/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Fed reserve had to print a few tril so the big corp executives could pay their bonuses. They all want bacon too even though supply lines are fucked, so they'll out bid the norman for it.

Where the fuck you live bro. Shoprite has a variety of brands each $4-$6.

>>14295570
What shithole do you live in where bacon is that expensive? I suspect bullshit or shit zimdollars. A package like that is about $2 in NY/USA.

>>14295585
That's not why, it's because our nation needs to feed others so we print up money to send to foreign sacks of shit. That and the influx of shits to the USA that want to live off of the government causes a devaluation of currency and thus inflation. Read about it yourself.

Likely Wuhan flu disrupting processing plants.

>>14295585
Here's another...
Secrets of the Temple by Greider.

These pathetic foreiners sucking off of USA money make me sick to my stomach.

>>14295570
>Why the fuck is bacon so expensive now
Supply and demand, but in the case of bacon there are some pork belly futures, and prices are wildly based on the stock market sometimes.

Bacon freezes like a champ, and lasts a while, so hoarders doing their stocking up, did a little part of the higher prices right now.
Also, processing plants all over the country have periodically shut down, lost some of their workforce because of covid outbreaks. So, less bacon is being produced.

I noticed it's about $2.50 more than usual last week here (Florida). $8 seems about right for 12oz (not many are 1lb anymore), and I notice the stuff like Wrights and other better ones are holding onto their old price a little better. I am only buying the more quality stuff from here forward. I am avoiding the packed in liquid thinner big brands with extra fatty ends for the thicker cut dry rubbed stuff.

>>14295570
Well there is a major shortage of slaughter facilities thanks to covid.

The anchor baby types are some of the worst, they come to the USA to suck money from us and bring in their extended families by pumping out a kid here. That's something that should be changed but would take a Constitutional convention to do so.

>>14295570
https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/america-could-perilously-close-meat-134602436.html

>>14295599
>>14295596
I live in Chicago

people think they live in fucking bonanza and can just live off of baked beans and bacon indefinitely

good god just buy duck bacon at that price

>>14295570
That's about the usual price for Oscar Meyer bacon.

If you want cheaper shit, but Farmland, Patrick Cudahy, or Sugardale.

>>14295628
>blaming foreigners for buying products being sold to them buy American companies who have no allegiance to anyone but the almighty dollar
I'd be more worried about that knife behind you than the one 500 miles away.

>>14295674
RIP it's true, meat prices have been going stupid here. Was at ALDI today and cuts of round was going for nearly $7/lb

>>14295674
>>14295827
If I was a delivery driver, I'd be afraid of getting Reginald Denny'd driving into Chicago these days.

>>14295639
This exactly. It's what my local market manager told me

>>14295847
I work delivery and live in Chicago. Shit sucks but at least I live in the good parts. Some of the cops don't care anymore. They're letting people shoot each other and not giving a fuck anymore, father's weekend had like 100+ gunshot injuries

because we are entering a phase of collapse. All the systems that allowed us to have cheap, plentiful and diverse are falling apart. The world is starting to burn. We are in the endgame and we will see society collapse within our lifetime.

We never appreciated how good we had it.

>>14295985
forgot image

>>14295570
Because slaughterhouses were caused down due to COVID dementia. Literally if no one said anything, then it'd kill like 1.3 times as many as the flu every year and wouldn'tve tanked the entire world. And now we have nigger riots...

China bought all our pork processors

>>14296000
The feds are going to step in and force China to divest. They’re already furious Smithfield’s US-based plants increased its exports to China 600% back in April while telling Americans there would be shortages. Our land, our hogs, slants can go fuck themselves.

>>14296035
holy fuck dude, the trade deal made them buy agriculture goods and now you guys are upset that they are buying agriculture goods.

There's been a massive massacre of pigs in Africa due to a swine fever outbreak meaning some of our pork is going to the export market instead of staying at home. Thanks globalism.

>>14296047
Oh look a commie who thinks soybeans are pork

>>14295570
Same price as I pay in my dirty foreign country, except mine is traditionally cured.

>>14296057
pork and meat products are agriculture products produced by farmers. that was one of the deals trump made with china, buy agriculture products and up to 200billion american goods over 2 yaers.

>>14296066
You fucking idiot, herds were put out to slaughter because slaughterhouses had to be covid closed by retarded liberals hyping the meme disease. It literally cost more money to keep feeding the slaughterable livestock than renewing them.

