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Hey i was wondering if anyone knew if there were restaurants that served ancient food and drink. There's no real other purpose too this, I'm just wondering if they're out there.

>> No.14257728

>>14257719
They definitely existed in Rome. If you've ever been to Ostia Antica, there are mosaics depicting menus.

>> No.14257745
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>>14257728
I know the ancients had restaurants, what I'm looking for is a modern restaurant that serves ancient food.

>> No.14257786

>>14257745
fugg sorry I misread. Yes there are places that use ancient recipes for things like alcohol and bread as a novelty. But modern food is invariably tastier because we have many years of experimentation, technology, and food science. I know there are a couple small tourist attractions in Italy that serve ancient Roman food, I remember hearing about a restaurant in California if I recall correctly that used ancient Egyptian recipes for beer and bread. I can't find the article talking about it though, sorry. ):

>> No.14257800

>>14257745
>>14257786
Here's something I just found about a brewery recreating ancient beer, there are probably more places like this.
https://www.mynbc5.com/article/plattsburgh-brewery-recreates-egyptian-beer/25657974
I remember hearing Greeks and Italians mention that "ancient wine" is still readily available if you know where to look, but it doesn't really resemble modern wine. It's very sweet and pulpy.

>> No.14257803

>>14257786
>>14257800
That's based, wished it would move out of the world of brewing into cooking. I want a fucking buffet sectioned off by different ancient dishes (This includes quail and peacock)

>> No.14257805

>>14257719
Most Chinese food places will keep reusing food until it's pretty ancient

>> No.14257820

>>14257745
>ancient food
wouldn't that be rotten by now?

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>>14257820

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>>14257719
It's out of business now but for a while the Liliget Feast House in Vancouver, BC was amazing. They served mostly authentic NW First Nations cuisine but prepared by an actual chef. Ooligans, salmon, elk, you name it, along with camas and other specialty veggies which you can't ever even find at the store.

It was really a cool space too, in the basement of a high street shop. Seated 50, very excellent atmosphere. My wife and I dined there a few times.

>> No.14257960

>>14257941
You gave me inspiration anon, I should look more into first peoples food. What do they make besides your usual roasted meat and stews all cultures indulge in?

>> No.14257991

>>14257960
I think my favorite thing was the fried ooligans aka the candle fish, it's so high in oil that the natives used to just dry them and light them like a candle for light. But they are tasty when fried if you like an oily fish. Think a really strong mackerel.

I also never had camas outside that place, apparently it's easy to confuse with an identical plant called death camas for easy to figure out reasons. But it's kind of halfway between potatoes and lotus root in a way.

Great place. I got a stewed elk ankle joint there one time, chef's special.

>> No.14258015

>>14257960
Tea and Bannock is good in Toronto it is a modern take with traditional foods.

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>>14257991
>just eating some ooligans with the hooligans

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>>14258015
noted
>>14258056
I never understood how you're supposed too eat fish like that (Admitted burger here). It's like....Crispy and stuff. Where's the meat?!?!?!?!

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>>14258065
You peel it off the bone, what you never ate a fried or baked whole trout before?

You can, with a little practice, just life the meat off the one side and then lift the spine, head, and fins off the bottom and there go all the bones. Thankfully city slickers are afraid of it mostly so the beautiful fish are left alone.

>> No.14258214

>>14257719
is this video real?

>> No.14258225

>>14257745
most of the plans and even the animals they ate are no longer around or are incredibly different after thousands of years of artificial selection

>> No.14258239

>>14258214
Evidently I guess, I found the gif on /trash/ the first week of its existence and I couldn't let it just die there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMnOieGtpmM
>>14258225
modern problems require modern solutions

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>>14258239
>>14258214
If you seriously think that's real I weep for you

>> No.14258316

>>14258304
bruh I have no fucking clue if it's a fake, it's a damn good one, especially for 13 years ago (Take into account the one you posted is from this year).

>> No.14258318

>>14258304
holy shit. how did they train the cat to do that?

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>>14258239
>>14258304
>>14258316
I would assume the shot of the Ostrich face deep in a plate of greens with cheering people surrounding him would give a clue to its authenticity.

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>>14258346
are you saying it's real, it's fake, what's the word my raptor expert.

>> No.14258480

oh look weird twitter's here

>> No.14259221

>>14257719
Little Caesar's. Roman style pizza the way Julius Caesar enjoyed it.

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>>14257719
I know a place you might like!

>> No.14259381

>>14259221
Did you know Julius Caesar got stabbed by all the pizza chefs when he walked into the pizzeria to pick up his order? Isn't that fucked up.

>> No.14259409

>>14259381
His last words were "Et tu, Pepperoni?"

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>>14259409
Et tu Balut?

>> No.14260725

>>14259221
actually in rome a pizza was a circular piece of flatbread, a bowl of crushed seasoned tomatoes and a shallow dish of melted cheese with a side of cured meats. It was only in the industrial era that it was thought to combine the ingredients in order to quickly feed child factory workers

>> No.14260756

>>14257829
haman best girl

>> No.14260759

>>14258318
dude i don't know how to tell you this... it's fake... it's a midget in a suit

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>>14257745
no restaurant would serve actual ancient food you dumb fucking europoid, because ancient food sucked ass.

Unless you're considering paleolithic times to be ancient and you just serve up a whole roasted hunk of meat.

What hipster bougie places do is "pretend" that europeans ate ceviche from pacific ocean fish and they'll put a little sliced turnip on top for that "indigenous" flair.

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>>14257829
godmotherfucking damn why didn't Char breed this bitch

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Medieval Times makes you eat with no silverware.

>> No.14262894

>>14257745
I have no idea why you'd want this other than out of historical curiosity. If you want something like Garum you can just get its modern counterpart of Greece and Italy.

>>14257719
>Medieval
>corn
>spuds
lol

>> No.14262909

>>14262894
>I have no idea why you'd want this other than out of historical curiosity.
Not OP, but that seems like a perfectly acceptable reason.

>> No.14262920

>>14262909
And I'd agree, but that's probably why there really isn't a business model in it.
It's the sort of thing that you'd only want to try once, unless you had a really good Apicius dish.

>> No.14262958

>>14262920
>unless you had a really good Apicius dish
ehhhhhhh
I think we can just leave it at your first point, which is a very fair one.

>> No.14262968

>>14257800
I remember when I was in college one of my classics professors talked about how ancient wine was basically a weird, gross, pulpy syrup that got diluted down or else everyone thought you were a backwoods hillbilly.

Same motherfucker also brought in Little Caesars for the final exam as a treat

>> No.14262974

Medieval Times

>> No.14262977

>>14262757
Much like how char was a pedo so was she.

>> No.14263012

>>14260725
Nah, actual pizza cook here. Pizza was basically a way to test if an oven was up to temperature yet that turned into a snack for the baker, that turned into what it is today.

Actual pizzas take basically nothing to cook on a traditional wood-fired oven compared to plain old bread

>> No.14263045

>>14263012
Think of it like the bow and arrow: there's no one person who invented it, because it kind of makes itself. Flat bread, put shit on top, all a sudden everyone can claim they had the first "pizza".

>> No.14263089

>>14263045
More or less. Pizza just got claimed by italians because they're overly dramatic enough to claim it. Note how there's the franco-german "pizza" (flammkuche/tarte-flambee) that is literally the same thing just with creme freche and shittier dough