/ck/ - Food & Cooking

I'll come pick it up and you can eat shit. Tips are for cooks.

>>14334822
Yes, rather petty when so many have been driven to unemployment and may be living in the streets this time next year. People need to learn to count their blessings.

Better question would be to ask why they don't quit and find better jobs if it's so shit.

Yeah nah get fucked. Nobody else is getting extra money for risking their lives, so why should waiters be the exception? They already make way more than other food service jobs.

Used to go to this burger place that had a tip jar next to the cash register, so you had to go up and place your order, then they would toss your order on a counter right next to the grill and you would have to go pick it up, and refills on drinks cost $0.35. They actually had a tip percentage guideline on the bottom of their receipts. Like I’m supposed to leave a 15% or 20% tip just for you standing there and shouting my number. Absolutely ducking laughable.

>>14334846
Not my fault they couldn't pay attention well enough in high school in order to not be in such shitty wage positions in the first place. Not my fucking problem, fuck you and your "tip".
The people who truly deserve tips are the people who slave over my food PREPARING IT. Why do you need an extra $15-$20 because you decided to be a CuckHub driver???

>>14334894
Filth. You probably have a shit job and refusing to tip is the only sense of power you ever get.

>>14334890
>simple service
>no waiters
>only extra wagie besides the cooks are what a cashier at best?
These types of establishments are the perfect places that actually deserve the idea of a "tip". You're just a cheap fuck at that point.

This was written by an american woman. This is literally how they think and view the world. "Entitled" isn't some joke or ironic.

My bf pisses me off because he's been a waiter before, and always feels the need to virtue-signal by tipping large amounts. The thing that he does that most aggravates me in this respect is when we we go out to get food (take-out, because of gorona), he'll make a trip to his out-of-the-way bank ATN to withdraw actual cash to leave as tip, even though it's not along the way.

Also, I hate that he always tries to eye what I leave as tip. I guarantee I never leave as much as him, he leaves a ridiculous amount because of "muh solidarity" with waiters/servers. But then he wonders why he's poor.

>>14334903
Begone burger flipper.

Making tipping threads should be a bananable offence.

>>14334908
My sister is the same.

>>14334903
At least I understand where my place is in the world, also I'm a fuckin' NEET who gets paid by the government to stay home. Not tipping faggots like you is the best pleasure in the world.
When this is all said and done I'll be returning to your typical retail demanding my $12+/hr (which I'll easily get) while what, you slave away for something that barely hits the minimum wage so you're forced to BEG for tips???
I cannot wait! Get fucked.

>>14334849
I hope people like you never go out

>>14334908
>my bf
The real question is why you're staying with him

>>14334908
Gaylord

i tip anywhere between 0 and 80 percent depending on the quality of service, cost of my meal, and how long i take up their time

also if the waitstaff disappears for half an hour with no explanation you bet your tuchus i'm walking out without paying

>>14334923
Because his ass is big, honestly.

>>14334908
He sounds like a decent human being with a sense of empathy. If more people behaved this way and commiserated with their fellow man the world would probably be a better place. I have always said every person should have to work in food service or retail at some point in their lives.

>>14334917
You couldn't stop me or anyone else. This system is retarded, no wonder only americans use it.

>>14334933
I worked retail for 2 years and I hate the lot of you as a result. All lazy shits who do the bare minimum.

>>14334822
>Tip 100 percent. What's stopping you?
My budget, the size of my paychecks, and the amount of money in my bank account.

>>14334957
Similar, I worked in food service and I fucking hate food service workers because of it.

>I'm entitled to your money that you earned because you have more of it than me

>>14334908
>boyfriend

faggot

>>14334849
Yeah, why doesn’t everyone become a doctor and lawyer? We don’t need waiters or chefs or garbage men or truck drivers. Follow your heart! Never make less than 50/hr ever again!

Waiting tables is a good job. For unskilled labor it pays VERY well, better than most skilled labor. The wait staff easily makes more money than me. Why should I pay them extra? Me, the poor guy. Why doesn't the owner who can afford to put down half a million on opening a business pay them more? How about he gives everyone a 15% commission on everything they sell?

