/ck/ - Food & Cooking

The Japanese need to learn to not individually wrap everything in a metric ton of plastic
Bananas already have a built in wrapper. Don't wrap them in plastic god dammit

>>14312846
Asians love plastic. Good luck with that.

>>14312846
The Japanese have pretty much mastered recycling. They're so autistic they don't even have public trashcans and are just expected to take their trash home so they can sort it.

>>14312858
the japanese should master deez nutzzzzzzzz

>>14312858
No they havent. They are one of the lowest recycling modern country with only about 20% recycling. The japanese perfectionist autism is a meme.

>>14312877
Japan still gets good use out of a significant chunk of their waste by incineration a lot of it and using the energy from that to generate power.

>>14312888
Burning your trash isnt recycling.. Thats nigger tier trash removal.

>>14312898
Nigger tier is dumping it in a landfill eyesore that has no positive impact whatsoever. At least incineration can generate some energy. Landfill isn't nearly as useful.

>>14312907
Yeah and you end up with a polluted air that costs millions in health care every year. Smart move.

>>14312926
>NOOOOOOOOO NOT THE HECKIN LUNGERINOS NOT THE BREATHY BOYS

>>14312822
>mfw i grew up on Okinawa and used to smash these to get the marble
Until i figured out you can pry the plastic part off with a screwdriver anyways.

>>14312931
Just go back to 9gag

>>14312952
I think I'll be staying indefinitely

My irrational fear is that micro shards of glass scratch off into the soda when you pop the marble down.

>>14312952
wtf goes to 9gag in 2020 anyways?

>>14312931
Seethe

>>14312858
This no public trash cans anywhere pissed me off so much, by the end of my trip I just said fuck it and treated the place like korea and dumped my trash anywhere I went.

>>14313795
Uhm hello, based department?

>>14312877
>They are one of the lowest recycling modern country with only about 20% recycling.

bull fucking shit. in japan authorities can go through your trash and fine you if they find recyclables and it does happen

>>14312980
It wouldn't matter if they did. Would just go through you or get encysted.

>>14312858
>7-Eleven employees reeing impotently when you use the bins outside their shops without buying anything

lmao nerds

>>14313795
literal nigger

>>14313795
Trash cans at every conbini. Which are damn near every wear.

You're just a nigger.

>>14312858
You can't recycle plastic infinitely. Even if what you said were true, it wouldn't excuse overusing plastic.

>>14312822
>made with REAL SUGAR
as opposed to what? salt grains that just taste sweet?

>>14313795
typical yt

>>14312858
>tfw you have to separate the cap & neck from the rest of the bottle and then remove the label from the bottle because they are separate plastic categories & go in different bins and you also have to perform a Shinto prayer for them and their passage into the after-life and rebirth

>>14314327
>as opposed to what?
...corn syrup

>>14314425
what the fuck is corn syrup
I know, it's probably sweet syrup made from corn, but what the fuck

>>14314430
Seriously? Never heard of HFCS?

It's one of the main reason why Americans got so fat and why much of the world followed suit after adopting American foods and drinks into their diet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-fructose_corn_syrup
If you ever drink Coke made from real sugar, from sugar canes, like the Mexican one made with real sugar the difference is night and day.

Same with actually real maple syrup, made from maple tree sap, it tastes nothing like the 'table syrup' you'd find in waffle houses and breakfast places and supermarkets.

>>14314480
>Seriously? Never heard of HFCS?
no, not until now. why do people even use this, is real sugar not sweet enough?

>>14314505
corn subsidies

>>14312926
The pollution could be reabsorbed by trees or returned into carbon some other way, if we bothered to try.

>>14312846
>coughs within five square miles of you

>>14314512
no, sugar excise

>>14314505
corn subsidies, yeah. Also NAFTA and other trade agreements. Even within countries where sugar from sugar cane is a native product, HFCS ends up being cheaper on a large scale.

>>14312822

>>14313795
Nigger

>>14312846
It has to do with cleanliness and the way they recyle.

>>14314480
Mexican Coke is nothing more than an ad campaign. The majority of Coke produced in Mexico uses HFCS, and what is produced using sugar is primarily exported to America.

>>14314480
>It's one of the main reason why Americans got so fat
Nope. Nice try, Dr. Mom.
https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/90/6/1453/4598059
>Increased food energy supply is more than sufficient to explain the US epidemic of obesity
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19246357
>Comparison of weight-loss diets with different compositions of fat, protein, and carbohydrates.
>CONCLUSIONS: Reduced-calorie diets result in clinically meaningful weight loss regardless of which macronutrients they emphasize.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html
>Twinkies. Nutty bars. Powdered donuts.
>For 10 weeks, Mark Haub, a professor of human nutrition at Kansas State University, ate one of these sugary cakelets every three hours, instead of meals. To add variety in his steady stream of Hostess and Little Debbie snacks, Haub munched on Doritos chips, sugary cereals and Oreos, too.
>His premise: That in weight loss, pure calorie counting is what matters most -- not the nutritional value of the food.
>The premise held up: On his "convenience store diet," he shed 27 pounds in two months.
>For a class project, Haub limited himself to less than 1,800 calories a day.
>His body mass index went from 28.8, considered overweight, to 24.9, which is normal.

>>14314981
I'm starting to wonder if he's just fucking up on purpose at this point.

>>14315179
>>For a class project, Haub limited himself to less than 1,800 calories a day.