>>14296074
are you retarded or did you not read the context of the conversation? OP was complaining about china buying agriculture products but at the same time america signed a phase 1 trade deal with china that made them purchase 200billion dollars worth of goods in 2 years with a significant amount being agriculture products to placate farmers. so now he's upset that china is buying pork products but doesn't realize that his government forced them to.

>>14296081
The fucking feet on the ground cannot slaughter the animals, thus render the meat ready for market. How the fuck are they going to ship to China what they can't even ship to the next county over?

I fucking swear.

>>14296090
not all abattoirs and packing plants are closed. there are a few that are and the costs have increased to protect workers with PPE. regardless, OP complaining that farmers are selling to china instead of the domestic market is because china is willing too and forced to pay a higher price because they must fulfill their trade obligations. there is increased competition for pork products because china has to buy. this is your government shooting itself in the foot.

>>14295570
There was no shortage. Corporations manufactured the meat shortage scare, then drastically increased meat exports. Now we have to pay considerably more to buy domestic food. Cool, huh?

>>14296100
>not all abattoirs and packing plants are closed
No fucking shit. You think there was no animosity between fucking China, the originator of the disease who covered it up, and the US between the treaty signature? We reneged as fuck, especially because we had to shut down slaughterhouses.

What fantasy world do you live in? Poultry and pork are up because beef stocks got annihilated. Occam's razor or your brain or whatever the fuck, use either one.

>>14296111
you are absolutely retarded aren't you? you're so retarded you don't even know what you are arguing about. you haven't even addressed anything i said. the reason why pork is expensive and pork is being exported is because americans phase 1 trade deal increased the competition for pork products. you want a solution? renegotiate the trade deal and exclude pork products, china will buy from the EU which produces twice as much pork and without ractopamine.

>>14296121
Agriculture has become commercialized.
COVID caused humongous factories (fucking google it) to close.
Farmers had to kill herds outright because they couldn't be slaughtered and processed.
Mostly beef.
Supply and demand caused the market to shift.
This was weeks ago and easily googleable.
Nothing of this has to do with Orange Man Bad.
Nor Red Dragon China Will Grow Larger.
You are a fucking retard.
Please kill yourself after anally fingering me, then kys yourself again.

>>14296135
you are absolutely retarded because you cannot understand context. click all the way up and see where this thread started about china. here you are arguing some retarded point that im not even brushing on because guess what? it's not part of the context. you fucking idiot.

>>14296121
redpill

>>14296135
bluepill

>>14296140
The supply of the good is the context, sweetheart.

>>14296150
this is the thread i replied to >>14296035
you fucking moron.

>>14296156
no u

>>14296165
and here we have it, the capitulation of a complete fucking jackass.

>>14295985

Hope you’re incorrect there fucko.

Try imagining if things will be better rather than worse

>>14296168
pp poo poo doo doo caa caa

I merely stated that any foreign treaty is ancillary to that we have reduced national herd size and temporarily killed our own meat processing capabilities because of centralization. But I just don't feel that this is sinking in your head, so fuck it?

>>14296202
retard can't unto context.

>>14296206
You wield that word as if you don't even know what it means when I already framed the fucking context.

>>14296148
MORPHEUS
DORPHEUS

>>14296202
You have to be 18 to post here.

>>14296320
faa faa fee fee moo moo mama paa paa

>>14296223
having to repeat myself 3 times before it finally clicked into that tiny brain of yours, i don't think you even knew the word existed until you dictionary.com'ed it just now.

>can get 3lbs of decent quality odds and ends of bacon for $7.50 where I live

>>14296339
Dude, I told you the facts that lay. It's not China. It's not context of international treaty. It's because Farmer John had to exterminate his herd because packer Bill couldn't run his factory, feed prices would've costed more than herd maintenance, and the prices shifted accordingly. That is the full context.

Quit thinking you know a thing because you read a headline despite not knowing the first fuckall about the industry.

>>14295819
Sick woke comment. Thanks anon

>>14296386
im not even arguing that point you fucking idiot. holy shit, you still haven't figured it out. im arguing against what OP said. im not saying you're wrong and im not saying you'tr right, infact, im not talking about your subject at all. im iterating to OP why pork is being exported to china. you fucking retard. you literally can't unto context and continue to bring up a point im not fucking arguing about. it's like you're talking to self pretending it's me arguing against you. god damn you are stupid.