That said I do tip sometimes. I disagree with the practice but it has a practical benefit for me. When you eat out with someone and you tip, it makes you look good. Even better if you pay for their food. Makes you look wealthy and generous. On a night out I'm willing to donate 15% charity to some entitled cunt if it means I'm getting laid after.

>>14335000
We definitely don't need waiters

>>14334822
>even rich people because they would just go to whole foods and get high grade organic food at that point...
and yet that isn't what happens.

Why does the customer have to foot the bill? Pay them more, fuckers. Down with tipping! $15 minimum wage now!

>>14334930
>the ass was fat

Hmm. I dunno if that's enough.

>>14334933
Bro fuck you. Retail and food service was horrid and I fucking hate every one who works there. No sympathy. Bring me my meal, cash me out at the register, and shut the fuck up.

>>14335007
It’s not about needing them. It’s about wanting them. It’s convenience and your life would be inconvenienced without them. You wanna go stand and grab your meal at every restaurant? No, you don’t.

>>14335009
Tipping needs to be made illegal for a couple of generations. It is a poison in our culture that damages sensible economics.

>>14335000
>We don’t need waiters
This is unironically true. Have a counter where people can pick up their food directly from the kitchen and make the soda fountain accessible to the patrons. Voila, waiters just became obsolete.

>>14335000
Low skilled jobs aren't lacking but only one has to rely on customer tips to make a living wage and also have the retards working in it bitching and moaning about it. Guess which?

>>14335024
Speak for yourself, not everyone is a lazy retard like you. I'd much rather go pick up my own plate than pay some entitled cunt 25% of my meal price just for walking the thing over to me.

>>14334908
I used to tip a ridiculously large amount when I was a server. I don't anymore. I still tip a regular amount, but I don't go overboard. Their employer is required by law to make up the difference if their paycheck comes out to under minimum hourly wage. Don't let them guilt you into compensating.

>>14335024
I don't fucking want someone asking how my food is every ten minutes and adding 5% to my bill at every restaurant.

>>14334822
I don't understand why waiters still exist. They're the worst part of being alive in this world after having to see black people, and they need to be replaced by robots literally right now. It's a public health necessity that they be replaced by robots.

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>>14335041
If enough people refused to tip the legal argument could be made that servers are no longer "tipped workers" and thus require them to be paid real wages. The dirty little secret is none of them want that because they make assloads of money from tips, far more than their labor is actually worth, thanks to all the guilt they spread to people.

>>14335031
That's fine until retards start poking around in you food.

>>14334908
Ey lil mama, dump that zero and get with a hero. I have a big ass and tell waiters to kick rocks.

>>14335031
I drink a lot of water with my meals and rarely eat out in groups larger than two. This makes me a low priority for wait staff who have larger parties (and larger tips) occupying their attention. It's usually not a problem but when a place is busy I'm often sitting with an empty glass trying to choke down food for 10+ minutes. There have been times when I had to get up and go grab the pitcher to refill it myself.

It's so much easier just to go and refill the drink yourself. If you're in a fine-dining restaurant I get it. The wait staff should be well trained and well paid (by the business). With higher margins on more expensive food they can easily afford it. I don't need a personal servant at fucking applebees.

>>14335045
Then eat at fast food or food trucks. Or tell the waiter to never come back to the table. What you want doesn’t really exist.

>>14335000

Just fucking pay people enough money and they will work the job. Garbage men and truck drivers get paid extremely well for what they do.

I'm not going to pay extra just because some stingy restaurant owner doesn't want to pay their employees a fair wage.

>>14334905
>deserve the idea of a tip
>despite nobody doing anything for you
Bet you let other guys fuck your wife as well

>>14335039
Yeah wow cool. Go to a nice restaurant and make good money and tell me that same thing. You fucking faggot. Applebees isn’t a nice restaurant either.

>>14335077
Well you do it anyway and I don’t see you trying to change it? No, bitching on 4chan isn’t change.

>>14335052
I don't know what I was expecting

>>14335016

Retail and food service is the only place I ever worked that was filled with so many fucking entitled people. People who would complain about stupid shit like having to clean up, or deviate from their normal schedule. Why the fuck complain about shit and then proceed to do absolutely nothing to fix your problems?

I never hated the work, but the people I had to work with in those industries is what kept me out of it.