>>Reduced-calorie diets
Cause that's how the average American eats, right

>>14312858
there are garbage cans next to every vending machine, and there are vending machines not just on every street corner but almost every building corner

the thing I had trouble with was figuring out where to put my plastics until someone explained you put them in the burn slot

they burn plastic there

>>14314480
>If you ever drink Coke made from real sugar, from sugar canes, like the Mexican one made with real sugar the difference is night and day.
I might have almost believed you did have the ability if you wrote "I can notice a difference in taste." But to say it's something blatantly different "like night and day" you're clearly just being suggestible and placebo-ing yourself.
Despite this popular belief all evidence points to it not being perceptible as different through taste alone (i.e. blind taste test done PROPERLY where you personally have no idea what's going on and an independent researcher will find out the results later).
Though certainly if you learn about HFCS in soda you can prime yourself to start feeling as though there is a difference because the power of suggestion can easily overtake actual sensory information, especially in cases where there isn't much or any of a difference to detect (a lot like how you start to see and hear things when places in sensory deprivation; less sensory saliency = more feedback from your brain).
https://books.google.com/books?id=R1bCBwAAQBAJ&pg=PA623
>When taste tests proved that consumers could not tell the difference between sodas made with sucrose or HFCS, companies switched to the cheaper alternative.
More specifically (in a proper double-blind taste test) you wouldn't be able to reliably identify whether different cups contained American Coke or Mexican Coke, nor would you be able to reliably identify whether one cup was the same as another cup or different.
http://fish.freeshell.org/events/CokeTasteTest.xlsx
Definitely not something you would bet your mother's life on.

>>14315210
>Reduced-calorie diets
>Cause that's how the average American eats, right
What are you trying to communicate? The ENTIRE POINT is he was doing something fat people DON'T DO by reducing calorie intake to lose weight.
Calories determine weight loss or weight gain. Exercise too, but for most people it'll be calories that are the determining factor for their weight situation. This link here even mentions that point about food energy vs. phsycial activity changes explicitly:
>The predicted changes in weights derived from the equations suggest that increase in estimated energy intake is sufficient, by itself, to explain the increase in weight in the US population. Such findings are supported by studies using other approaches to the same question (10) and by epidemiologic data showing that physical activity levels have not decreased, or have even increased, over the period of time that obesity prevalence has been increasing (11–14). For example, Westerterp and Speakman (11) compiled data from 13 US doubly labeled water studies over 2 decades and showed that physical activity energy expenditure had apparently increased over that time.

>>14315210
>>14315321
https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/90/6/1453/4598059

Their grape drank is nice, but I always buy the bottle on the right.

>>14312877
Dude who in the fudge do you even know that? Get a life holy cow man that's some primo nerd crap right now.

>>14313795
Based as hell

>>14313795
Operator, give me based.

>>14312858
>>14313795
I can't wait to go to Japan someday and act like a complete bafoon on purpose just to piss em off.

>>14317653
>a complete bafoon
>bafoon
Why start in japan when you're already embarrassing yourself online!

>>14315321
>What are you trying to communicate? The ENTIRE POINT is he was doing something fat people DON'T DO by reducing calorie intake to lose weight.
That fat people don't reduce caloric intake, especially not when everything has corn syrup in it. HFCS is a huge factor, for instance Mexico was actually relatively healthy pre-NAFTA
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/11/health/obesity-mexico-nafta.html

>>14312822

>>14312822
those ramune soda bottles was the only food packaging item that required me to look up a guide on youtube.

>>14317858
The instructions are literally printed on the seal.+

>>14312822
Unacceptable because they advertise a smooth butt plug but sell you a rigid butt plug?

>>14317863
it was probably covered by one of them localization prints foreign imports get in my country.

>>14317869
They don't put those on the seal around the cap though.

>>14317758
Hehehe

>>14312858
Japan is great!

>>14317781
>That fat people don't reduce caloric intake,
Because eating too many calories is what make fat people fat. Which is, again, the point.
>HFCS is a huge factor
It isn't, because people who eat too many calories and don't eat HFCS still gain weight. And people who eat HFCS but don't eat too many calories (like the professor in that article) DON'T gain weight.

>>14319077
The issue is that HFCS is added to everything in American cuisine. More HFCS, more calories.

>>14319195
>HFCS is added to everything
Not everything, but definitely a lot

>>14313795
NIGGER

>>14314981
>open ramune with his DEAD RIGHT HAND!

>>14319474
Why so many N-bombs in this thread? Is racism allowed here now? I guess the mod/janny has relented

>>14312858
>mastered recycling
i can tell you now from 12 years of living there that their "mastered recycling" is just "lets fucking just burn fucking everything, there, that's close enough".

>>14317653
careful.
you'd be surprised what shit's actually illegal in Japan that can get you in trouble with the cops. Things like "cutting in line" are literally a felony there.
And foreigners are instantly sent to max security prison, so keep that in mind.

>>14312858
the Japanese need mass migration from the third world to set them right.

>>14319561
Is it racism to call a spade a spade?

>>14312858
>>14313795
They don't have trashcans in major metro areas because a cult put sarin gas in trashcans in a crowded train station in the 90s and killed several people.

They also burn plastic/trash as
>>14315263 mentions.

>>14319195
Doesn't invalidate the equation of calories in < calories out = weight loss, retard

>>14320443
nuh duddy up, jamaica!