>>14296398
Pork has risen because slaughterhouses have been closed due to covid, thus also making beef rise, and the shift to more pork prices. Subsidizing and exporting 3% of pork internationally doesn't make it raise 30% locally.

penispussy.

>>14296418
you are so dumb i actually feel bad for the people who have to deal with you. even now you still do not comprehend context. you are aware that you can see a chain of responses right?

>>14295712
>people think they live in fucking bonanza and can just live off of baked beans and bacon indefinitely
ROFL. I bet there are a ton of people who haven't touched their dried beans yet, and have demolished their convenience foods.

I learned my lesson from so many Hurricane season preps.
I only buy exactly what I like to eat months later.
50% of what I buy is beverages. I buy pallets of my favorite drinks at Costco. Might be aloe or izze, perrigrino citrus drinks, Frappuccino, favorite seltzer waters, etc. Tons of lacroix and fancy waters, because I know I'll actually drink them.
Nature Valley bar and a cold frappuccino, bam, breakfast is done. And, for the rest of the year, I don't mind doing that some mornings.

There's nothing you can do with soups you hate, pasta in a can, and ugh, dried beans if you don't often use them vs canned, etc. Be realistic if you are lazy, picky or have refined tastes.

>>14295985
>a phase of collapse.
It's pretty possible this is true, sadly have to admit it might be starting now. I have for about a month stopped dipping in my supplies, something I would have done to cycle in some new meat in the freezer and use of the old for Hurricane season, and have started stocking up again because I see more and more missing from shelves. This rioting stuff might keep up up to and through the October elections when shit can happen yet again. The second wave of infection when schools start in the Fall? /facepalm, poor people and sick people all at once, you won't want to step foot in public stores, shop after dark, go anywhere without a gun, etc. It's possible...

>>14296428
Funny, my friends all share the same sentiment. Ya 'ol rascal, you. Now come ova here before I give ya a knuckle sammich!

>>14295570
The joos

>so expensive
I think I can go into my store and pick up as much as I want.
$3.89/22oz.
Bitch all you want about flyoverland, but a lot of good stuff costs less.

No noticeable food price increases where I'm at on the West Coast. Ground beef went up like $.50-1 but that was it.

Doomers bore me.

>>14295570
guess its time to start eating tofu bacon

>Chilled (not frozen) meat in a brand name package

Do Americans really

>>14295570
They killed pigs because if the Rona

>>14295570

Long term trade deals from U.S. suppliers to Chinese buyers. Also, which most of you faggots don’t seem to grasp, there was the African swine flu going on in China last Summer, were around 1/4 of the total number of global livestock pigs needed to be killed as a precaution. Enjoy your bacon.

>>14297247
Yes Americans eat meat you retarded millennial do you not have meat except in your ass

>>14297339

I'm geniunely curious because here we don't tend to have fresh meat in brand-name packages.

Even at a supermarket, there will be a butcher there and the meat will just be wrapped either with just the shop's branding or no branding at all. Very rare to see third party brand meat unless it's frozen.

Something something swine shortage.

>>14295570
We need extra taxes to help pay the bills of Muslim immigrants with 6 kids.

Anything else is pure xenophobia.

Kill yourseIf

>>14297349
Most of America doesn't have real butchers. Definitely not at supermarkets. You have to go out and find local butchers for that kind of stuff.

>>14297349
Not all groceries have butchers, and the ones that do are usually too busy cutting up beef to bother with poultry, pork, or lamb.

>>14295585
>>14295613
both wrong

Corona-chan has shut down several major meat production plants in the USA and caused major supply chain interruptions

that's what you get when you have massive national food production instead of small scale local production

>>14295570
combination of global meat supply being disrupted and an absolute fuckload of American pork being exported to China because they'll actually eat most of the pig

Americans, besides bacon and maybe sausage, don't prefer pork to beef.

>>14295866
Based

>>14297247
there's usually a choice between national brand and in-store cut and labelled, but yes many Americans eat meat processed three days ago 1000 miles away.

>>14295613
devaluation of currency true
immigrants are not eating up the food supply
1/3 of the food in the USA goes to waste so this is dead ass not true.

>>14297514
What? We eat a lot of pork down here. Chops once a week and a butt every other week or so when it's on sale.

>>14297600
where is down here?

>>14297639
NC

>>14297514
>Americans, besides bacon and maybe sausage, don't prefer pork to beef.
This totally isn't totally true? This is your own view and sales would prove you wrong.