>>14335078
Just the tip ;)

>>14334984
the argument is that if you ate out like twice a week you could just eat out once a week and tip 100%.

you can afford it, it would just be dumb to do so.

>>14335083
>Go to a nice restaurant and make good money and tell me that same thing.
What does the quality of the restaurant have to do with anything? Why does making more money mean that I'd want to waste it on tipping a waiter?

>>14335069
It's really common at semi-casual venues. My favorite bar literally has a window into the kitchen where you pick up your food. They give you a buzzer when you order and you leave it at the window.

I don't even have to tip the bartender since it's not that busy and I never really order mixed drinks.

>>14335089

Why would I put in effort to change it? I literally have no stake in it.

>>14334822
I really have mixed feelings about this. Coming from a poor family, my mom and aunts are a mini-army of waitresses for a luxury cruise liners for years. While I don't believe that tipping should be mandatory, it was those tips that got me to a prestigious university and eventually paid more my mom's own education as well. I understand it's difficult to reinforce tipping as a cultural practice without making waitresses feel entitled to it.

Also, accoridng to my mom, burgers are the best tippers. Even the blacks tip better than the europeans.

>>14335095
hmm... if I stopped tipping I could eat out three times a week. You have given me much to think about.

>>14335090
I wish there were a /ck/ user orgy.

>>14335095
But if everyone went to restaurants less often in proportion to the increase in their tips wouldn't that just result in it being a wash for the waiters anyway? If every customer pays twice as much but you have half as many customers per night you make the same amount of money. No, they want people to go out the same amount and just pay more money in tips.

>>14335095
Oh sure, and I could also buy a house if I just go homeless for ten years instead of paying rent and utilities.

>>14335109
And I wish there were no more faggots

>>14335096
Because you wouldn’t throw a tantrum on the internet about ten fucking dollars. Look, if you don’t make enough to go out to eat, don’t. Grocery stores exist and no ones shaming you for cooking on your own.
You gotta understand, you’re mad about paying more for convenience when really, you just want to eat at a cafeteria food or a buffet or something. Make better choices.

>>14335109
>/ck/
>not /fit/

>>14335029
I can't believe that America, the epitome of """sensible economics""", allows tipping, where Europe and Asia do not.

>>14335101
If you’re bitching about it, it sounds like you care. Or that a 5 dollar tip is devastating to you. Don’t go out if you can’t afford it.

>>14335131
Which would have more fat fucks? I honestly don't know.

Considering about 75% of overly online liberals are just bored food service employees this kind of entitlement in the restaurant industry seems pretty ineitable.

>tfw I worked as a waiter and it just made me think they’re crybabies

I don’t care what you tip as a former waiter, my only goal was to be the casual wingman for dates and that was worth about $5-10 a table.

>>14335132
>allows tipping, where Europe and Asia do not.
Are you retarded or something? Do you believe tipping is illegal in Europe and Asia?

>>14334984
What about your San Tropez plans you cheap fuck?

>>14335135

I could just not tip while you bitch and moan.

>>14335129
>you’re mad about paying more for convenience
I'm mad about having a particular convenience that I find unnecessary thrust upon me and the entitlement of the glorified tray carriers who think they deserve more money than the people making the food.

>>14334822
>it scares me
Then cook at home.

>>14335161
Then you'd have no job at all.

>>14335135
>Don’t go out if you can’t afford it.
Maybe it would be easier to know whether you can afford to go out if the restaurants engaged in more honest business practices and put the real prices on the menu instead of leaving the majority of the price up to entitled workers who go online and demand that if you don't pay literally twice the price of the food you're selfish scum.

>>14334908
Your bf is an indoctrinated idiot.

>>14335149
Doesn’t matter to me, I don’t have a stake in it.

>>14335147
It's not illegal. It's not the law stateside either. It's just not done anywhere but here.

>>14335186
You’ve lived in America your whole fucking life and you still larp as if you aren’t about to spend 50 dollars on a dinner for two. Go fuck yourself you poor piece of shit. Eating at restaurants isn’t for poor people. Cook at home until 50 a night isn’t a big deal for you.

