer.

>>14438902
I guess the maître d really did him a favor then.

>>14438924
EET IZZ OONLEY WAYFUR THEEN

>>14437790
Source?

>>14437667
I've never met a healthy looking vegan. They always have circles under their eyes, girls have weak nails with no natural shine and tips of the hair the fray easily. Men look skinny for their frame and usually have a skinny fat bump below the navel, never a good hairline. I don't care about animals either way, I just dislike what the diet does to you.

Based retards not understanding the difference between increases chance of and causes.

The gods lived so long because they did not consume human food, so maybe it's not bull.

>>14437661
Life causes cancer

>>14437661
>Is this bullshit?
Yes. Next question.

>>14437661
There's a probable but unconfirmed link between high red meat consumption and stomach cancer however seasoning/curing and the cooking method have a much stronger association with stomach cancers (which is also proven conclusively) than the type of food itself.

You could follow a vegan diet and have a much greater risk of developing stomach cancer than a consummate carnivore if you were searing all your vegetables and drowning them in bbq/soy sauce or eating lots of fermented vegetable products like kimchi for example.

>>14437667
>avoid cancer by coming cancer
Shut up you absolute cunt

>>14437661
I've just accepted that everything causes cancer and if you live long enough then you'll get cancer anyways. I'll avoid radioactive materials and DDT etc but I'm going to take risks for the most part.

>>14437661
Eat food, not too much, mostly plants

>>14437667
This is literally the reason for the shilling. This is how (((they))) WANT you to think.

>>14437661
Everything can cause cancer. Who cares. Eat what you want.

>>14437678
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>>14440500
Thanks for the (You)s, losers

>>14438989
"Dude, trust me"

>>14437661
Masterbating causes cancer

>>14437667
You are aware that ever human being has had cancer at some point in their life, regardless of their diet?

>everything else aside from soi & bugs pushed by dickless leftists CONVENIENTLY causes cancer
>Source is always one (1) shitty ass untrustworthy """"""""study"""""""
I wonder what could be going on in here

>>14437739
B12 is a meme and you know it effect non vegans.

>The most common cause of vitamin B12 deficiency symptoms in the U.S. is not a dietary deficiency, but a problem related to malabsorption. This condition is called pernicious anemia, and it is a relatively common condition in older adults. An estimated 10-30% of people over the age of 50 have some amount of malabsorption of this vitamin.

Obviously not eating meat is healthier because vegan tend to eat lot more variety compared to the average mutt.

>>14437661
Cancer is caused by living too long.

>>14437661
I think if you were to consume healthy amounts and if you had a healthy source of all these animal proteins, you would do just fine, but nowadays being vegetarian or vegan is probably way healthier than eating your average city dweller diet.

>>14437661
>do things you enjoy
>die horribly of cancer
>live austere life of denial and discipline
>die horribly of cancer

Modern life causes cancer. It's the price we pay for convenience. Don't like it? Go live in the woods and die from something else.

>>14437661
>OP causes cancer

>>14437739
can't you get b12 from blueberries tho? and most fish oils

>>14441461
Fuck you.

>>14437661
>XYZ causes cancer
said who?
try to make your own decisions goyim

>>14437901
go vegan faggot