I think most Americans who watch their health in the most recent years pay attention at least one piece of health advice, and that is that they try to limit their "red meat" beef to approximately 1x/week, even if they probably do it more like 3x/week.
Cow and hog slaughter is the same amount of pounds per year.
https://www.meatinstitute.org/index.php?ht=d/sp/i/47465/pid/47465

The disparity of income between those who have time and money to eat right most of the time, might be the difference between preserved foods like kielbasa, sliced luncheon meat, sausage and bacon, hot dogs, bacon, that whole nitrites and sodium level in preservatives issue. A set of delicious thick bone-in pork chops in a 4 pack might be like $7, or like 1/3 of a whole pork loin roast only $8. A 4 pack of some ny strip steaks of similar thickness will be about $40 (~$10 a steak), as the starting point. So, big difference in price. A ribeye bone-in roast? $60 or so.
Hamburger runs from $5/lb right up to about $9/lb, where pork or chicken will be $3-5lb most of the time. Amazingly where I shop you might see whole chickens offer no savings over parts packaged.

Pork = The Other White Meat, and with the economical nature of pork prices in seasonal times, sure as hell people are dining on it often, maybe even as much as chicken at home. But, that's not from preference to beef, but may be just a matter of economy and health.

>>14297725
the amount slaughtered doesn't have to be different for the amount exported to be different

https://www.nationalhogfarmer.com/marketing/us-pork-exports-soared-new-value-volume-records-2019#:~:text=U.S.%20pork%20exports%20posted%20new,November%202019)%20by%209%25.

Pork farmers realized they could get a whole lot more money for pork in China because they don't view pork as second fiddle and refuse to pay beef level prices for it.

>>14295570
logistics
the amount of available workers for trucking and handling of already processed goods has been cut down and this is the echo in countries like the USA and Canada where we have large amounts of land to travel with freezer trucks before getting from slaughter house to factory to logistics warehouse to supermarkets, and depending on the area there are people simply refusing to take certain routes due to future doctors with rifles peacefully protesting the trucks

processing
a typical meat processing factory will store a lot more meat from its ongoing production than you likely realize, but even those stocks won't last forever, physically, so you will also be noticing a significant decline in quality, as large portions of older product is usually sold to rendering companies and petfood companies once the dates on the labels are near the dates.
The workers people have available? you only need a small crew to relabel packages. This is not an illegal process by any means as long as the in and out dates are trackable and within reason, this happens all the time during shortages, but being handled and brought out will make the meat thaw and re-freeze resulting in tearing, so if your bacon is falling to bits you now know why.

these two factors will of course result in pretty much any good to increase in cost even if we assume there is no one price gouging, which many brands are including inhouse.

>>14297725
whole chickens are often still processed by the processing companies for packaging and labeling, which sounds dumb but stems from space being at a premium in those places as well as regulations around being packaged in the same area the chickens are getting their cloacas torn out
some slaughterhouses would have their own equipment for this, but they'd still be suffering from not having enough workers to do both.

>pay more for 6 strips of bacon than an entire slab of meat
uniquely american

>>14297445
>>14297447

Thanks for the info bros. Sounds rough, having a butcher and fishmonger in the supermarket keeps us from becoming completely community-less when it comes to food, hope that America catches on to this some time so you boys can get some good quality food in your lives without hassle.

>>14295570
https://www.southernliving.com/meat/bacon/bacon-history-pork-belly-prices
the price fluctuates based on supply and demand, but before the 1940's 'breakfast' as we know it in the US did not exist, new cereal companies started the entire craze with an ad campaign. 'breakfast is the most important meal of the day' shit all started at that time. So over the years and the formation of american 'breakfast' created more demand for "breakfast" foods like bacon therefore limiting supply at times and driving prices up.
https://priceonomics.com/how-breakfast-became-a-thing/

>>14297247
yeah man, most industry, especially food, is centralized and monopolized. in turn the transportation industry is huge in america.
there's also a ton of cultural/social propaganda against buying from local butcher shops if you can just as easily buy prepackaged shit from the supermarket.
you'd think tiny farming communities in america would grow their own food and be self-sustainable but it's more economically viable to grow cash crops and then buy your food from walmart or dollar general. shit's fucking grim, man.

>>14295570
EVERYTHING has gotten expensive in the past few months. my food bill has jumped 20% despite buying fewer things.

>>14295997
The man who knew too much

my neighbor is a butcher. he sells me a 1lb of bacon for like $5. and that is usually a generous 1.4 lb