>>14334822
Thanks OP, now I can print this out and leave it with the bill and a big fat 0

>>14335147
I think he means to suggest that Europe and Asia do not allow their workers' wages to be legally dictated by some flimsy "cultural expectation" of tipping like we do in the US.

>>14335222
Your tears are delicious.

>>14334822
lol instead of asking your boss for more money its the public's job to support you for some reason?

>>14335192
His bf is also a faggot

>>14335167
My job is not affected by whether or not you eat garbage.

>>14335263
That makes your reaction even funnier. I wasn't even that guy.

>>14335222
>Cook at home until 50 a night isn’t a big deal for you.
What you don't seem to understand is that it's not about being unable to afford the absolute dollars spent, it's about the value for the money. $50 for a good meal is perfectly justifiable and not a big deal at all, the cooks put work and skill into that meal and the amount I enjoy the meal makes it well worth the price. But $20 for the person who just brought me a plate and refilled my drinks for the hour I was there? Not worth it, that value is not equivalent, and I'm not going to spend my hard earned money so frivolously.

>>14334822
That's the point. They're greedy babies who want NEETbucks

Unless I run up a ridiculous bill, only order an app/a couple drinks, or service was amazing for some reason I don't really sweat the little stuff and just tip 3-5 bucks depending on how I feel.

i don't understand why you have to tip the waiter, but not the guy doing the cooking
i don't eat out anymore anyway

>>14335292
>i don't understand why you have to tip the waiter, but not the guy doing the cooking
At this point it's just a matter of doing it because it's what we do. Cooks don't get tipped because they make a full wage. They make a full wage because they're not considered "tipped workers." The inverse is true for waiters: They get tipped because they don't make a full wage. They don't make a full wage because they're considered "tipped workers." It's all just a retarded feedback loop.

>>14335307
waitstaff in my state are guaranteed minimum wage though

>>14335323
It's true in every state and at the federal level that if a tipped worker's wage + tips do not add to at least regular minimum wage the employer must pay them the difference up to regular minimum wage. I don't know of any states that don't have a tipped minimum wage whatsoever, though.

>>14335334
Even more reason for them to not get tipped then.

>>14334822
Beep boop, I will never ask for a tip, or make annoying snarky comments, or sneeze on your food, or try to unionize for a better wage.

>>14335386
For all the bellyaching servers do about how little they get paid, any time an actual viable movement starts to make progress on eliminating the concept of tipped minimum wage the servers all band together to make sure it gets struck down. They want the best of both worlds: Complaining about their low hourly wages but ALSO making hundreds of dollars per night from tips.

>>14335400
Based brobot.

>>14335135
>thinking you deserve a percentage of whatever I order despite doing the same thing if I order a $10 burger or $50 steak
Waiters do about 5 minutes of work per table per hour, making it one of the most overpaid jobs ever. They also never pay taxes on cash tips, so consider my tax money your tip :)

>>14334822
Dude my aunt has been running a food truck with my uncle for 4 years and even she says 20% is generous

>>14335454
>They also never pay taxes on cash tips
They're supposed to, though.

>>14334822
I guarantee this was written by a woman

>>14335400

Stuff like that will get trashed within a month of use in the US.

>>14334822
Imagine caring what a w*itress thinks or reading anything that was written by a w*itress. I don't eat at restaurants that employ entitled shitskins or s*ngle m*thers instead of some decent fucking eye candy.

>>14335095
But then I would only get one blow job a week behind the Applebees dumpster from your mom. It's pure economics

>>14334905
that makes no sense

>>14335526
the real reason we don't have robots doing everything yet.

>>14335000
>Yeah, why doesn’t everyone become a doctor and lawyer? We don’t need waiters
Corona just proved the vast majority of wagies jobs are literally worthless

>>14334822
I never tip

>>14335884
Well if you kept it away from joggers it would last longer.

>>14335988
>joggers
hwat?

>>14335024
>You wanna go stand and grab your meal at every restaurant?
yes... i do.
its a 5 feet walk nigga, who the fuck cares?
I can carry a plate from the kitchen to the table. if you put the soda machine up front I don't need you to refill my drink and fuck it up either.

the only thing I need is the table cleaner to clean tables before I get there.

You realize that there are tons of restaurants that don't have waiters right?

reading shit like this makes me more determined than ever to NOT TIP.

Also, the tips always just go to the servers who can live comfortably working part-time while BOH linecooks slave away and never get tipped out. I was a linecook and got the fuck out of the restaurant industry because the pay sucked. Now I make great money AND have health insurance because I took initiative.

Fuck tipping. I'm done with it.

>>14335024
Yes, that is definitely the best system. Pay when you order, pick up your own food when it's ready, leave as soon as you're ready instead of having to go find someone to pay.

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>>14335975
Probably like 5% of people are essential for society to function.

>>14335129
I literally could not give a fuck about $10 or however much my tip costs.

But waiters are useless, and honestly the detract from the experience of a restaurant. At best they just silently give me refills and don't fuck up my order. At worst it takes them an hour to get me a new drink or they're constantly bothering me when I'm trying to enjoy the food.
I don't need that shit, I would 100% rather get my own refills and just walk to the kitchen to get my food.

I'm being forced to accept a service and pay extra because poor people like you think that having a waiter is an "experience" because its the only time you get to exert power and feel like someone is servicing you.

I don't need that, I'm there for food. The irony is I could just call in a preorder to take out, get to the restaurant and ask the front clerk for my order, then walk it to a table and eat it. And that experience would be 100x faster and easier than dealing with a waiter.

>>14334849
The reason is that w*iters actually earn way more than they deserve due to the decades-long guilt trip about tipping. Ask any of them, they don't want to be paid a fair wage, they want their tips, in cash, so they can get more than they deserve and commit tax fraud.

>only the wait staff profits
I don't know if this is just a my restaurant thing, but the tip money usually gets shared out among the employees. waiter/waitress gets the bulk of it, but a good chunk gets split up between everyone.
either way usually the busboy picks up the tip, throws it in back, it later gets counted up and split by the waitress. if the waitress is being bitchy and not splitting then the cooking staff just accidentally forgets about her order for 30 minutes and the busboy gets busy cleaning the other side's tables.

>>14335113
>But if everyone went to restaurants less often in proportion to the increase in their tips wouldn't that just result in it being a wash for the waiters anyway?

the argument is that the kind of people who pay 50% extra for ubereats or whatever can afford to do that. Tipping 20 or 30 dollars extra really doesnt matter for thier budget

>>14336201
That's a stupid argument because it's possible to afford paying 50% more for ubereats and not be able to afford much more than that.

>>14335024
>You wanna go stand and grab your meal at every restaurant?
Yes.

>>14335000
Should have thought about that before throwing six figures at a ______ Studies degree. Not my fault you got conned.

>>14335000
It's not that everyone should become a doctor or a lawyer, it's that people make the most retarded decisions possible in their lives and still feel entitled to a bunch of shit. There's no reason a retard carrying some plates is worth more in wages than the absolute minimum necessary for keeping a roof over their head, food in their stomach, utilities paid, and MAYBE monthly beer money. These people could have studied a skilled trade if they didn't want to or couldn't go to college and be making a very comfortable living with employment almost always assured (know who dead-sure haven't been out of a job during the lockdown? Plumbers, electricians, and HVAC technicians), but no; carrying anything heavier than a bottle of wine is a deal-breaker, doing anything blue collar is super not cool and the thought of working even 30 minutes somewhere without air conditioning makes them rather die. They could have become the trash men you talked about, except trash is fucking gross. They could have become artist or athlete who could at least make a living if they're any good at it, except they've got the artistic capabilities of a monkey with a box of crayons and they do the bare minimum to not be fat (sometimes). Nobody says "I want to become a waiter." Being a waiter is for high school and college kids, or senior citizens, to make extra pocket money. If you're a waiter and not one of the aforementioned, don't get me wrong, you deserve a livable wage even if you're a fuckup, but your idea of "livable" is more often than not laughable. It's food and a roof, for one; don't breed.

I sit in an office all day now programming and analyzing seismological data, but when I was a teenager I helped my wetback dad do construction work. My respect for tradespeople is immense. Same for anyone in the arts who make life more than just toil. The respect waiters evoke from me is that which I give absolutely any human being by default. I've yet to meet one who earned more than that.

>waiters
Name a more entitled """""job"""""